10/04/2002 Sabbath Meeting Transcript


"Holy Days or Unscriptural Traditions?"


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Jozef_Lydia - Almighty King, and Heavenly Father Yahweh, we praise and glorify Your Name and Your great reputation.
Jozef_Lydia - What a privilage to be aware of Your Greatness this Shabbat day.
Jozef_Lydia - We join the angels in heaven by singing: HOLY HOLY HOLY is YAHWEH Almighty .
Jozef_Lydia - What a wonderous gift to have consciensness of Your Greatness, and also of Your son and your children.
Jozef_Lydia - Please grant us today clemencee of our shortcomings and sin we might have commited knowingly and unknowingly.
Jozef_Lydia - And Love us as we have never been Loved before O' Father.
Jozef_Lydia - For Your Love is what we all are living for, Your food is what we are longing for, Your Water is the living Water.
Jozef_Lydia - Teach us again today to live life according to your will in this realm.
Jozef_Lydia - We know that your will never change, but we are young and inexperienced in life
Jozef_Lydia - and in need of repetition and clarification of Your Word daily.
Jozef_Lydia - Grant us each as individuals a quickening of Your word fitting for us today, shine Your light on that which we need to understand.
Jozef_Lydia - Fill our being with Your Holy Ruach ( Spirit ) and show us even clearer than before THE path of life.
Jozef_Lydia - Help us to change the things or remove that which are not pleasing to You, and please have patience with us mere mortals.
Jozef_Lydia - We also pray Your presence with all Your childeren, wherever they are gathered today, and also hear their prayers Father.
Jozef_Lydia - Thank You for Your infinite Patience Kindness and Mercy with all of us, and teach us also to be patient with our fellow pilgrims on this journey.
Jozef_Lydia - Words will always fail us to give You proper praise, but look in our hearts and read the joy we have in YOU dear Father.
Jozef_Lydia - And while You are there reach even further and remove any darkness and hidden sin, breach any weakness, and drive out any evil thing.
Jozef_Lydia - Renew our Hopes for better days, for Your Kingdom to come, and show us the reward, Your salvation.
Jozef_Lydia - We are also so thankfull for the ultimate sacrifice made by Your son on our behalve, for we have no way of repaying this free ticket to the Grant Final ever.
Jozef_Lydia - Our only offer is the praise of our lips, the praises we send up to You.
Jozef_Lydia - Through Your complete Word we have learned and have confidence that through Him You always hear us.
Jozef_Lydia - And it is in the Name of Yahushua, Your son, our Highpriest we offer this prayer.
Jozef_Lydia - So let it be. Hallelu-YAH

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

Last week, my family and I were greatly blessed in our observance of the Feast of Tabernacles/Sukkot.

We have been so very blessed by this feast with the fellowship, singing praise in the night, sharing and reading His word and giving honor to Yahweh throughout the feast.

Each year, we learn new things about what Yahweh wants for us in our lives and by these observances, our spiritual walk has been greatly blessed over the years.

But now that the feast has passed for many of us (though some are observing next month), I believe it is important that we go forth and proclaim the great blessing of keeping His holy days to all peoples and show them that there is a difference!

Yes, brothers and sisters there is a difference.

There is a stark contrast between the Holy Days of Yahweh and the un-holi-days of the world.

There is a difference between the holy and unholy. Yahweh wants us to teach the difference and distinguish the difference in our lives.

We are already in the time of year where the world's un-holi-days are beginning to begin its oppression.

2 weeks ago I walked in Wal-Mart and saw a dancing Santa Claus greeting us at the entrance

Ghosts, witches and goblins were throughout the store also

Tonight, I would like to consider what the scriptures have to say about incorporating pagan and/or additional observances into our worship and into our lives.

Before I begin I would like to say that the purpose of this message tonight is not to put others down, but to open the scriptures to those who might not realize certain truths within.

In no way do I believe we are above reproof, but we also must diligently seek to worship our Father in Spirit and in Truth!

In fact as each day passes, I see more and more of Yahweh's people from a Mainstream Christian background coming in contact with with more of Yahweh's people from a Mainstream Judaism background. This is absolutely wonderful (and prophetic!).

With this, it seems evident that each bring along what I like to call "Baggage". "Baggage" is usually in the form of thought patterns, observances or traditions that have been carried over from each one's previous denominations or religions.

What should we do with this "Baggage"?

