03/21/2009 Comments, Questions & Answers Transcript


Today's Study Title: "Introduction to Keeping Passover"


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EliYah:
- At this time in the broadcast, if you have a question or a comment, feel free to share that here in the room. I like to open up phone lines normally at this time, but I'm not able to do that today.
- So we're kind of limited to the chat room, but we're willing to do that. If you have any questions about this feast, or comments, or just if you have a psalm, or a word of exhortation, please say on.

Q. What exactly is leaven?

EliYah:
- Leaven is something that would cause bread to rise. We see that yeast obviously would be one thing that causes bread to rise. Baking soda is another thing. We just want to, to the best of our abilities--some people might say just get rid of the yeast and not worry about anything else.
- If that's the case, you could make bread and have fully what looks like leavened bread by using baking soda or baking powders and different things. I just don't feel right about trying to find a loophole in Yahweh's Law.
- We do our best. I'm not saying we're perfect at it or anything, but we just do our best to get rid of the leaven. We get rid of our baking soda toothpaste. We use it up. Put it that way. Anciently, it was a little easier. The actual word leaven means sour dough. What they used was a little dough ball full of leavening, and they would put that dough ball next to the bread.
- The yeast from that dough ball would enter the bread and cause it to rise, as it fed on the sugars. Today we've become more sophisticated, and things are more complicated. They just had to sweep out their house and take the sourdough ball and throw it away.
- Today, with all the boxed foods that you buy, you've got to check all of them and look at the ingredients. You have different things. The ingredients are everywhere from toothpaste to tartar sauce. There's all kinds of things. We tend to do the best we can in getting rid of leavening agents. Someone asked about 1 Corinthians 11:28. Yes, we must be humble in the sight of Yahweh.

1Corinthians 11:28 - But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Corinthians 11:31 - For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
- It's a very serious matter to be partaking of the Passover. It's not just a flippant little thing that you don't really treat heavily. We have to give it the weight that it deserves. Very serious words there, if you really think about it.
1Corinthians 11:30 - For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
- This is very serious. We want to eat and drink these things in humility and with soberness and somberness of mind, being of the right attitude.

Q. But we should not be ashamed of it, right?

EliYah:
- No, we don't have to be ashamed, necessarily, if we have spent time already in reflection, and we've examined ourselves and confessed our sins and repented and turned away from them. We don't have to walk around feeling condemned. But at the same time, we want to give it the weight it deserves and not just treat it lightly.
- I wish that you could call in today. That would be a real treat to hear the Warrens and everybody singing. But being that I'm in Israel, it's not exactly possible right now.

Q. Can you talk about the foot washing?

EliYah:
- We are going to talk about that next week. That's something we do that's part of our preparation. We do the foot washing, and it is a time of seriousness that we do take seriously. We're going to talk more about it.
- Can you hear me? I'm in a cave. Well, actually, I was in a cave earlier this week, but I'm not in a cave now. I was in, I think, one of David's caves, which wasn't very deep.
- Just a little internet trouble there. I think the program we're using to pipe into the conference room dropped the connection, but we're in good shape now.
- If there are any other comments or questions, feel free to ask any questions about the land of Israel. I'd be more than happy to share with you what I've found here. I'll be posting more pictures, as time goes along. I'm planning on sharing more pictures, and with the pictures I'll explain what they are, so you know what you're looking at.
- I've also taken about six hours worth of video of the land, different places we went. That was something I could add to the website, possibly. We'll have to see how that goes.

Q. What type of head coverings do the women wear there?

EliYah:
- They don't wear bonnets here, but it's wrapped close to the head. It's not quite as intense as the Arabic headcoverings, the Islamic women. I don't know how you would describe it. It's wrapped on the head. The Orthodox Jews, their women don't wear traditional head coverings. They actually wear wigs. They shave their head bald, and then they were a wig over top and call that a head covering.
- Not all the Orthodox, but most of them. I am not joking. That is what they do. I am not joking. So they shave their head completely, and then they put a wig over top, so it doesn't look like they're wearing a head covering, when I guess they think they are. It's just one of the strange ways of a loophole in the law kind of thing.
- It was kind of interesting, because the way they look at it, more like an ordinance, like we might look at a United States law. If you can find some way out of it, that's okay, some loophole or something. But I think Yahweh wants us to try to follow the Spirit behind it.
- I could sit here and criticize Judaism all day long, but that's not really what I'm trying to do. We've got our own problems. That's just one of the things they do I don't agree with. There are lots of Israeli women who wear sort of what we call a bandana but not quite like a bandana.
- I don't know if you've ever seen pictures of my wife and daughter. Sometimes my wife and daughter wear a bonnet, but when they don't, they wear a wrapped head covering, and that's pretty much what we see here.

