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Baqashemet

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posted 08-06-2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baqashemet   Click Here to Email Baqashemet     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
HOLY

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The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios, together with their derivatives, have been translated with one of three words, or derivatives, in our older English versions, namely: holy, hallowed, or sanctified. Another word is also used in modern versions, and generally in ecclesiastical literature, namely: sacred. Most of us have the idea that this word has the meaning of piety, or being pious, or to be devout. However, this conception is refuted when we read in Isa. 66:17 of the idolatrous people "who sanctify (qadash) themselves and purify themselves, to go to the gardens after an idol in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse ...." This refutation of the incorrect idea that "holy" means "to be pious", is further confirmed by the shocking discovery that one of the Hebrew words for a harlot (whore) is qedeshah, a derivative of qadash! Likewise, a male prostitute (or sodomite) is called a qadesh in Hebrew. This then causes us to seek for the real meaning of the word qodesh (its verb being qadash) and its Greek equivalent hagios. The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, vol. 2, p. 817, summarises what most authorities say about qodesh and hagios, ". . . the meaning of 'separation' is paramount ... the more elemental meaning seems to lie with 'separation'." The same dictionary, in vol. 4, p.210, says, "The basic sense of the Hebrew root qadash, as of its Greek equivalent in the Bible—hagios, seems to be 'separateness'." Likewise, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words repeatedly emphasises the fact of the fundamental meaning of the word to be: "separation" (see under "holiness" and "sanctification"). With the discovery of the true meaning of this word, namely, separate and separation, we can now understand why qodesh is used in a positive sense, a good sense, and that it can equally be used in a negative and evil sense. Someone is, or something is separated unto Yahweh, or he/it is separated unto evil. Thus, the word qodesh applies to both.
Why then, if the Hebrew word qodesh as well as the Greek hagios both mean "separation", why has the word "holy" been used instead? Is it possible that the father of all lies, the Great Deceiver, had cunningly proceeded with his master plan of bringing idolatrous worship into True Worship? Has the "Mystery Man" behind "Mystery of Lawlessness" and "Mystery Babylon" been active again? (see Jer. 16:19-21, Isa. 25:7, Isa. 30:28, Rev. 17:2,4,5, as well as 2 Thess. 2:7). Indeed, we do find evidence of his veiled, his hidden, his mysterious work. In The Oxford English Dictionary, vol. 5, p. 345, under "Holy", we read, ". . . the primitive pre-Christian meaning is uncertain . . . Its earlier application to heathen deities is found in ON [Old Norse]." Likewise, we read in the big Netherland's Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal, vol. 6, p. 455 (I translate), "An explanation of the original meaning, that makes it clear as to how this adjective has obtained the meaning of the Latin sanctus, has not yet been given — For speculations, see e.g. KLUGE, FRANCK AND MURRAY." But we did discover the origin of the word "holy". In G. Jobes, Dictionary of Mythology Folklore and Symbols, p. 781, we read, "HOLY: In practically all languages, the word for holy has been derived from the divinely honored sun." We found confirmation in Forlong's Encyclopedia of Religions, as follows, "HOLI: The Great Hindu spring festival .. . held in honour of Krishna, as the spring sun-god . . . a personified woman called Holi . . . Holi had tried to poison the babe Krishna ...." Further revealing evidence was yet to come. In Strong's Concordance, in the Greek Lexicon No. 1506, we found the following: "heile (the sun's ray)"—this is pronounced: heilei. This form is almost identical to the German and Dutch equivalent of the English "holy". The meaning of "halo", the ring on top of a saint's head, now became clear to us. And this was confirmed in J.C. Cooper, An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols, p. 112, "NIMBUS, HALO, or AUREOLE: Originally indicative of solar power and the sun's disk, hence an attribute of sun-gods."
The truth of this most disturbing find stunned us. We simply could not handle it. Gradually we came to understand. The Great Deceiver will not make the mistake of diverting the worship towards himself. By just diverting it to the innocent sun, Satan would succeed in his master plan by firstly veiling, and then bringing into the Temple the "wicked abomination", as Elohim had called this Sun-mixed worship (Eze. 8:9-16). It is well known how pictures of our Messiah, of Mary, and of a great number of saints were adorned with a sun-disc (nimbus), or halo, or sun-rays, thereby identifying him/her with the Sun-deity, or even only being taken as blessed by the Sun-deity. With the word "holy" being applied to the Spirit of Yahweh, called in Hebrew Ruach ha Qodesh the enormous challenge was put to us: Can we continue to use the word "Holy Spirit"? Ruach ha Qodesh simply means: "The Spirit of Separation". Can we continue bringing homage to the Sun, once the truth has been revealed to us, and be found guilty of participating in the "wicked abominations" of Eze. 8:9-16?
In the Scriptures we are warned of Job's similar predicament in Job 31 :26-28, in which Job warns us of this "an iniquity worthy of judgment, for I would have denied Elohim who is above." Have we not been warned in Jer. 10:2, "Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; do not be dismayed (awed) at the signs of heaven for the Gentiles are dismayed (awed) at them."? Can we ignore the disastrous result of Israel's disobedience to the Law which caused Elohim to have "turned and gave them up to worship the host of heaven," Acts 7:42? We who have entered into the New Covenant, having the Law of Yahweh written into our hearts (Heb. 8:10 and 10:16), can we delight in His Law, His Words? Do we accept His warning which comes to us in Deut.4:19, "And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you fee driven to worship them and serve them, which Yahweh your Elohim has given to all the peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage"? If it has been revealed to US having been led by the Spirit of Truth, that the word "holy" has been derived from the divinely honoured sun can we ignore it? In direct contrast to this "sun-origin" of the word "holy", the Hebrew qodesh and the Greek hagios have nothing to do with the sun or sun-rays at all The Spirit of Truth put the challenge before us: If we love Him Who first loved us, we will worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. If we love the Spirit of Yahweh, we will call Him: The Spirit of Separation, and not "the spirit of the sun". The former is the truth, the latter is a lie if it is meant to be a translation of Ruach ha Qodesh. If the term "spirit of the sun" is devoid of all Scriptural truth how much more is the term "spirit of the divinely honoured sun"?—or "the spirit that solarises", or "the solarised spirit"?
This article was taken from the Everlasting Good News Website, Shalom, Baqashemet

