BrTom - Almighty Father in heaven, we praise you and thank you for all the blessings you pour upon us.
BrTom - We thank you most of all for your son, Yahshua..
BrTom - At this time of year we think about the great salvation You have prepared for us through him.
BrTom - and we are in awe of your goodness to the children of men.
BrTom - HalleluYah
BrTom - HalleluYah
BrTom - Father, we ask for your presence
BrTom - here this evening to guide all that is said.
BrTom - Open our minds and hearts to your words..
BrTom - and direct our paths in your ways.
BrTom - Guide and direct the speaker tonight and send your Spirit to teach us.
BrTom - In Yahshua's name we pray and praise you!
BrTom - HalleluYAH!!!
John 6:53 - Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
John 6:54 - Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55 - For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56 - He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:57 - As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
John 6:58 - This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
John 6:59 - These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
John 6:60 - Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
John 6:61 - When Yahushua knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
John 6:62 - What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
John 6:64 - But there are some of you that believe not. For Yahushua knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
John 6:65 - And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
John 6:66 - From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.When we see a 'hard saying' in His word, it isn't the source that we ought to question but always ask "What is its meaning as Yahweh intended?"
John 6:67 - Then said Yahushua unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.Is Yahweh enough?
Psalms 17:14 - From men which are thy hand, O YAHWEH, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.
Psalms 17:15 - As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.When Yahweh is truly in us, there is no want for things of this world
Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of YAHWEH, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Matthew 5:6 - Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Philippians 3:7 - But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for the Messiah.
Philippians 3:8 - Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of the Messiah Yahushua my Master: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win the Messiah,There simply is nothing to compare to Yahweh.
Psalms 89:6 - For who in the heaven can be compared unto YAHWEH? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto YAHWEH?Therefore, even in the midst of a long, tough day at work or wherever we are...think back to these scriptures and realize that all these things are temporary and that in the end their importance in comparison to Yahweh is nothing.
Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.In life's troubles..to whom shall we go?
Psalms 73:24 - Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.
Psalms 73:25 - Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.
Psalms 73:26 - My flesh and my heart faileth: but Elohim is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.This is what all of us need to continually learn. We often by our human reasoning try to resolve something when one mightier than we has all the answers.
James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of YAHWEH, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.So when we ask Yahweh for wisdom in faith, He will give it. This is a promise! He is the source of wisdom and the source of truth
Philippians 2:21 - For all seek their own, not the things which are Yahushua the Messiah's.When we need salvation, to whom shall we go?
Ecclesiastes 7:20 - For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
1John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1John 1:10 - If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.If we all have sinned, then to whom shall we go?
Jeremiah 23:5 - Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jeremiah 23:6 - In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.Yahweh can be our righteousness if we repent and and walk in His ways. He has made a way for us to be forgiven for our sins.
Joshua 24:15 - And if it seem evil unto you to serve YAHWEH, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the elohim which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the elohim of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve YAHWEH.Is this a once in a lifetime decision?
Psalms 119:160 - Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.Therefore, will we hold onto the hand that does not change?
Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.Any worship toward Him that He has not ordained is vain.
John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 - My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.Oh to be in that hand forever!
Isaiah 55:6 - Seek ye YAHWEH while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isaiah 55:7 - Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto YAHWEH, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our Elohim, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isaiah 55:8 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith YAHWEH.
Isaiah 55:9 - For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:10 - For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
Isaiah 55:11 - So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.Yahweh will be here soon and we MUST seek Him while He may be found!!!!!
Ecclesiastes 12:1 - Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
Ecclesiastes 12:2 - While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain:
Ecclesiastes 12:3 - In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened,
Ecclesiastes 12:4 - And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low;
Ecclesiastes 12:5 - Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:
Ecclesiastes 12:6 - Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto Elohim who gave it.
Ecclesiastes 12:8 - Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.Yahweh has said:
Proverbs 8:17 - I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.and again
Jeremiah 29:13 - And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.Therefore, let us always seek Yahweh in ALL things. To whom shall we go?