I believe that we should inspect each others baggage as well as our own to see if it conforms with Yahweh's word.

As far as traditions are concerned, I do not believe that all traditions are bad.

Here is one tradition that is mentioned in Scripture:

Genesis 32:30 - And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen Elohim face to face, and my life is preserved.

Genesis 32:31 - And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.

Genesis 32:32 - Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob's thigh in the sinew that shrank.

In this text, there is no command to refrain from eating the meat that comes from this muscle area. However, we see a tradition that started in honor of Jacob.

There are other traditions within Mainstream Judaism that have been carried over into Messianic Judaism. I believe we must be diligent to consider where these traditions got their start. We should not assume that they got their start in scriptural ways.

The same is true of traditions carried over from mainstream Christianity as we will discuss in a moment. It is evident that Christmas, Easter and many other such customs got their start in unscriptural ways. Remember what Yahweh said to Israel:

Deuteronomy 12:28 - Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of YAHWEH thy Elohim.

Deuteronomy 12:29 - When YAHWEH thy Elohim shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;

Deuteronomy 12:30 - Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their elohim, saying, How did these nations serve their elohim? even so will I do likewise.

Deuteronomy 12:31 - Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim: for every abomination to YAHWEH, which he hateth, have they done unto their elohim; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their elohim.

Deuteronomy 12:32 - What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

From this (and Jeremiah 10) we learn that Yahweh doesn't want us picking up practices from false religions. We also learn that He doesn't want us adding to His commandments.

Yahushua warned that tradition can even cause us to break Yahweh's commandments:

Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.

Mark 7:8 - For laying aside the commandment of YAHWEH, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

Mark 7:9 - And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of YAHWEH, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Therefore, I would gather from scripture that we must keep in mind a few principles when coming across baggage and traditions:

1. Be absolutely sure it didn't come from pagan/idolatrous sources.

2. Be absolutely sure it doesn't break a commandment of Yahweh.

3. Don't make it into a commandment by looking down on others for not keeping to the tradition.

Yahushua and the disciples ignored the tradition of the elders requiring the washing of hands before eating

I think that it is important that we shouldn't assume that because those of us from a Christian background are experienced with Messianic or "new testament" scripture, that our baggage is somehow more likely to meet the above principles.

And we shouldn't assume that because those of us from a Judaism background are more experienced with the Tanakh or "Old Testament" scripture, that our baggage is somehow more likely to meet the above principles. I believe we have much to learn from one another.

Truly, we can all learn from one another, "Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."

Having said this, we do know that there are many that say it doesn't matter.

Many believe Yahweh 'doesn't mind' if we observe Christmas, Easter, Halloween and many other such practices that have roots in idolatrous worship.

The logic is, the meaning of these things 'has changed' and they no longer mean those things today. Therefore Yahweh 'doesn't mind' if we doing these things since we 'changed' them they have been "Christianized"

For examples, here are some responses that I have encountered over the years:

* It's okay to eat pork, the pig has been domesticated and is fed whole grains for it's food and is not roaming the earth eating garbage like it used to.

* It's okay to keep the Sabbath day on the first day instead of the 7th day because this is the day the Messiah resurrected. The 7th day is no longer kept by Christians so as long as you are keeping 'a Sabbath', Yahweh 'doesn't mind'.

* It's okay to keep Christmas, it used to be pagan but it doesn't mean that anymore

* It's okay to have the cross as the sign of our faith, it was pagan symbology but it doesn't mean that anymore

* It's okay to call Yahweh by the name of the Idol "God", it used to be pagan but it doesn't mean that anymore.

Within the logic of each of these statements, we find a common thread:

Each of them say that something has changed. Because of that change, what USED to be wrong is now considered right!

I do believe this to be a snare.

Let's consider first of all the scriptural prohibition of incorporating paganism into our worship in the first place.

When the children of Israel were about to go into the promised land, we read earlier that Yahweh commanded them not to even inquire after their gods

Yahweh didn't want them to 'learn the way of the heathen' at all! This is consistent with what Yahweh said later:

Jeremiah 10:2 - Thus saith YAHWEH, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

"Learn not the way of the heathen". Here are 2 commandments in scripture where we are told to not learn about pagan worship, much less apply their practices to the worship of Yahweh.

Incidentally, the "way of the heathen" that Jeremiah is referring to here is going to sound really familiar:

Jeremiah 10:3 - For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

Here comes the 'vain' custom

Jeremiah 10:4 - They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Remember what Yahushua said?

Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.

Deuteronomy 12:31 - Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim: for every abomination to YAHWEH, which he hateth, have they done unto their elohim; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their elohim.

Deuteronomy 12:32 - What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Yahweh says plainly "Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim". Do what? Worship Yahweh in the way the other nations worship their deities.

Don't learn it and don't do it.

We find more scriptural support in the "New Testament" scriptures:

Galatians 4:8 - But then, indeed, when you did not know YAHWEH, you served those which by nature are not mighty ones.

Galatians 4:9 - But now after you have known YAHWEH, or rather are known by YAHWEH, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage?

Galatians 4:10 - You observe days and months and seasons and years.

Galatians 4:11 - I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.

Here is a direct condemnation of continuing in those 'weak and beggarly elements' which were in paganism/idolatry.

This included the observance of certain days, months, times and years found within idolatry. Yahweh does not want us participating!

Some have tried to use this against those who observe the commanded feast days such as Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, etc. but Yahweh's commandments are not "weak and beggarly elements"!

The days that Yahweh calls "Holy" are not "weak and beggarly"

Rather, notice that this is (in context) referring to "returning" to things that serve idols

The fact is, Paul himself kept the feasts

Acts 18:20 - When they desired him to tarry longer time with them, he consented not;

Acts 18:21 - But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if YAHWEH will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

Surely he would be bringing condemnation upon himself in Galatians if he were referring to Yahweh's feasts and other observances.

Therefore, this is certainly talking about Gentiles 'turning again' to observances found in idolatry, not returning to Yahweh's commandments. For they weren't previously keeping Yahweh's commandments

We find the people of Judah were doing similar things in Jeremiah chapter 2. They were claiming that they weren't polluted with Baal, but Yahweh said:

Jeremiah 2:22 - For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Master YAHWEH.

Jeremiah 2:23 - How canst thou say, I am not polluted, I have not gone after Baalim? see thy way in the valley, know what thou hast done: thou art a swift dromedary traversing her ways;

They claimed they weren't polluted, but apparently their actions showed otherwise. Therefore it is certainly wrong to mix paganism and idolatrous ways of the heathen into our worship. Idolatrous practices are actually Satanic observances.

1Corinthians 10:20 - But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to Elohim: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

1Corinthians 10:21 - Ye cannot drink the cup of YAHWEH, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of YAHWEH's table, and of the table of devils.

The Gentiles--who thought they were sacrificing to their gods--were in reality sacrificing to demons/devils because Satan is behind all idolatrous worship.

Why would anyone believe it is okay to incorporate Satanism into our worship? How terrible! We cannot mix the two cups!

The Egyptians observed many of these pagan practices, what did Yahweh command Israel?

Leviticus 18:2 - Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am YAHWEH your Elohim.

Leviticus 18:3 - After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.

Leviticus 18:4 - Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am YAHWEH your Elohim.

Leviticus 18:5 - Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am YAHWEH.

They are told specifically to keep Yahweh's commandments, not the ones of the Egyptians nor the ones in the land of Canaan. Yet, we find in modern day mainstream Christianity that people are doing these very things.

We are told to keep Yahweh's commandments and not add to them nor take away from them:

Deuteronomy 12:32 - What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Did the children of Israel obey these commands?

Let's see:

Psalms 106:32 - They angered him also at the waters of strife, so that it went ill with Moses for their sakes:

Psalms 106:33 - Because they provoked his spirit, so that he spake unadvisedly with his lips.

Psalms 106:34 - They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom YAHWEH commanded them:

Psalms 106:35 - But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.

They did not. How about today, can we participate in pagan practices today? Should we learn their works and keep their ordinances?

Does Yahweh indeed have a double standard? Should we mingle among the heathen and learn their works? Certainly no.

Yahweh is no respecter of persons and shows no partiality.

Colossians 3:25 - But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

1Peter 1:13 - Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the favor that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Yahushua the Messiah;

1Peter 1:14 - as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance;

1Peter 1:15 - but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,

1Peter 1:16 - because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."

1Peter 1:17 - And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay [here] in fear;

On Judgment day, Yahweh will judge each without partiality or respecter of persons. If something was wrong in 2000BCE then it is also wrong in the 21st century. We are called to be holy in all our conduct. This means avoiding the unholy and embracing that which is holy.

