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Originally posted by Dave52:
...Yahweh has changed the rules...

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Shalom Dave,

Well it's lunch break... so I snuck a peek and read your latest.

When did YHWH change the rules?

Numbers 23:19 El is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Malachi 3:6 For I am YHWH, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith YHWH of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

If YHWH changed His mind on this, then the sons of Jacob are without hope.

I will ask one question, then I will go back to some of your earlier questions and try to answer them.

You said to Jay: My belief is that Israelites through the bloodline (direct physical descendants) are no longer counted as Israel but only those Israelites having faith in Abraham’s seed (Yahshua) are considered Israel.

If this is true, how is it that the tribes of Israel are still a factor? If what you say is true, then EVERYONE in the House of Israel would be of just one tribe; JUDAH (Y'shua being the lion of Judah).

Why do we still see the other tribes prominent even as late as the book of Revelation?

I'm trying brother! You have a lot to address fur sure!

You said: "Mr 12:10 Have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner.

Yahshua prophesied the Jews would reject him."

I respond: Isaiah agrees in chapter 53 which I noted above. They esteemed Him not. But that doesn't mean they will reject Him forever. They haven't been SHOWN Him yet, but I'm confident they will be shown the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

You said: "Yes, a few Jews, a remnant believed in Messiah but overall the Jews rejected Yahshua the stumblingstone. “He came unto his own, and his own received him not” (Jn 1:11)."

I respond: I think we need a whole 'nother thread on some sub-topics like "Remnant", "First fruits", what "deliverance" means, etc. For example, a Remnant WILL be saved/delivered right thru the tribulation, a third part. The others will be killed (and later resurrected... a different kind of deliverance if you will). Like I said, these are sub-topics which may be better addressed in another thread. Then again, maybe here is the place for it.

Back to your question, again Isaiah agrees that they will reject Him at first, not having had their eyes opened (they were blinded for YHWH's good purpose).

YHWH has a great and comprehensive plan of redemption that we are only partially being able to understand right now.

Isaiah 50:2 ...Is my hand shortened at all, that it cannot redeem? or have I no power to deliver?...

Shalom,
T4T

Continuing...

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So you and T4T are saying physical Israel will always be physical and will not be made spiritual bodies. Who then will be made “SPIRITUAL and IMMORTAL beings.”

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I respond: I never said that.

Elaborating a bit, I think the first fruits will be made spiritual bodies FIRST. Then later those in the great harvest will be physical and possibly they can grow in Messiah to become spiritual as well. If they continue abiding in Messiah they will at least have life eternal, whether physical or spiritual or both I know not.

There will be physical people alive which will not be of the House of Israel living on the earth in those days as well. Some of them in Egypt might decide not to send their representatives to Jerusalem for the Feast and they get no rain as it says in Zechariah. But what about those who do keep the feasts and the law which proceeds from Mt. Zion? Will they be able to be engrafted into Israel at that late date? I think possibly so.

You asked:
1] Are Jews who do NOT believe in Yahshua still physical Israel?

-- There are so many definitions of Jew that I can't really answer unless I know what you are saying a Jew is. If you mean members of the tribe of Judah, I am of the belief that few of the current inhabitants of Israel are of the tribe of Judah although they may be of the northern tribes who went north and mingled with among other people, the Khazars and Turks and Scythians, etc.

But physical Israel, prior to Y'shua and after are indeed physical Israel. The bloodlines of each tribe are known by YHWH to this day and Revelation 7 bears this out. I don't see any indication that the tribes are "spiritual" tribes.

2] Or are only Jews who have received Messiah physical Israel?

--- Judah is but one tribe of the physical Israel nation. All physical Israelites are those who accepted Y'shua in the past, accept Him now in the present or who will accept Him in the future and who did or will agree to be subject to the laws of the nation of Israel given by YHWH. Gentiles can be grafted into physical Israel both in the past and in the future the way I understand it if they accept Messiah and the laws. Of course both natural and engrafted Israelites will have to repent of their transgressions as well.

3] Or are both physical Israel?

--- Yes and No. Some are dead now and are nothing. But they WILL again be physical Israel. Some died in Y'shua and some are now alive in Y'shua. Those who are alive are Israel. Those who are dead will become Israel again in the resurrection.

4] Are Gentiles who believe in Messiah physical Israel?

