- I believe our first call is Sister Marie Fagans. Shabbat Shalom to you.
Marie:
- Shabbat Shalom.
EliYah:
- How are you doing?
Marie:
- Well, I was stressing, even though you said not to.
EliYah:
- A little stressing, huh? Well, let the peace of Yahweh reign. HalleluYah!
Marie:
- We just wanted to call in and say hi, and Jasmine wanted to talk today.
EliYah:
- All right.
Marie:
- Here she is.
EliYah:
- Sounds good.
Jasmine:
- Shabbat Shalom.
EliYah:
- Shabbat Shalom, Jasmine. How are you doing?
Jasmine:
- Fine.
EliYah:
- Very good. Are you enjoying this Shabbat day?
Jasmine:
- Yes.
EliYah:
- Is it a little rainy down there like it is here?
Jasmine:
- Mm-hm.
EliYah:
- Yeah, we've had nothing but rain all week, but praise Yahweh. We need it. So do you want to share something today?
Jasmine:
- Huh?
EliYah:
- Do you have something you wanted to share today?
Jasmine:
- No, I was just wanting to say hi.
EliYah:
- All right, everybody's heard the hello from Jasmine. Anybody else?
Jasmine:
- Hold on, I think Laura wants to say hi.
EliYah:
- Who?
Jasmine:
- Laura.
EliYah:
- Laura, okay.
Jasmine:
- She's occupied right now.
EliYah:
- Oh, okay.
Jasmine:
- But the little baby wants to say hi.
EliYah:
- Is that Vida?
Marie:
- Say hello. [child talking in background] Say hello. Say hello.
EliYah:
- Wow, she's really gotten older.
Marie:
- She wants to hold the phone. Say hello. Say hello. [child talking in background]
EliYah:
- Say praise Yahweh. [child talking in background]
Marie:
- I'm going to take the phone, because she's going to hang it up. Anyway, we're going to say bye.
EliYah:
- All right.
Marie:
- Laura may call back in a little bit.
EliYah:
- How old is Vida now?
Marie:
- One.
EliYah:
- One year old.
Marie:
- 14 months.
EliYah:
- How many months?
Marie:
- 14 and trying to talk away.
EliYah:
- 14 months. All right. Well, Shabbat Shalom to you and your household. Anything else?
Marie:
- Well, I'd like to talk to you later on, like I said on that thing.
EliYah:
- Okay.
Marie:
- But we'll discuss that later. But I need prayer for the family.
EliYah:
- Prayer for what? The family?
Marie:
- The family.
EliYah:
- Your family?
Marie:
- Yeah.
EliYah:
- How's your husband doing?
Marie:
- I haven't heard from him in a few days.
EliYah:
- Okay. Is it your daughter?
Marie:
- That's the part I need to talk to you about later.
EliYah:
- Okay, all right. We'll do that. We'll also add you to prayer today, as well.
Marie:
- Okay. Shabbat Shalom.
EliYah:
- Shabbat Shalom. Make sure you pray for Marie Fagans and also Vida's mother. We didn't get a chance to talk to her--Laura Fagans. Remember them in prayer. I believe we do have another phone call, if I'm not mistaken. I'll switch over here. I believe it's Avigail. Is that correct?
Avigail:
- That's correct, yes. Shabbat Shalom.
EliYah:
- Shabbat Shalom to you. How are you doing?
Avigail:
- I'm doing fantastic. The weather here in Juneau, Alaska, is beautiful. We've had just a really harsh, very extremely harsh winter, and we're just really happy that the sun's finally here.
EliYah:
- What is considered beautiful weather in Alaska?
Avigail:
- It's supposed to be up to 70 degrees, and that's really, really hot for us.
EliYah:
- 70 degrees in Alaska. How about that?
Avigail:
- Yes, yes. It might--I'm sorry, go on.
EliYah:
- That's about what we're getting. Actually, it's a little cooler today. It's 54 out there right now.
Avigail:
- Oh, 54, that's last summer--it was about late 50's and early 50's, and they hit the 40's. We had two years of just very cold, cold weather, so we're so looking forward to some heat today, this year.
EliYah:
- Well, praise Yahweh. What a great day for that, too.
Avigail:
- Yes, amen. Last week I called regarding my granddaughter Shiva--was having seizures. She's out of the hospital. They don't know what caused them or why they came on. They ran all sort of tests, the heart echo, EEG, spinal tap, a few other tests, blood tests, looking for bacteria.
- They couldn't find anything, but she is beginning to come out of it. She's just coming out of it. It's less and less intense, and it's less each day.
EliYah:
- Did they figure out what it was?
Avigail:
- No, never did figure out what it was, but it seems like she's just coming out of it, so I'm just praising Yahweh for that.
EliYah:
- HalleluYah. Well, it could be just Yahweh answering our prayers.
Avigail:
- Yep, that's what I believe.
EliYah:
- Yeah. And her name is Shiva, correct?
Avigail:
- That's correct. Shiva, yes.
EliYah:
- She had some seizures, it was actually a week ago, I believe.
Avigail:
- Yeah, saw her last Friday night about sunset, actually.
EliYah:
- But we will keep her and also Shann, Louisa, and Chris in prayers, as well.
Avigail:
- Yes, and I had some other--yes, thank you. Louisa is actually getting married today, tonight after Shabbat.
EliYah:
- Louisa is?
Avigail:
- Uh-huh.
EliYah:
- Okay.
Avigail:
- And she's 25. Her and her husband is getting married. My son, who is 20, is actually performing the wedding.
EliYah:
- Oh, wow.
Avigail:
- We can, up here in Alaska, you can do a wedding, anybody, at least one time. It's going to be a big wedding outside this evening, and I just want to continue to keep them in prayers.
