Berean - Our Father in Heaven, Thank You for this day You have given .
Berean - Thank You Father, for the fellowship, the protection, and the guidance, You give to us on this Sabbath, and during the week
Berean - Thank You for the prayers you answer, and the blessings you give us, and, especially, for the ones we do not see
Berean - We ask Father, that you help us to learn to see these
Berean - that we may be thankful for them
Berean - Father we ask, for guidance, direction, and that you bring us closer to you, in our hearing, and reading of your word
Berean - we ask for cleansing Father, the washing by the water of Your Word
Berean - we ask, that you inspire the message, and that you open our ears, and give us all discernment
Berean - we ask Father, help us to grow, and develope
Berean - and to walk in Your way
Berean - we pray Father, that in All things, Your will be done
Berean - and we ask, in Your Son's Name Yahshua
Berean - HalleluYah!!!
Matthew 4:4 - But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of YAHWEH.He was quoting the Torah/Law of Yahweh here. Let's examine the context.
Deuteronomy 8:2 - And thou shalt remember all the way which YAHWEH thy Elohim led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
Deuteronomy 8:3 - And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of YAHWEH doth man live.It is a fact that we will endure trials and tribulations.
Isaiah 55:1 - Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
Isaiah 55:2 - Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.We must 'eat'!!
Luke 10:25 - And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luke 10:26 - He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
Luke 10:27 - And he answering said, Thou shalt love YAHWEH thy Elohim with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luke 10:28 - And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.Do this and you will live. His words bring life. They teach us.
Luke 8:11 - Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of YAHWEH.
Luke 8:12 - Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Luke 8:13 - They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Luke 8:14 - And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
Luke 8:15 - But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.Absorbing His word into our minds can fulfill us like nothing else
Proverbs 12:26 - The righteous is more excellent than his neighbour: but the way of the wicked seduceth them.As I have often said, Words are "spirit".
John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.This is where the keeping the sabbath is so very essential to our spiritual growth
Exodus 20:9 - Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exodus 20:10 - But the seventh day is the sabbath of YAHWEH thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exodus 20:11 - For in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore YAHWEH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.Yahweh wants all His people to rest and keep holy the Sabbath
Isaiah 56:1 - Thus saith YAHWEH, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Isaiah 56:2 - Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isaiah 56:3 - Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to YAHWEH, speak, saying, YAHWEH hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isaiah 56:4 - For thus saith YAHWEH unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isaiah 56:5 - Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isaiah 56:6 - Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHWEH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHWEH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isaiah 56:7 - Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.It was true in those days..and true today
John 2:4 - Yahushua saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
1John 2:4 - He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1John 2:5 - But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of YAHWEH is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:17 - Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.The Holy Spirit can be quenched by breaking the Sabbath just as it is quenched by murder, adultery, idolatry or any other disobedience.
Acts 5:32 - And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, whom Elohim hath given to them that obey him.Truly, when we disobey the truth given to us, then Yahweh will not convict us on more truth
Philippians 4:8 - Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.Watching TV, listening to the radio, surfing the internet and reading magazines are all fertile soil for unrighteous thoughts to be sown
Revelations 3:1 - "And to the angel of the assembly in Sardis write, `These things says He who has the seven Spirits of YAHWEH and the seven stars: "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.
Revelations 3:2 - "Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before YAHWEH.
Revelations 3:3 - "Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.Therefore, be zealous and Repent of that old sin that has been strangling us for months, years... For we do not know when Yahshua will appear.
1Peter 1:21 - who through Him believe in YAHWEH, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in YAHWEH.
1Peter 2:1 - Therefore, laying aside all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking,
1Peter 2:2 - as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,
1Peter 2:3 - if indeed you have tasted that YAHWEH is kind.I have tasted. You have tasted.
Ezeki`El - Allelu Yah!
Ezeki`El - Shabbath shalom gang
Berean - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ EliYah }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Ezeki`El - good msg
Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YHWH!!
Beverley - 9\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ o\o/
danYAHEL - ^ YAHG
TrustInYHWH - HalleluYah!! \o/ HalleluYahweh!!
BrBob - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
BrBob - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================
danYAHEL - YAH
Beverley - YHWH thank you for this food!!!!! HalleluYah
danYAHEL - YAH
man - Praise Yahweh
Caleb - HalleluYah!!!!
