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shofarshogood Posts: 545 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Where is the evidence that "the lord" has to be underpinned by ha ba'al ??? What does ha 'adon mean, then ??? And what evidence is there that aleph-daleth-nun was added to the text hundreds of times ??? Two questions no one has been able to answer, thus far. I continue to hear so many claiming "lord" is only from ba'al; and yet 'adon also means "lord", does it not ??? |
Yahwehwitnesses Posts: 2247 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Blessings shofarshogood, Not exactly. The word Lord is much more modern and is an English word. The word Adoni means "My Master" and is more Phoenician. Adonai signifies "The supreme G-d" El-Shadday, or "The one true G-d" as in Eloha. If my post above was enough evidence, I guess the only other things I can include would be that we only have copies of copies of the scriptures, and you need to understand where they came from and that the English language has added AEIOU vowels and sometimes "Y" that latter became a "J" in some cases. What a mess the English Language is. Was the title Adoni "my master" ever used in the ancient scriptures for the one true G-d YHWH? Then along came Adonay... You need to understand all the English vowels that have been added to these words, and their orgins. The English word Lord did replace the name of YHWH over 6000 times, and since then, the word Adoni has been added to certain scripture books. I see no reason at all why anybody that knows the name YHWH would want to call him Lord, unless they were instructed to or deceived by men. If Lord is said to mean "master or sir", then how about we remove the title Lord,lord and get to the intended meaning and restore the name of YHWH. One real big problem is Babylonian Baal is also Canaanite Adon. Lot's of debates about this topic. I studied it till my hair turned grey, and that does not make me anything but old. Many will say when someone speaks the word Lord "I know who they are talking about.. That's wrong! It's impossible for most people to know if the spoken word Lord is upper case or lower case. When many Christains say praise the Lord, or HalleluYah they think they are saying "Praise Jesus". The words Lord, Adoni, Adonay placed into the scriptures in any language has caused alot of confusion to many. The name YHWH has brought all truth to all that will listen. Shalom in YHWH, Brother Yohanan |
Missy Posts: 2643 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: I don't neccessarily know if "the lord" has to be underpinned by baal but many feel because of the closeness the translation of the names they shouldn't use any pagan likeness in close proximity to the name of Yahweh. So they don't use lord when referring to Yahweh. The name "Adonai" is derived from the Hebrew word, "Adon," meaning master. The vocalization of the last syllable of "Adonai" is unique. Instead of the vowel sound, "Patach," which would render the meaning of the word as "my lord," the vowel is a "Kamatz," which turns the word into a name. As a result, in the European Ashkenazic tradition, "Adonai" is pronounced as "Adonoi." Since this is the name of Elohim associated with prayer in the Torah, the Rabbis of the Talmud adopted it as the substitute for the unpronounceable Tetragrammaton. Thus, they say "Adonai" instead of YHWH or YHVH when they pray or read from the Torah.
quote: Well if you mean Aleph, Daleth, Nun and Yod as in the four letters of Adonai, all you have to do is look in the front of any English Bible like the NIV or NASB, etc to see that they admit to have done to the translation. In front of my very own NASB, they say that Adonai is one of the titles for "God is Lord". They employ LORD and THE LORD as a translation of the Hebrew word Adonai.
quote: I don't neccessarily think "lord" is from ba'al, but as I said above many associate the title lord with Baal, a Phonecian diety. Over time, it has become a proper name. Here is what is in the Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary concerning baal: #1168 ba’al, bah’al; the same as 1167; Baal, a Phoenician deity:-Baal, (plur.) Baalim. Ba’al seems to have gradually became a proper name. A similar Semitic word derives from the Aryan root Bhal, which means "to shine," according to some. According to W. H. Roscher’s well-known lexicon of mythology, Ba’al (Bel, Belos) was the ancestral and national deity of the Semites, and says that Ba’al was the founder of Babel (Babylon), according to secular history. He is identified with Zeus, Jupiter, Ammon, Asshur, Assur, Kronos, and Bel-Markud. Morris Jastrow, Max Müller, and W. H. Roscher all three agree: Baal is the Babylonian sun deity. The Ba’als of the nations were sun deities, and Ba’al worship means sun worship. So you can see why those that believe Yahweh is the one true Elohim wouldn't want to confuse their usage with the name Ba'al. I suppose some could say that is overboard, but some would think it's better to be safe than sorry. As I pointed out above Adon means "master". Some believe if you translate Ba'al Gad into English it is LORD GOD, which is employed in many English Bibles. And it's a form of worshipping another god, rather than the one true Elohim, Yahweh. So I am sure you can see why many believers take issue with the usage of LORD and the LORD, although you may not agree that it is neccessary. Shalom, |
Yahwehwitnesses Posts: 2247 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Blessings Missy, Very good info. I agree with most all of what you said above. Just want to add that there are those that do not want to utter Abba's name because they were taught not to. And there are those that rather use Hashem. Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith Yahweh, that thou shalt call me Ishi, and shalt call me no more Baali . 17 For I will take away the names of the Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be mentioned by their name. 01180 Baali / Ba`aliy {bah-al-ee'} 01168 Baalim / Ba`al {bah'-al}
Brother Yohanan [This message has been edited by Yahwehwitnesses (edited 12-21-2005).] |
shofarshogood Posts: 545 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yahwehwitnesses: [B]Blessings shofarshogood, Not exactly. The word Lord is much more modern and is an English word. The word Adoni means "My Master" and is more Phoenician. Adonai signifies "The supreme G-d" El-Shadday, or "The one true G-d" as in Eloha. If my post above wasn't enough evidence,... REPLY: I'm sorry, but I do not see any evidence that Aleph-dalet-nun-(yod) was added to the "original" Hebrew text. QUOTE: Was the title Adoni "my master" ever used in the ancient scriptures for the one true G-d YHWH? REPLY: No. Adonoy (with vowel chamets chatuph) was used, not Adoniy (with vowel chirik) QUOTE: Then along came Adonay... You need to understand all the English vowels that have been added to these words, and their orgins. REPLY: Aleph-dalet-nun-yod appears hundreds of times in the Masoretic text, and is pointed as both adoniy and adonoy. Adoniy always refers to men and angels while adonoy refers only to YHWH Ts'va'oth. ??? What evidence do you have that proves the (remaining) approx. 311 times that 'Adonoy appears in the Masoretic text were added later" ??? (This is not including the approx. 132 times that it is said that yod-hey-waw-hey was changed to Adonoy.) ??? QUOTE: The English word Lord did replace the name of YHWH over 6000 times REPLY: That is a different issue. QUOTE: ...and since then, the word Adoni has been added to certain scripture books. REPLY: Provide evidence of this having been done, please. QUOTE: I see no reason at all why anybody that knows the name YHWH would want to call him Lord, unless they were instructed to or deceived by men. REPLY: There are approx. 311 times that YHWH is referred to as 'Adonoy, 'Adonoy YHWH, YHWH 'Adonoy, and 'Adonoy YHWH Ts'va'oth, in the current Masoretic text (not including the approx. 132 ammendations of the sopheriym). So, again, what proof is there that these 311 times were added later ? And what proof is there that aleph-dalet-nun is of paegan origin ? Would this not suggest that the entire Hebrew language, as we know it today, is of paegan origin ? For I continually hear Brethren say... "'adon is paegan !". So am I to believe all Hebrew is paegan ??? Is the Hebrew word ba'al paegan ??? Or is it a perfectly legitimate Hebrew word that happens to refer to both men and paegan deities ? Is 'Elohiym a paegan term, or is it a perfectly legitimate Hebrew term that happens to refer to men, angels, YHWH, AND paegan deities ??? For I am continually rebuked for saying 'adonoy, but for ever encouraged to say 'Elohiym ?!?!?! And yet, both titles appear in the Hebrew text. In fact, 'Adonoy is always specific to YHWH, while 'Elohiym is NOT ! So how do I know whom one is referring to when they use the more general term... 'Elohiym ??? On the other hand, I know exactly to Whom they refer when they say 'Adonoy.
