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Derek Posts: 11 |
Find out what century did the modern Hebrew language begin and you will see that Yahshua and Yahushua comes from the original Hebrew Yeshuwa therefore researching further you will be able to identify that Yeshuwa came from another original Hebrew sound. Therefore if Jesus,Yahshua and Yahushua means the same as Yeshuwa then I can make up modern names to call the Saviour. If the name Yahshua and Yahushua is not the sound that most people believe Mashiyach is called in the new modern language the would'nt this be similar to accepting a second rate generic name like JESUS!?#@&* IP: Logged |
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John Posts: 93 |
YAHWSHUA. {Yod, Hey, Vav, Shin, Ayin.} There's a story behind every name as Johnson and Carlson arose from being the sons of John and Carl. A name truly good which goes out from His virtuous character, particular name that spontaneous emanate genuine aroma to the soul of excellence. Nevertheless, there those spiritually dying who jealousy abhor such a virtuous a name because such a name is not only remembered on earth but also is written in heaven. Looking from the vantage point of the truth, we can see the original name of the Yahwdi that Epistles called Messiah, along with it intellectually reflecting why it was deceitfully taught as Jesus for a thousand years by the antinomian church. All honest scholars admit that Yahwshua never even heard it, nor anyone ever call Him “Jesus” for it wasn’t even invented until around 1530 CE. If they don’t hate His name, then why do they change such noble name for a lie? Are antinomians stone-blind of the truth or have they been all duped? Equipped with a litter common sense, following the guidelines given to us by the scriptural LAWGIVER. Taking a closer look at the Epistles, it behooves anyone to examine everything to clearly identify if it’s within the nucleus or if it’s not part, of YAHWEH’S scripture faith perimeters. (1 John 4: 1-2,6) “Do not believe every spirit but test the spirits, whether they are from YAHWEH. For many false prophets have gone forth into the world. [2] By this know the Spirit of YAHWEH.. [6] We are of YAHWEH; the one knowing YAHWEH hears us. Whoever is not of YAHWEH goes not hear us. For we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.” Armed with a number of historical materials and research which show; the ROOT OF THE NAME Yahwshua, derives from the son of Nun of the tribe of Ephraim and successor to Moses, Yahwshua [Joshua] led them in to the land of Israel (Numbers 27:15-19). Yahwshua has a great deal to do with the metonymy of WHO and what he was chosen to characterize, as a type of Messiah who lead the people; "LEAD OUT" [out of the world of heathen sin], "BRING IN" [in to YAHWEH’S Yahadowt]. (Numbers. 13: 16) Moses transformed the name Hwshua by adding the single letter "YUD," developing his name from Strong’s # 1954 Hwshua, meaning splendid salvation, to Yahwshua, meaning YAHWEH’S splendid salvation. The accent in the word Yahwshua is on both syllables, YAHW SHUA. The book of Hoseae Strong’s # 1954 {Hoshua} in the Hebrew scripture, is the first of a set of books called the TRAI ASAR [The Twelve], which in Hebrew is "HWSHUA" {Hoshua}. There where numerous other persons in the Tanak by the Hebrew name “YAHWSHUA,” there is a list of nine persons and one city by the name of Strong’s # 3091 Yahwshua in the Tanak. Yet, there is no one in the scripture or Epistles ever name by the pronunciation Jesus, in fact there was no “J” letter. The word "Jesus" is a FIVE LETTER “spirit of error” word that has NO relationship to the original name. Western Europeans Tower of Bible trans-LIE-ated the Greek SIX LETTER [Iota, Heta, Sigma, Omicron, Ypsilon, final Sigma.] transliteration Strong’s number 2424 "Ihsoys, ” pronounce Yahwshua. Even Strong’s admits that “Jesus" is substantiality an alien name, it’s in fact really Yahwshua. Antinomian bible trans-LIAR-ators replace His real name with a hoodwinked demon known as Iesus, for the more heathens have mutilated the original scripture forms, the more soul have being murder. Jesus is not from the (Greek Strong’s number 2424, “Iesous”) nevertheless lying antinomians pretend to be the original Hebrew name {"Y a H W SH u AY.”} Yahwshua would be closer to the way His true name was pronounced. In (Acts 7:45 & Hebrews 4:8) Jesus and Joshua can be seen that they are demonstration to be the same name, in any interlinear Bible or within any book using Strong's reference (Greek number 2424, “Iesous”.) In actuality, there where also numerous persons in the scripture by the name {Elohi is our salvation, Aleph, Lamedh, Yod, Shin, Ayin.