- Her husband to be, Brandon--both of these, Louisa and Brandon, do know about Yahweh, and I believe that their heart desires to have a relationship with Him. I just don't think they choose to make that decision yet.
EliYah:
- Okay. We're going to pray for Brandon. That's Louisa's husband to be, right?
Avigail:
- That's right, as of tonight, yes.
EliYah:
- All right. HalleluYah!
Avigail:
- Yeah, thank you.
EliYah:
- Very well, thanks for calling in. Anything else?
Avigail:
- That's it. I just thank you for your singing there online and the praises and your worship service. You talked about Shalom, and I didn't get to hear all of it today, so I have to go back and re-listen to it.
- I've personally been struggling with some shalom in my life, some forgiveness for myself and my past sins. I just felt like the answer to what I'm looking for was in the sermon today about shalom and about keeping our mind and heart and desire and will upon Yahweh.
EliYah:
- HalleluYah.
Avigail:
- And I just thank you. Anyway, I wish you and your family Shabbat Shalom and a blessing today, and I hope to listen to you next week.
EliYah:
- Very good, thanks for calling in. Shalom to your family.
Avigail:
- Okay, thank you. Bye-bye.
EliYah:
- Bye-bye. That's what we need, brethren, shalom--especially on Shabbat. That's why we say Shabbat Shalom. HalleluYah! Yahweh answers prayers in more ways than one, and that's something we all--I think in saying shalom to each other, we are blessing each other. We are saying, peace, shalom aleichem, peace be unto you. That's our desire.
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Q. Somebody asked a question about their purchase of medication, pain medication. Apparently, they found out it has shellfish in it. Are they allowed to take it? They already bought it.
EliYah:
- As far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't be any reason why we could ever justify doing that which Yahweh told us not to do. He told us not to eat shellfish or unclean animals, don't put it into our bodies. So I have to go along with that. I can't tell you to do anything other than that. I can't tell you--and if I did tell you, you shouldn't listen to me.
- If I said, "Oh, go ahead and eat it," then you shouldn't listen to what I say. But I'm not telling you that. I'm encouraging you to not put that into your body. Yahweh calls it an abomination, and He doesn't want us to make our bodies abominable to Him. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit.
- We should be always ready at any day, any moment, any hour--Yahweh help us--we should be ready to give up our whole life and die, rather than sin, rather than disobey our heavenly Father. A lot of these little things like this, in some future time, if persecution was to come, we need to be in practice of resisting sin, if necessary, to bloodshed.
- We know sin is transgression of the law. We don't want to transgress Yahweh's law and be willing to die before we would do so.
Q. Somebody asked about 1 Timothy 4:1-4.
1Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1Timothy 4:2 - speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
1Timothy 4:3 - forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from foods which Elohim created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
1Timothy 4:4 - For every creature of Elohim [is] good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;- For those who already eat pork, it's pretty easy for them to look at this scripture from their own mindset and assume that Paul is calling those who only believe in eating clean animals as those who follow doctrines of demons and have their conscious seared with a hot iron.
1Timothy 4:4 - For every creature of Elohim [is] good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;
1Timothy 4:5 - for it is sanctified by the word of Elohim and prayer.- Now, of course, after reading these verses, some mistakenly thought as long as they pray before eating an unclean animal, Yahweh cleanses it for them, but that's not what's meant.
1Timothy 4:4 - For every creature of Elohim [is] good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;- Every creature of Elohim. Could there be a creature which is of Elohim and another creature which is not of Elohim? We do know there are some men we consider to be men of Elohim and other men which are not men of Elohim.
2Peter 1:21 - for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of Elohim spoke [as they were] moved by the Holy Spirit.- Men who are of Elohim are holy men. Men who are not of Elohim are unholy. Can we say the same of all of Yahweh's creatures? Although He created all men, some men and some creatures are of Elohim; others are not.
Leviticus 10:10 - "that you may distinguish between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean,
Ezekiel 22:6 - "Look, the princes of Israel: each one has used his power to shed blood in you.
1Corinthians 7:14 - For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.- Holy and unclean are opposites. The things that are holy are things that are clean.
Leviticus 11:44 - `For I [am] YAHWEH your Elohim. You shall therefore consecrate yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I [am] holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creeping thing that creeps on the earth.- Talking about unclean things. Holiness and sanctification are intricately linked with each other, with cleanness. Becoming unholy is intricately linked with being defiled or unclean.
1Timothy 4:3 - forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from foods which Elohim created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.- The context is "those who believe and know the truth." Those who believe and know the truth are going to know the difference between the clean and unclean, the holy and unholy, between that which is of Elohim and that which is not.
Isaiah 8:20 - To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.- The two are one. They're not against each other.
Q. What about the scripture, "Eat what is set before you."
EliYah:
- That's not referring to the unclean animals. That is referring to food that's offered to idols that maybe has been purchased in the marketplace. There was a specific command from Acts 15 that the Gentiles were not to eat food offered to idols.
- The context was going into a temple and having a fellowship meal with an idol. But in the marketplace, it was mixed in with the rest of the food, the rest of the meats out there. Some may have been offered to an idol. Unless you know that was offered to an idol, it means nothing.
- The point was eat what's set before you. You don't have to ask. But if somebody tells you that was of an idol, then you don't eat it. That's what that was talking about. It was not talking about eat whatever pork or even if your friend is a cannibal, eat what's set before you. No, you're not supposed to eat that which is unclean.
Q. What are pigs for? Why did Yahweh make them?
EliYah:
- Well, I could ask Yahweh that, and maybe He'll answer me directly, but I can see some good uses for it. In their wild state, they went around and cleaned up all the garbage of the earth. They're garbage cleaners.