The seventh day of the week is holy. We who are called to be holy should not profane it. The feast days are also holy days that should be kept holy

Can you imagine Yahweh saying to one person "okay.. you were a Jew in the year X, and you didn't keep the Sabbath.. you are condemned", but then the next person comes and he says "You were not a Jew in the year X and you didn't keep the sabbath.. enter into the joy of your Master!"??

Hebrews 13:7 - Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of YAHWEH to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct.

Hebrews 13:8 - Yahushua the Messiah is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Christmas, Easter, Cross symbols and various other 'strange doctrines' (though under different names) were alive and well in Yahushua's time and they are alive and well in the 21st century.

It was wrong then, and it is wrong now.

Consider this, if something was wrong in the year 300...in what year did it become acceptable to Yahweh?

301?

400?

500??

1900??

What day, hour, minute and second did it become "okay"?

The answer is NEVER. If it is wrong, it is still wrong.

Regardless of excuses, reasoning's, etc. there is one standard that we will be expected to live by on Judgment day and that is Yahweh's word. If Yahweh's word says it is wrong then it is ALWAYS wrong.

I have yet to see a pig chewing the cud. Until the day I see a pig chewing the cud, I will declare it UNCLEAN as Yahweh's word says. These are all attempts to undermine the word of Yahweh.

If it was wrong to change the Sabbath to Sunday in years gone by, it is wrong now.

If it was wrong to take heathen customs and apply them to Yahweh in years gone by, then it is wrong now.

Yahweh does not change.

Shouldn't the roots of our worship be in the scriptures rather than in idolatry and vain customs? Yet just the opposite is embraced today...all with a million excuses, none of which will stand.

What we need to stand on is the Word of Yahweh

He has provided us with holy days, right laws and just ways

Yahweh commands us to keep the feasts, keep the Sabbaths, call upon His name and walk in HIS ways, not the ways of the world.

Romans 12:2 - And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of YAHWEH.

If only those who picked up these pagan practices in centuries gone by had heeded this scripture!

For it's only when we refuse to be conformed to this world and we are willing to yield ourselves to transformation by the renewing of our mind will we know what the good and acceptable and perfect will of Yahweh.

We should not pick up any practice, whether it is from Christianity or Judaism unless we know for a 100% absolute fact that the practice did not come from idolatry

It is time to forsake vain tradition and to walk in the commandments of Yahweh! The truth is not to be found in mainstream Christianity and the truth is not to be found in mainstream Judaism. I keep finding that it is right down the middle of both, minus the baggage!

Our Fathers have inherited lies, but let's worship our Father in Spirit and in truth:

John 4:23 - But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Yahweh is seeking a remnant who will worship Him in Spirit and in truth, not vain and idolatrous worship from the gods of Egypt in generations past.

Joshua 24:14 - Now therefore fear YAHWEH, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the elohim which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye YAHWEH.

HalleluYah, when all is said and done we can know that we are doing right if our conduct is FROM and ACCORDING TO the Word of Yahweh.

Let's put away the practices of the wicked and lets embrace the practices found in the word of Yahweh. The Word of Yahweh is Yahushua the Messiah. We know that He never observed such things, nor did He command them. Therefore let us walk as He walked!

1John 2:4 - He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1John 2:5 - But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of YAHWEH is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.

1John 2:6 - He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Let's walk as He walked. We cannot go wrong!

We can rest in this promise. He who abides in Him should walk as He walke

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Therefore, let's allow Yahushua the Messiah to be in us to do the works that He did on earth IN US. Let's allow the Spirit of Yahweh to convict our hearts to worship our Almighty Father Yahweh in Spirit and in TRUTH...

...no matter what year we live in.

May Yahweh bless you and may He have mercy on us all!