BrTom - HalleluYAH!!
BrHoss - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\\o/\o/HALLELUYAH!!!!!!!!\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
Amatsyah - Amen!!
EliYah - Are there any questions or comments?
BrBob - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================
Beverley - Thsnk you for this food!!!!
RLW - Thank you EliYah :)
BrHoss - HOWDY pilgrim
Angel - halleluYah! \o/ \o/
RLW - HalleluYAH!!!!!!!!!
SusanLynn - Amen
Amatsyah - Yahweh Bless you Eliyah!
danYAHEL - hallaluYAH |O/
Netzarim - Powerful brother...
EliYah - HalleluYah! :)
Berean - Praise YAHWEH!
BrBob - Shalom Berean !
Beverley - ;^)
BrTom - Yahweh is our strength!
TrustInYHWH - Shalom fishergirl !
Berean - Jeremiah 29:13 - And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for
Berean - me with all your heart.
BrBob - Shalom fishergirl !
EliYah - He is always there for us!
BrBob - Shalom RLW !
EliYah - 24/7 :)
BrBob - Shalom CRuth !
BrHoss - Shabbat Shalom yosefina
SusanLynn - I don't know what you meant by false names/false baptisms.
BrBob - Shalom SusanLynn !
yosefina - Shalom everyone!
danYAHEL - + pro 7 2
Caleb - yosefina are you in N.C.?
danYAHEL - by all isreal
SusanLynn - Shalom BrBob
CRuth - Shalom
EliYah - SusanLynn, well some baptize and call on the name of Jesus but this is not His name
yosefina - Caleb, I'm in SC
Beverley - Shalom Yosefina
yosefina - Where are you?
Caleb - ok
yosefina - SHalom, Bev
Caleb - Ga
SusanLynn - I don't understand that either.
CRuth - Shalom Beverley
Beverley - Shalom Ruth
EliYah - What don't you understand SusanLynn?
SusanLynn - I only know one name, Jesus.
fishergirl - Is this a messianic jew room? Its my first time here and I joined late
BrTom - Why we say 'Jesus' is a false name?
TrustInYHWH - Well yes and no, fishergirl
Angel - MY testimony is that I had answered prayer for my tooth is healed and the court case gave me a favorable decision. Thank you for your prayers and PRAISE YAHWEH!
Ruth - shalom Beverley :)
fishergirl - yes and no
EliYah - SusanLynn, His true name is Yahushua
Amatsyah - Hello Fisher girl
fishergirl - Hi all
EliYah - When He walked the earth, this is what He was called. Yahshua is the name that the disciples were praying in and baptizing in and receiving so much criticism for preaching in :)
TrustInYHWH - nondenominational
BrBob - What religion am I? ... I am a non-Jewish, Messianic worshiper of YAHWEH the Father, and a follower of his son YAHSHUA.
SusanLynn - Must be Hebrew?
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ fishergirl }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
SusanLynn - But we speak English.
fishergirl - I follow Yeshua myself, I do not ascribe to any religion however, a reality of life is more like it
BrBob - Hebrew does not = Jewish
BrTom - Yahshua is Hebrew for Yah saves!
BrHoss - HOWDY fishergirl
BrBob - check our web site fishergirl
EliYah - SusanLynn, we say the Hebrew word "Abraham" even though we speak English
BrTom - Yah = short for Yahweh, the Father's name.
Caleb - SusanLynn, Jesus is a name which came about through the translation of the name of Yahshua through a couple of other languages
BrBob - Praise Yah
EliYah - Should we not offer the same honor to the Savior of the whole world?
BrBob - Better watch that BrHoss guy, he's a batchelor
BrBob - sp
fishergirl - Why do you put a W in the name of YHVH?
Beverley - Jesus is a substitute name not a translation
SusanLynn - OK. So if one was baptized in "Jesus'" name, one was not truly baptized?