} Strong # 474, 475 and # 477. As a matter of certainty Strong's # 2424, is a legitimate point to show the Theocrasia [paganizing] of the bible was not a theological mistake, but in fact it is distinctly evident that the word Jesus is a heathendom spirit of error fraud and the device of satanic deceivers. (1 Thessalonians 2: 10- 12) “All deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be SAVED. [11] And because of this YAHWEH will send to them a working of error, for them to believe the lie. [12] That all may be judged those not believing the truth, but who have delighted in unrighteousness.” In fact those highly educated antinomian theologians know that the Epistle Messiah is Strong's # 2424, and pronounce Yahwshua. Those that don’t know that it’s wrong can be excuse as ignorantly parroting a error but those that know the truth and keep duplicating a lie are liars. It’s not an accidental typo err but a legitimate practice of Antinomians liars to deceive by sustain it as Jesus, even when they know it’s a lie that murder souls. An important prophetic aspect of His name is in (Proverbs 30: 4,6,8.) "Who has made all the ends of the earth to rise? What is HIS name and what is HIS Son's name? Surely you know... [6] Do not add to HIS words, that HE not reproves you, and you be found a liar. [8] Remove lying WORD [NAME] far from me." The issue is that YAHWEH speaks to us of HIS name, and‚ HIS Son's name‚ shall not be trivialized with a replacement lying name. (Gal. 1:8) "But even if we or for that matter, an angel from heaven! Were to preach any other evangel [Good News] unto you, let him be cursed forever!” Yahwshua is the evangel [Good News] of the Epistles, as this verse says; cursed is the antinomian lying preacher who call on any another word in this case name. Then why have antinomian Christian scholars permitted a fraudulent name to pass so long as genuine, keeping the layman ignorant of Yahwshua name substitute it with erroneous Jesus that is also a Epistle cursed? Antinomians may say: it doesn’t matter, then the scripture and the Epistles word don’t matter, neither! Why read it at all? If it doesn’t matter then antinomians can admit too that it must be a satanic lie? For it would appear in any word research to be universal knowledge that christian scholars are deliberately contorting to a distortion the antinomian new testament messiah’s name to split christianity from anything that scriptural truth and emanating from YAHWEH. The first and worst of all self frauds is to deceit one's self of the truth, that being in denial of the reality, then all spiritual error and wrongs presumptions are easily side step. Even when (Lev. 18:21) instruct us "Nor shalt you pollute [Ghah-LaL] the name of your Elohim, I AM YAHWEH." Ghah-LaL means to desolate, translated RUIN in (Eze. 20:13,16,21,24 / 22:8) "They ruin [Ghah-LaL] MY Sabbath." or to bring to distortion. Only in the original can man see the True scripture Name of the YAH and Yahwshua are fundamentally rooted in the same name, YAHWSHUA means in its fullness "YAHWEH'S splendid Salvation." A Note, Yahwshua is spelled {Strong’s number 3091, “Yahwshua”)Yod, Hey, Vav, Shin, Ayin.} or on rare occasions as {Yod, Hey, Vav, Shin, Vav, Ayin.} In the book of Ezra and Nehemiah, the high priest is name Y’shua {Yod, Shin, Ayin.} the son of Y’zadak, whereas in contemporary books of Haggai and ZacharYah, the same high priest is name Yahwshua {Yod, Hey, Vav, Shin, Ayin.} the son of Yahwzadak {Yod, Hey, Vav, tsadhe, daleth, qoph.} Why this was brought about, it can only be concluded that in the high priest failure to implore YAHWEH to remove the people’s emotional passion for idolatry. Just as with Abram the enlargement of his name into ‘Abraham’ was an expression of divine approval, so did this diminution of Yahwshua into Y’shua express divine disapproval. That is the reason why the talmud and chritian literature altered the spelling of the name to Y’Shua, Y’Shu, or Yesu and yearning accept mendacious Gentile name Jesus. Returning to the Hebrew form of the records enhance our understanding of what is the true meaning of His Yahadowtyot name. The value of restoring or returning back to the original Yahadowtyot language and context can be seen more clearly by taking the illustration "YAHWSHUA" designed by the hand of the Heavenly Father. Instead of Jesus, which is a corrupting form of the pagan deity in order to remove the spiritual Yahadowt significant