Lot's of debates about this topic. I studied it till my hair turned grey, and that does not make me anything but old. REPLY: So, this means calling YHWH " 'Adonoy " is the same as calling Him Ba'al ? If so, then why isn't calling Him 'Elohiym the same as calling Him a paegan deity, or an angel, or a man ??? Again, if aleph-dalet-nun-(yod) is a legitimate Hebrew term, then we musn't demonize it, or those who use it. So, it is up to the conspiracy theorists to provide proof that aleph-dalet-nun is not a legitimate Biblical Hebrew term. (in my incredibly humble opinion, that is) Shalom aleikhem, beloved Brother. |
Yahwehwitnesses Posts: 2247 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Blessings Shofarshogood, My entire point is our heavenly Father's name is YHWH and we are to call him by his name. I'm against replacing or substituting his name with a handed down man-made titles of any language. My purpose is to exalt my heavenly Father everlasting name so that others might also know his name. Many good and evil ones are called elohim, el, l, god, gods, and many men were also called Lord. And many Rabbis do teach not to utter the most name, and instead to use a so-called suitable title. I have zero desire to get into fruitless debates of earthly spellings or pronunciations. It's the meaning, understanding and purpose that's important. If we substitute his name and/or speak thereof without power "proper effect", then we take his name in vain. I only hope that others will know his name is YHWH, and not Lord etc.., etc... Even the "J" witnesses know that but they still call him Jehovah. HalleluYah does not mean: "Praise ye the Lord"... Yesh 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak; behold, it is I. [This message has been edited by Yahwehwitnesses (edited 12-23-2005).] |
Elyahc Posts: 268 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I agree Brother Yohanan, There is the one word "" lord "" meaning " Baal" which means Husband, Sir,E.T.C., however, there is another use of the word "" Baal "" which refers to the "" Babylonian Deity( Isa.65:11) call BAAL=1167,1168=LORD and GAD=GAWD=GUWD= 1409, 1464., and is being used today as a common noun name substituted for YHWH=Yah. This was the same what happened in the time of Eliyahu the Prophet, and it is considered IDOLATRY to YHWH=Yah. This word "" GAD=GAWD"" is the same word even in pronounciation. People have forsaken YHWH= YAH( See Psalms 68:4, S.E.C. H.N. 3050) the true Creator and author of the scriptures for the Babylonian deity of fortune called Baal God or Baal Gawd( Isa. 65:11). This word " god " is of pagan origin and was adopted as the name of the Creator upon the conversion of the TEUTONIC( German) races to christianity. http://88.1911encyclopedia.org/G/GO/GOD.htm Look up this Hebrew title names of " GAD=1409,GUWD "= 1464 that is used in ( Isa.65:11) of "" THAT TROOP "" see center reference column, the English uses " God from German Gott= Guth and the English " GOD= GAD=Number 1409 from 1464= GUWDand is the same word. Click on the pronounciation of this word GAD=GOD=GUWD at these addressess Dictionary below. http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?search=1409&version=kjv&type=eng&submit=Find http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gad Now be honest with yourself, is this not the same word as ""GOD=GAD=GAWD "" and pronounced the same ? The Swedish and Dutch use " GUD " is their title for the English " GOD", and you can recognize the Dutch form of " Gud " in Hebrew number 1464 as GUwD. YHWH= Yah( Psalms 68:4) the true Creator has been forsaken for "" Baal GAWD=God( Isa.65:11) in the end times as the prophecies say( See Jer.23:20, 26-27) and ( Hosea 2:16-17)( See and read my Article above very carefully concerning " LORD= Baal and God=Gad). Have we not considered it perfectly IN THE LATTER DAYS( Yer.23:20)? Otherwise how has satan the devil deceived the whole world( Rev.12:9) into worshipping him in the LATTER DAYS( Rev.9:20-21; Rev.13:3-4, verse--8 ?? Who do you worship and serve, the Babylonian deity"" Baal GOD=GAD=GAWD "" or the true YHWH= Yah( Exod.15:2; Psalms 68:4) ? |
Elyahc Posts: 268 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Please click on the addresses above AND SCROLL DOWN to read about the pagan origin of the words, and scroll down and click on the PRONOUNCIATION of number 1409, 1464 of GAD=GAWD=GUWD. |
Elyahc Posts: 268 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Rom 10:13 for, Whosoever shall call upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved. Brother Yohanan, Right on Brother, ( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:13) SHALL BE SAVED. However, Paul asked a few questions in ( Rom.10:9-15) ""14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? Yea, how can the common people call on Him, when they have never even heard nor known nor believed in His Name? |
Elyahc Posts: 268 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Brother Matthew Janzen wrote...( posted 12-04-2005 06:25 AM ) """"The tetragrammaton is so solid in the OT, right up to the time of Malachi, that there is no reason to assume that its usage just fell off the face of the map at large. Yahweh rebukes the priests who despise his name in this prophetic book (Malachi 1:6-11), does he not rebuke those that don't even use His name just 400 years later in the book of Mattithyahu (Matthew)?"" There is something I want to let the scriptures point out here concerning "" THE PRIESTS "" that are rebuked for not using YAHWEH'S Name. This message in ( Mal.) is just as pertinant and even more important today as it was when it was written.( Why you may ask?) Many Prophecies are " dual in nature, otherwise one is a type or forerunner of a latter fulfillment". In the New Testament we are told that Yahweh's Elect are"" Kings and PRIESTS ""( Rev.1:6; Rev.5:10; Rev.20:6) with the Messiah as the Main "" HIGH PRIEST ""Heb.7:21-26). I tell you, this scripture in ( Mal.) is just as pertinant today and more so spiritually than it was when it was written, and surely the Desciples were fully aware of this, because we are told that Yahweh's Elect are Kings and PRIESTS in the New Testament, and therefore if the Desciple disreguarded this text in ( Mal.), and did not use and proclaim His Name to the common people, then would not they be guilty of do the same as those PRIESTS in the Old teastament?? No, they are not guilty, because Paul asked those questions in ( Rom.10:14-15), of how could the common people call on HIM and his name whom they have not even heard or believed ? If the Desciples only used the title names of "" Kurios or Theos "", then how could the rest of the Roman world differeniate from their deities( which they referred to as their Deities of Theos and Kurios) from the true Creator YHWH=YAHWEH when speaking to people's of Gentile Nations ?? I recommend that people read 2 BOOKLETS By ( Larry and June Acheson) called Either the desciples declared and used the sacred name of YAH(Psalms Exod.15:2; Psalms68:4) as Messiah also did( John 17:26), or they committed Idolatry( Exod.20:2-7; Exod.23:13), which we know that Paul did not( See Acts 24:14). |