- Shellfish, the weight of their shells, they have to be on the bottom. They are the bottom feeders. They eat all the garbage on the bottom of the ocean. All the excrement has to go somewhere, and so we're not called--no wonder they're unclean. We're not called to eat those things.
- That is what I see as the good purpose for which they were created. I don't know why He created mosquitoes. Maybe I'll have to ask Him that later. But I've not gotten an answer on the mosquito question. Good questions. I hope I answered adequately.
Q. Somebody asked a question about the calendar. How do we keep the right days?
EliYah:
- I want to mention, before I get to this question, I do have a full study on the clean/unclean question. Go to EliYah.com/clean.html. It's linked from the main page also under the Torah keeping section. EliYah.com/clean.html.
- That question is dealt with fully. 1 Timothy 4, Acts 10, and many others, if you're interested in reading or listening to a study on that topic.
Q. How do we keep the right days if we follow Hillel? I believe the basics, but what about some of the things that differentiate certain groups?
EliYah:
- To answer that question--maybe somebody doesn't know who Hillel is. Hillel is the author, Hillel 2 actually, is the author of the current Jewish calendar being practiced by Judaism. His calendar is different than the calendar the Jews observed in second temple Judaism during the first century when Yahushua was on the earth.
- You can read the Talmud, and they'll tell you that they were looking for a crescent moon every month, and they brought witnesses forward. When they saw the moon, that was the beginning of the month.
- Since that's the calendar they were observing in the first century, Yahushua kept the same days, and so did the disciples. In light of that, that would be the calendar we would follow. The Hillel calendar goes according to not the crescent moon being the new month, but the conjunction, and that would be the dark moon.
- When you see the scientific new moon time and date on a calendar, that would be the conjunction, and that's the new moon Judaism follows today.
- In light of these things, through the studies I've done--I know not everybody agrees with me--but I want to follow the new moon according to the visible crescent. That's when I consider the new month to have been ordained by Yahweh, and not a dark moon that requires calculations and maybe even computers and things to really nail down.
- What if the conjunction occurs at 6:30, and sundown is at 6:30? What do you do? Which day would be the correct new moon day? Sundown and conjunction are at the same time. That would be a tough thing to do. We've tried to follow the calendar as we understand it from the scriptures, the best we can, and go from there.
Q. Is taking medication basically the same as eating pepperoni pizza?
EliYah:
- Yahweh says not to touch it, not to eat. You're putting it into your body, whether it's in pill form or pepperoni form. It seems to me if it's from a pig, we wouldn't want to put it into our bodies. I don't see any difference, whatever form that man does with it.
- Some people say if it's gelatin, it's no big deal. If you needed a pig to create this food, and the pig is in the food, then we shouldn't eat it.
Q. Somebody asked about Romans 14.
EliYah:
- I would encourage you to read a fully study on that particular chapter of scripture. EliYah.com/Romans 14.html. I give a verse-by-verse study of that chapter. I'll put that in the room. That would be the best thing I can tell you, because the study of that verse requires a full study of the context of the verse in which it's speaking.
- The context of that particular verse about nothing being unclean of itself and so on is referring to foods being offered to idols. Is it automatically unclean, simply because it was offered to an idol?
- The question is answered no, not necessarily. But if we're walking in a temple and having a fellowship meal with that thing, then even though the food itself is clean, we don't want to partake of idolatry.
- I think that was all the questions, if I'm not mistaken. Looking through the list here, making sure I've covered them all. All right, I believe we do have somebody on the line here, line two. I believe we have Richard Roe. Shabbat Shalom, brother.
Richard:
- Shabbat Shalom. I wanted to ask in regard to what your study was today, about Hebrew 3 and 4, how you understand that.
Hebrews 3:7 - Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: "Today, if you will hear His voice,
Hebrews 3:8 - Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness,- After three days off the Red Sea, they wanted to drink water that was bitter, so God told Moses to throw the tree into the water, and it became sweet. Later on, they were asking for water for their cattle and themselves, so Moses took the rod and hit the stone. He said, "Shall we bring water out of this rock for you?"
Hebrews 3:11 - So I swore in My wrath, `They shall not enter My rest.'"- Because they lost faith and were going away from the Living God by the things they were doing--not the commandments, but other things they were doing, losing faith. Then it goes on to chapter 4 saying some similar things.
EliYah:
- I agree. I do think faith and obedience--you can't separate the two--faith and obedience go hand-in-hand. I think what you said is correct. He actually says:
Hebrews 3:8 - Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness,
Hebrews 3:16 - For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, [was it] not all who came out of Egypt, [led] by Moses?
Hebrews 3:17 - Now with whom was He angry forty years? [Was it] not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness?
Hebrews 3:18 - And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey?- We see they could not enter because of unbelief. Unbelief and disobedience go hand-in-hand. We are called to trust in Yahweh, and we are called to walk in His ways. We can't claim to be full of faith and then be disobedient at the same time. It goes on in Hebrews 4.
Hebrews 4:1 - Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.- That's referring to the promised land promised to the children of Abraham, of which we are, through Yahushua. Come short of it how? Through unbelief, disobedience, through sinning.
Hebrews 4:2 - For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard [it].- They didn't believe it. In fact, they said in Numbers, they said, "Let's appoint a captain and go back to Egypt." They didn't believe Yahweh was going to bring them into the land. We, who have believed, do enter that rest, as He has said.
Hebrews 4:3 - For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So I swore in My wrath, `They shall not enter My rest,'" although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 4:4 - For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh [day] in this way: "And Elohim rested on the seventh day from all His works";- We, who believe, do enter that rest. What rest? He gives a reason: because He spoke it on a certain day, the seventh day. Elohim rested on the seventh day from all His works. So we rest on the seventh day, as well.
