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Topic: Is there anything wrong with the word "God"?
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-28-2005 08:05 PM
Mesobaite,I do believe that you have "" hit the nail on the head "" as we say down here, and your points are the true reasons why, people tolerate pagan error of traditions for the sake of numbers in their ch-rches, and so truth takes a back seat for traditions and to please others inorder to please and keep their members. Just like the "" Je'hovah witnesses"" which even admitt that YAHWEH is the correct NAME, however, they say they stay with the false name Je'hovah because people are more familiar with it."" Un quote which is ridicoulous, forsaking truth for tradition is violation of scriptures plain and simple as the scriptures I have given proves the facts. Elyahc=Eljah C.
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-28-2005 08:14 PM
And as for ( Rev.21:12) as I have stated before, it will be inscribed on one of the twelve gates as the NAME of a man, however, it will not be inscribed on one of the twelve gates AS THE TITLE NAME FOR THE CREATOR YAHWEH either, and if anyone cannot see the difference, then, you need to talk to YAHWEH the True Creator about your blindness to that fact.NOTICE:::As for that NAME GAD which "" IS A NAME FOR ONE OF THE SON'S OF JACOB( NOT A TITLE NAME FOR THE CREATOR YAH) being inscribed on one of the 12 gates( Rev.21:12) is true for it IS THE NAME OF A MAN, one of the twelve tribes of Israel, However, it WILL NOT BE INSCRIBED ON ONE OF THE TWELVE GATES ** AS A SUBSTITUTE TITLE NAME FOR THE CREATOR YAHWEH ** either
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-29-2005 03:05 AM
Mesobaite,Yahweh be with you, and how true You are my friend and Brother. """"Again and again I insist and battle with most of you over this: Yahweh should never be defiled with the word God or any other word for that matter. And by defiling I mean a word used primarily to replace his name such as God or Lord; and not a word like El, Elohim, Almighty or creator used to refer to him."""" Unquote. I run the religious forums on the internet confessing as a witness, showing and proving the truth in the scriptures to people concerning the importance of KNOWING, USING, and CONFESSING The true Father YAHWEH and YAHushua Messiah's true name to people ;I also prove to people from examples in the scriptures concerning the practice of IDOLATRY by "" SYNCRETISIM "" that the Children of Israel committed these same things of combinning other nations idol pagan deities such as "" BAAL=LORD and GAD=GAWD=GOD( notice the vowel pointing) ( Judges Chapter 2 and Isa.65:11), which Solomon also practiced the same syncretisim in His old age ( 1 Kings 11:1-6) and he too DID EVIL IN THE SIGHT OF YAHWEH because of such Idolatry by " syncretisim "", which the whole religious world practices today. I know and understand how you feel my Brother, because I too have met much opposition, and have done scriptural battle by using prayer and the sword of the spirit with many proving these things. I received this computer in the Roman month of Sept. of this year 2005 and I have been banned from many religious forums( however many of these forums have been shut down too, for reasons only YAHWEH knows, i had nothing to do with it) merely because I show and write the original scriptures concerning these things; when i'm kick off and barred from one forum( which means they do not reject me, however, they reject YAHWEH and the true Messiah and their POWER AND AUTHORITY, because their POWER( ie-AUTHORITY or NAME ( ie-AUTHORITY)( Acts 4:7) of YAHWEH is thee Authority)I move on to another forum to witness to them the truth concerning Yah's and Messiah's true Name for salvation( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Acts 4:7-12; Rom.10:9-15)and His Torah( laws). However, sometimes I do meet people of YAHWEH and Messiah on some of these forums, and they too use the NAME OF YAHWEH and YAHushua Messiah, and sometimes on these forums Almighty YAH(Exod.3:13-15; Exod.15:2; Psalms 68:4) opens certain people's minds to receive and understand His truth( John 17:17)of scriptures too. I just wanted to let you know, I know what You mean and how you feel, and I agree with your post you made, you hit the nail on its head in your post, and what you said is the truth. Shalom, Yah bless. Elyahc- Eljah C.
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Mesobaite Posts: 717 Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-29-2005 10:49 PM
Elyahc,We like to quote the scripture about the 'love of money being the root of all evil' but most people don't really understand just how far reaching that is. And its so evident in these religions not just christianity. The love of the lies breeds the love of money because mankind loves to be lied to and hates the truth. Take for instance that evil wicked celebration that just went on last weekend. Most christian leaders know that the Messiah could not have been born in winter (they say it was sometime in fall). Yet they insist on celebrating his so called birth day on December 25. Lies, lies and more lies. '...Just lie to me baby I love it...' is what the world says.