Yahwehwitnesses Posts: 2247 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Blessings ElYahc, Proverbs 3:5 - Trust in YHWH with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. YHWH loved us first and we must love him back. Prove all things. We must obey him and keep his laws. Through Yahshua "the Word of YHWH" we must become born again unto the Father. Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
The kingdom is within us. HalleluYah! Brother Yohanan |
Elyahc Posts: 268 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Greetings Brother Yohanan, I have an article written that goes very well with this subject, however, it it rather leanthy but well worth the reading. Let's see what happens when people replace YHWH'S Name with the title of " lord=baal and gad=god"( as churchianity has done today) as in a proper name in substitute for Yah's true Name. The same has happened today as it did in Old Eliyahu The Prophet's day, and let me elaborate this happening with scriptures compared to today. Old Elijah the Prophet pointed out to those of his day concerning YHWH'S Name=YAH( Exod.15:2;Psalms 68:4), and WHOM TO CALL UPON, whether " lord 1167,1168,god=baal gad"=1409,1464=GAWD, or YAH. Let's examine this amazing story of Eliyahu (Elijah) now in First Kings (First Melakim) 18:17-40 using the King James Version that people are familiar with so you get the overview of that passage prior to seeing revealed truth. 17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, (Art) thou he that troubleth Israel? 18 And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim. 19 Now therefore send, [and] gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel's table. 20 So Ahab sent unto all the children of Israel, and gathered the prophets together unto mount Carmel. 21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD (be) God, follow him: but if Baal, (then) follow him. And the people answered him not a word. (opinions: or, thoughts?) 22 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, (even) I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal's prophets (are) four hundred and fifty men. 23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay (it) on wood, and put no fire (under) : and I will dress the other bullock, and lay (it) on wood, and put no fire (under) : 24 And call ye on the name of your gods( deity), and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. (It is in...: Heb. The word is good) 25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress (it) first; for ye (are) many; and call on the name of your gods( deity), but put no fire (under). 26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed [it], and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But [there was] no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. (hear: or, answer) (answered: or, heard) (leaped...: or, leaped up and down at the altar) 27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he (is)a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, (or) peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. {aloud: Heb. with a great voice} {he is talking: or, he meditateth) (is pursuing: Heb. hath a pursuit) 28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them. {the blood...: Heb. poured out blood upon them} 29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the [time] of the offering of the [evening] sacrifice, that [there was] neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded. {offering: Heb. ascending} {that regarded: Heb. attention} 30 And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD (that was) broken down. 31 And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name: 32 And with the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD: and he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two measures of seed. 33 And he put the wood in order, and cut the bullock in pieces, and laid [him] on the wood, and said, Fill four barrels with water, and pour (it) on the burnt sacrifice, and on the wood. 34 And he said, Do (it) the second time. And they did (it) the second time. And he said, Do (it) the third time. And they did (it) the third time. 35 And the water ran round about the altar; and he filled the trench also with water. {ran: Heb. went) 36 And it came to pass at (the time of) the offering of the (evening) sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou (art) God in Israel, and (that) I (am) thy servant, and (that) I have done all these things at thy word. 37 Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that thou (art) the LORD God, and [that] thou hast turned their heart back again. 38 Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that [was] in the trench. 39 And when all the people saw [it], they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he [is] the God; the LORD, he [is] the God. 39 And when all the people saw [it], they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he [is] the God; the LORD, he [is] the God. 40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.
There is something much deeper in here that has not been revealed to you and how a large portion of this scripture passage is a mirror image to this very day we live in for you will soon see that the "Prophets of Ba'al" (including Ba'al worship) are still in existence all around you and I each and every day. Prepare to brace yourself, this could make you very uncomfortable at least when it is revealed to you just how close to home this really comes to you. Now we need to digress to a short passage in Shemoth (Exodus) 3:13-15 where Moses is asking our Heavenly Father, the Elohim of Israel what he is to say the children of Israel (ISR Version): 13. ...and they say to (ask of) me, "What is His Name?" what shall I say to them?" 14. And Elohim said to Mosheh (Moses), "I am that which I am." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Yisra'el, "I am has sent me to you." 15. And Elohim said further to Mosheh, "Thus you are to say to the children of Yisra'el, "YHWH Elohim ... This is My Name forever, and this is My remembrance( Memorial) to all generations." Here we see that Yah (YHWH) indirectly answered Mosheh's question of "whom shall I say has sent me" with "I am that which I am" and "I am has sent me to you". What our Heavenly Father told Mosheh was the MEANING OF HIS NAME first before He actually told him His Name! Yes, many people have never heard the Name, Yah (YHWH), and did/do not know the MEANING OF HIS NAME. Yah means "I am - I exist - I will be". "I will be what I will be". "I will be a burning bush", "I will be a pillar of fire by night", "I will be a cloud by day", "I will be a mighty rushing wind", etc. etc. Yah was demonstrating that the MEANING of NAMES is extremely important and that He wanted His people to know what His Name meant before He actually revealed His One Name! And in( Exodus)Shemoth 6:2 His One Name is reiterated again. "And Elohim spoke to Mosheh and said to him, "I am YHWH." 6:3 says "...And by my Name, YHWH, was I not known to them?" ( Notice the question mark there?) 