10/12/2001 Sabbath Meeting Transcript


"Being Holy as Yahweh is Holy"


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Berean - Our Father, ALLMighty YAHWEH
Berean - Thank You for the blessings that You have given us.
Berean - Thank You for the fellowship of brethren and the nurishment of Your Word.
Berean - Thank You for gving us Your Feast days, that we may learn Your will, and grow closer to You.
Berean - Father, we ask that You continue to bring us closer to You, and closer to each other.
Berean - We ask You for cleansing and guidance.
Berean - Protection and strength.
Berean - Father, we ask that You open our eyes continually to the necessity of learning Your will, and Your ways.
Berean - Father, please help us to walk therein.
Berean - We ask that in all things in our lives, that Your will be done, above all else.
Berean - Please give us the healing we desperately need, and a strong thirst for Your Word.
Berean - We ask everything in Your Son's name, Yahshua
Berean - Ahmein

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

In recent weeks, we have been examining what the scriptures have to say in regards to holiness

Last week, we left off with a scripture in the book of Hebrews that gives clear indication of Yahweh's requirement of Holiness/separateness.

In context, the scripture indicates that we are chastened by Yahweh so that we may be partakers of His holiness:

Hebrews 12:7 - If you endure chastening, YAHWEH deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

Hebrews 12:8 - But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

Hebrews 12:9 - Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

Hebrews 12:10 - For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.

Hebrews 12:11 - Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

Hebrews 12:12 - Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,

Hebrews 12:13 - and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be [dislocated], but rather be healed.

Hebrews 12:14 - Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see YAHWEH:

Notice that we will not see Yahweh without following holiness. Holiness is apparently very important to understand!

We are among the things that are to be holy unto Yahweh. We are to be holy as He is holy. Therefore, our actions must also be holy.

We must be careful not to maintain the standard of holiness He has set for us.

We must be careful to maintain the standard of holiness He has set for us.

For instance, we are to perfect holiness by not being unequally yoked with unclean things:

2Corinthians 6:14 - Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?

2Corinthians 6:15 - Or what harmony has the Messiah with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?

2Corinthians 6:16 - Or what agreement has the temple of YAHWEH with idols? For we are the temple of the living Elohim; just as YAHWEH said, "I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My people.

2Corinthians 6:17 - "Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate," says YAHWEH. "And do not touch what is unclean; and I will welcome you.

2Corinthians 6:18 - "And I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me," says YAHWEH Almighty.

2Corinthians 7:1 - Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of YAHWEH.

We are a new creation, a new man that is created in true holiness.

Ephesians 4:20 - But you have not so learned the Messiah,

Ephesians 4:21 - if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Yahushua:

Ephesians 4:22 - that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,

Ephesians 4:23 - and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,

Ephesians 4:24 - and that you put on the new man which was created according to Elohim, in true righteousness and holiness.

We must presented ourselves to Yahweh as a holy, living and acceptable sacrifice:

Romans 12:1 - I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of YAHWEH, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto YAHWEH, which is your reasonable service.

Romans 12:2 - And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of YAHWEH.

Let's put on this new man therefore, and be diligent to be pure by walking in righteousness and obedience, for walking in righteousness and obedience brings a person to holiness:

Romans 6:17 - But YAHWEH be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Romans 6:18 - Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:19 - I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

Romans 6:20 - For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Romans 6:21 - What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

Romans 6:22 - But now being made free from sin, and become servants to YAHWEH, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of YAHWEH is eternal life through Yahushua the Messiah our Saviour.

We should not be servants of sin, but rather, servants to righteousness unto holiness.

The Torah/law defines what is righteous and what is not. It defines what is holy and what is not. Sin is transgression of the Torah/law:

1John 3:4 - Whoever commits sin trangresses also the law, for sin is the transgression of the law.

In fact, the Torah is in itself holy:

Romans 7:12 - Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

The Torah teaches us what is holy and what is unholy, so that those who do not know might avoid that which is unholy, profane and wrong:.

1Timothy 1:5 - Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

1Timothy 1:6 - From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;

1Timothy 1:7 - Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

1Timothy 1:9 - Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the wicked and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

1Timothy 1:10 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1Timothy 1:11 - According to the glorious gospel of the blessed Elohim, which was committed to my trust.

We must not deny the power of holiness and righteousness:

2Timothy 3:1 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2Timothy 3:2 - For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

2Timothy 3:3 - Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

2Timothy 3:4 - Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of YAHWEH;

2Timothy 3:5 - Having a form of reverence, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

There are things within us that can defile us too. We are defiled by bitterness within us:

Hebrews 12:14 - Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see YAHWEH:

Hebrews 12:15 - looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the favor of YAHWEH; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;

Hebrews 12:16 - lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.

We husbands should do well to heed this, for we are commanded to not be bitter toward our wives:

Colossians 3:19 - Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

This brings us to another important point.

While it is true that we must each be holy as Yahweh is holy, not all have the same roles to fulfill before Yahweh.

As previously mentioned, priests had a different standard of holiness than the common man.

The High Priest among the sons of Aaron had an even higher standard.

Also, as we discussed last summer in our study on family, women sometimes have a different role to fulfill than men. For instance:

1Timothy 2:11 - Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

1Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Timothy 2:13 - For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

1Timothy 2:14 - And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1Timothy 2:15 - Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Notice that a woman must continue in faith, charity and holiness with sobriety (self control).

What are some attributes of holy women?

Titus 2:3 - The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

Titus 2:4 - That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

Titus 2:5 - To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of YAHWEH be not blasphemed.

A holy woman will not falsely accuse, nor linger long at the wine. But she will love her husband and her children.

She will be discreet (discerning good and evil), chaste (pure), good, and obedient to her husband, lest the word of Yahweh be blasphemed.

But what if she is led by a husband that is not obedient to the word of Yahweh?

1Peter 3:1 - Wives, likewise, [be] submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives,

1Peter 3:2 - when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear.

1Peter 3:3 - Do not let your adornment be merely outward--arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel--

1Peter 3:4 - rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of YAHWEH.

1Peter 3:5 - For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in YAHWEH also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands,

1Peter 3:6 - as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him master, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror.

Holy women will put on holy apparel. The hidden, incorruptible heart, even the adorning of a meek and quiet spirit as the holy women of old adorned themselves because they trusted in Yahweh.

Such a woman, possessing belief and trust in Yahweh, will be sanctified in her behavior, that her husband might be sanctified and her children holy:

1Corinthians 7:14 - For the unbelieving husband is set apart by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is set apart by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

We must all be holy as Yahweh is holy.

Mothers, Fathers and children of Yahweh

We must have a holy seed, not like the exiles of Judah who purposely took in wives who were foreign to the belief in Yahweh:

Ezra 9:1 - Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

Ezra 9:2 - For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.

Was the problem that their physical seed was defiled?

Notice that it says the children of Israel took for themselves wives of the Egyptians. But the nations forbidden in the Torah are:

Deuteronomy 7:1 - When YAHWEH thy Elohim shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;

Deuteronomy 7:2 - And when YAHWEH thy Elohim shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

Deuteronomy 7:3 - Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

We read here that the seven forbidden nation are the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

Why then would Yahweh be displeased that the people of Israel took wives of the Ammonites, Moabites and Egyptians?

Let's remember the purpose of the commandment:

Deuteronomy 7:4 - For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other elohim: so will the anger of YAHWEH be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Yahweh knew the tendency here, that their children would turn away from Yahweh. Yahweh seeks righteous, holy offspring, children of Elohim:

Malachi 2:13 - And this have ye done again, covering the altar of YAHWEH with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.

Malachi 2:14 - Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because YAHWEH hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.

Malachi 2:15 - And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a seed of Elohim. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.

Malachi 2:16 - For YAHWEH, the Elohim of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith YAHWEH of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

Therefore, it is not so much the genealogy of a person that Yahweh is concerned about, but a believer marrying an unbelieving and idolatrous spouse. Otherwise, Joseph was wrong for marrying an Egyptian (Gen 41:45) and Boaz was wrong for marrying Ruth, the Moabitess (Ruth 4:13).

This is not in contradiction to the earlier scripture, which is discussing a situation where someone became a believer while already being married to an unbeliever:

1Corinthians 7:10 - And unto the married I command, yet not I, but YAHWEH, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

1Corinthians 7:11 - But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

1Corinthians 7:12 - But to the rest speak I, not YAHWEH: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

1Corinthians 7:13 - And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

1Corinthians 7:14 - For the unbelieving husband is set apart by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is set apart by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

1Corinthians 7:15 - But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but YAHWEH hath called us to peace.