--- Yes. But I don't know which tribe for sure, but I would say tribe of Judah. Gentiles have always been able to be engrafted into Israel even before Y'shua.

Shalom,
T4T

--- Yes. But I don't know which tribe for sure, but I would say tribe of Judah. Gentiles have always been able to be engrafted into Israel even before Y'shua.

Let me qualify that a bit...

Gentiles who believe in Y'shua who repent and who subject themselves to the laws of the living Elohim which are the laws of Israel, these are engrafted into Israel. In the past, gentiles who willingly subjected themselves to the laws of Israel and her Elohim were engrafted in.

Merely believing in Messiah (but not repenting and turning to YHWH's ways) may not be enough to qualify one to be an Israelite.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of YHWH

Repentance is paramount in the equation and too little is said about it these days.

Israel upon resurrection will mournfully repent of their transgressions and will mourn for their Messiah as one mourns for an only child.

Hi T4T, I have just been pretty busy the past couple of days and only able to participate briefly with this thread.

To aswer your question in Isaih, I believe that was a general prophecy including all mankind.

In my view, all of Israel will be saved as it is written. However, the Firstfruits, which will include some physical descendents of the Children of Israel, will be saved under the Covenant of Promise or Faith.

The rest of the physical nation of Israel will be saved under the New Covenant talked about in Jeremiah but only as physical beings not spiritual beings.

YAHSHUA came in flesh, lived and died to allow both of those actions to take place, as well as fulfilling many prophecies and LAWS.

This is as simple as I can put my views. Obviously, there are other details we can talk about at length, but this is my primary understanding about the "New Covenant".

Enoch, Noah and Abel were not Israelites, for they were born many years before the creation of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel). Yet, we know they will be firstfruits along with the Apostles, adopted or grafted in gentiles and whomever else is chosen and elected up until the return of YAHSHUA. The timing of the Firstfruit resurrection, I believe, is at the sound of the last trump of the Seven trumpets of Revelation.

The timing of Ezekiel 37's physical resurrection is, in my view, at the beginning of the millinneum. This does not negate the scripture in Revelation because YAHWEH does not consider those dead of the House of Israel to be part of the "dead" of the rest of the world that will not be resurrected until the White throne judgement.

Remember, the rest of the world is not who YAHWEH was working with in the Old Testament and up until the time of YAHSHUA and Paul's ministry. Remember, those who were strangers and made the choice to follow YAHWEH in the Old Testament were considered adopted brethren as well into the tribes of Israel. However, it was not until YAHSHUA's birth and ministry did YAHWEH begin freely "pouring out His Spirit" upon the rest of the nations of the world and allowing them the opportunity to become Firstfruits.

Here are some interesting verses,

"KJV Ezekiel 34:9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of YAHWEH; 10 Thus saith the YAHWEH your Master; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them. 11 For thus saith the YAHWEH your Master; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. "

What time period do you think this may be speaking about?

"KJV Ezekiel 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. 13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country. "

Where are these people being taken to?

"KJV Ezekiel 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

KJV Ezekiel 34:24 And I YAHWEH will be their ELOHIYM, and my servant David a prince among them; I YAHWEH have spoken it.

KJV Ezekiel 34:25 And I will make with them a COVENANT OF PEACE, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and
sleep in the woods."

KJV Ezekiel 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am YAHWEH, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them. 28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid. 29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. 30 Thus shall they know that I theYAHWEH your ELOHIYM am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the YAHWEH your Master. 31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your ELOHIYM, saith YAHWEH your MASTER."

To me, this is the pretty much the same verbage found in Jeremiah and Isaih. Yet, as we can see by the characteristics of the people being discussed, these are human beings, men, not Spiritual Firstfruits but human beings eating, sleeping and being protected by YAHWEH from all things.

After we are changed into Firstfruits, will we need to sleep, eat or the protection of YAHWEH? I do not believe so. We will be YAHWEHs just as YAHSHUA is, omnipotent without beginning or end forever.

All of these verses in the Prophetic books must fit together. There cannot be discrepencies in the plan.

Talk more soon,

May YAHWEH bless and keep all who seek His Face,

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You didn’t comment on these. What’s your opinion?

Zec 12:10 I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon him whom they have pierced.
Joh 19:37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced, and they shall mourn for him.

Are the Romans going to look upon him whom they pierced and mourn for him?