of His name and which has no relationship what-so-ever to the true name. In (Acts 4:12) one reads, "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is *NO OTHER NAME* under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." This verse pertain to the condition that only by ONE sole Name alone, those who wish salvation can be bounded to this NAME ONLY. Whereby, If the existence of truly receive salvation is only in ONE single NAME? There is only ONE Yahwdi seed, as there is only ONE scripture covenant of promise and the true Children of Abraham hear than obey by faith the word of the ONE name, WHO is YAHWEH. Life offers many chooses but according to this verse your eternal salvation is offers only one name and with a clear understanding it’s not by spirit of error “Jesus.” (1Thessalonians 5: 21) “Test all things, hold fast to the good.” Whereby if the (Act 4:12) verse in the Epistles in fact factual, the existence of acquiring your spiritual salvation is only in ONE Name? So you better be absolutely sure of HIS name for your and those who you love eternal life depends on this single spiritual awareness. (1 Thessalonians 2: 10) “All deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be SAVED.” The scripture and Epistle way said it is, when you die you will answer to you CREATOR for your actions or inaction’s. You will not answer then to any religious order, nor sect, neither human being, you will answer in fact sole to YAHWEH. YAHWEH. (Matthew 28:19) “Immerse them in the NAME [Singular] of the Father, the Son and the YAH Ruach Kodesh.” Exclusively those who know the sacred names could realize the majestic splendor of what is being said in this verse, by YAHWEH’S name both Yahadowt and Yahwshua are the same name. After all if you don’t know who HE really is, neither would you know HIS true name how then can you enter into a redeemable relationship with HIM. “Jesus” since “J” wasn’t even invented prior to 1600 century, so one may ask the fools that despises scriptural wisdom, how could anyone be “saved” in the name “Jesus” before it was invented? There is a fly in the antinomian logic if they believe (Act 4:12) to be truth and also receive salvation under a replacement name Jesus, they are wrong, dead wrong, spiritually DEAD wrong. It is known that the substitution of demonic names as Allah or Iesus was the common practice of heathen scholars to signify Semiramis or Zeus is salvation instead of YAHWEH. (1 Thessalonians 2: 11- 12) “And because of this YAHWEH will send to them a working of error, for them to believe the lie. [12] That all may be judged those not believing the truth, but who have delighted in unrighteousness.” This heathen names associated with spiritual redemption is the equivalent to satan is salvation. (Michah 4:5) "For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, however we will walk in the name of YAHWEH our Elohim FOREVER and ever." Thereby, only the people that call themselves "YAHWDI" are calling themselves by the name of "YAHWEH" and "Yahwshua"; A Yahwdi is nothing more than a sinful man who has put himself to YAH'S school for the honest purpose to journey in truth. The Truth is a Journey that most of mankind fail to take because they only major in weak things. It takes audacity to conduit to a courageous soul just in choosing this journey. To graduate we enter with YAHWEH upon high road in the more perilous plans, after having had the shame of failing by ourselves in the most travel minor ones. Note in scripture Hebrew the word Gentile means “soulless cadaver” and Yahwdi means “YAHWEH Praiser,” it’s not racial classification but a spiritual identification. Specifically consider that the word “Name” in Matthew 28, verse 19 is singular, as it should be understood as singular name and not plural as it is in the antinomian religions a number of different names. It's not difficult to realize that the alternative of a Gentile salvation by a hoodwinked hoax name of Jesus or by any other names are illicit lie in light of (Acts 4:12) and is simply another replacement theology. In like manner (1 John 4: 1) behooves us to “test the spirit” of the name Jesus, and if Jesus is true then (Matthew 28:19 or Acts 4:12) can’t be and all the scripture is wrong. Since the truth it's easy as pie, (Matthew 28:19 or Acts 4:12) is in perfect harmony with YAHWEH’S scripture perimeters then the name Jesus is part of the liars guile lying deception. Heathen scholars wanted a antinomian pagan Christ sheathed in a credible scripture, “SUS” definitely refers to Zeus as it does in many Greek names such as TarSUS, PegaSUS, DionySUS and ParnasSUS. The name “Jesus” means Iesous or HailZeus, the son of Zeus. (Psalm 96: 5) “All the gods of the Gentiles {GOYM. gimel, vav, yod, mem.