1Corinthians 7:16 - For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

1Corinthians 7:18 - Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.

So we see an encouragement by Paul to try and remain in the situation we were in while called, for Yahweh has sanctified the spouse and made the children holy... and it may be that the spouse will be saved.

But if a person married an unbeliever while being a believer (who is to be holy as Yahweh is holy), this would be wrong and it is likened unto giving that which is holy to the dogs!

Matthew 7:6 - Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

We are to be holy unto Yahweh; we should not give ourselves in marriage to the dogs!

According to scripture, the whole earth is defiled when there is a disregard for Yahweh's covenant:

Isaiah 24:4 - The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

Isaiah 24:5 - The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Isaiah 24:6 - Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Indeed, we see today that the earth is truly defiled. Men have transgressed the laws of Yahweh (they say what matters is the heart), changed the ordinances of Yahweh (like keeping Easter rather than Passover) and broken the everlasting covenant (they say it is abolished).

But we must rightly discern what is holy and what is not, what is clean and what is not.

We must keep ourselves unspotted from the world

But we must rightly discern what is holy and what is not, what is clean and what is not.

James 1:27 - Pure and undefiled religion before YAHWEH the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

Yahushua, when disputing with the Pharisees over whether it was lawful to eat with unwashed hands, commented:

Matthew 15:17 - Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

Matthew 15:18 - But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

Matthew 15:19 - For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Matthew 15:20 - These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

So we see that evil thoughts defile a man. Murders, adulteries and fornications, thefts, false witnesses and blasphemies also defile a man.

This should be a lesson also for us, that we not go beyond the word of Yahweh in discerning the clean and unclean.

The Pharisees had gone to the extreme in their understanding of what is unclean. They were quite particular not only in when to wash their hands, but even how. There were ordinances that said you had to wash up to the third joint of the finger with a certain measure of water, etc etc etc.

They focused so much on what might cause them to be impure, they forgot that Yahweh would rather have them focus on what IS pure.

1Timothy 1:15 - This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that the Messiah Yahushua came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

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Titus 1:15 - Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

We should not treat clean/uncleanness like people treat germs. For instance, some believe that a woman who is in her monthly impurity (Niddah) should not cook a meal, lest she make the meal unclean

But scripture does not say that any food she touches is unclean. Neither does scripture say that eating with unwashed hands makes you unclean. We should not add to His word, neither should we take away:

Proverbs 30:5 - Every word of Eloah is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Proverbs 30:6 - Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Therefore, we need to make our words like His words, for the tongue can also defile a man:

James 3:3 - Indeed, we put bits in horses' mouths that they may obey us, and we turn their whole body.

James 3:4 - Look also at ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are turned by a very small rudder wherever the pilot desires.

James 3:5 - Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles!

James 3:6 - And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

"Even so, the tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body!"

James 3:7 - For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

James 3:8 - But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

James 3:9 - With it we bless YAHWEH our Father and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of YAHWEH.

James 3:10 - Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.

James 3:11 - Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?

James 3:12 - Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.

James 3:13 - Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct [that] his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Our conversation is to be holy:

1Peter 1:15 - but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,

1Peter 1:16 - because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."

2Peter 3:10 - But the day of YAHWEH will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

2Peter 3:11 - Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and reverence,

Let us heed Yahushua's warning:

Matthew 12:35 - A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Matthew 12:36 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Matthew 12:37 - For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Truly this is a powerful saying!

Can we stand before the Son of Man?

He will be seeking that bride that He purified. Not only should we beware not to defile our whole body with our tongue, we should shun such profane and idle babblings.

2Timothy 2:15 - Study to shew thyself approved unto YAHWEH, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2Timothy 2:16 - But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more wickedness.

2Timothy 2:17 - And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

2Timothy 2:18 - Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Therefore, let's bring our thoughts and words into the subjection of Messiah and if any man speak, let it be as the oracles of Yahweh:

1Peter 4:11 - If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of YAHWEH. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which YAHWEH supplies, that in all things YAHWEH may be glorified through Yahushua the Messiah, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever.

Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart favor to the hearers.

Yahweh's oracles are holy, may our speech be also

But how do we let no corrupt word proceed out of our mouth?

Battle away the corrupt thoughts that lead to corrupt speech:

2Corinthians 10:4 - for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.

2Corinthians 10:5 - Destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of YAHWEH, taking every thought captive to the obedience of the Messiah,

Take captive every thought to the obedience of Messiah.

2Corinthians 10:6 - and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete.

If our thoughts are unclean and are not in accordance with obedience to Yahweh, ask Yahweh to cast it out! He who is holy and has His Holy Spirit in us desires to do so!

One day, all these unholy and temporary things will not be tolerated. In the future kingdom, holiness will be the rule:

Isaiah 35:3 - Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.

Isaiah 35:4 - Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your Elohim will come with vengeance, even Elohim with a recompence; he will come and save you.

Isaiah 35:5 - Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

Isaiah 35:6 - Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

Isaiah 35:7 - And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

Isaiah 35:8 - And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

Isaiah 35:9 - No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:

Isaiah 35:10 - And the ransomed of YAHWEH shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

Therefore, let's give thanks at the remembrance of His holiness:

Psalms 30:4 - Sing unto YAHWEH, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.

Psalms 97:12 - Rejoice in YAHWEH, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.

We will continue next week, may Yahweh bless you and may Yahweh be praised for His holiness!