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I will grant that the whole House of Israel and Judah are implicated in the killing of Messiah. So are the Gentiles. YHWH caused this to happen for His purposes. All men have sinned and fallen short of His esteem. All men needed redemption. Because of all men's sin (Israel primarily, the gentiles secondarily) Messiah was slain from the foundation of the world.

As I noted in previous post, Israel will mourn as one mourns for an only child. Salvation is to the "Jew" (Israelite) first because they are the chosen people of YHWH. The greek can obtain salvation secondarily and then become a part of YHWH's chosen people Israel.

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The rest of the physical nation of Israel will be saved under the New Covenant talked about in Jeremiah but only as physical beings not spiritual beings.

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Shalom Br. Marty,

I don't think we currently have enough scriptual information to say that resurrected Israel will alway only be physical and never grow to be spiritual after the order of the first fruits.

My opinion which is merely speculation in lieu of having either a deep enough understanding of scripture or for a lack of scripture to this end, is that the physical beings of the nation of Israel in the resurrection will be on sort of a probationary period and may grow in Messiah to eventually become like Him and like the first fruits, in sequential order.

It could be that physical Israelites have children, grow and aspire to spiritual beings, while their children and children's children are yet physical. The children and children's children in turn may grow to spiritual beings. I think there may always be this pattern. First born in the flesh, then after some time of growth in Messiah go on to be born again in the spirit.

You remember in 2001 at the Feast of the Last Great Day celebration at Navarre Fl how Jim Ingles spent a good long time speculating and opening the floor to others to speculate what happens after the fulfillment of the Last Great Day how many different thoughts and ideas were espoused? Why we had so many differing ideas was because in my opinion we haven't been given that information as yet.

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of YHWH of hosts will perform this.

I emphasized the "increase of His government" because this says to me that as eternity progresses, more and more government will be needed due to the ever increasing size and scope of the living beings who will be continually begotten. I think the government will be composed mainly of spiritual Israelites under YHWH and Y'shua and the ever increasing size of the government will require more and more administrators, priests, governors, etc. and they will have to come from somewhere.

Again, this is my speculation so please understand that I know I could be off the mark here.

Shalom,
T4T

Here is another verse which inspires some of my speculation:

Isaiah 65:20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

In the resurrection I feel it's possible that true Israelites who enter without rebellion in their hearts into the New Covenant will be right alongside of rebellious imposter Israelites. There are two groups mentioned here, those who are children (or as children in their faith?) who will die at one hundred year and the sinner who likewise will die at one hundred.

I guess the sinner who dies at one hundred and is accursed is cast into the lake of fire. But what of the child who dies at one hundred? Maybe he will be "reborn" as spirit. Maybe that probationary period I wrote of previously is one hundred years? Again, mere speculation. I can't say I know for sure.

This verse you have stated has been brought up to my attention on more than one occassion. I have looked at this verse as written in the Hebrew, and I come up with a different translation that the KJV. See what you come up with for me and lets compare.

I do not believe that death will occurr to those physically resurrected human beings of the nation of Israel. I believe those who lived through the millinneum will die. However, I believe they will also have the opportunity to show themselves worthy of salvation if they choose to be converted during the millinneum. Those names will be in the book of life at the time of the white throne judgement.

Remember, this is not the same book of life of the Lamb's book of life. Those were Firstfruits unto YAHWEH and have already been resurrected prior to the millinneum. This is just my view. You may see it differently. But I would encourage you to go seek a few different readings of the verse you brought up.

May YAHWEH bless and keep all who seek His Face,

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Shalom T4T,

This verse you have stated has been brought up to my attention on more than one occassion. I have looked at this verse as written in the Hebrew, and I come up with a different translation that the KJV. See what you come up with for me and lets compare.

I do not believe that death will occurr to those physically resurrected human beings of the nation of Israel. I believe those who lived through the millinneum will die. However, I believe they will also have the opportunity to show themselves worthy of salvation if they choose to be converted during the millinneum. Those names will be in the book of life at the time of the white throne judgement.

Remember, this is not the same book of life of the Lamb's book of life. Those were Firstfruits unto YAHWEH and have already been resurrected prior to the millinneum. This is just my view. You may see it differently. But I would encourage you to go seek a few different readings of the verse you brought up.

May YAHWEH bless and keep all who seek His Face,

your brother marty

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Shalom Brother Marty,

I will look at other renderings as you have well suggested.