} are idols.” Those that believe the scripture would fine it’s understanding clear that all Gentiles are antinomian and all antinomians are Goyot Gentiles devoid of the real scriptural religion. Psalm 96 clearly state that ALL Gentile [Goy] religions are Heathen [Goyot.] (Isaiah 45: 20) “The Goyim [Gentiles] in ignorance carry idols of wood, they pray to a god that connot give salvation. After all if those (Jeremiah 28:15) “GOYM [Gentiles] TRUST IN LIES” trusting in the liar lie that their Christ name is Jesus, in total ignorance Goym illustrating they don’t really know who is HE. In classical Jeroboam antinomian scam they did not seek YAHWEH according to HIS SCRIPTURAL, neither the genuine scripture (Isaiah 45: 19) truth. Neither are Gentile entering into a relationship with the genuine covenanted articles as long as their whole religious faith in founded on Goyot dogmatic lies and demonic decoy deception, or is lead by some one who call himself a Gentile. (1 John 4: 3) “And every spirit, which does not confess that Yahwshua Ha Messiah has come in the flesh, is not from Eloah. And this is the antichrist.” The antinomian supposition of calling to Jesus, Hesus or to any other gentiles’ names is a twisted deception to lead the ignorant to the old heathendom demon name of Iesous, Jesus or any other variants. Then, it can not be the Hebrew scriptural name of YAH, retained without any alteration. Subsequently, that antinomian stipulation contradicts the scripture and (Acts 4:12). Discover for yourself one of the heathendom beguiles fraud fabricate to murder your soul. Yahwshua is the Messiah from three Jewish perspectives. First, He is the only individual ever to fulfill all of the messianic prophecies relating to the Messiah genealogical Ben-Yosef [known as the "suffering servant" role], including being the son of Yosef. That is absolutely necessary. Second, the Roman destruction of all public records, including the careful documentation of the Davidic genealogies. Third, the Moslem created an unclean cemetery on the East Gate, to halt a future Yahwdi messiah and Bethlehem was ceded to the Arabs. Yahwshua is the only possible candidate there can ever be. But Yahwshua has not fulfilled all the requirements of Messiah. No covenanted Kohen can say that, since he may not marry the woman he desires, nor for the life he live, he will not marry at all. Because just as he is ordained by YAHWEH'S doctrine to not to marry a certain type of woman, for He before been ordained as Priest of Israel is commanded by YAHWEH to marry by HIS covenant. Yahwshua was called the High Kohen of Israel, then He had to be marry because of the Priestly precept (Lev. 21:13) "He shall take a wife in her virginity." Perhaps also had children but because of the controversy and ordeal of his ministry chose to sustain them secretly concealed from public notice. Shalom Aleichem John IP: Logged |
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Mesobaite Posts: 160 |
John, I agree with you on the name of the messiah. I also agree with you on the name of Jesus. Non-believers need to understand that Jesus is not just an 'English' transliteration of the messiahs name. Jesus is an actual spiritual entity - a demonic religious spirit! Secondly, I would love to hear a 'christians' response to your point that since the name Jesus did not exist before the 1600s then whose name was the original saints saved and baptised in? IP: Logged |
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Harvey Posts: 6 |
Shalom means peace last I checked. Gentlemen, it got HOT in here. Derek, you appear to desire to defend "JESUS" with your explaination on this and other posts. Face it Derek, "JESUS" is just a poor transliteration from the Latin, IESU... which might, I said might have been a decent transliteration into the Latin from Biblical Hebrew. At any rate that is the primary name translated into the majority of Bibles world wide. "IESU" Latin. By the way the "I" in Latin is the English "Y" sound. My saviour was born of a virgin with a HEBREW NAME which many of the prophets had the same first three Hebrew letters, which constituted the FULL four letters of the FATHER'S NAME. I agree with JOHN as to the Hebrew and full name transliterated into English as, "YaHWe-shua". I've added the "e" JOHN. So it's true that the son's name contains the father's name JOHN 5:43. Just as my son took my name which I got from