6:6 says "Say, therefore, to the children of Yisra'el, I am YHWH" See also verses 7, 8, 29. ( Exodus)Shemoth 15:3 says "YHWH is a man of battle, YHWH is His Name." The point being elaborated here is of extreme importance. NAMES are IMPORTANT and the MEANINGS of NAMES are equally IMPORTANT. If you take the modern Bible versions (over the last 400 plus years) you will see that "the LORD" could not possibly be our Heavenly Father's Name. It should have never been added to (Prov. 30:6) neither anything taken away (Rev. 22:19). REMOVING the One True Name of YHWH and ADDING "the LORD" is an abomination and judgment will result accordingly to His purpose. Now we might have struck a nerve here and you might not want to proceed with the truth of the Eliyahu passage above. YHWH does not mean "the LORD" it means "I am - I exist". Also, there are two Hebrew words that do have a meaning of "lord". They are: 1) Adonai meaning "lord, master" as in a TITLE and, Are you ready now for the truth of First( 1 Kings) Melakim 18? Below you will find the same passage of First ( 1 Kings)Melakim 18 with the meaning of the name of Ba'al in place of Ba'al. When you see this, you will recognize that this passage hits as close to home as any passage can get. The following should prove to you that the people who followed the Prophets of Ba'al ( or lord) were a very religious people and might very well resemble many whom call themselves Christians today. 1) They BELIEVED in the One True Elohim ( or as is said today God=Gad). 2) They BELIEVED He would answer their prayers or they would not have said in Verse 24 "The word is good.". 3) They BELIEVED that the One True LORD God would accept their offering/sacrifice of the bull on the altar they built. He had obviously accepted their offerings before or they would have been reluctant and unwilling to attempt an unproven effort. They were, after all, Israelites, right? Of course! 4) They BELIEVED with all their hearts that Their LORD knew their hearts and that He would accept them just the way they were in their religious state of activities and affairs. Also remember, these Scriptures were ORIGINALLY WRITTEN in HEBREW not Greek or Latin or English. When they spoke in Hebrew and "called upon the name of the LORD", they called and said the Hebrew word "Ba'al" (Hebrew meaning "Lord"). Where the English version have replaced the Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH (Yah's Name) with "LORD" or "GOD", here is the subtlety of deception and the clouding of the Truth. This REPLACEMENT did not just happen a few times; but try 6,823 times!!! Your King James Version, your NIV, or any of the other "modern non-restored name versions" should have YHWH in place of "the LORD" and you should at least know that where you read "Ba'al" in any version it means "the LORD" to the Hebrew people in the Hebrew language. You are about to see why Eliyahu was so HATED by King Ahab and the prophets of Ba'al and the people who followed the prophets of Ba'al. (See also Jeremiah 23:26-27 and Hoshea 2:16-17). Now, let's RE-EXAMINE the amazing story of Eliyahu now in First Melakim (1 Kings) 18:17-40), except this time we will insert the "" title name of ' Lord ' for ' Baal ', for the word ' Lord ' means ' Baal ' in Hebrew."" 17. And it came to be, when Ahab saw Eliyahu, that Ahab said to him, "Is that you, 0 disturber of Yisra'el?" 18. And he answered, "I have not disturbed Yisra'el, but you and your father's house, in that you have forsaken the commands of YHWH, and you have followed the ways of the Lord(=Baal)." 19. "And now, send and gather all Yisra'el to me on Mount Karmel, the four hundred and fifty prophets [preachers] of the Lord( Baal), and the four hundred prophets of Asherah [Compare another example in Judges 2--Easter- Astarte-Ashtoreth-Ishtar priests], who eat at Izabel's (Jezebel's) table." 20. Ahab then sent for all the children of Yisra'el( Israel), and gathered the prophets on Mount Karmel. 21. And Eliyahu( Elijah) came to all the people and said, "How long would you keep hopping between two opinions? If YHWH is Elohim, follow Him; and if the Lord( Baal), follow him." But the people answered him not a word. 22.And Eliyahu said to the people, "I alone am left a prophet of YHWH, but the prophets [preachers] of the Lord( Baal) are four hundred and fifty men." 23. "Now let them give us two bulls. And let them choose one bull for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on the wood, but set no fire. And I, I prepare the other bull, and shall lay it on the wood, but set no fire." 24."And you shall call on the name of your mighty one [the Lord=Baal], and I, I call on the Name of YHWH. And the Elohim who answers by fire, His is Elohim." So all the people answered and said, "The word is good." [they were in total agreement] Pause here first, Compare the above verse 24 of "" CALL ON THE NAME OF YOUR( Lord=Baal), with "" Whosoever SHALL CALL ON THE NAME YHWH=YAH( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:13)SHALL BE SAVED. Continue. 25. And Eliyahu said to the prophets [preachers] of the Lord( Baal), "Choose one bull for yourselves and prepare it first, for you are many. And call on the name of your mighty one( Lord=Baal), but set no fire." 26. So they took the bull which was given them, and prepared it, and called upon the name of the Lord( Baal) from morning even until noon, saying, "O Lord( Baal), answer us!" But there was no voice and no one answered. And they leaped about the altar which they had made. Pause Again here a second time, Compare the above verse 26 of "" CALLED UPON THE NAME OF LORD( BAAL)"" as the Baal=Lord prophets were doing with "" Whosoever shall CALL UPON THE NAME OF YHWH(=3050,3068=YAH)( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:9-14) SHALL BE DELIVERED OR SAVED."" Surely You can SEE this comparison of " WHICH NAME TO CALL UPON, whether YHWH-YAH, or whether to call upon " LORD= BAAL and Gad=God"? Continue now. 27. And it came to be at noon, that Eliyahu taunted them and said, "Cry aloud, for he is a mighty one; he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or it could be that he is asleep and has to be awakened!" 28. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves, according to their ruling, with knives and spears, until the blood gushed out on them. 29. And it came to be when midday was past, that they prophesied until the time of the bringing of the evening offering. But there was no voice and no one answered, and no one paying attention. 30. Then Eliyahu said to all the people, "Come closer to me." And all the people came closer to him. And he repaired the altar of YHWH that was broken down. 31. And Eliyahu took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Ya'aqob (Jacob), to whom the word of YHWH had come, saying, "Yisra'el is your name." 32. And with the stones he built an altar in the Name of YHWH. And he made a trench around the altar large enough to hold two seahs [about 5 gallons] of seed. 33. And he arranged the wood, and cut the bull in pieces, and laid it on the wood, and said, "Fill four jars with water, and pour it on the burnt offering and on the wood." 34. Then he said, "Do it a second time," and they did it a second time. And he said, "do it a third time," and they did it a third time. 35. And the water flowed around the altar, and he filled the trench with water, too. 36. And it came to be, at the time of the bringing of the evening offering, that Eliyahu the prophet came near and said, "YHWH Elohim of Abraham, Yitshaq (Isaac), and Yisra'el, let it be known today: You are the Elohim in Israel, and I Your servant, have done all these matters by Your word. 37. "Answer me, O YHWH, answer me, and let this people know that You are YHWH Elohim, and You shall turn their hearts back to You again." 