In the meantime, let me say I am not totally sold on the idea that they will die as we know death, but somehow they will be reborn, maybe at the twinkling of an eye so that although there would be continuity of life, there would be the death of the old and immediate resumption of life in the new.

I think this saying by Messiah may illustrate it:

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a grain of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

I think this is an everlasting principle.

Also, I wanted to know what you think of the children who are born to the resurrected Israelites. These would be those who never experienced a life in this age. Will they die? I think at least in some way they will after their "one hundred years" or in line with John 12:24 somehow will be reborn and bear much fruit.

Then what about after the millenium and the casting of death into the lake of fire? Will there still be children born then? I believe so. I believe the Kingdom and it's inhabitants will just keep growing and growing and growing to no end.

Where will we put all these people?

Shalom,
T4T

You wrote:
"Yahshua is here speaking to the scribes and Pharisees but their punishment will extend onto the whole generation."

torah4today wrote: “Do you think this (Mt 27:25) meant ALL of the whole population of Israel? All twelve tribes? Even all of those who were scattered in the diaspora? Certainly not. This only referred to ALL who were present, which may have been as few as a hundred apostate anti-messiahs.”

You replied:

Mt 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

History begs to differ with you because Yahshua’s blood and “all the righteous blood shed” came crashing down on that generation of Jews and certainly not just on only the few hundred present.

(My current response in parenthesis.

Ok, as I said ealier, I grant that I was off. All of Israel, all of the tribes scattered throught all of the earth are complicit in His death. Even those who never knew He existed. They were the "lost sheep" He had come to die for. They transgressed YHWH's law and for this YHWH sent His Son. YHWH purposed it to happen and allowed the Israelites to bear the burden of the blame. The Romans still had just a little something to do with it though, don't you think? Did YHWH not use them for His purposes as well?

Maybe there was something prophetic when they said "His blood be on us, and on our children". Maybe His blood will turn out to be the the blood of the New Covenant that they will later enter into [and their children too!] I think they were speaking prophetically and didn't even know it.)

Continuing...

torah4today wrote: “I'm referring to "physical Israel". I believe that one can be spiritual, yet have a physical body, just like Y'shua did after His ressurection. He was physical and was handled by Thomas, and He ate food. Yet He is spiritual and immortal. Same for the future fullness of Israel in my humble opinion.”

To which you replied:

Is Yahshua still in that scarred body or is he more like John described him in the first chapter of Revelation?

(Yes I think He is: Zechariah 13:6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.)

Mr 16:12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

Was this new form the scarred body he had shown the others or was it another body?

(I don't know. Perhaps it another form. Perhaps He can change form at will.)

You ask:
Are we going to be resurrected with a body that looks like the one we now have so others can recognize us? Will the burn victims and amputees still be disfigured?

(Oh and let's not forget the shark attacks and people vaporized in a nuclear war. Puhleeeze!

No Dave, I don't think the resurrected Israelites will bear their scars. I think that YHWH can find their molecules and put them back together the way they were supposed to be in the first place. But Y'shua may bear His scars for eternity for all I know, to always remind Israel of how they were redeemed into the New Covenant.)

You emphasized:
1Co 15:44 IT IS SOWN A NATURAL BODY; IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY. THERE IS A NATURAL BODY, AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.

and followed up with:

Paul seems to indicate we will be given something better then this old physical body.

I reply: You are the one who said "physical body". The quote you gave said "natural body", then says there is a "spiritual body". Nothing about that would indicate that the spiritual body cannot have a physical apspect to it, that it is just an invisible ghost or something.

You said: Yahshua tells us those resurrected will not be married and have children but do you believe physical Israel, after being resurrected, will marry and have children.

I reply: Yes I do. I am somewhat in agreement with Marty's view on how the first fruit resurrection is contrasted with the resurrection of physical Israel. See my replies to Marty.

You asked:

Will they be immortal, spiritual and physical? And maybe you believe physical Israel belong to a different resurrection then what Paul and Yahshua are talking about

I reply:

Yes, yes and yes, but not necessarily in that order. Again I refer you to my previous posts to Marty.

And again I say... Shalom!
T4T

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torah4today wrote: “You said to Jay: My belief is that Israelites through the bloodline (direct physical descendants) are no longer counted as Israel but only those Israelites having faith in Abraham’s seed (Yahshua) are considered Israel.