Hebrews 4:5 - and again in this [place]: "They shall not enter My rest."
Hebrews 4:6 - Since therefore it remains that some [must] enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,- He designates a certain day. That teaches us it's a future thing--not just the regular Sabbath, but also a future rest.
Hebrews 4:7 - again He designates a certain day, saying in David, "Today," after such a long time, as it has been said: "Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts."- He's making the point there is a future rest in addition to the Sabbath rest.
Hebrews 4:9 - There remains therefore a rest for the people of Elohim.- There is still a rest in the future.
Hebrews 4:10 - For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as Elohim [did] from His.
Hebrews 4:11 - Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.- Some will actually use these scriptures to do away with the Sabbath. I don't know how they manage to do that, but I guess because they see the Sabbath being a picture of our eternal rest, they think the eternal rest replaces the Sabbath.
Richard:
- In the rest that we enter into, is that similar or different from the seventh day Sabbath God created in Genesis 2 and also the one He gave in the Ten Commandments? Are they different? Was one a picture of the other? How would you see that?
EliYah:
- They're not exactly the same. In the age to come, the Sabbath is still going to be kept. It says from one Sabbath to another, all flesh will come to worship before Yahweh. The Sabbath will continue to be kept and continue to be a picture of our rest in the Messiah and of our rest in the age to come.
- That rest, why are we fighting all the time? Is it not sin that we're constantly battling with? I think that battle, at least because of our corruptible flesh that's constantly trying to draw us into sin, that battle will be finally over and our works, the things we're trying to accomplish here.
- We're going to be able to rest from that. That's how I see that future rest. But right now we're in the wilderness. We're not in our eternal home. We're in this wilderness like the children of Israel were, and we're being tested, and tried, and striving against sin, and battling, and learning Torah, as they were learning Torah.
- In the future time, we're going to have the Torah written on our hearts in such a way that we will walk out, and the struggle and fight will finally be over, because we're going to put on incorruptible. We can't be corrupted anymore. That's the blessing.
Richard:
- We have a Bible study once a week, and there's about 15 men that attend it. We're now in Hebrews 3 and 4, just getting started. The viewpoint has been expressed that there is a difference between the seventh day, 24 hour Sabbath, and this resting of God here.
- One pictures the other, like you quoted. It's a picture of the good things to come. It was a shadow of them. The line of argument was, these Jews at the time David quotes here--I mean Paul quotes David in Psalm 95, which he takes from the whole thing--was it referring to these Jews who were keeping the seventh day Sabbath regularly, even fanatically?
- Yet they had not entered into God's rest. In that way, it's a different thing. God's rest they were talking about here, having the faith of Abraham, and to be truly in Christ, was somewhat different from the Jews keeping the seventh, 24 hour day.
- They were saying that was the real Sabbath we should keep in mind, the law being a shadow of the good things to come. We do not want to try to keep the shadow. We want to look forward to the reality of it.
EliYah:
- That doesn't make any sense, simply because he says right there in the actual chapter, he said, "Who were the ones who didn't make it? The ones who sinned. Their corpses fell in the wilderness. Who did He swear they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey?"
- If they refused to obey the Sabbath, for instance, then they didn't enter the rest. There were other things they didn't obey. It's not just the Sabbath command only. That's not the only thing written in the Torah. How well were they keeping Shabbat? Yahweh didn't say one way or the other.
- There was one man who was gathering sticks on the Sabbath. We can't say they were not allowed to sin, and because they were not allowed to sin, they could not enter His rest. But we're allowed to sin. We can break Sabbath. We can do other things that transgress the law of Yahweh.
- That doesn't make sense. He says, who was He angry with 40 years? Wasn't it those who sinned? He says that we should not do what they did.
Richard:
- Does that include Moses?
EliYah:
- Mosheh did sin--we know that--when he struck the rock and so on. Even though he did probably keep Shabbat faithfully, he did fail in that area. And for that reason, Yahweh did not permit him to enter. As it says in James, teachers are held to higher standards. That's the real danger.
- He was held to that higher standard because of the position he was in. Every one of them was rejected, except for Joshua and Caleb.
Richard:
- So then would you say that there were actually two different things here? Or do you say they're the same thing?
Hebrews 4:8 - For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.- The two different points of view--there are two separate things and ne'er shall the twain meet. Another is they're actually the same thing but said in different ways. That's the problem that comes up there.
EliYah:
- I think that one mirrors the other. In that sense, they're separate. But you can't separate them to the extent to say sin is no longer transgression of the law. That would contradict other scriptures.
- If Yahweh's law in the Ten Commandments tells us to keep His Sabbath, then you can't separate that and say that's not sin, when other scripture would contradict that. You have to reconcile all scripture together. He even says it in Hebrews 3, that those who sinned are the ones whose corpses fell in the wilderness.
Hebrews 4:11 - Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.- We are called to let the Word of Elohim, which is living and powerful, discern our thoughts and intents of our hearts and make change. That would include any disobedience in any form, whether it be Sabbath breaking or any other sin.
Richard:
- I'll try to relay that to our study group. The other question that may come up is that since the law is a shadow of things to come, why would we continue to keep the shadow when the reality is here?
EliYah:
- Well, because sin is transgression of the law. We don't want to sin. Even though there are beautiful shadows in the Torah, and continue to be shadows in the New Testament, even as baptism, we could say is a shadow of a good thing to come, which is our rebirth to incorruptible as we put on Messiah--just because it's a shadow, there is no scripture that says disobey the shadows and obey the ones that are not shadows.
- If the law and entirety of the law is a shadow of things to come, then we don't say, "The law says right there don't commit adultery. Since the law is a shadow, we're free to commit adultery now."