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VictoryYAH - I know when to be silent though
tewey - Have you ever considered that the "new testament" was oly written to the "chosen" and to none other
Yahuwdiyth - Lot of people out there are mad at this "god" they talk about from time to time. They just don't know Yahweh, nor do they want to know him. You can't "explain the way more clearly" to those who do not want it.
VictoryYAH - No, tewey I never thought that
tewey - thinkk about the prayer spoken by the Messiah in John 17th chapter
tewey - +john 27 6
tewey - +john 17 6
VictoryYAH - My husband told me last night that when his father died over 25 years ago, that was when he stopped believing in G_d. He told me that G_d took his father from him.
tewey - +john 17 7
tewey - +john 17 8
Yahuwdiyth - Does not the scripture tell us that the "preaching of the tree is foolishness to them that perish?" Vicky that random scripture didn't come up by accident. It was brought up to console you.
Yahuwdiyth - + cor 1 18
Yahuwdiyth - + corin 1 18
tewey - shalom everyone
VictoryYAH - So what do you think that scripture means Judy?
Yahuwdiyth - well dung!
Yahuwdiyth - give me corinthians!
Yahuwdiyth - + corinthians 1 18
Yahuwdiyth - + 1 cor 1 18
Yahuwdiyth - + 1cor 1 18
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyahweh!
Yahuwdiyth - finally!
Yahuwdiyth - shew!
Yahuwdiyth - Your brother in law is perishing in his disbelief. He does not want to hear the foolishness of the Yahuwshu'a on a stake.
VictoryYAH - So what you are saying is that if you believe then you won't die
VictoryYAH - ?
Yahuwdiyth - Physical death or spiritual death?
Yahuwdiyth - Seems he is already spiritually dead.
VictoryYAH - Well we all are appointed to die a physical death
Yahuwdiyth - I'm not saying he is perishing because of his disbelief.
VictoryYAH - I talked to him last week and he does believe in G_d and Jesus. And he knows why the Son came here.
Yahuwdiyth - But he doesn't want to hear anything other than jesus or god?
VictoryYAH - Right
Yahuwdiyth - I just don't understand peoples thinking about that! When I heard my Savior's real name I rejoiced!
Yahuwdiyth - I love his real name!
VictoryYAH - So did I :-)
Yahuwdiyth - I love the real name of the Father!
VictoryYAH - Me too
Yahuwdiyth - It is beautiful!
VictoryYAH - \o/ praise YHWH \o/
Yahuwdiyth - Baruch haba bashem Yahuwshu'a HaMashiach!
VictoryYAH - It is His memoriel Name "Forever" :-)
VictoryYAH - sorry about the spelling
Yahuwdiyth - My eyes tear up with joy over his name!
VictoryYAH - Oh, so do mine
VictoryYAH - :-)
Yahuwdiyth - Revival must come the prophets reveavled!
VictoryYAH - I am feeling very nervous and anxious now
Yahuwdiyth - Bless your heart!
VictoryYAH - I know I have to be going up to hospital and face all my husbands family
Yahuwdiyth - Be anxious for nothing sister Vicky.
VictoryYAH - I know, but I can't seem to shake it
VictoryYAH - Shabbat Shalom mekhal
Yahuwdiyth - Maybe you need a real good time of praise and shouting and rejoicing before you go to the hosp?
VictoryYAH - My husband's family is a very rough family, if you know what I mean
Yahuwdiyth - Are you home alone?
VictoryYAH - Ever other word out of their mouth is F___
Yahuwdiyth - Shabbat Shalom, Mekhal!
Yahuwdiyth - I understand.
VictoryYAH - No, my huasband just came home from seeing his brother. We are going up a little later this afternoon.
VictoryYAH - I don't fit in with them
VictoryYAH - They call me Miss pris and righteous
VictoryYAH - Miss goody two shoes etc
Yahuwdiyth - I know the feeling....a callous bunch and your refinement makes then feel shame.
VictoryYAH - Could be
Yahuwdiyth - Well, you don't have to spend every moment with them do you?
VictoryYAH - Please keep praying for me and my husband to have the strength during this time of sorrow. :-)
VictoryYAH - I try not too
VictoryYAH - I am taking my own car and my husband is not happy about that
Yahuwdiyth - I'm sure BROinLaw doesn't want everybody there fawning over him all the time.
VictoryYAH - Actually, he does. He is scared
Yahuwdiyth - I think you should drive with him.
Yahuwdiyth - OH, I see.
VictoryYAH - He called my husband at 5:30 am for him to come up
Yahuwdiyth - Well, if he "really" knew his redeemer then he would not be scared.
VictoryYAH - So true
Yahuwdiyth - OH, death will come with no sting!
Yahuwdiyth - I will rejoice if my death comes.
VictoryYAH - I can't, I have to take my own car because my husband will stay till the wee hours of the morning and we have a dog that has to be let out, and we live quite a ways away from the hospital.
Yahuwdiyth - I know who my redeemer is and death will be a time of rejoicing for me because I know within moments I will see him!
Yahuwdiyth - oh, I see
VictoryYAH - :-)
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, you are correct in taking your car then.
VictoryYAH - But I will stay as long as my husband needs me
Yahuwdiyth - yes, let the dog out just before you leave
Yahuwdiyth - How old is your dog?
Yahuwdiyth - Shabbat Shalom Ruth!
Yahuwdiyth - My dogs have been rained well over the years and they ONLY go out twice a day.
Ruth - Shabbatt Shalom VictoryYAH
Ruth - Shabbatt Shalom Yahudiyth
VictoryYAH - Shabbat Shalom Ruth
VictoryYAH - Our dog is almost 4 years old
VictoryYAH - (((((((((Ruth)))))))))))
Yahuwdiyth - Mine are 12 and they have been trained well and never have trouble.
Ruth - ((((((((((((((((((Vicky)))))))))))))))))
Yahuwdiyth - Blessed is the man who fears Yahweh.
Yahuwdiyth - What song is being played?
VictoryYAH - Yes, to fear Yahweh is Wisdom :-)
VictoryYAH - Ruth what is the name of this song?
VictoryYAH - Can you hear any songs played Judy?
Yahuwdiyth - no, I can't.
VictoryYAH - awwww
VictoryYAH - Are you on mIRC?
Yahuwdiyth - Tiff told me I have to download sumthin to hear them
Yahuwdiyth - yes
VictoryYAH - When I have the time, and when you are here, I can send you some wav's
Yahuwdiyth - Well, thanks, but wav files are usually rather distracting to me and can cause me to crash.
VictoryYAH - The ones with EliYah's children are so wonderful
Yahuwdiyth - I don't have an integrated system so only one sound program runs at one time.
VictoryYAH - Oh, ok
Ruth - what did I play!!!???
Yahuwdiyth - I have listened to some of the music from this site.
VictoryYAH - I don't know the name of it Ruth
Yahuwdiyth - Do you all know the scripture..."forsake not the gathering of yourselves together" in Hebrews?
VictoryYAH - Yes
Yahuwdiyth - what chap verse?
VictoryYAH - The JW's tell me of that verse all the time
Ruth - I can only have one sound sytemplat at one time also
VictoryYAH - Hold on let me check for you
Yahuwdiyth - What do the JW's think that verse means?...mandatory church attendance?
VictoryYAH - Yes
Yahuwdiyth - oh please...
Yahuwdiyth - ha!
Yahuwdiyth - All those churchy places wanna use that scripture to beat us over the head.
Yahuwdiyth - If they get us in the door then they beat a unlawful tithe out of us.
Ruth - Judy, you are on mirc
Yahuwdiyth - yes, Ruth
VictoryYAH - +Hebrews 10:25
Yahuwdiyth - The Day...
Yahuwdiyth - The Day of Atonement, Paul was speaking of...
Yahuwdiyth - The whole book of Hebrews is about the Day of Atonement.
VictoryYAH - It is?
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, and people do not understand Pauls writings so often (as Peter said) because Paul was writing to those who already knew what he was talking about without saying "day of Atonement"...Paul didn't think that dumbed down church people would be reading his writings 2000 years later...the apostles felt that Yahuwshu'a was gonna be returning in their lifetime.
Vicky - I just got disconnected
Vicky - ty :-)
Yahuwdiyth - That is why the church is such scattered sheep dumb before the shearers....they do not read the Brit Chadasha as a Jewish book and many don't even read the Torah or the Prophets at all thinking "we don't need that Jewish stuff"....oh, what a deception... :(
Ruth - !rs
Ruth - !rm
Yahuwdiyth - Back in 1992 my soul cried out for my Jewish Savior and not this marketable jesus they all preach...truely they are worshipping a "creature" more than the creator. A creature they have made up...a goodlooking, blondish man. Not as the scripture has told that he was not a comely man that any should want him.
Vicky - Yes, you know I just read that scripture in Isaiah two months ago about Yahushua.
Yahuwdiyth - I stook in the middle of a church of hundreds of people and in my soul I cried, "Why are we not celebrating the feasts that were to be forever? Why do we not have a Menorah?" Why? Why have we been stripped of everything scriptural?
Vicky - Wow
Ruth - how we had been blinded for so long!!!
Yahuwdiyth - Then I began to find out how it all happened...Constantine was no Christian. He was a smart pagan who saw a great business move. He stripped the faith of all the Jewishness."
Yahuwdiyth - Constantine, Hitler, bin Laden.... all the same types
Vicky - Yes
Vicky - When I found out the truth, I was so angered by all the lies I had been taught