End


BrBob - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
Obed-away - Hallelu Yah !!!
Angel - HalleluYah
downlo - HalleluYAH!!
Jozef_Lydia - Praise YAHWEH for His WORD of wisdom and corrections HALLELUYAH \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
Dan95670 - Hallel-Yah
LovingYah - AMEIN
dbent777 - Praise his most high YAHWEH
ahgharron - Omeyn!
ahgharron - Omeyn!
bpenwell - Praise Yahweh
histalmid - \0/ \0/ Praise Yahweh
Kefa - Praise Yahweh!!!!!!!!
LovingYah - ARGUE With everyone BETTYAH
ahgharron - May Yah restore all to us.
LovingYah - Amein
LovingYah - Yeah
Ann - Praise Yahweh
ahgharron - May these pagan days be burned away from time itself.
LovingYah - Yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
duane - HalleluYah!
LovingYah - yep
Jamie - HalleluYah \O/
JaanK - +Mk 7 14
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Berean }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
vgmc - too much noise downstairs
downlo - Shabbat shalom All good night :)
Jamie - i would love to see that, Ahgharron
Berean - Shabbat Shalom {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Mishpacha}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
JaanK - +Mk 7 13
BrBob - y'all OK?
JaanK - Amen!
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom Berean :)
JaanK - Happy Sabbath!
Angel - Happy Sabbath to you Jaan!
histalmid - Shabbat Shalom everyone
LovingYah - has anyone been to Nydles congre? in here?
JaanK - Happy Sabbath, Angel and Everyone!
ahgharron - Nydles congre???
vgmc - I've yet to see "Omega Code" even though I taped it about 2 weeks ago
LovingYah - Ed Nydle
LovingYah - Iowa
LovingYah - nvm
vgmc - What state is Nydles?
LovingYah - Iowa
Jamie - OMega Code is all right
Angel - vgmc, are you talking about Meggido?
JaanK - I once talked to someone who said that Sabbath was only for the Jews.
vgmc - That hasn't come on PAX yet
Jamie - the Sabbath was around before 'Judah' even
JaanK - I said, but the 4th commandment says not only you are to rest, but also your maidservent and manservent
Angel - I have Meggido on CD
JaanK - They said the maidservent and manservents would be Jews
vgmc - The Sabbath was made for MA
vgmc - N
JaanK - I said, but it says that even the stranger in your gates should rest on the sabbath.
Jamie - is it good, Angel?
JaanK - He said, the stranger was probably Jewish
Angel - yes Jamie very good
vgmc - PS2 includes DVD player, so...
ahgharron - What is Meggido????
Jozef_Lydia - People in this world create Heros to worship them, and a good example are the Sportstars, and Popstars as well as Moviestars.., Fallen stars?
Jamie - I need to get it
JaanK - So I said, but the 4th commandment says that even your oxen should rest on the Sabbath.
JaanK - He was silent.
vgmc - sequel to Omega Code
Jamie - the oxen were Jewish too don't ya know?
JaanK - For those who say the Sabbath is only for the Jews, why did even the oxen rest on that day? Where the oxens Jews too?
Angel - Meggido is a movie about the coming Armageddon
vgmc - too few theatres showed the first one; the ones near me were too far away as my vehicle did not work at the time
hadassah - Isn't it because they think the commandments are Moses' and not Yahwehs
Jozef_Lydia - (((((((((((((((((((((BrMark))))))))))))))))))))))))
ahgharron - Agggh!
BrMark - shalom achi
ahgharron - Man, I hate that movie!
LovingYah - Bett Yah stop harrasing me and goto the main room if u wanna call me occult Cause I am on the right path
LovingYah - and we know Truth
ahgharron - It is not anywhere near the Truth.
LovingYah - Stop it
LovingYah - go to Yahoo
vgmc - ?
ahgharron - but I will relent, and stay off my usual soapbox.
LovingYah - what movie
ahgharron - Omega Code.
BrMark - pre-trib trash
LovingYah - oh
ahgharron - I will refrain from speaking further on it.
LovingYah - she he left
ahgharron - I will only listen.
ahgharron - oops.
ahgharron - shoot.
LovingYah - oops
vgmc - (bang)
ahgharron - I made a booboo didn't I?
Jamie - what in the world
LovingYah - what
LovingYah - where do u come from BetttYah
Jamie - who is BettYah?
LovingYah - tellin Me I am PAGAN followin Yahwhe
LovingYah - she he is pmin me
LovingYah - now
ahgharron - well speak with him/her.
ahgharron - and be gentle.
LovingYah - I am
LovingYah - ack
ahgharron - give love.
LovingYah - i am
Jamie - yep
ahgharron - instruct with honey.
Jamie - compassion
LovingYah - hmm
ahgharron - good.
LovingYah - oh ok
LovingYah - lol
ahgharron - and get to it.
ahgharron - before she/he sees we are writing all of this.
LovingYah - tells me that I am Legalistic I neva said anything to he she
vgmc - cold-brew tea, cold coffee/milk mix...wow, I can have refreshment without even going near a stove
Angel - why don't you do it ahgharron?
ahgharron - well.
LovingYah - sh e he left
LovingYah - hmm
LovingYah - i am

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