posted 10-31-1999 03:32 AM           

Did you know that the Babylonians called the YAHUWDIM ---
YAHUW's(that's YAHoo's) and guess what it was meant as a SLAM also.
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Shalom wild Bill
Don't get your blood pressure up!

The Aramic written is that way
because of the ineffability doctrine.
(Don't say the name)

It ain't "YE",or "YEH",
it's "YAH"(YH) and even more crrectly "YAHUW"(YHW),
as in YAHUWSHUA which means SALVATION of YHW (YAHUW).

Why are ya'll so bent on calling our Hebrew savior by
either Greek,Latin or Aramic names based on the ineffability
doctrine?

posted 10-31-1999 07:30 AM         

I can read what's written in the Hebrew script. I'm not conjecturing why the names are what they are. I believe Hebrew/Aramaic speaking people of 2000 years ago knew how their language worked. Whether the longer form of the name was shortened to "Yeshua" because of the ineffability doctrine is something that we don't know. What we do know is, it is the word at some places in the Tanakh and that's the word that was transliterated into Greek (LXX) and there are no recorded words of HaMashiakh that he disapproved. As I indicated before, "Yeshua" was a common name around the 1st century.

posted 11-01-1999 06:19 AM           

Your going to have to which that blood pressure, Bill!

If it gets to high up there it's bad for you.

No one is disputing with you,
the fact the name YESHUA is found
in the Hebrew or Aramic text or
that this word was used as a common name.

This WORD was CONJECTURED by RABBI's due
to the INEFFABILITY DOCTRINE as a PERSONAL NAME in order
to HIDE,CONCEAL,etc the SACRED NAME.

This is NO secret!

You can see this in almost everything these KABALAHIST touch.

It's OK for them to know the name,but not you and me,
because were DIRT to them.

Or are you not fimalar with word/names such as ADONIA and Ha SHEM,etc ?

The ineffability DOCTRINE is CONJECTURING.

Not the fact of it's EXSITENCE.

YESHUA is a hand me down word/name and
it's real root is the WORD is YASHA!

As I stated before MY Yasha is YAHUWSHUA and this NAME has a clear and definite meaning

SALVATION of/He is YHW.

posted 11-07-1999 02:10 AM           

THIS OLD ENGLISH;
http://www.engl.virginia.edu/OE/courses/handouts/oealpha.html

posted 11-07-1999 02:16 AM            

Direct translation from the Hebrew by me friend at the Temple Mount who is the Cyber-Architect for the Temple Mount Project and who is the Dean of the Academy of Jerusalem!

Here it is: YeHshua (YeHshWH) Ha Mashiah

posted 11-10-1999 12:00 AM         

Just wanted to point out that yeshua is spelt yod-shin-waw-ayin. That would be in English yeshua (YeSHuWA), not YeHshWH, which seems to try to implicate the tetragrammaton. But if you want to see the tri-grammaton Yahu (YHW), yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin (YaHuWSHuA) or yod-heh-waw-shin-waw-ayin (YaHuWSHuWA) is were to look. Yahushua (YHWSHA/YHWSHWA), He is the Yeshua (YSHWA)of Yahuweh (YHWH)!!

posted 11-12-1999 10:19 PM            

Ehzar-na' kh'never chalatzekhah eh'sha'lkha v'hodieh'ni.

Zaqunraahyahuw

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posted 11-12-1999 11:06 PM            

I agree to disagree with you on this topic, continuous posts on this will get us no where fast.

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The favor of the Master Yahushua HaMoshiach, and the love of Yahuweh, and the fellowship of the Ruach HaKodesh, be with all of you. Amein.

posted 11-12-1999 11:24 PM         

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Do I think that is coincidental? NO! I think my post displayed logical, competent scholarship.
Do you have any scholarship of your own to offer in opposition of my post? Or are we just supposed to overwhelmed by your superior knowledge?
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Whoa buddy....is that a snide remark? Do you have something against me perhaps?

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I will offer you a teensy caveat, for whatever its worth. I believe JustBill is Jewish. You can do what you like, but if it were me, I would make absolutely sure that I had other competent resources beside Strong's and that all my ducks were in a-one order before I presumed to lecture him on the Hebrew language.
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Wow bro, try some decaff. Who is JustBill, did I make a reply to him? You must assume that I'm someone who gets my Hebrew understanding from Strong's, struggling to make sentences from root words. I can assure you that is not the case. We know nothing about each other, so to assume my intellectual level and understanding of Hebrew would be foolish on your part.

Ehzar-na' kh'never chalatzekhah eh'sha'lkha v'hodieh'ni.

.....are you the only one who knows Hebrew, obviously not. You must want everyone to be overwhelmed by your knowledge of the Hebrew language, I love ya man!!!

posted 11-12-1999 11:43 PM            

     If the heat in the kitchen starts to bother you, remember you challenged my researched and documented post with the word "coincidence"! So I might ask you the question. Do you have some kind of problem with me, since you have singled out my posts for particular attention?

Zaqunraahyahuw

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posted 11-12-1999 11:52 PM         

Mattithyahu 23
23 "Oy to you, Soferim and P'rushim, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier [matters] of the Torah: right-rulings and compassion and emunah. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

posted 11-13-1999 12:12 AM         

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If the heat in the kitchen starts to bother you, remember you challenged my researched and documented post with the word "coincidence"! So I might ask you the question. Do you have some kind of problem with me, since you have singled out my posts for particular attention?
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Now that you mention it, it is a little hot in here. And since NO LIGHT IS CREATED IN HEAT, I decided to chill. No problem with you bro, just want to see where you standed on some issues that's all. Nothing personal....

...As Dawid said in Tehillim 133:1

Hinei ma-towb uma'naim
Shebet achim gam yachad!

posted 11-14-1999 07:34 AM           

OS your tooo much!

quote;
I think my post displayed logical, competent scholarship.
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You really are a legend in your own mind aren't you may christianus friend?!

Your jesuitcal equivations and prevarications of which you call
"competant scholarship" truly amaze me.

I have to admit I haven't seen the likes of
someone like you in a long time.

And to think the Catholic church has 1000's just like you in
their priesthood spread around the world.

Now that's a frightening thought!