Yahuwdiyth - me too
Yahuwdiyth - And I'm still angry
Vicky - Yes, me also
Yahuwdiyth - and my heart breaks for those who are involved in the deception
Vicky - And especially when you see your loved ones still believing all the lies
Yahuwdiyth - but, my silly heart can only break so far....I know that no man can come to the Father expect by Yahuwshu'a....only my foolishness of preaching may help some be guided by the call that is there, but they don't want to hear.
Yahuwdiyth - They don't want to understand what the scripture means.
Yahuwdiyth - + 2tim 2 15
Vicky - I have tried so hard to reason with my husband and my family, but now I am trying to win them over without a word. But that can be hard to do, when you have the knowledge of the truth. You want to share it with them.
Yahuwdiyth - If they know the English bible came from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek why don't they study?
Yahuwdiyth - They want to trust the English?
Vicky - Because most of them are
Vicky - "Too" comfortable with their lives
Ruth - so true
Yahuwdiyth - To me it only seems logical to study the original's to make sure the translation is correct.
Vicky - It would disrupt them to go and study and prove all things
Yahuwdiyth - With many preachers of churchanity slipping a little jewel in now and then by saying the underlying Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek word and it's truer meaning you'd think that would inspire people to study!
Vicky - But.....I also have to remember I was where they are at one point in my life.
Yahuwdiyth - I was too.
Yahuwdiyth - I was steeped in sin.
Yahuwdiyth - I didn't care.
Ruth - yeah, and not so very long ago either
Vicky - Right Ruth :-0
Vicky - :-)
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, not so long for me!
Yahuwdiyth - In 1997 I was swinging naked on a pole for $1000 a night.
Vicky - I always believed in the Father and the Son, but not the way I do now.
Yahuwdiyth -
Yahuwdiyth - Have I shocked you all off your chairs?
Yahuwdiyth - anybody there?
Yahuwdiyth - hello?
Yahuwdiyth - lol
Vicky - No, I heard you say that last night in paltalk remember?
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, I didn't know you were there dear.
Ruth - Praise Yahweh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vicky - But at least now, you know you were sinning and have repented :-)
Vicky - HalleluYAH!
Vicky - \o/ Praise YHWH \o/
Yahuwdiyth - It's a shameful past...much more scarlet than some and I've hesitated to speak about it because people see the new me and would never believe I was some wild sex symbol.
Vicky - Bless His Name, lift up His Name :-)
Yahuwdiyth - At least I never did adult films! Praise Yahweh! He kept from that shame that would have haunted me.
Vicky - Praise YHWH!
Vicky - BRB
Yahuwdiyth - BRB too...gotta check on Grannie.
betzer - shabbat shalom!
betzer - anybody here??
Ruth - ok, you both have a Shalom on this Sabbath, and see you later tonight !!! ...
VictoryYAH_BRB - Hi, I am back
Vicky - !rs
Vicky - +Hebrews 10:34
Yahuwdiyth - back
Yahuwdiyth - sort of
Yahuwdiyth - caught in "cooking mode"
Vicky - wb Judy :-)
Vicky - I am kind of back also
Yahuwdiyth - made some homemade spazel
Vicky - Getting ready to go to the hospital
Vicky - what is spazel
Yahuwdiyth - umm....
Yahuwdiyth - german
Yahuwdiyth - Well
Yahuwdiyth - like noodles?
Yahuwdiyth - I put flour in the food processor
Yahuwdiyth - about a cup
Yahuwdiyth - two egg yolks
Yahuwdiyth - and trickle water in till it all balls up
Yahuwdiyth - then roll out thin on a floured board
Yahuwdiyth - and use a pizza cutter to zip, zip, zip into little squares
Yahuwdiyth - and then fry in butter
Yahuwdiyth - saute in butter
Eli - shalom
Vicky - oooooh sounds good
Vicky - Shabbat Shalom Eli
Yahuwdiyth - the butter browns and the spazel is cooked and yummy
Yahuwdiyth - Shabbat shalom all!
Vicky - Shalom ChildofYah
ChildofYa - Shabbat Shalom
Eli - in one out in Canada
Eli - is anyone living in Cananda?
Yahuwdiyth - almost burned the spazel!
Yahuwdiyth - Oy!
Vicky - I live in Upstate New York Eli
claudia - hello watchman
claudia - !rs
claudia - !last seen BrBob
claudia - I guess I don't know how to do that
claudia - ok, thanks
Vicky - Don't put a space between lastseen :-)
claudia - I haven't seen him for a long time
claudia - thank you
Vicky - your welcome :-)
claudia - what are your plans for the day...everyone?
claudia - is there a lesson here on the sabbath?
Vicky - I am going to the hospital to see my brother-in-law, who is dying :-(
claudia - oh so sorry
Vicky - ty
Vicky - !rs
claudia - well..we all should rejoice at death...because it is the end of the testing of the flesh......
Vicky - Yes :-)
choosenam - Sandman
claudia - and then rather than be joyous at a birth...we should contemplate the struggle that the little life will be facing
claudia - last year EliYah had a great study about being joyous in the word of Yahweh
claudia - Count your trials as with joy, let patience have its timely work
Vicky - Yes, EliYah has great studies :-)
claudia - that one in particular made me stronger.....
Vicky - :-)
claudia - +1Corinth 4 13
claudia - +1corinth 4 14
claudia - +1 corinth 4 15
Vicky - I have to go get ready
Vicky - YHWH bless you all
claudia - ok
Vicky - Have a blessed Sabbath
claudia - and I will be thinking of you
claudia - thankyou
Vicky - ty claudia
ChildofYa - Yahweh bless you vicky
Vicky - yw sister :-)
claudia - and may Yahweh bless you and your family
Vicky - Thank you all very much
ChildofYa - :-)
Vicky - I love you all :-)
claudia - +2corinth 4 13 14
claudia - that is the one I wanted for vicky
ChildofYa - morning and a Shabbat Shalom to you claudia ;-)
claudia - and to you Child
claudia - +Psalms 33 1
claudia - +Psalms 28 12
claudia - +Psalms 28 12
ChildofYa - claudia is going to be very difficult to get that book America B.C.
Yahuwdiyth - If anybody said anything to me in the last 10 minutes please say again.
Yahuwdiyth - Grannies, medical practitioner is here
claudia - sabbath greetings
claudia - ok
Yahuwdiyth - was in the other room
Yahuwdiyth - Did I miss anything good? :)
claudia - I was trying to post some scripture from an old lesson of eliYah
Yahuwdiyth - Hallelu Yahweh!
claudia - +Psalms 28 12
Yahuwdiyth - no watchman
claudia - I guess he is gone
claudia - again
claudia - : )
Yahuwdiyth - no
Yahuwdiyth - wait
Yahuwdiyth - what is that watchman down at the bottom of the screen?
Yahuwdiyth - ha
Yahuwdiyth - funny watchman
claudia - it was working before
claudia - anyway......
claudia - how are you today Yahu
claudia - I wonder at the spelling of your name
claudia - and what it means
claudia - Judith?
claudia - right?
choosenam - nice shoot
claudia - hahaha
claudia - it is really you?
claudia - I have not spoken with you for quite a long time
claudia - I like your new name
claudia - anyone there?
claudia - I guess i should go and get ready for Sabbath meeting
choosenam -
claudia - Hi sandman
choosenam - aren't we saturday ?
claudia - well.....actually it is the 7th day
claudia - according to the scriptures
choosenam - Hi Claudia, thanks to regonize me
claudia - saturday is a recent name
choosenam - yes english :)
claudia - well I am not sure people with choosename like to be talked to
claudia - actually, saturday is from the name of the planet Saturn...not english
choosenam - I went to quickly but i'm here with the name Sandman as always
claudia - do you not recognize the 7th day as a day of rest?
claudia - oh ok
choosenam - Yes i do
claudia - nice to meet you
claudia - and what do you call it
choosenam - starting friday
claudia - I suppose you can call it what you want.....
claudia - actually timekeeping is such an interesting study
claudia - when a day begins
claudia - when a month begins
claudia - when a year begins
claudia - and what manages those times
claudia - the egyptians started their new day with the rising of the orb of the sun
choosenam - Sorry i got lost,now_Shabbat it's from fridaY NIGHT to saturday night. Samstag ist Zaturn ?
claudia - I agree with you that the 7th day begins when the orb of the sun is out of sight....sets
choosenam - ok, here we are
choosenam - Claudia you are speed
claudia - : )
claudia - sorry
claudia - I talk even faster
claudia - haha
choosenam - Lol
claudia - did you read what I posted?
choosenam - Haven't seen the postman
Nicole - Shalom!
claudia - sabbath greetings Nicole
choosenam - Sandman is my name lol
Nicole - : )
Nicole - How is everyone today?
claudia - great......
claudia - and you?
choosenam - Shlom!
Nicole - Fine, thank you.
Eli - please could you pray for me . I'm have a haed time with my wife, it looks like it mite be all over and we have three children. I pray to Yahweh that I hope I have done everything besides givind up my Faith that Yahweh has showen me. Please pray that Yahweh will intervene and help me and my family. May Yahweh bless your lifes and keep you in Yahshua's love shalom all
Nicole - I will pray for you Eli.
claudia - Eli! so sorry....
choosenam - Man, look also into yourself