Ebed - Praise YAHWEH!
Angel - HalleluYah!
BrBob - Shabbat Shalom
Beverley - Shalom ebed
BrTom - HalleluYAH
adam - "thy words were found, and I DID eat"...thank you for serving dinner...
Ebed - Shalom Beverley
BrBob - .nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.nn _ Shabbat Shalom, Ebed _ nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.
BrBob - ..nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.nn_ Shabbat Shalom, Ebed nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.nn..
BrBob - .nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.nn _ Shabbat Shalom, Ebed _ nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.nn.
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom buddya :)
EliYah - (Shabbat Shalom = Peaceful Sabbath)
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ TrustInYHWH }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Ebed - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ BrBob }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
buddya - Shabbat Shalom
Beverley - Shalom Muzzi
Chz - shabbot shalom brethren
Angel - WARNING! about a new virus, the "Budweiser Frogs" a screensaver.
TrustInYHWH - hahahahaha
Ezeki`El - hardy har har!
TrustInYHWH - Angel
LadyCAD - really? whats it do?
adam - are we to hear these wavs?
TrustInYHWH - Nothing
Angel - yes,
TrustInYHWH - *ribbet*
Ezeki`El - yeah :)
adam - I hear nothing.
Chz - shabbot shalom bro. Amats-Yah
Angel - it completely craches your hard drive
Angel - and your computer becomes useless
adam - eliyah?
Berean - chaqar saysShabbat Shalom all
Al - BrBob what have you spilt
Angel - We received this warning by the owner of our server today
EliYah - Yes, adam?
TrustInYHWH - there is no budweiser frog virus
adam - is the sabbath Saturday or Sunday?
TrustInYHWH - it's a hoax
BrTom - Saturday
Saly - Shabbat Shalom chaqar and everone!
Berean - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Saly }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
BrTom - 7th day
Beverley - Shalom Saly
EliYah - The orginal true Sabbath is from friday evening to saturday evening according to scripture
TrustInYHWH - Adam, look saturday up in Websters
TrustInYHWH - original?
BrBob -
Amats-Yah - we've got two invitations so far
adam - is the day as important as the concept? I truly am asking...
TrustInYHWH - what other Sabbath is there
Angel - the name of the file is "Budwaver.Exe (24643 bytes do not download it!
Gregoryahu - Is there anyone who is Ruach-filled Yahwist? and learn to rely upon Yahweh's Spirit....
Beverley - Yes the day and the concept are important
EliYah - Truly, none. Other than what man has invented
Ezeki`El - me :)
BrBob - The day is important to Yahweh
JaanK - That was a very good service EliYah! :)
EliYah - The day and the concept are both important
EliYah - He sanctified the day
IceDove - thankyou for the message today EliYah
adam - but did HE have a calendar?
TrustInYHWH - Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath
IceDove - goodbye
JaanK - It is a good idea not to download any unknown *.exe files of the internet
Stewy - The Sabbath is the Seal of God.
Berean - Shalom Aleichem IceDove
TrustInYHWH - \o/ Praise Yahweh!!! \o/
BrBob - Bye sis
EliYah - Glad to share, Icedove...bye for now
Stewy - Sabbath breaking is the mark of the beast.
BrBob - Could be stewy
TrustInYHWH - JaanK: yes it is, but it's a better idea to use antivirus software
Stewy - I have no doubt it is :)
Al - n squares code before your Sabbath peace message
Ebed - +exod 31 16-17
Gregoryahu - what happen?
Amats-Yah - yes that's what I heard
BroJaan - Hi Angel!
Berean - +ex 13 9
Al - anybody else get that?
Berean - no
EliYah - Yes, that is colors if you have a special program, Al
BroJaan - Yah Bless you, Angel!
Angel - Jaan are you receiving my messages?
IceDove - bye bye and have a good sabbath
BrTom - Yahweh set the Sabbath aside for His purposes. Nothing any man can do can make that time not dedicated.
IceDove - :)
BroJaan - I'm not receiving any messages from you
adam - what do you mean, BrTom?