- The whole law is a shadow of things to come in many different ways. In the age to come, the law is going to be kept to utter perfection. It's going to be commanded, it's going to be demanded, and the whole world, Zechariah 14, is going to keep the Feast of Tabernacles--Gentile, Jew alike, whether they want to or not, or Yahweh will send no rain.
- If we disobey the shadows now, why is Yahweh commanding the shadows to be kept in the kingdom, right there in the kingdom of which it's supposed to be shadowing? The law itself is still observed, including the feast days.
Richard:
- That's a very good point.
EliYah:
- If those things are shadows not to be kept anymore, then why are the shadows being kept in the time when the very thing is obviously being fulfilled right there in the kingdom?
Richard:
- I think that's a very good point you made there, very good point. I guess I can hear in my own mind somebody that's saying, "Oh, look, was not the sheep, goats, and all those things a shadow of Christ? Why would we want to keep killing sheep and goats, when Christ is the reality of it? Why can't we have faith in Christ, rather than faith in the shadow, the sheep?" I guess that would be the response, I would assume.
EliYah:
- In the kingdom to come, we could read Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 40, all the way to the end, other places, where the sacrifices will be returning in that time. The temple is going to be built, and the feasts will be observed, and there will be sacrifices. I can't deny that's what the scriptures say are going to happen.
- Since I believe the prophets are true, I have to accept those things. Just because there are sacrifices taking place doesn't in any way minimize what the Messiah has done. No one is really putting faith in a bull or a goat.
- The reality is our faith is in Yahweh, who commanded His people to observe this, and this is going to display the Messiah. Some people say let's not keep the day of atonement, because Yahushua did that already.
- What more beautiful way to proclaim the Messiah Himself than to keep the day of atonement? What greater way to display the Messiah Himself than to offer these offerings to Yahweh and let them show forth as a memorial to His awesome act that He did? Why do we take away things that display Him so beautifully, and then in Christianity as a whole accept things that come out of paganism and never was commanded?
Richard:
- And they certainly do that.
EliYah:
- So things have really been turned around backwards. They keep things that come from demonic religions and are rooted in those things and condemn us for keeping the things that are written in scripture.
- We need to get back to the Torah, back to the ancient paths, back to the way that Yahweh has commanded. If sin is still transgression of the law--and it is--then we don't want to transgress the law. To me, that's really the bottom line. If sin is transgression of the law, and we're not supposed to sin, then guess what? We have to keep Yahweh's law.
- If the carnal mind won't subject itself to Yahweh's law, then if I refuse to obey the law of Yahweh, then that means I have a carnal mind, and I don't want to have a carnal mind. I want to have a spiritual mind.
Richard:
- You would use the verses in Zechariah 14 or Ezekiel 40, the verses you quoted a minute ago? What verses did you have in mind?
EliYah:
- Regarding the sacrifices?
Richard:
- I believe you were talking about that, yes.
EliYah:
- Yeah. If you read Ezekiel 40 all the way to the end, it's very clear. This has never happened. This has never been fulfilled. This temple it's describing has not been built with the waters going down to the Dead Sea, and healing the Dead Sea, and men fishing out of the Dead Sea. It's all predicted in Ezekiel.
- I went to the Dead Sea a couple of months ago, and there weren't any men fishing there. The Dead Sea is 25 percent salt. Nothing was living in the Dead Sea.
- Until that is fulfilled--those things in Ezekiel are still waiting to be fulfilled. A lot of the things written there mirror what we see in Revelation is going to happen. In Zechariah 14, it talks about those who sacrifice shall come and see--then these pots, which are holy to Yahweh--why is it talking about sacrifices if sacrifices have been done away with? That's in Zechariah 14:20-21.
- There's other places. If you look at Jeremiah, it talks about the Levites. I could look that up for you.
Richard:
- Sure, that would be helpful, if you could.
EliYah:
- I'm trying to think of how the verse goes about the covenant with day and night. I still see day and night happening. I'm going to look this up.
Richard:
- I don't know which scripture that is offhand.
EliYah:
- In Jeremiah 33:
Jeremiah 33:17 - "For thus says YAHWEH: `David shall never lack a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel;
Jeremiah 33:18 - `nor shall the priests, the Levites, lack a man to offer burnt offerings before Me, to kindle grain offerings, and to sacrifice continually.'"
Jeremiah 33:19 - And the word of YAHWEH came to Jeremiah, saying,
Jeremiah 33:20 - "Thus says YAHWEH: `If you can break My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night, so that there will not be day and night in their season,
Jeremiah 33:21 - `then My covenant may also be broken with David My servant, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne, and with the Levites, the priests, My ministers.- These are obviously ordinances. As long as we have day and night happening here, there are Levites to offer burnt offerings, and there is a man, obviously, Yahushua the Son of David to sit on the throne of the house of Israel.
Richard:
- There's one in Isaiah 66 also, isn't there, near the end of the chapter? I can't say the verse right now. You quote it a minute ago, didn't you?
EliYah:
- 66:20--not 66:20--66:22? No, not that either. Yeah, 66:23.
Isaiah 66:23 - And it shall come to pass [That] from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me," says YAHWEH.
Isaiah 66:24 -- Yahushua quoted this in referring to the lake of fire. He said this is what's going to happen. If that's going to happen, then why would not verse 23 also happen?
Micah 4:1 - Now it shall come to pass in the latter days [That] the mountain of YAHWEH'S house Shall be established on the top of the mountains, And shall be exalted above the hills; And peoples shall flow to it.
Micah 4:2 - Many nations shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of YAHWEH, To the house of the Elohim of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion the law shall go forth, And the word of YAHWEH from Jerusalem.
Micah 4:3 - He shall judge between many peoples, And rebuke strong nations afar off; They shall beat their swords into plowshares, And their spears into pruning hooks; Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, Neither shall they learn war any more .