Q. Could you list the ingredients?

EliYah:
- Yes, I think I have a better list somewhere, maybe on the website. I'm going to take a look here. Let me see if I can find it. I thought there was one more ingredient we discovered last year. I can't remember what it was. I think our sister in North Carolina might remember.
- The ingredients I have are baking soda, also called sodium bicarbonate, baking powder, tartaric acid, cream of tartar, anything containing yeast in the ingredients. Those are some things that can cause bread to rise.

Q. Is foot washing done on Passover night?

EliYah:
- Yes. That's one of the things that help our hearts for partaking of the Passover. It's an act of humility, of lowering ourselves. That's when we do the washing of the feet.
- If you're wondering what kind of service we do for Passover--I'm not claiming to be Mr. Authority on all this--if you're wondering what our Seder looks like, the Passover Service, if you go to EliYah.com/PassoverService.html, you can find and read the thing we do. If you want to follow the same, you can print it out and do that, as well.

Q. Isn't foot washing servile work, and didn't Yahushua give Judas leavened bread before he left? The disciples thought he was going to buy things for Passover.

EliYah:
- Yeah, it seems it would be. I think, as far as buying things for Passover, it seemed like that would be an issue. But, of course, that wasn't really the beginning of Unleavened Bread either. When buying and selling is forbidden, that would be starting on the 15th of Aviv. As far as foot washing, would that be servile work? I don't think anybody is getting paid or anything for that.
- I think it has to do with business, and there's no business going on there.
- Once again, we're showing different views of when to eat the Passover. Some say on the night of the 14th, some say on the night of the 15th. If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry about it yet. If you're just starting to keep Passover, it's a very, very intense study. Pray about it. Let Yahweh lead you.

Q. Is wine prohibited at this time of year?

EliYah:
- It depends on whether you believe wine contains leavening in it and whether it's inappropriate leavening. I've not heard of anybody using wine to leaven bread. I think the yeast that may be in there is all dead. Yahushua either used wine or grape juice. We typically use grape juice to partake and represent His blood.
- People don't use toothpaste in leavened bread either. I wonder what would happen if you tried to do that, because it does contain some leavening in it; whereas even if you put the wine in, it wouldn't do anything. It's all dead yeast. But if you put the baking soda in there, even if it's in toothpaste, I think it would probably work. I don't know. I could be wrong.
- I don't know if that answers your question or not. Try making a loaf of bread with some toothpaste with baking soda in it. It might work.
- Any other questions or comments, words of encouragement, exhortation, psalms? If not, we'd like to move into the prayer request portion of the broadcast. Submit your prayer requests at this time.

Q. Why is it you use grapes for the wine? Do you disagree with fermented wine?

EliYah:
- I'm not really sure whether it's wine or grape juice. I'm pretty sure we're okay if it's just pure grapes. He just said fruit of the vine. Some believe it has to be wine. Some say it has to be grape juice. I'm not sure it has to be either one, but I just use grape juice.
- I think one year we tried the wine. I just can't get past the modern methods of winemaking, which is different. They add sulfites in it. They spice it with bunches of sugar to increase the alcoholic content. Things like that I have more of a problem with than somebody using wine.
- I just don't think sulfites are intended to be representative of His blood. I've not been able to find any wine without it.

Q. Is dead yeast okay?

EliYah:
- Well, if it can't leaven bread, I suppose you might say that's okay. One thing we do know, Yahushua, we see holding the fruit of the vine there as something to partake of on Passover, along with unleavened bread. Sulfites are something that's supposed to preserve the wine somehow. I'm not really sure in which way it's done.

Q. What was a sop, and why was it dipped and then given to Judas? Common practice in Yahushua's day to give everyone sop.

EliYah:
- It's common practice even today. In fact, last night we were eating chala bread, and then we dipped it in oil and hummus, and the hummus is a plant that grows around here, I guess, so we partook of the hummus and the oil. It actually tastes very good.

Q. If the original word meant sour dough, does baking soda make dough sour?

EliYah:
- The sourdough is what causes the bread to rise, and since baking soda also causes bread to rise, I don't feel comfortable with finding a loophole. I wouldn't put baking soda in bread today during the Feast of Unleavened Bread, because basically it would be doing the same thing. There is living yeast, and there is yeast that is no longer living.