TrustInYHWH - Yahweh set it aside for us
Al - o.k. thank you
TrustInYHWH - Yahweh needs no Sabbath.
adam - I am asking if a setting aside of Sunday is the same as a setting aside of Saturday...
BrBob - I see what you mean Al, sorry for the jibberish.....
TrustInYHWH - adam, Yahweh designated the 7th day as the Sabbath
EliYah - It's different because Yahweh didn't sanctify the 1st day of the week
Stewy - It's the difference between agreement with anti-christ and an agreement with Yahweh.
TrustInYHWH - Saturday is defined as the 7th day
BrBob - true
BrTom - No matter what any church or person says about it or what time they want to keep, The Seventh Day is still YAHWEH's Sabbath.
BrBob - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
BrBob - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================
BroJaan - You know I was reading the Catholic Catacism
TrustInYHWH - although Saturday is a Roman term I believe
adam - Stewy, I certainly don't want to do that...but you repeatedly say that these days are Yahweh's days but then you use a Jewish calendar, no?
BroJaan - In the Catacism, it says Saturday is the Sabbath
Muzz1 - Shabbat shalom Beverley and everyone! ...from down-under in aussieland!!
EliYah - Genesis 2:2 - And on the seventh day Elohim ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Berean - (Exo 31:13 KJV) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am YHWH that doth sanctify you.
EliYah - Genesis 2:3 - And Elohim blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which Elohim created and made.
TrustInYHWH - the Pope is trying to change that
Beverley - Shalom Muzzi
Ebed - +prov 14:12
Stewy - No. I use a Gregorian calendar.
TrustInYHWH - Make Sunday official Sabbath around the world.
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EliYah - he won't succedd
EliYah - Succeed
adam - I guess I find confusion in attaching significance to any day as the 7th..by what standard is the question...God never said he finished on Friday ""
TrustInYHWH - Christians won't care
adam - you are Christians, no?
BrTom - The calendar the Jews use is close to Yahweh's calendar.
TrustInYHWH - He said he finished on the 6th day
adam - yes, but the Jewish calendar was not in existence then...
Ezeki`El - Christianity was a Jewish sect
EliYah - In the New Testament, the first day of the week is called "The first (day) of the week" but the 7th day of the week is called the "Sabbath day"
Ezeki`El - due to a church i wont mention, it's become a wholly new and distinct religion
TrustInYHWH - Zeek: sshhhh, don't say that too loudly
adam - oh, and forgive me if I sound authoritarian...I ask all for a sincere answer to things I don't know...
Berean - (Exo 31:17 KJV) It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days YHWH made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
TrustInYHWH - Sabbath means "rest", right?
EliYah - Yes, tiy
Ezeki`El - hehe
Beverley - YHWH's calendar was created that first week.
TrustInYHWH - what do you mean the jewish calendar is "close" to Yahweh's?
BrTom - Sabbath is from the Hebrew for seventh, I believe.
adam - I am asking, if I work Monday thru Friday...that is 5 days...Saturday is the sixth, Sunday becomes the seventh and I fast and pray all day...is that NOT keeping of the sabbath...I know you will answer "NO" because you believe Saturday to be distinct...
adam - are we keeping the sabbath or Saturday?
EliYah - It's keeping A Sabbath but it's not keeping THE Sabbath
waz - with the sabbath thing how does Rom 14:5-8 fit in. That's the verse whic talks about different opinions regarding holy days
BrTom - Sabbath
TrustInYHWH - adam, Webster's dictionary defines Saturday as the 7th day
BrBob -
Stewy - World Wide Church of God?
EliYah - I have a study on that, waz... http://eliyah.com/romans14.html
Ezeki`El - Firing up the 'ol Web Browser
BrBob - Ah so
man - +heb 4 9 10
Stewy - I heard they fell away
BrBob - I was one of them....
man - +heb 4 9
Stewy - What are you now?
adam - test
BrBob - What religion am I? ... I am a non-Jewish, Messianic worshiper of YAHWEH the Father, and a follower of his son YAHSHUA.
adam - djfkd
Stewy - But are you a member of a church?
BrBob - How's that
Ezeki`El - can i ask a question?
EliYah - yes, eze
Stewy - Sorry, I meant an organized part of the body
adam - sorry, I got booted...