38. Then the fire of YHWH fell and consumed the burnt offering, and the wood and the stones and the dust, and it licked up the water that was in the trench. 39. And all the people saw, and fell on their faces, and said, "YHWH, He is the Elohim! YHWH, He is the Elohim!" 40. And Eliyahu said to them, "Seize the prophets [preachers] of the Lord( Baal)! Do not let them escape!" So they seized them, and Eliyahu brought them down to the wadi Qishon and slaughtered them there. Is it not inescapeable to NOT SEE WHO TO CALL UPON FOR SALVATION, whether YHWH, or whether " Baal Gad==LORD GOD" ? Think about this if you will. If you were separated from your parents from birth and raised by a different family and later you became of age to be on your own. When you were old enough to be on your own, you might find yourself drawn to finding your parents. The primary piece of the puzzle to finding your long lost family WOULD BE TO KNOW YOUR FATHER'S NAME and you might also need to find out if your father's name had been changed or he was being called by something other than his true name. Likewise, we were all "conceived in sin" and separated from our Heavenly Father. The ONLY WAY we can find our way back to our Heavenly Father is by KNOWING and CALLING upon the OnlyTRUE Name under Heaven whereby we might be rescued (saved)! The prophets of Eliyahu's day didn't think His Name was important so they just called him "the LORD"= Ba'al. What about you? Old Eliyahu The Prophet was there to tell, according to YHWH's timing, all the Northern Tribes of Yisra'el that their "flavor" of worshiping the one true creator was Not YAH'S WAY but rather it was the way of "the LORD" (Baal worship). It is the same for us today. We have inherited lies but now truth has been revealed and we can no longer claim ignorance as an excuse. YHWH has brought you to this point in your life to read this teaching according to His perfect plan for you. "I know the plans I have for you, declares YHWH". YermeYahu 29:11 (Jeremiah). Old Eliyahu The Prophet was sent there by YHWH, as ONE MAN ALONE, to tell the RELIGIOUS children of Yisra'el that denying or calling Him Baal=Lord, and then applying it to and praying to Yah, the NAME OF THE ONE TRUE ELOHIM was not going to "cut it" anymore. Calling the Heavenly Father by titles or attributes or "Ba'al" or "the LORD" as people do in English today is just plain violation of scripture( Exod.20:1-7; Exod.23:13; Deut.5:7; Joshua 23:7) once we come out of our ignorance that we have been born into and realize it. We all know that while we were yet in ignorance, we had our prayers answered by our Heavenly Father when we called upon Him as "the LORD". Right? It is extremely hard to justify changing what we perceive is not broken. Therefore, we have a natural tendency to "stick with the proven" rather than explore what we would believe is NEW and unproven. It is no different today, and there is a great true lesson concerning old Elijah the Prophet, as compared to Messiah's statements in ( John 8:44) and ( John 17:11) as He reveals "" THE TWO FATHERS ". Yah( Psalms 68:4) is called the true Holy Father By Messiah in ( S.John 17:11), and satan the devil is also called an evil false " father " by Messiah in ( John 8:44). There is also spiritual " children of the devil "( 1 John 3:8-10) and " The Children of YAH". Compare these 2 parallels of Elijah's day, with that of today, concerning WHAT NAME AND WHOM to call on to be delivered or saved from sin, and for you to receive SALVATION and Eternal Life. Compare ( 1 Kings 18:24) of those who"" CALL ON YOUR ELOHIM(lords and gods)", as compared to ( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:13), of "" Whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF " the lord"( = YHWH=YAH, 3050,3068) SHALL BE DELIVERED OR SAVED. The K.J.V. uses " the LORD ", a pagan title. Well what is " THE LORD'S " NAME ? Why it is YHWH= YAH( Psalms 68:4). Compare these texts. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH=Yah shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as YHWH=Yah hath said, and in the remnant whom YHWH=Yah shall call. (Joel 2:32 AV) For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of YHWH=Yah, to serve him with one consent. (Zephaniah 3:9 AV) And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YHWH=Yah is my Elohim. (Zechariah 13:9 AV) Then they that feared YHWH=Yah spake often one to another: and YHWH=Yah hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared YHWH=Yah, and that thought upon his name. (Malachi 3:16 AV) And call ye on the name of your deities( lords and gods), and I will call on the name of YHWH=Yah: and the Elohim that answereth by fire, let him be Elohim. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. And Eliyahu( Elijah) said unto the prophets of Baal( lord), Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your( idol) deities( lords and gods), but put no fire under. (1 Kings 18:24-25 AV). The True Creator YAH( Psalms 68:4) said through Isaiah the Prophet( and this is a prophecy referring to our time) " "" But ye are they that FORSAKE YHWH( S.C.D.3050,3068=YAH), THAT FORGET my holy mountain, that prepare a table for " THAT TROOP( Strongs.H.C.D. Numbers 1408,1409== GAD=GOD=GAWD, see margin)..( Isa.65:11). This " deity" called " GOD= GAD= GAWD= BAAL GAD= LORD GOD " is the very deity( See my original post) that people are calling the true Creator YAH today, exactly as the prophecy says. Then, again, in ( Jer.23:26-27) He says again speaking about todays prophets , "" Which think to cause my people TO FORGET MY NAME( YHWH=YAH, not titles)... as their ( fore) fathers have forgotten my NAME( YHWH=YAH, not titles) for BAAL( = LORD AND GOD= BAAL GAD= LORD GOD). Then again He says, "" For I will take the NAMES( PLURAL) OF BAALIM( = LORD GOD, BAAL GAD) OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS( Hosea 2:16-17). If He is going to take the names of BAALIM( = lord god=baal gad) out of peoples mouths, then why not get an early start at doing that today ? These verses are very clear as to WHAT people are calling Him today, and He certainly does NOT approve of it either. There is another Prophecy pertaining to " the false BAAL MINISTERS " of today, and it is in ( Mal.2:1-4-) which says, """ And now O YE PRIESTS( Modern ministers), this commandment is for YOU. If you will not hear( listen), and if you will not lay it to HEART( MIND), TO GIVE GLORY UNTO MY NAME( = YAH-- not titles lord and gad), saith YHWH( = YAH= 3050,3068) of hosts, I will even send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings: YEA, I have cursed them already, because YOU DO NOT LAY IT TO HEART( or your mind). Behold, I will corrupt your seed( children), AND SPREAD DUNG( Manour) upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts, and one shall take you away with it( Mal.2:1-4)."" Strong words there from YHWH( =YAH), and He even says that the modern day priests and prophets have ROBBED HIM( Mal.3), and EVEN ROBBED HIM OF HIS NAME( YAH) for titles of BAALIM, and that is exactly what is going on today in churchianity. History repeats itself. Many of the " Churches