TrustInYHWH - Eliyah, when you get around to the prayer....pray for Cindy again.
Ruth - laila tov all - sleepy..... :)
EliYah - They were baptized, but not correctly
Angel - HalleluYAH means "praise you Yah"
BrBob - I was re-baptised SL
EliYah - Fishergirl, originally..Hebrew had a W for V
Beverley - Layla Tov Ruth
BrTom - V is OK too, fishergirl. Experts differ.
EliYah - ok TIY
BrBob - yes
SusanLynn - Kind of like how Sunday got substituted for Saturday sabbaths?
Angel - shalom Ruth
BrBob - Not
Ruth - cya next week :)
BrTom - Yep
EliYah - Yes, SusanLynn
CRuth - Layla tov!
EliYah - You got it :)
Angel - Yah bless
Amatsyah - Good nite Ruth
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom Ruth !!
BrBob - says goodbye and so-long to Ruth
BrBob - Shalom Ruth !
Berean - Favor and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of YAHWEH and Yahshua our Master, Ruth
yosefina - Netzarim, I sent you a private message
Netzarim - answered...
Angel - shalom yosefina
EliYah - Lyla Tov CRuth :)
SusanLynn - OK. So if I was baptized in the name of "Jesus" I would need to be rebaptized, also I was baptized in a Sunday keeping church 30 years ago, so I would therefore need rebaptism?
yosefina - Shalom, Angel!!!
EliYah - (Good night :)
TrustInYHWH - ditto
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom Angel !!
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom yosefina !!
EliYah - I would recommend being baptized correctly
Beverley - Yes Susanlynn
Angel - shabbat shalom TIY
EliYah - I have a study on this
BrTom - Most want to be baptized in the correct name.
BrBob - In my opinion SL the answer would be.....by your faith be it unto you, but I would say yes.
SusanLynn - I sort of thought I should. It has been on my mind.
fishergirl - Wait, I am confused, why does susilyn need to be rebaptized?
BrBob - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
SusanLynn - Not the true church.
TrustInYHWH - Do you really think one's original baptism is worthless?
EliYah - SusanLynn, I know a brother who will travel anywhere in the Eastern US to do this.
Amatsyah - Good nite to all and may we all have a blessed AT-one-ment !!
Caleb - that is correct SasanLynn
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom Amatsyah !!
SusanLynn - I will take you up on that EliYah.
Angel - we don't get baptized into a church, but into the Body of Messiah Yahshua
BrTom - SL is near Eaton Rapids.
BrHoss - Happy Trails Amatsyah
fishergirl - Wait, I am confused, why does susilyn need to be rebaptized?
SusanLynn - True Angel, I'm not too good with words.
BrTom - Elder Sam Graham will do it.
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Amatsyah }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Berean - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ BrBob }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
TrustInYHWH - Do you really think one's original baptism is worthless?
Berean - Favor and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of YAHWEH and Yahshua our Master, BrBob
EliYah - Yes, true BrTom
Beverley - Layla Tov anatsyah
BrBob - Favor and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of YAHWEH and Yahshua our Master, Berean
EliYah - TIY, Worthless..no
EliYah - But once one finds a truth it would be natural to want to do it right
BrBob - No, TIY, I don't feel that it was......
BrTom - The scriptures say to be immersed in the name of the Master Yahushua the Messiah.
yosefina - Eliyah, maybe we need to be put in touch with the traveling baptizer!
BrBob - Not at the time
BrHoss - Shabbat Shalom searching
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom BrHoss !!
EliYah - If anyone wants to be baptized in the true name, just email me and I can help you
BrBob - Shalom searching !
BrHoss - HOWDY TrustInYHWH
TrustInYHWH - Visiting BrBob
Caleb - SusanLynn, did you say this is your first time in this chat room?
Beverley - I caourious did any one baptize Peter who was with us a month ago?