my father and back to my grandfather. So men name their sons after them just as YaHWeH did HIS son, YaHWe-shua. HISTORY, the sacred name movement realized that the common English bibles translated the Hebrew #3091 into "J"oshua. Once they realized the "J" was an 18th century invention copying the 10th letter placement of Hebrew "Y" they phonetically realized the shortened form was: YaHshua Just as Psa.68:4 YaH is the shortened form of YaHWeH (first put in the English Emphasized Bible by Joseph Rotherham in 1902). Exo.3:14 does contain the yod Hay which in FRENCH is one letter off from "JESUS" meaning "I AM". So please sacred name friends, I caution you in blaspheming the poor translation of JESUS which I can't find in print until 1799. Before than it was always iesus ("S" on the end was added because of Greek syntax) to the pure latin form IESU. Personally I believe the Roman Catholic Church is the whore of revelation and has been since 300 AD when the Catholics deleted the hebrew names from the N.T. That's why LATIN is the sacred language of the R.C.C. Now I married a Catholic and my die hard Catholic in-laws have been good to us, even though they know we think they are as spiritually lost as a blind man in a snow storm. There's a verse about honoring parents and that even includes LOST ONES. It's been REAL HARD for 32 years, but in the natural I /we do our best to please them. Spiritually, that's another matter and a closed subject by normal mutual consent. The ZEUS / JESUS connection is not set in stone and there are many Christians which live their life to please the one that died on a tree, was buried, resurrected on the THIRD day, and is the soon coming KING. I have research to PROVE, but can not PROVE that JESUS means ZEUS, but I can PROVE in FRENCH that just one more letter makes JESUS, I AM. Yup, JESUS in FRENCH means, "I AM". "I AM" is Greek thought and I don't like that. Tyndale was the first and A.B. Traina first complete "Holy Name Bible 1963" stated that Exo.3:14 "I will be what I will be" is the correct Hebrew thought not I am that I am. But what do you expect from a bunch of THEO-greek god-alogians which believe that the entire N.T. was originally in GREEK? So, YaHWeH will judge us as we judge others. Therefore let's be careful in making real strong statements unless we are willing to pay the price if we happen to be wrong. Derek, I think you are pulling at straws to justify the name JESUS. Personally I believe it came to be over time from Latin "IESU" then the "S" Greek syntax was added, "IESUS"; then the Jesuits really got busy and invented a new 10th letter in English to correspond with the 10th letter in Hebrew and presto we got "JESUS" in 1799 AD. NO doubt the FRENCH language also had an influence. From Latin came the six romance languages (FRENCH being one of them) then English the most adulterated of them all. But the name YaHWeH was not a major concern at the time so no one noticed. Yet all the JESUS PEOPLE and reference books ADMIT the origin is #3091, NOT your word Derek. See you are going backward straight in Hebrew to get a better argument, but that's all it is, an argument. Because there is too much history, too much biblical reference material that all ties it to #3091. Yet, shall we think that all the British and American Missionaries for centuries that used IESUS are LOST? The old hymns, the faith, the history... YaHWeH has always had a people and HE doesn't need the correct pronouciation, HE NEEDS THE CORRECT HEART ATTITUDES. Wycliffe's first English translation 1382 AD used, ihesus for the saviour's name. Now you Hebrew scholars what is IH? YaH.
Close to what I use: YaHWe-shua. But if you silence the middle Hebrew letter you actually have: YaHshua which is what the original sacred name movement staked their claim on. And did not copyright HIS glorious name. Hallelu-YaH. OK, I'm not paranoid so here is my Email if you want to talk with me. modesty@lakeozark.net IN MESSIAH (YaHWeH YaHWe-shua Messiah) 1 Cor.1:8 Harv IP: Logged |
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Harvey Posts: 6 |
Shalom again. The question was "when" was YaHshua name's started? It was started before the foundation of the world, as the lamb was slained before the foundation of the world. Then in Scripture, MOSES first penned it on Hosea the son of Nun. and It's been the answer ever since to Proverbs 30:4 "and what is his son's name, if thou can'st tell". So Derek the answer is FOR EVER. Shalom, Harv P.S. As long as HIS name's been YaHWeH. IP: Logged |
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