claudia - please do everything you can to keep the family together...have you had counseling?
claudia - are you both people of the scriptures?
Eli - we have and I will
claudia - a mans responsibility is to be the spiritual leader of the family
claudia - have you done that?
claudia - are you doing that?
Nicole - remeber this
Nicole - +psalm 27:1
choosenam - are you open minded?
claudia - have you done something wrong in the marriage that you can repair?
claudia - is there forgiveness between the woman and the man?
claudia - W O W what a counseling session....eli
Eli - we have talked before Claudia
claudia - OH yes....
choosenam - it should
claudia - there are times that one must continue on........
claudia - if the partner will not abide
claudia - just continue to love and comfort the children all your days
Eli - Shalom all
claudia - be a good person
Nicole - Shalom Eli.
Eli - I will
claudia - and yahweh will be helping you
Nicole - Yahweh bless you.
claudia - I must also go
choosenam - can also to go backward where the problem did start,and restart
claudia - I agree sandman
claudia - it is never too late when two people are willing
choosenam - Bye Claudia
Nicole - Praise Yah
claudia - bye sandman, Nicole, eli yahudiytrh and child
Nicole - Bye Claudia
Nicole - Take care
claudia - !rs
Nicole - What do yall want to have a conversation about?
Nicole - Shalom everybody. Take care and Yahweh bless!!!
Sandman - ?
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah!
Yahuwdiyth - Forgive me for not talking!
Yahuwdiyth - I was away.
Yahuwdiyth - Giving my grandmother a breathing treatment.
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - Leaning on the everlasting arms!
Yahuwdiyth - Praise Yahweh!
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
starr - how have you been hello
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah!
Yahuwdiyth - Who me?
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
starr - is there no guys here
Yahuwdiyth - I'm a girl.
starr - hello
Yahuwdiyth - hi :)
Yahuwdiyth - 37, Kentucky, single
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom :)
Yahuwdiyth - Well, Shabbat Shalom! :)
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
starr - do you have a boyfriend
Yahuwdiyth - No, boyfriend
Yahuwdiyth - Live out in the country with my grandmother...isolated.
Yahuwdiyth - lol
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - Hallelu Yahweh!
Yahuwdiyth - Believe!!!!!!
starr - @Watchman hello
Yahuwdiyth - But, not "easy believism"
Sandman - Sound weird
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - Watchman is not a person Starr
Yahuwdiyth - It is a computer program to bring up scriptures like when I do "!rs" for "random scripture"
Yahuwdiyth - try it
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah!
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - Amein
starr - what the hell sandman
Yahuwdiyth - You will know my talmudim by their affectionate love one to another.
Sandman - Strange, ¨
starr - strange
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Sandman - Paradise
Sandman - Heaven
starr - see ha
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
EliYah - Leviticus 19:18 - Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am YAHWEH.
starr - hello
Yahuwdiyth - amein
Yahuwdiyth - Shalom Blessing
Blessing - Greetings
Sandman - What's going on here,use to be some order ?
Blessing - How wonderful to be back
EliYah - Informal when there isn't a scheduled meeting, Sandman
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom Blessing :)
Yahuwdiyth - Is there disorder, Sandman?
Blessing - Shabbat Shalom to you also
Sandman - Thanks Eliyah
Yahuwdiyth - That was a good good scripture Eliyah. I'll have to memorize that one.
Blessing - How is every one this beautiful day that the Lord has made.
Yahuwdiyth - I'm on top of the world that Yahweh that made! :)
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah!!!!!!
Blessing - Great Yahuwdiyth
Yahuwdiyth - :)
Blessing - Is there any discussion going on at the moment
Yahuwdiyth - + lev 19 18
Yahuwdiyth - No, subject right now Blessing.
Sandman - In my eyes yes,if you say something like i went to drink some milk ,and jump into scripture on milk and honey,cool
Yahuwdiyth - Just us Yahuwdim hanging out.
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
EliYah - Some think that is a new commandment, found only in the "New Testament"
Blessing - Today here in SC it is beautiful. Lovely blue, clear skies and the temperature is perfect
Yahuwdiyth - Which commandment Eliyah?
Yahuwdiyth - the Lev one?
Sandman - SC ?=
EliYah - thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself:
Blessing - South Carolina Sandman
Sandman - just love
Sandman - I C
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, absolutely...most of churchanity does want anything to do with the OT
Blessing - To love ones neighbor is to love oneself.
Sandman - Charleston Heston
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
EliYah - Galatians 5:14 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Sandman - .....is One
Sandman - The Bibl is One
Yahuwdiyth - You will know my talmudim by the affectionate love they have to one another!
Yahuwdiyth - I love you, Blessing.
Yahuwdiyth - I love you, Child of Yah.
Yahuwdiyth - I love you, Eliyah.
Blessing - I love myself, for I know that I belong unto God, My Father and His Son, Jesus. I do not know how to spell the names that you all use. They are beautiful
Yahuwdiyth - I love you, Sandman.
EliYah - love you too, Yahuwdith\
Blessing - I love you all also
EliYah - Yahweh is the name of the Heavenly Father
Yahuwdiyth - Happy, happy, happy! :)
Blessing - yes, It is a beautiful name. So pleasant to speak it
EliYah - In the scriptures we are told to praise, exalt, bless, love, teach, preach, anoint, assemble, believe, give thanks, honor and call on His name.
EliYah - :)
Blessing - Yahweh, Yahweh, Yahweh. It is beautiful
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, blessing...everywhere you see "LORD" in all caps in the bible, know that underneath in the original Hebrew language is his name, "Yahweh".
Sandman - among
Blessing - How did His name, Yahweh get changed
Yahuwdiyth - It didn't ever get changed.
EliYah - It all started with a Jewish tradition called the "ineffable name" doctrine. Jews, for fear that Yahweh's name be blasphemed, started to substitute His name with the Hebrew title "Adonai".
Yahuwdiyth - It got covered up is what happened.
EliYah - Adonai is the Hebrew word for "Lord". You can verify this information in many Bible dictionaries and various encyclopedias
Blessing - I know that His Name has not changed. But how did man come about changing it
Sandman - Many Names ONE G-D
Yahuwdiyth - And they also substitute by saying "HaShem" meaning "TheName" in English.
Sandman - Barouk
EliYah - Psalms 83:18 - That men may know that thou, whose name alone is YAHWEH, art the most high over all the earth.
Blessing - Spell Jesus true name for me
EliYah - Actually he has one personal name
EliYah - But many titles that describe Him
Yahuwdiyth - Yahuwshu'a
ChildofYa - Shabbat Shalom, Baruch haShem Yahweh
Blessing - Yahuwshua it is like poetry
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom ChildofYa :)
Yahuwdiyth - "Yahuwshu'a" is the best, but sounding the same is "Yahushua".
ChildofYa - :-)
Blessing - You guys, girls, whichever are great
Yahuwdiyth - pronounced like "Yahoo SHOE 'ah"
Yahuwdiyth - I love his name!
Blessing - Not Ya shoe ah, but Yahoo shoe ah
Yahuwdiyth - yes
Sandman - .com
Yahuwdiyth - emphasis on the "shoe" part
Blessing - Yahoo SHOE ah
Yahuwdiyth - Yahuw=contracted form of "Yahweh"
Sandman - Aol
Yahuwdiyth - Yahweh is Salvation
Blessing - How could those names have been lost in translation. The Christian people , do they know of this
Sandman - what a JOB
Yahuwdiyth - People didn't really care, that is why.
Blessing - When I speak to my Father, Yahweh and to my Brother Yahawshu, am I to call them by these names
EliYah - The ineffable name doctrine was then adopted by some of the Christian groups during the early half of the 2nd Century C.E.
EliYah - Few have thought to question it since
EliYah - Yes, scripture says to
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom shmaland :)
Yahuwdiyth - Most people think that it doesn't matter what we call him that he will answer to anything. That is sad.
Blessing - So to call Him Lord, God, or Jesus, would be incorrect?
Yahuwdiyth - Actually, yes, Blessing.
Sandman - Ok,Respect to you EliYah,Sbat Slom !
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom Sandman :)
Blessing - Oh, how I do want to address Him correctly and bring Honor unto Him and Unto my Savior
ChildofYa - The J--sus came in to the picture around 1544 before that it was Iesous(Yea-Zues)
Tallit - shabbot shalom to you al
ChildofYa - shalom aki
Yahuwdiyth - Just call on His name, Blessing.
EliYah - The original 1611 KJV had "Iesus"
Blessing - What do you mean, Yahuwdiyth
