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Author Topic:   This Goy needs to know what Jewish Year this is???
sojourner

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posted 12-22-1999 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sojourner   Click Here to Email sojourner     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Could somebody please tell me what Jewish year we are currently in. Please also tell me what is considered as the beginning of the Jewish calender.


Thanks in advance

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Channah

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posted 12-22-1999 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Channah   Click Here to Email Channah     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Shalom,

We are in the Hebrew year 5760. The Jewish calendar begins at Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year.

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sojourner

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posted 12-23-1999 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sojourner   Click Here to Email sojourner     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
If this is the Jewish year 5760 then Messiah should come (return) in 2,240. What a disappointment for everyone who is expecting him sooner.

If a day is like a thousand years with YHWH then Messiah will return on the seventh Jewish Millennium. The Sabbath Millennium.
The thousand years of peace when Messiah rules the earth.

What do you think???

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posted 12-23-1999 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for uriah7   Click Here to Email uriah7     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think that you are right Sojourner,
At least that is the message that I get from the observance of Sukkot.

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Channah

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posted 12-23-1999 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Channah   Click Here to Email Channah     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
When Jews say this is the calendar year 5760, we know what we are talking about and referring to.

The Hebrew calendar is missing 240 years, so actually it is year 6000 from creation not 5760 [5760 + 240 = 6000].

This can be documented in Seder Olam Rabbah article of the Encyclopedia Judaica. See this link for more information:

Missing 240 years

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sojourner

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posted 12-24-1999 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sojourner   Click Here to Email sojourner     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Well if the Hebrew calender is missing 240 year and has been 6,000 years since the "creation" then we could be witness to Messiah's coming very soon?

Keep looking up!

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anav

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posted 12-24-1999 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anav   Click Here to Email anav     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Shalom all,

Yes, in hopes of a soon coming return to put an end to haSatan's Claus's kingdom and rulership. His kingdom contains so much suffering, pain, hardship, cruelty, disease, death and the like that a soon end will be welcomed. But 6000 years compared to all eternity past and future is but a blink. What is 6 little days to Yahweh anyway?

Exod 12:1 And Yahweh spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
Exod 12:2 This month [shall be] unto you the beginning of months: it [shall be] the first month of the year to you.
Exod 12:3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth [day] of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of [their] fathers, a lamb for an house:

To answer your question sojourner, about the end of the pagan March or early April would begin the new year, when creation becomes new again in the Spring. It is called Abib (Aviv), and it is when the Feast of Passover/Unleavened Bread takes place. The first new moon on or after the planet alignment of the vernal equinox is what most believe to be accurate. By the Roman calendar, this would be on or after March 21st each year, whenever the next new moon took place. I hope this helps give you some answers. I don't know a whole lot, but this is what I understand at this point.

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Shalom to all :) and may Iaue's people fear His name and glorify it...

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kongavnorge

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posted 12-25-1999 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kongavnorge   Click Here to Email kongavnorge     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Yes, this is year 5760 A.M. of the Hebrew Calendar. It was established by Seth, the son of Adam at the birth of Enos. The year originally started with the month Tishri. However, for sacred purposes, YAHWEH changed the beginning of the year to Nisan (Exodus 12:1-2) Bishop Ussher's date for Creation was 4004 B.C.E. and Yeshua ha-Meshiach is said to have been born on or about Tishri 1, 4 B.C.E. The number of years between Adam (3996 B.C.E ) and Enos (3761 B.C.E.) is given as 235. 6 x 666 = 3996. 9 x 666 = 5994,
6 x 999 = 5994. There is great significance in this and the number of man which is 666 (ha-Chizayon 13:18)

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Channah

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posted 12-25-1999 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Channah   Click Here to Email Channah     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The "new year" begins with Tishri 1, Rosh Hashana therefore the Hebrew calendar begins with Tishri 1, but the months are counted from Nissan as a constant reminder of the Exodus.

Months are counted from Nissan, while the years themselves are counted from the month of Tishri, which according to Jewish tradition is the anniversary of the creation of the world, Tishri 1.

The first of Nissan marks the beginning of that year for recording the history of Jewish kings and the calculating of the holy days. The first of Tishri commences the cival year for the purpose of contracts.

So, the Jewish/Hebrew/Biblical year has double cycle--the first cycle relates to the earthly and secular life, which begins in the autumn, following the evolution of nature (seasons) itself connected with the creation of the world; the second cycle, spiritual and national, begins in the spring, which follows the unfolding history and comes into being with the creation of Yisrael.

However, both compliment one another just as the soul and body maintain one another. One does not annul the other, they both, the Sacred (Nissan) and the Cival (Tishri) calendars, are applicable and should be understood so to correctly understand Elohim's time frames within the Scriptures.

We see in Scripture a very good application of the two coinciding calendars is Yoel 2:23b. You cannot get the spring festivals (former rain) and the fall festivals (latter rain) both within the "first month." The "former rain" (spring) festivals begins in the first month on the Sacred calendar--Nissan, but the "latter rain" (fall) festivals begin in the first month of the Cival calendar--Tishri.

The counting within the Hebrew calendar years was not established by Shet. It was established at the creation of Adam on the 6th day, Tishri 6. In Judaism this is when we begin our count of the years from creation, of when the nishmat chayim (breath of life, Gen. 2:7) was imparted to Adam and began the count of the years within Elohim's plan for mankind---a 7 thousand year plan coinciding with the 7 days of a week, the 7th being the Shabbat (Messianic Kingdom).

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