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The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. Yesha'yahu 24:4-6

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Iyahna

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posted 08-06-2000 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iyahna     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Bless you Baqashemet,

Thank you for that knowledge filled post. I would like to add a little more.

Strong’s # 40 hagios {hag'-ee-os} says (an awful thing) sacred (phys. pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially consecrated The Blue Letter Bible edition says 1) most holy thing, a saint

most holy thing - an awful thing

Psalms 4:4 Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah.

Hebrew ‘awe’
7264 ragaz {raw-gaz'} • 1) tremble, quake, rage, quiver, be agitated, be
excited, be perturbed 1a) (Qal) to quake, be disquieted, be excited, be perturbed
1b) (Hiphil) to cause to quake, disquiet, enrage, disturb 1c) (Hithpael) to excite
oneself.

Psalms 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world
stand in awe of him.

Hebrew ‘awe’
1481 guwr {goor} • 1) to sojourn, abide, dwell in, dwell with, remain, inhabit, be a
stranger, be continuing, surely 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to sojourn, dwell for a time 1a2) to
abide, stay, temporarily dwell 1b) (Hithpolel) 1b1) to seek hospitality with 1b2) to
assemble oneself 2) to stir up trouble, strife, quarrel, gather together 2a) (Qal)
2a1) to stir up strife 2a2) to quarrel 2b) (Hithpolel) to excite oneself 3) to dread,
fear, stand in awe, be afraid 3a) (Qal) 3a1) to fear, be afraid 3a2) to be in awe,
stand in awe

awe - be afraid, tremble

Hebrew for holy - 6918 qadowsh {kaw-doshe'} or qadosh {kaw-doshe'} sacred (ceremonially or morally); ( as noun) G-d (by eminence) an angel, a saint, a sanctuary

Holy is not mentioned anywhere. Yet, the word 'sacred', 'G-d', angel, saint or sanctuary is rarely used in translation.

Saint is used in....
Psalms 106:16 They envied Moses also in the camp, and Aaron the saint(qadosh)of the LORD.
and Dan 8:13, Phil 4:21. I found santuary used, but never found it used as G-d, sacred, and angel thus far. I would have to do a more intricate search. So why would they use 'holy'? I found in the Oxford dictionary that many words were created in the 10th to 14th century and often taken from German (Khazar's) and Latin (Rome). These are the two thieves of the Christian and Hebrew culture. No wonder the translation is full of pagan terms once reaching the English language.

So if we say Holy Holy holy ‘’’’IS’’’’ the Lord G-d of Hosts - Adonai t’sebaoth.
We are actually saying the Sun G-d is Adonai T’sebaoth?

Oh let our lips not speak guile. I always wondered why the Greeks called Rauch ha Qodesh ‘Holy Ghost’. Why would the Spirit of LIFE poured out on all flesh be called a ghost as if it is an entity that visits in singular form. I have never seen the Spirit of YH in a form, but always as a blanket of presence.

Let us speak Hebrew ‘Ruach ha Qodesh’ for King James does cause us to err like Balaam and Balac.

Revelations 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there
them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock
before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit
fornication.

They do make us call out to idols.

The same knowledge easily applies to ‘Amen’. At the end of every prayer the sun god Amen Ra is acknowledged.

Do you know anything about the word history of ‘Shekinah’?

Bless-in's
Iyahna

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