Micah 4:4 - But everyone shall sit under his vine and under his fig tree, And no one shall make [them] afraid; For the mouth of YAHWEH of hosts has spoken.
Micah 4:5 - For all people walk each in the name of his god, But we will walk in the name of YAHWEH our Elohim Forever and ever.- The name of Yahweh and the Torah will be an issue in those days, and it still is.
Richard:
- That's a very good text. I thank you for them. One more, if you've got time, in Genesis 2. This came up in the study also. For example, Genesis 2:4, it talks about the previous days of creation, and then it sums it all up, it seems, by saying, "This is the time they're being created in the day that Yahweh God made heaven and earth."
- So it seems to sum up the previous six ones by saying the one day rather than six days. Rather than saying the days Yahweh created them, it says in the day, one day.
EliYah:
- The word "day" in Hebrew, yom, does not necessarily always mean a 24 hour period. In fact, our word in English, we often will say the same thing, like, "I remember the day when these things happened." Or "Back in your day," we might say, "this was going on."
- It's referring to an indefinite time period--a definite time period that is not necessarily a 24 hour day. The same is true in the Hebrew language. It's translated "day" over 2,000 times, but then it's also translated "time" and different words. Even the places where it's translated "day" doesn't always mean a 24-hour period.
- We really can't use Genesis 2:4 and say that was a 24-hour day, when you have a very, very broad word like "yom" being used in the text.
Richard:
- When it says of the other six days, would you be able to say the same thing about that "yom" there, as you just said about Genesis 2:4, the "yom" there? Not a specific limited period of time, but it could mean a variety of things. A day in the sense of 24 hours, as compared to a day is 1,000 years, for example, as some texts say.
EliYah:
- Yeah, I think we would have to designate the six days of creation as six 24-hour days, primarily because He says He divides them into evening and morning. I don't know how else anyone could possibly describe a 24-hour day.
Richard:
- Can I tell you how they might do it?
EliYah:
- I'm sorry, what?
Richard:
- Can I tell you how they might do it?
EliYah:
- Well, sure, you can tell me how they might do it.
Richard:
- All right. The explanation I've heard is that evening is a time when it gets dark. Morning is the time when it gets light. So at the beginning of each of these days of creation, it was unclear as to how that day would turn out. Some say those days were 1,000 years or whatever.
- At the beginning of that time or that period, it was not clear to anyone looking on, like the angels, as to how God would complete that particular day. It was like in the evening time.
- But then toward the end of the day, it became clearer as to what His purposes were, rather than the other view that it was 12 hours of literal darkness, compared to 12 hours of literal light. That's the way I've heard it explained.
EliYah:
- You run into problems when you start getting into things like, how did all these plants survive in 1,000 years of darkness? There's a lot of things you're going to run into that doesn't make sense in creation, if you interpret those as broad days that were like millions of years or thousands of years.
- If you interpret them as a 24-hour day, as it certainly appears, you've got evening and morning taking place. Then it's understandable how, for instance, when you have these evenings and mornings, and you have the progression of creation, being of such that things are able to survive this time period, it becomes pretty clear that these are not long, long period of time.
- For instance, you've got the herbs bringing forth the grass, and that's on the third day. Then you have the abundance of living creatures coming forth on the fifth day. If you've got these long thousands of years in total darkness, how will there be any food for these animals to eat?
Richard:
- No, no, you may misunderstand me.
EliYah:
- All right.
Richard:
- They did not say that 1,000 years of light and 1,000 years of night or darkness. No, no, no. They're long periods of time made up of 24-hour days, but for a period of 1,000 years, not 500 years of night and 500 years of day. Not that way. No, they did not say that.
EliYah:
- You're saying there's not 500 years of light and 500...
Richard:
- No, no. Sorry, no. At least that's now how I understand them to be. 24-hour days, but there's 7,000 years of them, or 1,000 years, of whatever they want to say.
EliYah:
- I'm still not following you.
Richard:
- Well, at the very beginning, He created day and night, 24-hour days. But each of these days of creation was made up of 24-hour days, a million of them, or whatever it was. 1,000 years of them or 7,000 years of them, or whatever it was. You don't divide down the 7,000 years into 3,500 years of night and 3,500 years of day, or 500 years of night and 500 years of day.
- No, that's not how they view it. I can see how someone might think that's how they do it, but the ones I talked to did not say it in that respect.
- They were 24-hour days. There were 365-day years or whatever you want to say, but there's 1,000, or 7,000, or a million, or whatever you want to say, of them. The periods are links of time made up of 24-hour days each.
EliYah:
- All right. I'll tell you what. Send this to me in an email, because for some reason I'm not getting it.
Richard:
- I see, all right. I'll do that.
EliYah:
- Send it to Disciple@Eliyah.com, and then we'll either look at it and respond or we'll respond next week.
Richard:
- It's a whole lot more clearer for me to fax it to you.
EliYah:
- That's fine.
Richard:
- I don't have email.
EliYah:
- All right, you've got my fax number.
Richard:
- I think I do, yes. Right, right.
EliYah:
- Very well.
Richard:
- Then one final point, if you've got the time, in Genesis 2:2. The point in question is the Hebrew verb. Is the verb past tense, or like English, future tense, or is it a progressive tense here? The day He rested, proceeded to rest, or He rested, past tense in English, from all the things He did?
- The question is, does that mean the seventh day ended yet or not ended? Those that believe the Hebrew is a walk in consecutive, rather than a walk in versive [phonetic], believe it means that He actually is resting and has been resting for the past thousands of years, or 1,000 years, or 7,000 years, or however long.
- His rest day is still continuing. It depends on what you know the verb means there in Hebrew.