Yahuwdiyth - Just say, "Father Yahweh, I love you!"
Blessing - Where did the name Jesus come from
ChildofYa - yes this name J--sus started with St. Ignatius of Loyala
Blessing - It certainly is a much more beautiful way of calling unto Him
Yahuwdiyth - Where are you from, Blessing?
Blessing - who was St ignatius of Loyala
ChildofYa - Commonly known as the "Society of J--sus"
Blessing - South carolina
ChildofYa - or Jesuits
Yahuwdiyth - Born and raised, Blessing?
Blessing - The Bible Belt of the south, with churches on each corner
Yahuwdiyth - So your just a regular old hayseed American, Blessing?
Blessing - No, I was born in Virginia, Staunton. Came here with my dad, transferred by Dupont
EliYah - "Jesus" is a Greek/Latin/English form
EliYah - But Yahushua was a Hebrew
Blessing - Yes, a regular old haysee American
Yahuwdiyth - I see,...the way you talked you seemed like you might be an immigrant to America.
Blessing - Hebrew is what the scripture was written in correct?
Yahuwdiyth - The Greeks chose not to respect His name and translated it instead of transliterating it.
Blessing - My family is German decent on both sides
EliYah - yes, blessing
Yahuwdiyth - We don't call "Mikhail Gorbechave" Michael do we?
Blessing - I believe that I was told, that names are not to be translated
ChildofYa - yes our Messiah's name is not "J-sus" or "Iesous(Yea-Zues)"
Yahuwdiyth - We don't translate "Saddam" as in Hussein into English as "Destoyer" and call him "Destroyer Hussein" do we?
Yahuwdiyth - no.
Blessing - We are called by our given names, wherever we go, right
Yahuwdiyth - Good or bad we respect people and don't change their proper names.
Blessing - Yet, our Father's name has been changed and His Precious Son's name. There must be a spiritual reason for this.
ChildofYa - the enemy doesn"t want you to know it
Yahuwdiyth - The name "Yahuwshu'a" is a compound name. Yahuw=Yahweh Shua-Salvation. There is no language on the face of the earth that "Jesus" is a compound name. "Je" doesn't mean "Yahweh" in any language and "sus" doesn't mean "salvation" in any language.
mekhal - Shabbat Shalom
Blessing - this is very serious. We must call Him with the Name that He has given unto us
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, if I traveled to Japan they would call me by my name and not translate it.
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah Blessing!
Yahuwdiyth - You know how serious it is!
Yahuwdiyth - It is serious!
Yahuwdiyth - Let us not deny his name.
ChildofYa - +Acts 4:12
Blessing - Changing a name, will change the meaning of a person's identy
Blessing - All of these years I have been so blessed that He has answered my prayers and supplications, even tho I knew not His Name
Yahuwdiyth - This is what I try to get across to people all the time. If you know somebodies real name then why don't you use it out of respect?
EliYah - Blessing is a blessing
EliYah - Blessing is blessed
Blessing - I shall from this day forth Honor Him with the name that He has taught me today
EliYah - HalleluYah!
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, Blessing...he is merciful to wink at our ignorence.
ChildofYa - BARUCH HASHEM YAHWEH ELYON
Yahuwdiyth - But, when we know the truth we are to act on it or it is sin to us.
Blessing - Yet this day I am no longer ignorant. I have gained great wisdom
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, Blessing! You are making me cry! Halleluyah! I hug you!
Yahuwdiyth - The angels are rejoicing in heaven!
Tallit - Baruch YHVH
Blessing - Yes, I shall ask Him to print this upon my forehead. I will not longer be ashamed to call Him by His Name which is above every name
Tallit - be gentle to teach
ChildofYa - +Psalms 51:6
EliYah - Revelation 14:1 - Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, Halleluyah!!!!!
Blessing - Glory to Yawwah, I cannot spell it yet.
EliYah - Yahweh
ChildofYa - Yahweh
Blessing - I will be gentle to teach. I will not bring shame upon Him
Yahuwdiyth - this is beautiful!
EliYah - HalleluYAH means: Hallelu: Praise You | YAH: YAHweh
Blessing - Yahweh, Yahweh, That is the most beautiful name I have spoken
ChildofYa - yes Blessing most people don"t want the truth
ChildofYa - so wait upon Yahweh
ChildofYa - he will lead you in to all truth
Blessing - But the truth sets us free. I want more of Yahweh. I have so much to learn. In this day I want to be a part of what He is doing in the earth
Yahuwdiyth - If we were in an assembly right now you would see me with my hands raised to Him in praise and tears running down my cheeks as I rejoice over someone else who has had eyes to see and hears to hear!
Tallit - what a blessed day
Yahuwdiyth - He has come to set the captive free!
ki7201 - Shabbat shalom room
Yahuwdiyth - To give sight to the blind!
Blessing - Praise Yahweh for His love and kindness. I almost but God, I will learn to overcome my habits
ChildofYa - yes don't be to quick there are many people with the name and this doesn't mean they have the truth
Yahuwdiyth - Shabbat Shalom, Ki
ChildofYa - so wait upon Yahweh he will lead you
ki7201 - : )
Blessing - Who did Yahweh allow to open your eyes
ChildofYa - me
ChildofYa - ?
ki7201 - hmm
Blessing - Please explain ChildofYa
ChildofYa - ok
Blessing - Having the name but not the truth. Please explain some further
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom ki7201 :)
ki7201 - Shabbat Shalom EliYah
ChildofYa - since i have been in the names there are many claiming to have the truth on the web sites
Blessing - Yahweh, I love You with all my heart. Enlarge me heart that I may love you more
ChildofYa - but out of all of them this is one of the few i ever visit
ki7201 - oops
Blessing - Now I understand, yes this site is beautiful. this is my second time. After my first visit, I could hardly sleep
ChildofYa - so just take it slow ad the Father will lead
Yahuwdiyth - Blessing, you have made my day!
Blessing - I was so alive and so aware of Yahweh's presence, that I could not go to sleep
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah!
ChildofYa - and remember study too
Yahuwdiyth - + 2tim 2 15
Blessing - Yes, we are impatient and I do desire to depend totally upon Him
Blessing - do you have a quiet time before Him
Yahuwdiyth - Meditate upon the word both day and night.
ChildofYa - +John 5:39
ChildofYa - Watchman, who is the king of kings?
mekhal - It looks like I have found some of my brothers and sisters in Yah. I was here earlier but never was in a chat room and didn't know how to converse. Now, i am rejoicing when i see what I see.
Yahuwdiyth - This is honorable in His sight!
Blessing - You all are wonderful in Yahweh, I rejoice that I have found you
ChildofYa - +Rev 19:16
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom mekhal :)
Yahuwdiyth - And we are rejoicing that you have "been found", Blessing!
Blessing - Glory unto His Name and I rejoice in that we have found a oneness among the Brethren
mekhal - +rev 18:4
Blessing - I do hope that you will not forget me
ChildofYa - :-) = Praise Yahweh Most High
Blessing - My Prayer life will never by the same.
ChildofYa - Blessing do you have yahoo?
Yahuwdiyth - Don't forget us, Blessing....come back and visit often.
Yahuwdiyth - And send email! yahuwdiyth@hotmail.com
Blessing - I have sat here and spoken to Him caling Him by His proper name and it feels so comfortable, like I knew it but had just forgotten
ChildofYa - childoftruthalso@yahoo.com
Blessing - I do believe that I can go to yahoo
Yahuwdiyth - Blessing, do you go to church now? If so, how many years?
ChildofYa - if you would like to voice chat get yahoo it is free and look for childoftruthalso
Yahuwdiyth - Paltalk at www.paltalk.com is a great voice chat too.
EliYah - Anyone here from the Tampa, FL area?
Yahuwdiyth - They have religious groups on there...many that believe the truth of his true names.
Blessing - I do go to a fellowship. We are not any denomination. We just love Yahweh and Yashusa, still cannot spell
Yahuwdiyth - yes
Yahuwdiyth - I lived in Tampa for over 15 years
EliYah - I lived in Lakeland for about 4 years
EliYah - Was in Tampa last summer
ChildofYa - really i am not to far from you Yahuwdyith
Yahuwdiyth - I was last in Tampa in 1997
EliYah - Baptized two people in Bradenton
Yahuwdiyth - I'm in Kentucky, Child of Yahweh
Yahuwdiyth - Used to live in Tampa
ChildofYa - oh ok
ChildofYa - lol
Blessing - I was born again in 1967. But I have learned much about His truths in the past years, I desire to let traditions go
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, let the traditions go...Yahuwshu'a the Messiah said, "Ye transgress the law of Yahweh by your vain traditions".
Yahuwdiyth - Not only do the "christians" need to loose some traditions, but as well I lost some of my Jewish traditions.
Yahuwdiyth - This past Day of Atonement taught me something.....
Yahuwdiyth - We had a back to back Sabbath ....
Tallit - what traditions of judiasim did you lose?
Blessing - I suppose that we all have traditions that cause the word of Yahweh to be of no effect