Ezeki`El - during the OT, what were Gentiles/Goyim who worshipped YHWH called?
BrBob - I'm part of this one.... http://www.cyberramp.net/~dlmartin/
Ezeki`El - Firing up the 'ol Web Browser
DelaYah - proselytes
BrBob - Goard head
Berean - Grafted
Ezeki`El - is that good or bad connotation?
TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom all!!
BroJaan - As I was saying, the Roman Catholic Catacism acknowledges Saturday as the Sabbath
TrustInYHWH - HalleluYah!! \o/ HalleluYahweh!!
BrBob - hehe
Ezeki`El - NIghtey-night Trust :)
Stewy - Are there a group of believers near you?
adam - what do you mean, BroJaan...is that to solidify Saturday as the sabbath?
EliYah - Stranger, foreigner. They were part of Israel in Yahweh's eyes.
EliYah - Exodus 12:49 - One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
BroJaan - And the Roman Catholic Catacism however instructs us to worship and keep Sunday
BroJaan - By what authority?
BroJaan - By the authority of the church
adam - hmmm...seems contradictory, yes?
Stewy - The Pope's authority.
BroJaan - Right
Ebed - +prov 14:12
Ezeki`El - i think the ones with the strongest convictions became Gerim/converts and eventually their children were "Jews"
Ezeki`El - correct me if im wrong
BrBob -
BroJaan - It was the Catholic church that changed the day of rest from the Sabbath to Sunday, not the early church
Al - Chanak is that indian
Stewy - Satan's church.
adam - so to keep Sunday as the sabbath...to hallow that day as the 1/7th rest of one's week is sinning?
EliYah - The Catholics would go around and destroy anyone keeping the 7th day as a Sabbath
EliYah - Calling them Jewish heretics
Stewy - Ever heard of the inquisition?
Beverley - Adam the answer is yes
Berean - YHWH set the 7th day apart adam
Berean - we do not have that authority
adam - why hasn't Yahweh convicted so many Christians of this?
EliYah - If everyone kept a different Sabbath day..Yahweh's people Could never congregate..there would be confusion
Beverley - transgressing YHWH's law is sin
EliYah - Adam, He has
Ebed - +rev 12 9
Stewy - Rev 12:17
Beverley - one of His commandments is to keep the Sabbath --7th day
EliYah - Revelations 12:9 - So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
EliYah - Revelations 12:17 - And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of YAHWEH and have the testimony of Yahushua the Messiah.
Al - That is a good question adam
adam - yes, it is a good question...
Stewy - So isn't that the mark of the beast? Sunday keeping that is.
EliYah - He has convicted many...but how many are willing to go and do what is different?
adam - Am I to believe that those who have encouraged me to worship Jesus Christ above all other names...Jesus Christ being one with the Father...to be in the service of Satan to encourage me to worship in spirit and in truth on Sunday?
Ebed - +prov 14:12
EliYah - The way is narrow...not broad
Beverley - Sunday is not the 7th day. It is the first. It was not set apart bny YHWH
adam - yes, but how can God convict men of the sins of impurity, pride, deceit, and not of Saturday as the Sabbath?
Stewy - Jesus Christ is simply Greek for Yahshua/Messiah.
Al - we are in the midst of a bloody warfare, spiritual war that is
Amats-Yah - Shabbat shalom Chanak :)
EliYah - Because those things are taught as sin by almost everyone
adam - Again, thank you for talking...I don't mean to be divisive...I thank you all so much for letting me in here..
EliYah - But other things...typically any commandment having to do with worshiping Yahweh is ignored
adam - You have perhaps never lived life in my shoes...
EliYah - We appreciate your questions, adam
BrTom - {{{{{{{{{{{{adam}}}}}}}}}}}}
Beverley - You would be surprised how many here have lived in your shoes
adam - It is as foreign to me to think of Saturday as "church" day as it is for you to think of Sunday as "church"..."Sabbath" day...
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ adam }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Stewy - Adam, we are all sinners in need of repentance.
BrBob - (:Ï:) (:Ï:)(:Ï:) (:Ï:) Love Bug Hugs !!