EliYah:
- I'm looking at the Hebrew here. The first instance of the word "Shabbat" or rest, "shab" is imperfect, meaning it's not completed yet. Then the word is used again toward the end of the chapter. Let me find it here. No, it's used once.
- It's in the imperfect form. The scripture that comes to my mind is Yahushua says, "I have been working, and my Father has been working." If they're working, they're not resting. It seems they are continuing to work.
- Yahushua says, "I go and prepare a place for you." I don't see how they continue to be resting, if they're doing all these things.
Richard:
- The response to that is they say, "No, it doesn't mean that Yahweh or Yahushua is resting from all the work in the entire universe. Genesis 2 is talking about the formation of the earth and things created on it, in regard to the earth itself, not the heavens."
- He's truly working throughout the rest of the universe, billions and billions of light years away or whatever. Only Genesis 2 is in regard to the work He's done here on earth. That's the response.
EliYah:
- Let me guess. That means we can break Shabbat, right?
Richard:
- I don't see how you get that. What do you mean? I don't quite understand you.
EliYah:
- Some would say since He's only resting from that portion, that we can disobey the commands. People have all kinds of ways of getting around doing what Yahweh says, so I don't know if that was one of them.
Richard:
- Oh, I've not heard that. That's one of the things I haven't heard.
EliYah:
- That word is in the imperfect form.
Richard:
- They would argue from that, that means He's still resting to this day, but He'll finish His rest in another 1,000 years, another 7,000 years, or whatever. Then He'll begin to rework things on earth, whatever is needed. That would be their line of thought, their argument.
EliYah:
- He's certainly resting from creation, the work of creation. After the 1,000 years is over, it does say there will be a new heaven and new earth. I don't know if that's where they're getting that. In that sense, I would tend to agree. There is other things we've got to look at.
- If Yahushua is going and preparing a place for us, whatever it is He has in store, it seemed like if He was doing it after His resurrection, then He's doing it now.
Richard:
- Sure.
EliYah:
- So to what extent is work involved? We can all argue that until He comes back, maybe.
Richard:
- Sure, very good. Okay. Well, I've taken up an awful lot of your time. I appreciate you--you can kick me out now.
EliYah:
- All right, good to talk to you.
Richard:
- I'll talk to you a little later.
EliYah:
- All right.
Richard:
- Yahweh bless you.
EliYah:
- Shabbat Shalom.
Richard:
- Bye.
EliYah:
- Richard Roe, always an interesting caller on the broadcast, all the tough, intricate questions. I don't claim to have all the answers, but that's what I see at this point. There are other questions that came in the room while I was speaking on the phone.
Q. Someone is having an issue with their father looking at things on the internet they should not look at and wanted to know what they should do.
EliYah:
- I don't know. Is your father a believer? That would make a huge difference. If he's not a believer, then there's probably not a whole lot that can be done. If he's a believer, then I would say that that's where one person should go to him about it. Matthew 18, follow the process.
- If he repents, great. If he doesn't, then take one or two more with you. If he repents, great. If he doesn't--and I mean in his heart, in his mind, he doesn't want to do it anymore. That's what repentance is. If he has a struggle with it, and keeps going back to it, and fighting it, then accountability can come in of the brethren.
- He should be accountable to someone. If he doesn't hear the one or two more, then at that point, the assembly, to the extent we're able to accomplish that in this age, can be brought in.
- That's how it's supposed to be handled. It's dealing with bringing a person to repentance. If he's willing to turn away from those things, there should at least be a willingness to be accountable in his computer time and so on.
Q. Am I wrong to leave my house to escape the things going on?
EliYah:
- If you're not of age, I would say you should not leave. You don't have to sit in front of the computer and expose yourself to those things. I think that was the question.
- We do have one more phone call we can take, and then we will take prayer requests. If you have any prayer needs, please let us know, and we will offer those prayers up to Yahweh at the conclusion of the broadcast today. You can go ahead and start now, if you'd like to offer your prayer requests.
- I believe we have Mary from New York on the phone. Shabbat Shalom to you.
Mary:
- Shabbat Shalom. I have a question. I was a former Jehovah Witness, of which I am no longer. I am a believer in Yahushua and Yahweh. About the blood, how do you feel about that? They won't take blood. How do you view that?
EliYah:
- I'm very thankful I've not been in that circumstance. To be honest with you, I'm not really sure how to deal with that question. Yahweh does say not to eat blood.
Mary:
- Right.
EliYah:
- And pumping into your veins certainly is taking the blood of another person and putting it into your body, even though you're not physically eating it. Myself, I would do all I can to avoid taking the blood of another person. There are things that can be done.
- I understand you can give blood and have it saved somewhere, so that you can use it later. I think that would be a reasonable solution.
Mary:
- Yeah, that's the way I feel, but they don't even feel that way. They still feel like you're taking blood. It's your own blood, so I don't see anything...
EliYah:
- If you have periodontal disease or something, you're drinking blood, because your teeth bleed, your gums bleed.
Mary:
- Right.
EliYah:
- Not that we would go around drinking our blood every day.
Mary:
- No, I understand.
EliYah:
- There's no way to avoid it.
Mary:
- I have a hard time with that myself. I think it's a matter of your conscience. I'm not going to drink a cup of blood, but I think it's a matter of conscience. God--if you could save someone's life, I think you would be--I don't think God would have a problem with that.
- That's just my question. I have been out of that organization. I feel you need to have a relationship with God and Yahushua, not a relationship with a religion. There's sometimes issues I still haven't completely come to terms with. I listen to you, and I'm all over the websites listening to different things. I believe in the holy days. I didn't believe in that.
- I don't believe Sunday is His day of worship. I believe in the Sabbath. I'm learning as I go along. I was just curious on that particular subject. Most people I speak to don't feel that there's anything wrong with taking blood. I'm iffy on that.