Yahuwdiyth - Thursday night was a Sabbath
Yahuwdiyth - and then Friday night the regular Sabbath began...
Yahuwdiyth - I had my little traditional Sabbath candles ready to light for the weekly Sabbath....
Yahuwdiyth - I pulled the match from the match pad.....
Yahuwdiyth - Closed up the book of matches....
Yahuwdiyth - Was ready to drag the match across the scratch strip to light it....
Yahuwdiyth - when.....
Tallit - building dRAMA
EliYah - Exodus 35:3 - Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
Yahuwdiyth - OH!!!!!!!!!
Yahuwdiyth - My tradition was shattered!
Blessing - Is there anything else that you may feel to teach me
Yahuwdiyth - And I praised Yahweh from releasing me from the bondage of tradition!
EliYah - heh
Yahuwdiyth - Toda Eliyahuw!
Blessing - Thanks Yahweh for His revelation
Tallit - YOU'R PREPERATION WAS LACKING TO AVOID LITING A FIRE WE USE 48 HOUR CANDLE AND KITE IT BEFORE THE THURSDAY SHABBOT
Yahuwdiyth - You were right on time with that scripture
shmaland - Shabbat Shalom everybody......I enjoyed our short talk last evening Tallit :)
Tallit - sorry about the caps
EliYah - yes, I was waiting for the right moment
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom shmaland :)
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom choosenam :)
Tallit - shalom shmaland
Blessing - Well all I must go, Yahweh's Blessings are unto you all I have been greatly blessed.
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom Blessing :)
Yahuwdiyth - and you have been a great blessing, Blessing.
EliYah - You have a fitting name
choosenam - shalom
Tallit - awesome blessing
ki7201 - shalom chooseman
Yahuwdiyth - Come back soon, Blessing! :)
choosenam - yes
Yahuwdiyth - Shabbat Shalom, Blessing!
Tallit - wehave to get ready for fellowship
Blessing - One last question Shabbat, Shlom what do they mean
Tallit - whata great time in chat
EliYah - It means "Peaceful Sabbath"
ki7201 - : )
EliYah - A sabbath greeting.. Shalom means "Peace" Shabbat is Sabbath
choosenam - greeting in the name of the father
Tallit - or shabbos
Blessing - Shalom unto you all
Yahuwdiyth - Yahweh bless you, Blessing!
ki7201 - shalom blessing
Blessing - See you again soon, do not forget me,
ki7201 - : )
Tallit - Shalom shalom
Yahuwdiyth - Shalom to you too Tallit
EliYah - Blessing, we'll remember you in our prayers.
choosenam - tallit do you know wher that name comes from
Yahuwdiyth - Tallit is gone
Yahuwdiyth - What name, Choosenam?
choosenam - tallit
Yahuwdiyth - The prayer shawl
Yahuwdiyth - Did is spell Shawl right?
Yahuwdiyth - Eliyah?
Yahuwdiyth - Talitot
Yahuwdiyth - Is the chat room getting ready to bite the dust again?
Yahuwdiyth - Anybody there?
Yahuwdiyth - hello?
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
ki7201 - hi ya
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, Hi!
ki7201 - hehehe
Yahuwdiyth - I thought everybody fell over
ki7201 - just wispering sorry
ki7201 - lol
Yahuwdiyth - Whispering about what?
Yahuwdiyth - Hello ms :)
Yahuwdiyth - Welcome, MS
Yahuwdiyth - What is your name again, Ki?
Yahuwdiyth - Hello again, MS.
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
ki7201 - ms left Yah
Yahuwdiyth - yeah left again
Yahuwdiyth - What is your name, Ki
ki7201 - HECTOR
ki7201 - opps sorry
ki7201 - hehe
Yahuwdiyth - hector...are you spanish?
ki7201 - ki is my sons name
ki7201 - yeap
Yahuwdiyth - Do live in Illinois?
ki7201 - Fl
Yahuwdiyth - oh, okay
Yahuwdiyth - hello guest
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - Watchman, who is the Messiah?
Yahuwdiyth - + rev 19 16
Yahuwdiyth - That is so cute...thanks for showing me that Child of Yahweh
Yahuwdiyth - Well, howdy Russell...shabbat Shalom
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Russell - Hello and Shalom Shabbat to all
Yahuwdiyth - How are things in your neck of the woods Russell?
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Russell - Just lovely
Yahuwdiyth - Its been nice and breezy up here in La Grange today.
Yahuwdiyth - All the windows open.
Russell - Did anyone else get disconnected last night from the this room?
Yahuwdiyth - yes
Yahuwdiyth - the chat room bit the dust for about an hour
Yahuwdiyth - loss of electricity Eliyah said
Russell - I couldn't get reconnected, the website was down tool
Yahuwdiyth - + lev 18 19
Russell - Ah, IC
Yahuwdiyth - woops
Yahuwdiyth - + lev 19 18
Russell - Just read the transcript, most excellent EliYah!
ChildofYa - SHABBAT SHALOM
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
ki7201 - Shabbat Shalom room
Yahuwdiyth - leaving Hector?
Russell - Hey ki!
ki7201 - ill send you that today EliYah
ki7201 - HI russ
ChildofYa - PEACE TO YOU GUEST
ki7201 - how are you
ki7201 - : )
Russell - Great!
ki7201 - good
ki7201 - talk to you all laters
Russell - It's amazing how YHWH's spirit works isn't it?
Yahuwdiyth - what happened Russel? Do you have a testimony?
ChildofYa - Yea a person came to the names today
ChildofYa - in this roon
ChildofYa - oops room
Blessings - I had to come back and share something beautiful with you all
Russell - I wish I could put it into words, it's just inexplicable
Blessings - After getting off the chat room, I went to find my husband
EliYah - back
Yahuwdiyth - and?
Blessings - who had been working outside most of the day
Yahuwdiyth - yes
Yahuwdiyth - and?
gad - hi
Yahuwdiyth - Hello Gad
Blessings - He loves Yahweh, as I do and is seeking a closer walk with Him
Yahuwdiyth - Halleluyah!
truthful - shalom all
Yahuwdiyth - peace, truthful
truthful - praise yhwh
Yahuwdiyth - Well, what good news, Blessing
Blessings - i share with my husband about the translating of proper names
Russell - excellent
Blessings - I asked him how he would feel if I shared with him that God and Jesus were not the correct names
Yahuwdiyth - and he said?
Blessings - that they had been translated and the correct names were Yahuwshua and Yahweh.
truthful - my
gad - shabbot shalom bye
Blessings - He looked at me and said, he had been in prayer as he was working, just praising and lifting up the Name of the Lord
daze - how is it going
Yahuwdiyth - Blessings... you will find that there will be many people out there that will not receive truth with gladness like you have. They will revile you and say you are trying to cause division in the body.
Blessings - He said that the names Yahuwshua and Yahweh had come into his spirit many times during the day
Yahuwdiyth - Hi daze...peace
truthful - the lord/ /
Yahuwdiyth - WOW!
Blessings - I was so overwhelmed, for surely we have been given this day what Yahweh and willed for us.
EliYah - HalleluYAH!
daze - truth trh lord i thought this was a chat for yahweh and yahshua only
Blessings - Just had to share this with you. My husand and I rejoice that we have both heard from Yahweh this day
Russell - That's awsome
Yahuwdiyth - Oh yes, Blessings!
Blessings - I love you all and my Yahweh's blessings be seen upon you all and your families.
daze - so have any of you in there have the hol,y name bible
Yahuwdiyth - You too, Blessings! Thanks for the testimony!
daze - same here blessing
EliYah - We love you too, Blessings :)
EliYah - and may His blessing be upon you and your family
daze - so when are we going to be accepted as the true believers in the messiah
EliYah - I have the holy name bible
daze - this christians really think there something i just hope they could understand but thats impossible
EliYah - Who are "we", daze?
Yahuwdiyth - What do you mean Daze?
daze - eliyah do you have the guys versions or the girls there are two versions i was wondering if they were different
EliYah - I haven't heard of that
daze - yeah there are two versions they were redone
EliYah - I have the "Holy Name Bible" by A.B. Traina
daze - believers in yahuahshua hamashia
EliYah - And the Rotherham, the "Word of Yahweh", and "The Scriptures"
daze - yeah thats the one i have but theres another one by a man
daze - do you have the book of yahweh
EliYah - And of course the Restored Name King James Version on this site
Yahuwdiyth - You mean Stern's Complete Jewish Bible?
EliYah - I don't have the "book of Yahweh", not interested
daze - restored i thought the king james from 1611 was the only good king james
ishi - hi
EliYah - The RNKJV is the King James Version with the names restored
daze - hey
Yahuwdiyth - There is nothing really good about the KJV since it deny's the names.
Russell - Shabbat shalom ishsi!
ishi - hi shabbot shalom
EliYah - It's similar to the one on this chat room
Yahuwdiyth - Shalom Ishi
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom ishi :)
EliYah - though you aren't my husband
daze - yeah the 1611 has the names just different it start with an i which sounds as a y
Yahuwdiyth - I feel funny calling you "Ishi"
ishi - i believe in yayshua is the messiah
EliYah - HalleluYah Ish
Yahuwdiyth - Yahuwshua the Messiah
tewey - shalom everyone
Yahuwdiyth - Oh, this a very blessed Sabbath!
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom tewey :)
daze - very true
Yahuwdiyth - Believers coming out of the woodwork today!