SusanLynn - Mine, yes. My nephew was here last week under Stewy2u
BrBob - Bob, Please tell me about the Sabbath group and meeting.........Roger Norman......Thanks EliYah
EliYah - No prob. BrBob :)
Angel - +Acts 19:4 5
SusanLynn - My nephew's been sober now for 21 days!
Angel - rebaptized
EliYah - Beverly, who are you talking about?
BrBob - Hoss, and Berean, we may have a newcommer
EliYah - HalleluYah, SusanLynn :)
Caleb - EliYah, won't they be baptising at the feast next week?
Beverley - A man name Peter.. about a; month ago was asking about baptism
EliYah - I'm sure they would be
BrBob - Shalom Love_Lifted_ !
fishergirl - SusanLynn, If I understand correctly and I may not, you can be baptized in Jesus's name, that is His name if you speak Englsih
BrTom - +Acts 4 12
EliYah - Fishergirl, who gave him that english name?
pilgrim - Please pray for us, brothers and sisters! This sacred name issue is becoming a real test for souls in our local church.... Pray that we will have wisdom and be faithful this Sabbath and the weeks to come
Beverley - He was from up north some place..
fishergirl - the translators of the original 1611 kjv Eli
BrBob - The answer is yes, if the storm doesn't mess things up, so better pray about that
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ pilgrim }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
EliYah - Do we trust in a man invented name?
BrBob - Yahweh bless you, and keep you. Yahweh make his face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you. Yahweh lift up his countenance upon you, and give you (HIS) peace...... pilgrim
SusanLynn - I think there's a scripture in Jude - "Return to the faith that was once given to the fathers" and it's a struggle finding it!
Love_Lifted_ - Shalom, BrBob:O)
EliYah - Or the name give from heaven?
BrTom - Yes Pilgrim. Where is the Assembly?
BrHoss - HOWDY adam
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom Caleb !!
adam - hi
fishergirl - It wasn't an invented name, it was a transliteration, so do you follow any of the bible at all eli?
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom crash !!
EliYah - Hi adam!
BrBob - Shalom adam !
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ crash }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
EliYah - fishergirl, yes. As originally given
fishergirl - It was all translated or do you use the massera
adam - hi, Eliyah
BrTom - Shalom Adam!
adam - sorry I'm late...
EliYah - no prob, good to see you
adam - thank you, BrTom
Caleb - EliYah, isn't there a verse that says, "there is no other name given under heaven whereby men might be saved"?
EliYah - Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
EliYah - yes
EliYah - :)
TrustInYHWH - fishergirl, actually if we translated Yahshua into English, it would probably be closer to Joshua.
BrBob - exqctly
BrBob - oops
fishergirl - Yes exactly!
EliYah - Personal names are not translated. For instance, Yitzhak Rabin is Yitzhak Rabin in any language. A general name may have different forms, but we are talking about a Personal name.
BrBob - exactly
SusanLynn - EliYah, what translation do you read scripture from?
fishergirl - Joshua was a type of savior also in the OT
SusanLynn - Thanks Caleb! for the verse.
EliYah - NKJV but I restore the names as I read
BrBob - 400 yrs ago there was no J
Caleb - the KJV
adam - why not read Hebrew and Greek?
TrustInYHWH - fishergirl, when they use Joshua in the OT, they ARE talking about Yahshua
fishergirl - I understand what you are saying Eli, really I do, I use many references when I study to go back to the origianl language
SusanLynn - I could if I could.
BrTom - Working on it.
Netzarim - Our Saviors name has specific meaning, Jesus does NOT have that meaning and may even be derived from a pagan god...
Angel - right Trust in Yahweh!
SusanLynn - As Ishtar for Easter.
adam - geek or Greek?
fishergirl - Amen Susan
BrBob - hehe
Love_Lifted_ - hehe
adam - :-)
BrBob - rofl
adam - I am curious...how many in here are actually Jewish?
BrBob - : p
fishergirl - Br do you study the old and new testament?
SusanLynn - Not me.
fishergirl - not me
BrBob - not I
EliYah - Are there any prayer requests?
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