of God " groups claim that ( Mal.3:8-10) is referring to the people of the nation that has robbed the Creator of MONEY or TITHES, but this verse is referring TO THE " PRIESTS AND PROPHETS( Mal. 2:1-4- THIS COMM. IS FOR YOU O PRIESTS) that have robbed the Creator, and even ROBBED HIM of HIS NAME( of YHWH=YAH- Psalms 68:4-). Some Examples and some Questions: Let's say someone( mother ) had a " son " and he was 16 years old, and that " son " when talking to his Mother in public, that " son " would call his Mother by the name of " Dummy "( not that he had a speach problem tho.), instead of calling her " Mommy ", would that " Mother " still NOT TRY to correct that " son " from calling her " Dummy " ? Another Question : How would you like it, if someone repeatedly called you by a " name " ( such as Alah or Bin laden), that you know you do not like or do not want to be called such a " name "? Let's say your name was " Mike ", and someone out of ignorance called you " Spike ", then, you would probably " wink at such ignorance " the first time, but, if that person repeatedly kept calling you " Spike " every time that you talked to that person, even though you TRIED to correct them, would you still let that person keep calling you " Spike " , even though that person knew your name was " Mike " ? It seems that people want to call the Creator YAH by any and every other name or title( which He states He does not approve), but except by the name that He- Himself- gave to Himself. This has nothing to do with a person having a speech problem, but if a 16 year old repeatedly called you " Dummy " instead of " Mommy- Mom" in public or private, would you continuely allow that child of your's to do so ? No person in their " right mind " will continually allow another person to call them by a " name "( unless that person does have a speech handicap) that you do not like or want to be called such a name, which you do not like repeatedly over and over. You would eventually get annoyed, and avoid, and ignor " that person ". Or, is it like the " Johnny Cash " song ? Call him " Bill, George, but anything except " sue " ? Well, it seems there are a whole lot of so-called children( adults in traditional christianity) that do not even know the Creator's true Name of YHWH=YAH( Psalms 68:4), they merely call Him by the " titles " like " Mr." or " sir " or " master ", but never by the Name that He- Himself even referred to Himself with. Well, how about the " Children " showing and respecting the " Heavenly Father " and His Great Name of YHWH=YAH ( Psalms 68:4-) ? Otherwise, how do you know for certain just really WHOM you worship and serve( the false father satan, John 8:44-) or the TRUE HEAVENLY FATHER( John 17:11-) of YHWH=YAH ? The Messiah made many similar examples of this( as I pointed out above) in the 4 Gospels, yet people claim to live by them, but in reality, they skip over them in ignorance, and say " its silly ". And He( Messiah) shall turn the hearts( minds) of the " Fathers " to the children, and the hearts( minds) of the children to their " Fathers", unless I come and smite the earth with a curse( Mal.4:6-). I have another question for people. How do you KNOW for certain just WHO you pray to and worship, IF you do not know the true Creator Father and His real true Name of YHWH=YAH( Psalms 68:4)? The devil is called a " father " by Messiah in ( S. John 8:44), and he is also called a " god " in ( 2 Cor.4:4), and satan is also a " master=lord" of deception( Rev.12:9). Some few people know and realize that ( Mal.4:6) has the meaning of " " turning the hearts( minds) of the children to the fathers, and the hearts( Minds) of the fathers to their children "" to mean turning people's minds back to the belief and teachings of " Abraham, Moses, e.tc.". But, there is another spiritual meaning to that verse( Mal.4:6); for there are " spiritual children of the devil( 1 John 3:8)", and satan the devil is called a " father " by Messiah in ( St. John 8:44) as I pointed out above. And, I might add, that those who merely " believed on Him"( they had faith in Him without obedience) the Messiah in ( St. John 8:30-31), but they actually wanted TO KILL HIM( St.John 8:37,40), and Messiah said " that their father was the devil( St. John 8:44). And, there are " millions " today, that merely " believe on Him ", and act the part like those " Jews which believed on Him " as above. Also, the Desciple Peter explicitly stated, "" There is salvation in NONE OTHER NAME( or Person of Authority), for there is NONE OTHER NAME, given among men under heaven, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Acts 4:1-12; Rom.10:13). Those who get the victory over the beast and satan, they have the true " Father's Name of YHWH=YAH " sealed ( Rev.7:3) in their foreheads( or in their Minds)( Rev.14:1; Rev.22:4). Also, according to ( Jer.10:25) referring to HIS( Yah's) fury( His Wrath- See Rev. of the plaques) is going to be poured out on ALL THOSE who do not call on His NAME YHWH=YAH( not titles of- lord and god), and on all the families of the earth, that do not know Him. The Book of Revelation ( Rev.9:20; Rev.12:9; Rev.13:3-4,8) says that in the end times( and we are living in them now), that all the world's inhabbitants would be worshipping satan the devil through his deception. If you do not know the TRUE FATHER YHWH'S Name, then how do you know for certain, WHOM you worship and serve ; the TRUE FATHER( YHWH=YAH-Psalms 68:4)( John 17:11), or the " false father satan the devil"( John 8:44) ? Hence ( Mal.4:6). You can clearly SEE these TWO parallels, and this is WHY I asked the question below, as compared to the words of Messiah Himself who reveals this. If you do not know the TRUE FATHER YHWH'S Name, then how do you know for certain, WHOM you worship and serve ; the TRUE FATHER( YHWH=YAH)( John 17:11), or the " false father satan"( John 8:44) ? Thank You for taking the time to read this Article, and may Yah help you to see and understand His Word. Elyah C. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This Post may or may not be of intrest to some on here, and also this article uses the true( Hebrew to English) name of the Creator. In (Isaiah 65:11) is a very interesting statement made by the Creator through Isaiah the prophet, which many people have never really investigated in depth in the original texts of scripture. The Old King James Version has this verse translated thus... ""But ye are they that forsake " the LORD",( Note YHWH==Strongs Exaustive Concordance, S.E.C.Heb.Num.3050,3068 , that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for " that troop",( Note see margin-GAD==GAWD=GOD=S.E.C. Heb. Num.1408,1409==A Babylonian Deity called Baal Gad), and that furnish the drink offering unto that number."" This Babylonian Deity called Baal Gad mentioned in (Joshua 11:17; 12:7; 13:5), was was later worshipped by the children of Israel, and the true Creator YAH( Psalms 68:4) considered it Idolatry. If you look in to the "" Webster's Unabridged Deluxe Dictionary, Second Edition, Page 746, "" GAD, 1.IN THE BIBLE, a son of Jacob. 