Q. Do you mean hyssop?

EliYah:
- Yeah, I thought it was sopping of bread into some oil, but I can check that. John 13:27, the sop. The derivation of 5597, crumb or morsel, as if rubbed off a mouthful. So it looks like a piece of bread that's been ripped away, a portion or morsel of bread.
- That's how they eat bread here. They don't even cut it with a knife. Chala bread, you pull it apart with your fingers. I don't see any example of that word originating in hyssop.
- They moisten the bread with some kind of oil. Here it's olive oil and hummus. It tastes pretty good. It doesn't taste like the hummus in the United States.

Q. Are you saying they dip the bread in hyssop?

EliYah:
- I've not heard that. I could be incorrect. Let me look in the scripture program I have. I'd have to do some more research. Maybe you have researched it some more.

Q. Netzarim asked a question regarding Hebrews 6:4.

Hebrews 6:4 - For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,

EliYah:
- I don't know what your question is. If you'd like to re-ask or ask your question regarding the verse, I will try to look into it. Meanwhile, please continue your prayer requests. My daughter is collecting them for me. Then we'll close today's meeting out with prayer.
- Next week, I am anticipating another Israeli broadcast. We will probably be heading back on the 17th of this month. We've got another ten days. Wherever I'm at next week, I'm expecting and hoping I will have music.
- I found somebody who has a mixer, and so I'm going to ask them if I could borrow that for a few hours. If I have a mixer, I can make it work. I didn't bring my mixer. I didn't think I would need it.

Q. What do Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26 mean?

Hebrews 6:4 - For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Hebrews 6:5 - and have tasted the good word of YAHWEH and the powers of the age to come,
Hebrews 6:6 - if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of YAHWEH, and put Him to an open shame.
Hebrews 10:26 - For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

EliYah:
- I believe the condition being spoken of here is identical to the condition of a man who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit, because we see here what's being described is that it's impossible to renew a person like that again to repentance. They're not going to want to repent. It's impossible.
- If we have reached that condition, then we're in big trouble, but we're not going to care either, because the Spirit of Yahweh has been blasphemed. Since the Spirit of Yahweh has been blasphemed, we know in John 6:44 it says:

John 6:44 - No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
- No man can come to Yahweh, unless Yahweh draws him by His Spirit.
- If we have blasphemed the Spirit, then the Spirit is not going to draw us, because He's not going to lead us to Yahweh, to Yahushua, because we have sin in our life we can't be forgiven for, so why would the Spirit of Yahweh lead us to Messiah and lead us to repentance if we can't be forgiven for it because the Spirit of Yahweh has been blasphemed?
- The Spirit would not lead us to Yahushua if we were in that condition, because we can't be forgiven. That's also the kind of condition the book of Hebrews speaks of, as well, as someone who can't be forgiven. It's impossible.
- There's only one sin, according to Yahushua, that cannot be forgiven men. Every other sin can be forgiven men, except this one, and that's the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
- I think that happens through a continued life of willfully practicing sin and not caring, just totally gone. If right now we care that we've sinned--every one of us it says in 1 John 1:8-9, we all have sin, but we confess our sins to Yahweh and receive cleansing and forgiveness.
- But if we reach this condition where we don't care anymore, we just keep on doing it. That's a very dangerous condition to be in. There are people out there like that. They will never repent. The Spirit of Yahweh--they'll never listen. The Spirit of Yahweh is not drawing them, is not leading them to Him, because they can't be forgiven, even if they tried.
- That is how I see those verses. They all seem to be speaking of the same thing. I have met so many people who, in their lowest moments and most difficult times have wondered if they've blasphemed the Holy Spirit and can't be forgiven. That's a pretty awful thing to think about.
- But if we care, and we repent, and turn away in our heart, and don't want to do that thing that we've done, then that is a sign we are being renewed to repentance. But if we're not being renewed to repentance, that's when we're in trouble.
- Only Yahweh, most of the time, Yahweh can show us by His Spirit. Yahweh is the one who is truly the judge of that, of who is in that condition and who is not.
- I would say it looked like Saul, King Saul reached that condition. So the Spirit departed from him. Yahweh rejected Saul, and he never did renew himself to repentance. That's a pretty good example. He didn't get it. I think Esau would be another example. He sought repentance with tears, but it wasn't genuine repentance. He must have reached that condition, as well.
- I think some of the scribes and Pharisees were in that condition, as well. I think the scribes and Pharisees, the fact they were calling Yahweh's Spirit a demon, it was out of an attitude of blasphemy.
- They knew that was the Spirit of Yahweh. Yet, in their Saul-like attitude, seeking to please men more than Yahweh, they blasphemed the Spirit in their hearts, and they were pretty much gone, many of them. It doesn't name who did what, but some from among the Pharisees and scribes.