EliYah:
- Yeah.
Mary:
- I was just wondering your view on it.
EliYah:
- Yeah, I just wouldn't really feel comfortable with it myself.
Mary:
- Same here.
EliYah:
- I kind of wonder if the life is in the blood and somebody else's life is inside us, it just doesn't seem--if we can give blood and have it in a bank somewhere to be used, then it seems like a reasonable solution.
Mary:
- Sure.
EliYah:
- There are alternatives, but I would avoid it all costs, I think, myself.
Mary:
- There was something else I wanted to ask you. Even if it's your child and you know you're a clean person, don't smoke, not promiscuous, and your child happens to have the same blood type as you, I don't think there's a problem with giving them blood from your body, because your child lived in your body--not that blood was exchanged.
- It's like a fine line there, a gray area. I don't think God would want you to let your child die, if you had the opportunity to save it.
EliYah:
- Mm-hm. Well, we all have our conscience and the will of Yahweh we need to seek on that. It's hard to say. That's one of the tougher questions. I'm not sure if it matters, if you're related to them. I'm not sure if it matters. I wouldn't drink my child's blood, and I wouldn't want him to drink my blood.
Mary:
- No, I agree.
EliYah:
- I don't know if, even though we are of the same blood, we put it that way, even when a woman is pregnant, their blood is not exchanged.
Mary:
- Right.
EliYah:
- Between the two.
Mary:
- Yes, I know. Yes. That's a tough one.
EliYah:
- Good questions, and I understand the position of the Jehovah Witness religion on that and why they feel it should be avoided, and it makes sense to me. As far as your own blood, I don't know if that would be a big issue.
Mary:
- Right. They say, too, they don't believe in transplants. At one point, they didn't believe in transplants, and then at another point they did. Organs live in blood, a lot of them.
EliYah:
- Right.
Mary:
- Like your heart. Your heart pumps the blood. I see a lot of hypocrisy in that, because now they're allowed to get transplants. A heart transplant, or an organ, or a liver, whatever, that particular organ has blood. I think, I guess, it's a matter of you pray over it, and God give you the answer somehow.
EliYah:
- I've heard some pretty bizarre stories of people who have had heart transplants.
Mary:
- I've heard some, too, yes.
EliYah:
- Them having desires for things they didn't have before.
Mary:
- Yes.
EliYah:
- Just really weird things.
Mary:
- Right.
EliYah:
- I think I would just trust in Yahweh in that area.
Mary:
- Yeah, and hope we don't get that test.
EliYah:
- Right.
Mary:
- Okay, thank you. Richard is the one who gave me your number.
EliYah:
- All right.
Mary:
- I'm going to have you on Insight on the Word. You're going to come on.
EliYah:
- Yes.
Mary:
- Right, okay.
EliYah:
- Yeah, we've still got that on schedule here.
Mary:
- Yes. So thank you very much, and you have a good Sabbath.
EliYah:
- And you, as well. Shabbat Shalom.
Mary:
- Okay, bye.
EliYah:
- Sister Mary from New York, a Jehovah Witness survivor. I say survivor, because that's exactly what it is. Survivor stories. People get pretty adamant against the Jehovah Witness organization, calling it a cult and lot of these other things.
- But mainstream Christianity, a lot of denominations and things, they're doing a lot of the same things. They're following man, rather than Yahweh. What's the difference? That's basically what Jehovah Witnesses are doing. They're following an organization created by men, rather than Yahweh.
- When it comes down to our faith, our faith needs to be in Yahweh and Yahweh alone, and we have to have the mindset of it doesn't matter what any man says.
- What Yahweh says is all that matters. There's a danger, not just in Jehovah Witness religion in that area, but even in any faith, any Christianity, even people who keep feasts, and sacred name.
- If we're following man, then we are endangering ourselves spiritually--not unless the man is following Yahweh--but you have to put Yahweh first and not man.
- Even Paul said, "Imitate me, as I imitate Messiah." As long as man is imitating Messiah, that's fine. He needs to be imitating Messiah.
- A lot of people focus--they say they're following Messiah, but they're really in their heart, they're not. They're following men. Danger, danger! Don't follow me either, please. I am subject to error. Check with Yahweh and check with scripture.
Q. Mike and Carry and family says, need scriptures for proof they're required to follow Torah.
EliYah:
- I would encourage you to look over the website, EliYah.com, if you'd like. I've got a study there called, "Is Paul Anti-Law?" That's usually a pretty good place to start. A lot of times, people try to use Paul's writings to do away with the law of Yahweh.
- Then there would be other questions that follow it up. Colossians 2 and other places. There's some study on those chapters, as well. I think that is all the questions at this time.
- Continue to offer your prayer requests, and we will get them collected, thanks to my daughter, Kara, who does a good job with that. She's my assistant for the broadcast. Praise Yahweh. I couldn't do it without her, to be honest with you. She takes the calls, and it's been a big help.
- We're going to listen to a song here from the library, this one from David Loden. He's the writer. I don't know who sings it. I can't remember his name. What is it? Jonathan Settel. Another helpful answer from my daughter, Kara. "Ram Ve'nisa HaMashiach."
- [Music Ministry: "Ram Ve'nisa HaMashiach," "Yom Kippur," "I'm Nothing Without You," "Lead Me to the River of Your Healing Waters"]
EliYah:
- And may Yahweh fill you with His Ruach HaKodesh, His Holy Spirit, as you go out once more into the work week ahead to glorify His name and draw all men to Himself. May Yahweh bless and keep you the remainder of this Shabbat. It's good to be with you once again. I enjoyed it. We love you guys, every last one of you. Shabbat Shalom to your home.
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