2. A tribe of Israel descended from him. 3. The land where this tribe lived. GAD, gad, interj. A mild oath or expression of suprise, disgust, e.t.c., A EUPHEMISM FOR GOD. "" Then, when you look at the word "" Baal"( S.E.C. Heb.Num.1167,1168), then you will see that one of its definitions of meaning is ""LORD"". Now, I ask that you " get out " your Old K.J.V., and one with a "" CENTER REFERENCE COLUMN "" in the center, and LOOK very close in detail of these scriptures as these is pointed out to you, and you will be astounded at this revealed truth. First, I want to let the K.J.V. point out the meaning of "" BAALI "" in detail, and show you that people are calling YAH this title name, and to point out that He does not approve of it either, and that He is going to remove it forcefully from peoples mouths. Turn to ( Hosea 2:16 ), but please NOTICE the little small " NUMBERS" and " LETTERS " that are in the verse( as this is for the center reference column). There is a "" NUMBER 12 "" in the verse 16 of a center reference column only K.J.V.. This "" NUMBER 12 "" in the verse 16 will SHOW You where to LOOK in the CENTER REFERENCE COLUMN by its number for " THE TRUE MEANING " of that word from English to Hebrew. Look at the number 12 in the "" CENTER REFERENCE COLUMN "". But, first I'm going to write the verse of ( Hosea 2:16), so that you can compare it to the ORIGINAL MEANING OF SCRIPTURES when we are finished. K.J.V.== "" And it shall be at that day, saith "" the LORD "", that thou shalt call me Ishi ; and shalt call me no more Baali."" This word "" BAALI "" has a number "" 12 "" just beside it, and now look at the "" center reference column "" at the number "" 12 "". Number 12 center reference column says, "" THAT IS, MY LORD"". Now, when this verse with its names is correctly " transliterated " it will read thus below, and it is inescapable that the title name "" BAALI "" means "" LORD "".. "" And it shall be at that day, saith YHWH=YAH( 3050,3068, see Strongs of word 'lord'), that thou shalt call me( YHWH) my Husband( Ishi, see number 11 in center reference), and shalt call me( YHWH=YAH) NO MORE my "" LORD"".( Hosea 2:16). Now, the center reference column in the K.J.V. absolutely leaves NO DOUBT as to the true meaning of the "" title name of BAALI "", for it means "" LORD "", and that is exactly what people are calling YHWH=YAH( Psalms 68:4) today. Now look at ( Hosea 2:17) for it says, "" For I will take away the (titles) names of BAALIM( Plural==lord=baal and god=gad) OUT OF HER MOUTH, and they shall no more be remembered by their( titles) names. Now, please NOTICE the letter "" P "" in this 17th verse of Hosea 2, and in " THE CENTER REFERENCE COLUMN ", and then, in the center reference column, the letter "" P "" refers you to ( Exodus 23:13). Then, look at ( Exodus 23:13) as this is a COMMANDMENT that is being disobeyed and broken today by churchianity, for if you LOOK at the "" CENTER REFERENCE COLUMN "" and the letter "" N "" that is in ( Exodus 23:13) verse, then, look at the center reference column it refers you BACK to ( Hosea 2:17). Study this very close with the center reference column in your own K.J.V., and can you truely deny to yourself the truth about people calling the true Father YAH( Psalms 68:4) by the pagan title names of " lord "== baali " ? Read ( Exodus 23:13) as it is a Command TO NOT EVEN MENTION the title names of pagan " gods==deities " out of our mouths, but worse, people are also applying them to YHWH=YAH( Psalms 68:4), and what is even more worse, is that the translators mis-transliterated the true Creator's Name in the most popular K.J.V. scriptures. Now, will you believe your own eyes, as you read the true meaning of " BAAL=LORD" in your own K.J.V. scriptures ? If YAH( Psalms 68:4) is going to remove and take away the title names of BAALIM =LORD and GOD=GAD out of people's mouths in the future, then should we not get an early start at doing that today? When the title of "" LORD GOD"" is transliterated back into the Hebrew( notice the vowel pointing), it is the same title of "" Baal Gad= lord gawd=gad=god"", a Babylonian Deity that was condemned by YHWH.( Remember Old Eliyahu the Prophet that faced the Baal prophets?). This word " GOD==GAD==GAWD" is pronounced the same, and has been applied to the true Creator YHWH, and even in most all the English translations of scriptures too. The true Creator spoke through Jeremiah the prophet and said this would happen in the last days..."" How long shall this be in the heart( mind) of the prophets that prophesy lies?...Which think to cause my people to FORGET MY NAME( YHWH==YAH=3050,3068, see Psalms 68:4)...as their ( fore)fathers have forgotten MY NAME( YHWH==3050,3068 for (Baal Gad==LORD GOD).""( Jer.23:26-27). And we have certainly considered it IN THE LATTER DAYS as Yah has said( Jer.23:20). Have you investigated this matter fully? The children of Israel was condemned for such Idolatry, and the Apostle said, "" There are LORDS MANY and GODS MANY, and there is not in every man this knowledge.""( 1 Cor.8:5-7). YHWH commanded to NOT EVEN MENTION other nation idol deities( Exod.23:13, Joshua 23:7, Deut.5:7), and the English " god==gad" is of pagan origin( See Encyclopedieas, especially the Brittannica), even tracing back to the time of the Israelites. To apply other pagan deities to YHWH is expressly forbidden, and violates the " 1st, 2nd, and 3rd" commandments( Exod.20:2-7), as most all english translations of scriptures have done also. Even Solomon succommed to practiceing " Syncretisim", or combinning pagan deities to YHWH because of his 700 wives and 300 concubines, and he too was condemned for his Idolatry( 1 Kings 11:4-6,33). People will point out in the scriptures concerning other evil " Kings " of Israel that " did evil in the sight of YHWH ", but they just skim over or ignor the lesson concerning Solomon who committed abominations of Idolatry, and he too " DID EVIL IN THE SIGHT OF THE L-RD(YHWH= YAH=3050, 3068--)( 1 Kings 11:6--). And in every place in the scriptures that " Ashtoreth= Astarte= Easter "( The Female deity) was practiced( as it is today), so was the Idolatry worship of " Baal=Lord and Gad=God"( The male diety counterpart of Astarte), and this same thing is being practiced on a world wide scale today by modern churchianity. In every place that "" Ashtoroth==Astarte==Easter" was practiced( See Ezek.8:14-18--), so was the worship of the Babylonian deity called "" Baal Gad=Lord God""( Judges 2:11,13, 1 Kings 11:33--), and it was condemned by YHWH= YAH, and it even condemned Solomon too( 1 Kings 11:6--). When I point this out to people concerning Solomon, they are in absolute shock, because most have not fully realized this lesson concerning Solomon and the practice of Idolatry by syncretisim as this world practices syncrenized paganisim with the worship of YAH Almighty, which is still IDOLATRY in His sight. Carry this same example on down to today. Does YHWH accept " syncrenization " of the pagan " Easter=Astarte=Ashoreth " custom with Him and His true worship ? I think You and I BOTH know the answer to that question; well neither does YHWH accept its male deity counterpart of " Baal=Lord and Gad=God " applied to Him either. In every place that "" Ashtoroth==Astarte==Easter"( Female deity) was practiced, so was the worship of the Babylonian deity called "" Baal Gad=Lord God""( Astarte's Male counterpart)( Judges 2:11,13, 1 Kings 11:33), and it was condemned by YHWH= YAH. The word "god" comes from the Old German ""Gott, Guth"", which originated from worship of tarus the bull( See All Encyclopedieas especially the Brittanica of word "god"). So Solomon too did " think there was nothing wrong" with combinning pagan deities to YHWH either, but YAH certainly did think it was wrong, and this resulted in rending the Kingdom from him, and the split of the Kingdom, and the rejection of Solomon. There are many examples in scriptures where the children of Israel were taken captive by other nations for practicing " syncretisim" of pagan deities to YHWH=YAH( Psalms 68:4).. In ( Acts 14:12-15) of the pagan Jupiter, which is another example of combining pagan deities to YHWH, but to the Romans, Jupiter was the suppreme being, but he was NOT the suppreme being according to the Apostle either. It may not seem to make a difference to human beings, but it certainly does to YHWH, as His Word absolutely proves that it does matter. The Hebrew words " EL" and " Elohim" existed long BEFORE( According to scriptures) and it was originally a pure word title applied to YAH; but pagan cultures adopted it and applied it to their deities; but the word " gad=god" was used exclusively to a pagan Babylonian deity of Baal( =lord) Gad(= god), and used for worship of taurus the bull. Inspite of what commentaries, lexicons, e.t.c. say, the word " god= gad" is not a correct transliteration from the word " EL" in Hebrew. The Titles of " EL and Elohim" was originally pure Titles applied to YAH, but the word " god=gad" was and is applied to a Babylonian deity, which is condemned in ( Isaiah 65:11). In ( Jer.8:8) it was prophesied that the scribes and translators would alter the scriptures texts. And an example of that is by comparing N.T. texts as quoted from the original scriptures, with that of the O.T.texts. Example of alteration from Hebrew to Greek to English is as follows below. In the ( O.K.J.V.) of ( Matt.4:4; Luke 4:4) where Messiah said ""...but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of "" GOD( English)"", and "" Theos( Greek)"". Here, the Messiah quoted( compare) from ( Deut.8:3) Why is the word "" god"" used in ( Matt.4:4; Luke 4:4) and the word "" LORD" is used in ( Deut.8:3), but both leave out the true name of YAH( 3050,3068)?? The Greeks used their " deity" of " Theos" in translation, and the English merely used theirs of "" God"", but the original text says "" YAH "(S.E.C. 3050,3068). This is one prime example of alteration and syncretisim, and covering up the true Creator's name with pagan titles in other cultures languages. To the Greeks and Romans, their " Theos deity" was Zeus and Jupiter, not the true Creator YAH, and whenever the scriptures were translated into other cultures languages, the translators merely inserted their own " Deity" in place of the true Name of YAH( See Psalms 68:4, for the short form). This may come as an EYE OPENER and a shock to many, but the Book of Revelation says that in the last days the whole earth would be worshipping satan the devil( See Rev.12:9; Rev.13:3-4,8; Rev.13:8) through his deception. Paul certainly NEVER used the pagan title of " theos", because Paul admitted that he observed the entirety of the law( Acts 24:14), and that would include ( Exod.20:2-7; Exod.23:13; Deut.5:7;Joshua 23:7). Also, Paul was against their " pagan theos of Jupiter" in ( Acts 14:11-15). But, no matter how much proof from scriptures that is given to people, and even examples such as Solomon that practiced " syncretisim", which was, and still is prohibitted and condemned by YHWH, people will still do what they see right in their own eyes( Remember the Proverb?). I do believe that there are honest people out there, and those who are truely TRUTH SEEKERS will eventually see this truth. Otherwise, how could satan the devil deceive the whole world and its inhabitants into worshipping him in THE END TIMES( Rev.9:20;Rev.12:9; Rev.13:3-4, --8) ? Think about it, and pray about it. Thank you for taking the time to read and consider this article
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Article concerning the word " GOD " in http://88.1911encyclopedia.org/G/GO/GOD.htm and scroll down to read.
The New English Dictionary points cut that whereas the old Teutonic type of the word is neuter, corresponding to the Latin numen, in the Christian applications it becomes masculine, and that even where the earlier neuter form is still kept, as in Gothic and Old Norwegian, the construction is masculine. Popular etymology has connected the word with good ; this is exemplified by the corruption of God be with you into good-bye. God is a word common to all Teutonic languages. In Gothic it is Guth; Dutch has the same form as English; Danish and Swedish have Gud, German Gott. According to the New English Dictionary, the original may be found in two Aryan roots, both of the form gheu, one of which means to invoke, the other to pour (ci. Gr. x~av); the last is used of sacrificial offerings. The word would thus mean the object either of religious invocation or of religious worship by sacrifice. It has been also suggested that the word might mean a molten image from the sense of pour. End of Article from the Britannica. Notice this word " GOD" comes from the " TEUTONIC"( ie- Germans=ie= Asryians==Aryan)that took the Northern 10 tribes of Isaelites captive in the scriptures. Look up these Hebrew word Numbers in Strongs Hebrew Dictionary of ""1409=Gad=Gawd=God, 1464==Guwd. You can see from the Article that the "" Danish and Swedish form have "" GUD "" which you can see in Hebrew Number 1464=GUwD, and both words are related to Hebrew Number 1413 of "" CUT SELVES" as in the time that the "" Baal Prophets "" in Old Eliyahu the Prophets time when they CUT THEMSELVES by the worship of "" BAAL GAD== LORD GAWD=GOD "". Also notice this in the Article...."""The word god, on the conversion of the Teutonic races to Christianity, was adopted as the name of the one Supreme Being, the Creator of the universe, and of the Persons of the Trinity.""Unquote Also notice this in the Article...."""According to the New English Dictionary, the original may be found in two Aryan roots, both of the form gheu, one of which means to invoke, the other to pour (ci. Gr. x~av); the last is used of sacrificial offerings. The word would thus mean the object either of religious invocation or of religious worship by sacrifice. It has been also suggested that the word might mean a molten image from the sense of pour."" Unquote This fits with ( Rev.13:15; Rev.17 and 18) of an imaginary idol image, which is "" The Babylonian Deity ( Isa.65:11) called BAAL GAWD, and people today have the "" NAME OF GAWD=GOD THE BEAST""( Rev.13:17) in THEIR FOREHEADS OR MINDS and are CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE BEAST which is BAAL=LORD GAWD=GOD, and this title name is even on the U.S.A s Money for fortune. Then, on the other hand, there are the true people of YHWH=Yah that "" ARE SEALED WITH THE FATHER'S NAME OF YHWH=YAH( Exod.15:2;Psalms 68:4)WEH ** IN THEIR FOREHEADS( Rev.7:1-9; Rev.14:1; Rev.22:3-4)**, and that CALL ON THE NAME OF YHWH=YAH for salvation( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Acts 4:10-12; Rom.10:13), the same as ELIYAHU THE OLD PROPHET DID in ( 1 Kings 18:24). |
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