daze - hey its ment to be
Yahuwdiyth - yep, the time is right.
ishi - any christian here
ishi - s
Yahuwdiyth - He is regathering Israel
Yahuwdiyth - Depends on what you mean by "christian"
daze - he is gathering his choosen he is drwing them out
EliYah - We all believe in Yahushua the Messiah
Russell - HalleluYah!
daze - I don't believe there is a christian in this chat
ishi - chirstians followers of christ jesus
daze - how can a christian believe in a jewish messiah as yahshua
Yahuwdiyth - People may call us "christians", but we don't call ourselves that since "christianity" is so rife with deception and so lawless.
ishi - jesus is god of the gentiles
daze - hey I wonder why that is the jews call me a christian when im following the mosiac sciptures
ishi - christianity is pagan
daze - yahweh scriptures
Yahuwdiyth - You are right, Ishi.
Yahuwdiyth - I came out of Christianity...
Yahuwdiyth - + rev 18 4
ishi - christianity is hellenist
daze - yahu ul shall be glorified
daze - believe it or not i was a catholic not by choice
ishi - you mean yaohu ul in archaic hebrew
Yahuwdiyth - I don't call myself "christian", nor "Jew", but I call myself a "Yahuwthim"....big difference.
daze - whether way you would like to right it
daze - makes the same sound
Yahuwdiyth - There is much paganistic ways going on in Judaism too.
ishi - yahudah mean judah
ishi - yes
Yahuwdiyth - Yahuwthah mean Judah...Yahuwthim is different.
Russell - Yahuwthowt
daze - yahudah means something else also
ishi - im means more than one
Yahuwdiyth - the word "Jewish" is a corruption of "Yahuwthim".
ishi - like baalim mean lords
Yahuwdiyth - yes, Ishi
ishi - any of you use the term hashem or shema
Russell - Bless you
Russell - :)
ishi - please anwers my question please
Yahuwdiyth - No, we do not use hashem
ishi - why
EliYah - baalim = lords
Yahuwdiyth - only if we would want to use it literally as The name
EliYah - "im" is usually a plural ending
Yahuwdiyth - We do not use vain replacement words for his name.
EliYah - masculine
daze - i saw a movie on tuesday a christian apoaclypse movie that shows all christians getting saved but the thing that i didn't understand they say theres no law and they have a picture of the breakers of the law getting sent down to sheol
EliYah - "ot" is feminine
ishi - in the psalms hashem is used
Yahuwdiyth - The Jews say "HaShem" to cover up saying "Yahweh".
EliYah - daze: suicide?
daze - hashem meaning the name
daze - eliyah what
Yahuwdiyth - Yahuwshu'a the Messiah came to declare his Father's name and he did. He spoke it. He brought the speaking of the name back.
EliYah - A christian movie shows breakers of the law going to sheol?
daze - he brought it back in his name also
ishi - hashem is where you get the vowels a , e for yahweh name
daze - yeah but the movie shows the christians getting saved it made no point it makes them look dumb
Yahuwdiyth - Eych korim lecha, Ishi?
Yahuwdiyth - What was the name of the movie, Daze?
daze - yahweh is another form of writing yahuah
daze - which it really shouod be
daze - but thats only paleo
Yahuwdiyth - Ya-hweh
Yahuwdiyth - Ya-who-uh
daze - the w is suppose to be two u's
daze - the eh like yeh is souded as yah
Yahuwdiyth - Ya-who-way
daze - so it would be yahuah
ishi - all names are part of the seven holy name for hashem
Yahuwdiyth - Ya-whowey
Yahuwdiyth - there...that is best... Ya-whowey
daze - there are seven holy names that is true
Yahuwdiyth - get gutteral at the beginning of the "whowey"
ishi - actually the best names are yahuah and yaohu ul older form are better
daze - ishi very true archaic and paleo and negev hebrew are good
Yahuwdiyth - Eych korim lecha, Ishi?
ishi - shabbot shalom daze lets go eat
Yahuwdiyth - reshalom Tewey
EliYah - I know of no evidence to support "Yaohu Ul"
daze - ishi what do you mean
daze - klets go eat were
ishi - kosher food
daze - eliyah there are manuscripts that carry the name yahu ul in negev hebrew also
daze - cool
tewey - We just had kosher hog
Yahuwdiyth - huh, tewey?
tewey - Didnt kill the hog, just cut off the rear leg
EliYah - Where?
daze - hog whats that pig
tewey - Thought I could get a response!!!!!
EliYah - heh
Yahuwdiyth - Please, Tewey...that is not funny to mock Yahweh like that.
tewey - Just joking, I hope you know
daze - hahahh
daze - good one got to go eat with ishi
tewey - Ever hear people talking about using the hair of the unclean if the animal hasnt been killed?
daze - where do you get yayshua from
Yahuwdiyth - Never heard of "yayshua"
EliYah - Not to eat :)
tewey - I see that the fourth case of anthrax has shown up
Russell - Joshua/Yahushua
daze - allright peace out ishi is telling me to eat
daze - shalom
Yahuwdiyth - Daze, what are you talking about "yayshua"...never heard of that spelling.
Yahuwdiyth - hmmm...whats up with Daze and Ishi?
Yahuwdiyth - Weird
Yahuwdiyth - Child of Yahweh...why are you so quiet?
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Russell - His spelling was off on many words, maybe English is not his primary language
Yahuwdiyth - Yes, I noticed...both of them were off on many words.
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
Yahuwdiyth - !rs
EliYah - Matthew 16:17 - And Yahushua answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
tewey - Has anyone heard that one of the Missouri groups is teaching that Yahweh's people can wear pigskin shoes, etc.
EliYah - I think YAIM says it is okay
tewey - I personally cannot accept such a teaching!
Russell - Why not?
tewey - I do not think John wore camel hair raim
ChildofYa - i have a testimony
tewey - rainment
Yahuwdiyth - hmmm...yes..the camel was unclean
Yahuwdiyth - for eating?
Yahuwdiyth - but they rode them?
Yahuwdiyth - Did anybody ever ride a pig?
Russell - Oh, not to touch an unclean carcass.
tewey - Nor do I think th e skins of the unclean badger was used in the temple, etc.
tewey - I think these are mistranslations
Yahuwdiyth - hmmmmm?
tewey - the camel was a "beast of burden"
Russell - !search carcass
tewey - might have been hair from an ox
Yahuwdiyth - Tewey, that is interesting...never thought of the camel and badgers.
Yahuwdiyth - What is your testimony Child of Yahweh?
ChildofYa - the Father just blessed me with someone in my area to fellowship with HalleluYah
Yahuwdiyth - How did that happen, Child?
ChildofYa - thru EliYah's room
ChildofYa - chat room that is
tewey - We have to be careful of what is being taught even among Sacred Name believers
Yahuwdiyth - Eliyah.....
EliYah - HalleluYah, childofYah
Russell - + lev 5 2
ChildofYa - yea one of the people that was in this room lives in tampa not to far from me
EliYah - I know of some other brethren in the Tampa area
ChildofYa - and they have been in the faith about as long as i have
EliYah - They meet in a park
EliYah - on Shabbat
Yahuwdiyth - When the apostles confired and said they should abstain from things strangled, blood and fornication then they said "they will do well" meaning they will progress well if they start there and then the scripture went on to record that "they will do well" and then in all the synagogues are those who preach Mosheh, meaning preaching the Law, so little by little they would come into the full accordance with the law instead of all at once?
EliYah - Yes
ChildofYa - where ? ;-)
EliYah - That was the intention, that they learn the Torah in the synagogues (Acts 15)
EliYah - Acts 15:21 - For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Yahuwdiyth - Thanks Eliyah...I was listening to my scripture tapes the other day and heartthat.
Yahuwdiyth - heard that
Yahuwdiyth - and it proves that the keeping away from things strangled, blood and fornication was only a start, milk, till they could take on meat.
Yahuwdiyth - The church don't wanna hear that.
Russell - That's very interesting, putting the important aspects first. Immersing and bringing them into the body of Yahushua, were they can enter an environment where the Rauch HaKodesh can transform them.
EliYah - yet, they themselves admit that we shouldn't steal or murder
Yahuwdiyth - They want the law nailed to their cross they preach.
EliYah - But those aren't among the forbidden things
Yahuwdiyth - They don't understand that only the law of sin and sacrifice or sin and stoning was done away with.
Yahuwdiyth - They think it was all done away with.
Yahuwdiyth - I love the law
tewey - paleotimes.org lists three groups meeting in the Florida area
ChildofYa - + Dan 9:27
tewey - I dont know anything about them
Yahuwdiyth - When you obey the law whether it be Yahweh's law or the Law of the Land then you are free.
Yahuwdiyth - Your not looking over your shoulder.
Yahuwdiyth - If I drive the speed limit I don't have to ever worry about getting a speeding ticket.
Russell - I have to disagree with ministers that will not "baptise into the church" until the person has complied with all rules of the scriptures, what is your view EliYah?
EliYah - The only requirement is repentance and (of course) accepting Yahushua
EliYah - Acts 2:37 - Now when they heard this, they were pricked