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david_ben_yacob Posts: 1131 Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-29-2005 11:09 PM
As a devout user of the name of Yahueh and Yahushua I have to say I agree with Gary P on this topic. This is one of the major stumbling blocks restored Name people put in front of those that want to obey the third commandment but see this man made traditions of the elders among the people that hold that truth is most relevant and takes priority to any traditions of men. The Gad and Baal Gad it has yet to be proven were the Lord or God of the Anglo Saxan people. I have not found any evidence that the peoples of the British Ilses ever worshiped any idol named God that lead etomologically back to Babylon. It is this kind of lack of scolarship that leads people to assume the Restored Name movement is has no merit because they are not able to discern the good and evil maturily of this question of English titles. I in not way advocate the replacing of the name of Yahueh or Yahushua with the English titles Lord or God. Yahueh is my God and Yahushua is my Lord. ------------------ David ben Yacob
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Mesobaite Posts: 717 Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-29-2005 11:20 PM
David,I love you but I feel sorry for your position. And I know nothing of any Sacred name elders. I know what i know because Yahweh showed me through the years and I accepted. Its as simple as that. Again I feel sorry for those who hold this position because if you can't get past who Yahweh is and who God really is then you are utterly confused.
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Mesobaite Posts: 717 Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-29-2005 11:29 PM
Can you find evidence that King James was a Free Mason? Yes. Can you find evidence that he was an Illuminated one (illuminati)? Probably; I suspect a big YES! So how hard would it have been for him to replace the integrity of Yahweh with his own agenda of God? Not hard at all I suppose, especially considering the natural tendency for mankind to love beeing lied to.Why can't we see this? Its because of the ecumenical spirit roving over this earth right now. People are trying so hard to find common ground spiritually. But doesn't scripture say that doesn't exist? Again a big resounding YES! Spiritually harmony with Yah could only be found through Him. And not through the decietfull lies of over zealous 'enlightened or illuminated' men. [This message has been edited by Mesobaite (edited 12-29-2005).]
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Mesobaite Posts: 717 Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-29-2005 11:36 PM
Truth comes out which is supposed to divide us and keep us set apart just like scripture says and people find a way to cloak it and keep so many innocent in deception. Boy prophecy is a serious thing. Doesn't scripture sing this song over and over?
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-29-2005 11:46 PM
"""" love you but I feel sorry for your position. And I know nothing of any Sacred name elders. I know what i know because Yahweh showed me through the years and I accepted. Its as simple as that. Again I feel sorry for those who hold this position because if you can't get past who Yahweh is and who God really is then you are utterly confused. """"Very well put, I live in the deep forests mountains of Ky. U.S.A( where there is no Assemblies by the true name of YAH, and began studying the scriptures almost 25 years ago because of the death of my first born son, I have too have learned through the years from the scriptures as Yah has showed me and read History itself. That idol imaginary image of GAWD is one of the very pagan title names of blasphemy written and used by modern Babylon beast today( Rev.13:1,17 ; Rev.17:5), and millions call upon that title, instead of calling on the TRUE NAME of YAH( 1 Kings 18:24; Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:3) of the true CREATOR. If people cannot see the difference between BAAL GAWD and YAH(As they could not also durring Eliyahu( Elijah) the old Prophets day too, 1 Kings 18), then, you better take that up with the true Creator, for His Name will NEVER CHANGE, as He does not change either( Mal.3:6), no matter how much men want to change and choose what they want to call Him to fit their traditions to hold on to more ch-rch members ie-more money or more FORTUNE( Isa.65:11) for themselves. Elyahc= Eljah C.
