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Yahwehwitnesses Posts: 2247 |
posted 10-23-2003 06:37 PM
  
Shalom Lavi, I agree the tablets given to Moshe by YHWH, would have likely been created with old Hebrew. However that does not prove that YHWH spoke Hebrew to Adam, or that Adam ever spoke Hebrew, but maybe he did. If he did, I don't think it's the exact Hebrew that people use today. I'm sure that YHWH understands all languages, and that he can communicate to anybody and anything as he desires. According to the scriptures, if we have enough faith, then we can tell a tree what to do, and it will obey us! (Luke 17:6) But trees don't have and ears, and they don't know English. They don't recognize our own voice, however if our voice contains the power of YHWH within it, then they will understand and obey his spirit that dwells within us. If many people with their mustard seed sized faith gather together in his name [the Word OF YHWH], then I beleive they could do anything if it's also in agreement with YHWH. When they speak in his name, it will be done, because their is commanding spiritual power/authority within. We are not dealing with flesh and blood things here, or human spoken languages. We are dealing with spiritual things, principalities, and powers of both good and evil. YHWH's name is the ultimate power and authority above all things. I believe that all his children of any language will know his voice when he speaks, and they will also understand what he is saying to them. Even the retarded, senile, John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Yahshua spoke Aramaic, but the name/power of YHWH was within him, and within his voice. Isaiah 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak; behold, it is I. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me. The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwells in me, he does the works. YHWH's voice can speak to us, through us, and within us when we are wide awake or resting. Most everbody has experienced spiritual comminications. We speak, hear and see in our dreams, yet our physical ears, lips and eyes had no part in those comminications when we are dreaming. I sometimes wonder if we are ever spiritually testing in our dreams to resist evil? Hebrew today isn't exactly the same pure language as it was way back then, as there are many new and handed down mixed or deluted things applied within the languages of today. I'm kind of guessing that there might not be any pure language spoken on earth today. Yahweh hears our voices, but he knows our hearts! Col 3:16 Let the word of Messiah dwell in you richly; in all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts unto Yahweh. Mabye the languages first started being confused after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, and/or for sure after the seperation of the first Babylon. I beleive there is a universal language of YHWH that everything knows inside. After we are lived away into heaven, that might be the pure language that YHWH will restore unto all of us. Zeph: 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith YHWH, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of YHWH, to serve him with one consent. Shalom in Yahweh, Brother Yohanan |
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sabian Posts: 641 |
posted 10-24-2003 06:46 PM
Great insight is found by Studying scripture And I agree that without the Help of YHWH we could read a perfect version of scripture and still not Understand. But I have to say if you Only look at the english versions, And not apply any hebrew. You will drink a whole lot of Milk. Most people I know that are really into searching are searching the Hebrew for better understanding. I believe there is a reason for that. YHWH's hand must be guiding us in that search and that search has brought me much Fruit. |
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kongavnorge Posts: 363 |
posted 10-24-2003 08:56 PM
With regard to whatever language was spoken by Abraham and even further back what was/were the antedeluvian language or languages spoken by even Adam himself, the best bet goes back to what is know as Ugaritic or the Ras Shamra dialect. I have excellent books by William Foxwell Albright on the matter of Textual Criticism of the Tenakh (Old Testament) Both Hebrew and Arabic seem to have borrowed elements from Ugaritic. Some portions of the Tenakh are said to be better understood from a knowledge of Ugaritic. Dr. Albright was said to have been quite expert in this regard. |
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Lavi_Chagyah Posts: 298 |
posted 10-24-2003 08:58 PM
Shalom Yohanan
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His third part I find most interesting because it reads so very much like ancient texts. Is it accurate ?? I don't know , but it sure helped me understand biblical Hebrew better !! Shalom !~
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Lavi_Chagyah Posts: 298 |
posted 10-24-2003 09:00 PM
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Yehudiyah Posts: 103 |
posted 10-25-2003 10:55 PM
Just by the fact that Adam gave Eve two names, "ishah" (woman) and Chavah (mother of all life) - each only making sense in Hebrew - and the name Adam is from the Hebrew "adamah" (earth), indicates that everyone from the time of Adam spoke Hebrew until the event of the Tower of Bavel. Then in Tzefanyah 3:8 all the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the 5 soffit are contained and the Amightly specifically stating that He would restore to the people a 'pure language,' indicating Hebrew is 'that' pure langauge, the Lashon HaKodesh (The Holy Tongue). [i]8 But wait for Me - says YKVK - until the day that I rise to plunder; when I pass judgment to gather the nations, to assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them My indignation, all My fierce anger; for all the earth will be consumed by the fire of My jealousy. 9 For then I will turn the peoples to a pure language, that they may all call upon the Name of YKVK, to serve Him with one consent. People will serve only the Almighty, worship Him in the holy tongue - Hebrew. They will come "to serve Him with one consent" - with a single-minded conviction and with one understanding. All peoples on earth will will accept a single philosophy and one way of serving the Almighty. All peoples will then be in awe before the Glory of the Almighty; they will be ashamed of having served idols, and so the names, as well as all remembrance, of idolatries will disappear from their speech. Therefore we have the following prayer in the liturgy of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur "May they all become one confederation and act in accordance with Your will with an undivided heart."
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ana_yncaphil Posts: 395 |
posted 10-29-2003 05:09 AM
The fear of Yahweh is the beginning of wisdom. Do you believe that He can reveal His Characteristics, Plans, to anyone who ask for Truth sake? I for one did not ask for anything else in this world, what I asked from Him is to let me understand His Words and help me to obey to His Will, that is all. He answered me that His Name is just found in my father's family name. I donot need to look for any proofs down the ocean, above the heavens, it is just right in my father's family name and to know Him is to OBEY HIM.As simple as that, let me live this life in accordance with His will and I will fear NO evil in the days of my life. My great example is His Son Yahshua, that was all, the pattern of all great peoples of the Scripture. To me the True freedom is to be imprisoned in Yahshua's words of life.There's nothing more valuable than be an ordinary person to this world but precious to Yahweh's sight, that is FREEDOM. Thanks for sharing heavenly knowledge.
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