Q. What if someone said, "Yahweh, leave me alone."

EliYah:
- I would say no, not necessarily. It all depends on what's going on in the heart. That's really what matters. Words are one thing, but what's going on in the hearts, the motivation, the intent behind the words has a lot to do with whether we've reached that condition.
- I look into Ezekiel. I find a promise there that I think we can always fall back on. In Ezekiel 18, read through that chapter. He's saying if a man turns away from his sin, and he starts to walk in righteousness, he will be forgiven, and the former things will not be remembered against him.
- If a man who is walking uprightly turns away from righteousness and walks in sin, the former things, the righteous things he's done won't be remembered either. The thing is, at any time, as long as our heart beats, and we care, and we want to serve Yahweh and want to do what's right, we're being renewed again to repentance.
- We have a promise that those former things will not be remembered against us. We'll be forgiven.

Q. How do you handle a situation where you're trying to live a set apart life and trying to be Torah and scripture obedient, but you don't tell anyone else they have to do what you do, but they perceive you as being of a religious spirit, someone not to fellowship with?

EliYah:
- Well, if that's the way they feel, there's nothing much you can do about it, except to communicate you're not claiming to be anything great or anything. You're just trying to please your Father in heaven. Just humble yourself.
- A lot of times, that's one of the accusations the enemy will come up with is if you're doing something that another person is not doing, to relieve their own conscious they'll just say, "Well, you're trying to be a legalist." Some way to make themselves feel better. It's just typical things.
- I'm not commenting on any particular situation. I'm just going by what you're telling me.
- We've got some more prayer requests coming in. While that's happening, I guess we can talk a little bit more about what we've experienced here in Ha Eretz. It's kind of nice. I've been able to sharpen my Hebrew skills a little bit. All the road signs are in three languages: Hebrew, Arabic, English.
- When you find a road sign, they're telling you this particular town is this way or that way, I like to try to read it in Hebrew first. And since they don't have vowel points, you have to guess the vowel points. I try to figure out what it's saying and confirm or deny whether I was correct by reading the English.
- Actually, sometimes the English version they have listed underneath is not the same pronunciation of what's actually in the Hebrew.
- You'll notice they are more accurate in the signs. Instead of Bethel, it's Beit El. It's not Bethel. It's Beit El. They are more correct in their phonetics, sort of like the Scriptures version a lot of us read from. It's more correct in their transliteration of Hebrew names.
- The road signs here are also more correct, which I found interesting that they don't follow the messed-up King James names like Jacob and Isaac. It's Yitzak, Yaakov, and they're actually correct in how they transliterate most of these. There's a few that are off. But for the most part, they're pretty correct.
- The Sea of Galilee, I was reading in an archeological periodical that the town of Capernaum which we're going to be visiting, hopefully, tomorrow is quite a ways from the current level of the Sea of Galilee, but originally the Sea of Galilee was up close to Capernaum, much closer than it is today.
- The Sea of Galilee was significantly larger then than it is today. The Sea of Galilee has dropped down quite a bit. Even right now it's pretty low. I guess they say the snows and rains have a lot to do with the level of the Sea.
- It looks like we've still got prayer requests coming in. Let me see if I can go back to some of my pictures here and find some things.
- This morning, when I went out to the Sea of Galilee to look at the sunrise, the birds were just everywhere. Last night I went down there, and I tried to find a good place to meditate and pray, and there was just too much commotion going on. The whole boardwalk area was full of people and noise. You couldn't find a good quiet place.
- But this morning I went down there, and it was just me and a few others out there. That was a blessing to be able to enjoy that and get some quiet time there on the Sea.
- We went out on the boat on the Sea of Galilee, and we were able to see just the top of Mount Hermon. Mount Hermon is mentioned in scripture, particularly one of my favorite scriptures, Psalm 133. It says:

Psalms 133:1 - Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
Psalms 133:2 - It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
Psalms 133:3 - As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there YAHWEH commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.
- That dew of Hermon, I've asked a few people around here what that is, but I can't find anything clear. Where I'm at right now is a safe place. I would say Tiberius, Ariel, the cities we're staying in are probably safer than cities in the United States of the same size. I'm not exaggerating.
- You can be driving along a road in Israel, and there are bus areas where people are waiting on a bus, and there will usually be three or four people there asking to hitch a ride, getting a ride from one place to another, as opposed to riding a bus.
- Many of those who do that are young girls requesting a ride. You just don't see that in the United States. They'll be walking along the road at dark by themselves down a major four-lane highway. They're not worried. There's not a major rapist problem around here. People are more moral here in these areas than they are in the United States.
- You don't find that back home, people walking along the road and wanting to hitchhike at 10:00 at night along a major thoroughfare.
- It's perceived to be more dangerous here because of the terrorism and suicide bombings and political things like that. I believe it is safer here in Israel than it is back home. Now I wouldn't say my county where I live, necessarily, but the cities, I believe, are safer.
- I don't think I'm wrong about that. I haven't checked the crime data or anything. That's one of the things I liked. Where we're staying, actually, in Ariel, it's a pretty good community, even though they did have the one bombing happen right across from us.
- Those are all political type stuff. It's not getting robbed, or mugged, or whatever. Thank you for your concern. I really thought the same thing, that I'd really have to watch my back. But when you're around the Arab areas, yes. The Arabs are like separated. They can't go in certain areas of Israel like this.
- They just don't. They're kept in their cities. And the Jews are in their cities, and the Arabs are in theirs.
- You can tell the difference between the two, because the Arab cities have white buildings with flat roofs, and they have black water containers on top of the roof. Israelite villages have white water containers on their roofs and red roofs made of clay tile.
- You can just tell by looking at a village up on a mountain somewhere, what kind of village it is, whether it's an Arab village or an Israelite village. I just don't really understand why the Arabs are complaining, because they have tons and tons of villages everywhere, and they have plenty of room to expand those villages.
- There's nothing stopping them. There's plenty of expansion room. Even Nablus, which is just over the hill from where we were pruning vines, the overflow of the city is overflowing, and they are expanding. So I don't know. I think a lot of it is all about perception in the media and the image the Arabs are trying to portray as the Israelites being the terrorists.
- It's one thing to be in a war, and there being innocent bystanders killed, but you're aiming for the militants, but then on the other side there's perfect intention to kill innocent people. There's a difference between the two sides. I don't see a moral equivalent there.
- Koldebash says, "A few years ago, I committed a sin, and I know Yahweh has forgiven me, but I can't seem to get rid of the guilt. I torment myself every day. Not my choice, it's just that everywhere I go, I'm confronted with it. Name brands in stores, restaurants remind me of this sin. How can I let go of this guilt and feel peace?"

EliYah:
- Faith is the first word that comes to mind. If Yahweh has removed our sins from us, as far as the East is from the West, then we need to recognize that by faith. In the same way we believe Genesis 1:1, "Elohim created the heavens and the earth," we also believe 1 John 1:9, that we are cleansed from any sins we have confessed. We pray Yahweh will free us from the guilt we feel.
- But you know, I can say to some extent that there's a healthy amount of that in Paul. He recognized he's the least of the apostles, because he did partake in and stood by as a witness of the death of Stephen and was seeking to kill believers.
- There's a certain amount you remember, but it's not good to continue to feel guilty.
- One thing you can do is ask Yahweh if He has chastened you for that. If Yahweh has chastened you for that particular wrong, then you have gotten the chastening that should cleanse you of guilt. If He hasn't chastened you, ask Him to. That may sound a little silly, but I do believe that chastening will cleanse guilt. At that point, we feel we've gotten the thing we deserved.
- We got the chastening; therefore, our guilt is removed.
- That's a parent/child thing. Our children walk around and feel guilty until they get chastened for whatever wrong it was they've done. Sometimes we can learn from chastening, too.

Q. Do noodles have leavening?

EliYah:
- I've not found that. Maybe somebody else has. My wife is more inclined in these areas of the food. That will conclude our broadcast for this day.
- Yahweh bless you all, and be with you all, and strengthen you this coming week into the week to come and the remainder of this Shabbat over there. I certainly miss a lot of the people back home, especially my family. I love you all, and I miss you all greatly. I'm looking forward to coming home and sharing the things Yahweh is teaching me here.
- Yahweh be with you all. We love you all. Have a blessed week. Next week again from Yisrael, Yahweh willing. I am not sick. I don't have the sniffles. I am doing just fine. Praise Yahweh. All is blessed, and all is well here with me. Thank you all.
- Pray for our sheep. Please do pray for our sheep. We're having a little problem. I'll let KolaYah explain it to you. I'm looking forward to sharing more pictures. I'll be uploading in the next day or two. Be on the lookout for that. Shavuot tov, erev tov, and all the other tovs to go with it. Shabbat Shalom to your homes.

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