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-30-2005 12:21 AM
The scriptures that I wrote in a BACK POST absolutely proves the connection of "" GAWD== Strongs 1409, and GUWD=Strongs 1464, and 1413=Strongs gadad "" which connects with the English "" gading about"" as satan the devil does do.When I received this computer a few months ago, I was suprised at some of the people who KNEW the very same truth of these things as YHWH=YAH has shown me through His original scriptures over the many years such as this one BELOW by Donald Adkins, so I posted them on one of my webpages. Read this Article at... http://www.freewebs.com/elyah/whodoyouworship.htm
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Mesobaite Posts: 717 Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-30-2005 12:22 AM
I think this is an appropriate scripture for this topic and it is taken from the book of Isaiah (Chapter 30). (Keep in mind that the 'Babylon the Great' which is so revered by the enlighted/illuminated ones gained most of its knowledge from the Egyptians):30:1 Woe to the rebellious children, saith Yahweh, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: 30:2 That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of Egypt! 30:3 Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your shame, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt your confusion. 30:4 For his princes were at Zoan, and his ambassadors came to Hanes. 30:5 They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach. 30:6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them. 30:7 For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose: therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit still. 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of Yahweh: 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon: 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. 30:14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit. I especially like verese 5 and 10. In verse 5 we see why the KJV translators chose to take the name of Yah out of their 'translation' because they were ashamed and prejudiced against the people of the true Elohim - the Isrealites. And I already said why i like verse 10 because man loves the sweet intoxicating pleasure of believing lies. [This message has been edited by Mesobaite (edited 12-30-2005).]
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-30-2005 12:40 AM
That idol imaginary image of GAWD=GOD is one of the very pagan title names of blasphemy written and used by modern Babylon beast today( Rev.13:1,17 ; Rev.17:5), and millions call upon that title, instead of calling on the TRUE NAME of YAH( 1 Kings 18:24; Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:3) of the true CREATOR.Also, believe it or not, if you CALL UPON THOSE BLASPHEMOUS TITLE NAMES "" BAAL=LORD, 1167,1168 and "" GAWD =GOD=GUWD=GADAD, 1409, 1413, 1464 "", you are in fact paying homage and worship to the beast and satan the devil, so says ( Rev.9;20-21; Rev.12:9; Rev.13:3-4, and verse 8),through satan's deception. Otherwise, how could satan the devil deceive( Rev.12:9) ALL THEM THAT DWELL UPON THE EARTH SHALL WORSHIP HIM( satan)( Rev.13:3-4, and verse 8)whose NAMES are not written in the Lambs book of life slain from the foundation of the world?? Better re-think about the position in which you may think is right as the Proverb says. Elyahc= Eljah C.
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-30-2005 12:50 AM
You quoted the very scriptures I was going to write next.30:5They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach. 30:6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them. 30:7 For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose: therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit still. 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of Yahweh: 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: And it is exactly so today, and no matter how many scriptural examples that are true is given, men merely love and want lies told to them, as thee Apostle said, "" THEY LOVE A LIE "".
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Elyahc Posts: 268 Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-30-2005 01:11 AM
"""That idol imaginary image of GAWD=GOD is one of the very pagan title names of blasphemy written and used by modern Babylon beast today( Rev.13:1,17 ; Rev.17:5), and millions call upon that title, instead of calling on the TRUE NAME of YAH( 1 Kings 18:24; Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:3) of the true CREATOR. Also, believe it or not, if you CALL UPON THOSE BLASPHEMOUS TITLE NAMES "" BAAL=LORD, 1167,1168 and "" GAWD =GOD=GUWD=GADAD, 1409, 1413, 1464 "", you are in fact paying homage and worship to the beast and satan the devil, so says ( Rev.9;20-21; Rev.12:9; Rev.13:3-4, and verse 8),through satan's deception."""The Messiah and the Desciple John spoke of "" TWO FATHERS "", the one is "" satan the devil( John 8:44; 1 John 3:8-10) and spiritual "" children of the devil "" that wilfully( Heb.10:26) sin/ ie- transgress the Torah( law)( 1 John 3:4), are children of the devil( 1 John 3:8-10); satan it also named the GOD=GAWD of this age( 2 Cor.4:4), and he is a "" master=lord of deception"( Rev.12:9). However, Messiah and John also spoke of the TRUE SACRED FATHER YAH( Psalms 68:4; John 17:11; 1 John 3:10 first part), the question is... If you do not KNOW the true FATHER YAH'S NAME, then, how do you know for certain WHOM you worship and serve? Now, you have been told and warned, and the choice is up to YOU, whom you will worship and serve, for YAH'S NAME IS HIS MEMORIAL( Exod.3:13-15) MARK OF AUTHORITY AND CHARACTOR, and so is satan's name( Rev.13:3-4, 8; Rev.13:17)which is his mark and authority a rebelious charactor against Yah's Commandments. Elyahc- Eljah C.
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Mesobaite Posts: 717 Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-30-2005 01:13 AM
Elyahc,You mentioned the original scriptures above. Do you still have access. And can you translate into todays english? If so can you start with the first sentence; i.e. the beginning?
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