If this is true, how is it that the tribes of Israel are still a factor? If what you say is true, then EVERYONE in the House of Israel would be of just one tribe; JUDAH (Y'shua being the lion of Judah). Why do we still see the other tribes prominent even as late as the book of Revelation?”

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Because we are grafted into Israel (Jacob) not grafted into Yahshua.

What tribes are Gentiles grafted into? Well, what tribes were they grafted into in the OT when heathens joined Israel, were circumcised and began obeying the law? I don’t know, maybe there was some kind of formula or maybe each tribe gets every twelfth Gentile convert. I bet Yahweh already has that figured out.

Ro 9:6 For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham (bloodline), are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh (bloodline), these are NOT the children of God: but the children of the PROMISE are counted for the seed.

What do you suppose Paul is saying here if he is not saying there is a change in who qualifies to be an Israelite?

”They which are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God.”

The world population may not be that overwhelming. During discussions with His taught ones Yahshua answered them concerning when the end will be here. He stated (I'm paraphrasing) "that when one will be taken and the other left...and they will be placed where the vultures gathered."
I believe when this happens there will not be many people left. Those left will be believers and other people described as "nations". The believers will rule these nations until the deceiver is loosed. It might be possible for the believers to re-populate the earth during the 1000 years. Of course this is my own simple speculation. The TaNaK gives general descriptions of the restoration but descriptions of everyday life is up to us to think about

Signs of the Covenant? Can the two things below be considered true or am I off course a bit.
Foreskin of the Man - "Blood" came from the thing that enables the continuance of human fleshly "life".
Foreskin of the Heart - Spiritual "life" came from the Father who gave Yah'shua's "blood" that enables the continuance of eternal "life".

I know we mainly look at "two" covenants mainly because of the old and new testaments.
But were there not more agreements bewteen the Father and His People?
Could the covenant at Mt. Sinai (Torah) be parallel with the Father giving us Yah'shua
(Living Torah plus he obeyed it completely).

Sorry for the questions but I am wanting what everyone has posted on this thread to click in my head. I am seeing slight disagreements but also alot of similiarities.

Hi Dave, Kurt and T4T,

Just a couple of quick comments,

Dave you said,

"Because we are grafted into Israel (Jacob) not grafted into Yahshua."

I thought we just covered that ground. What are we grafted into?

"KJV John 15:1 I(YAHSHUA) am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me(YAHSHUA) that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it ABIDE IN THE VINE; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing"

We have no hope in Israel at all. Our hope, to include Israel's hope, lies in YAHWEH and His Son YAHSHUA. We are grafted into the true Vine and Eternal Family of YAHWEH. Again, the Holy Spirit does not come from Israel, it comes from the Father. Israel is nothing more than a collection of Human beings, some soon to be changed to Spirit along with the rest of the Firstfruits, and some later to be resurrected to Human beings again.

This idea that Israel somehow pre-empts the Father is just wrong. Nothing comes before in our relationship with YAHWEH. HE, ALONE, gives us His Spirit to become His spiritual children, not to belong to Israel, but to belong to His Family. Yes, Israel is a chosen family to YAHWEH. Yes, spiritual Israel is a figurative way of describing most of the Firstfruits, or maybe just a few of them. But the fact of the matter is that Noah, Enoch and many others were never a part of Israel nor did they need to be, nor was this family even created before they proved themselves worthy through Faith and Works to become Firstfruits.

T4T, I cannot tell you one way or another for lack of scriptural information and/or understanding about those who will be born in the Kingdom to the physical house of Israel. My only understanding stems from the verses that, to me, indicate that they will live forever serving YAHWEH,

"KJV Ezekiel 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. "

I do not see alot of room for play here.

"even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: "

Could they possibly be changed at some point in their human existence, which I think is what you are trying to suggest, I cannot answer that. I know this, it would not make sense that they would be changed into YAHWEHs or what we as potential Firstfruits would be like. There is only one Firstfruit Harvest in my view. However, I must leave that option open for lack of any knowledge to the contrary, and for possibilities that all things are possible through YAHWEH.

I think that talking in terms of Tribes of Israel at this point is moot. I believe it makes absolutely no difference to YAHWEH whether we are jewish, non-jewish, male, female, blind, married, unmarried, etc.

"KJV Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same MASTER over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of YAHSHUA shall be saved.

KJV Colossians 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but YAHSHUA is all, and in all. "

This is the marvelous "good news" that YAHSHUA came preaching.

May YHWH bless and keep all who seek His Face,