Ezeki`El - :)
Muzz1 - and shoes that you have not lived in too Adam.... :)
Beverley - I was raised to think Sunday was the Sabbath also
adam - Yes, He has been so merciful to me!!!
BrTom - Been there, done that, sorry.
BrBob - l «*» l adam l «*» l
Stewy - As for the Pope, Daniel 7:25
EliYah - Adam can't see the colors on the website
adam - I want to know this...I want nothing to keep me from HIM...no, I can't see the colors and many messages come to me in computer language, not words...
Beverley - Adam, we each sin, but as we learn what those sins are we must repent
Stewy - Dan 7:25
EliYah - Adam, there is a narrower path than the mainstream...
adam - for instance, BrBob's last message...
Beverley - what about it
EliYah - The chat program on the web page doesn't see the colors
adam - oh, I can't read what Brbob said...
Al - I have seen the organization chart and splits of adventists(both Sunday and this seventh day) Cof God/YHWH
Ebed - http://www2.andrews.edu/~samuele/books/sabbath_to_sunday/ if you want to read the story of how the day got changed
Ezeki`El - Firing up the 'ol Web Browser
adam - God said to us that he was concerned about a circumcision of the heart...
Al - a bloody mess is my reaction
EliYah - Yes, our heart must be pure
EliYah - A pure heart will seek and love the truth..to worship the way the disciples did and taught
EliYah - To be like Yahshua who kept the Sabbath on the day Yahweh sanctified
adam - and in keeping the sabbath...in holding Sunday apart from the rest of my week, do I NOT worship HIM in heart? Is there enough solid evidence to firmly place the Sabbath on a particular day of the week?
Beverley - YHWH has always desired a circumcised heart
BrBob - Sorry y'all for the jibberish
Muzz1 - +John 14 23
EliYah - The question should always be..what did Yahshua do?
Stewy - Adam when do you work?
BrTom - Sat?
adam - monday thru friday..sometimes on Saturday..sometimes on Sunday...I am a doctor...
DelaYah - +exo 31 16
Amats-Yah - = isa 8 20
Stewy - Can't be covered on Saturday?
DelaYah - +gen 2 2 3
BrTom - Following Yahshua's example is vital.
BroJaan - I know a doctor who keeps the Sabbath
DelaYah - He said it
Ebed - +luk 6 9
EliYah - Are there any prayer requests?
DelaYah - It surprises people when you tell them you can't work on Saturday
adam - you guys continually refer to scripture which says the "seventh" day...but then you reference this day with something particular to the Jews...that Saturday is the seventh day...I am wondering if THAT arguement is God's argument or the Jew'
adam - Jew's argument...
DelaYah - they almost "never" such a thing
DelaYah - hear such a thing
adam - sorry, Berean...I couldn't hear your wv
Stewy - The Sabbath is the only day Yahweh actually named. All the others were numbered.
BrBob - What do the Jew's have to do with the Sabbath, other than they observe it too?
BrTom - One thing the Jews have done is counted to seven every week.
EliYah - Adam, although the calandars have been altered, the 7 day cycle hasn't changed since the days of the Messiah Yahshua
adam - he named it "saturday"?
Berean - if you have, or get an irc program, you can
Muzz1 - Luke the writer of the gospel of Luke and Acts was a doctor... in fact he was a physician... and he kept the sabbath
adam - exactly, EliYah...THAT is my question...if I keep the cycle, am I keeping the Sabbath?
Stewy - No. Gentiles in their pagan ignorance named it Saturday.
adam - thanks, Berean, I will look into it...
EliYah - If you are on HIS timing, yes
adam - what do you mean, Eliyah?
Al - the gates of hell may not prevail but they sure are a knock'n
EliYah - He is the one who started the cycle
Berean - i have found pIRCh to be quite user friendly
BrBob - Not as much as you think al.
BrBob - Al
adam - I hope I am not perceived to be the gates of Hell..sorry , if so...
EliYah - No adam..
adam - that looks neat, Brother bob...can't read it, however...
BrBob - have some fish
adam - oh, yes...now I S
adam - see!!
Stewy - Do the deceived know they're deceived?
BrBob - hehe
BrBob - Praise Yahweh!
adam - no, Stewy...they don't...
BrTom - No, adam, seems like you're on the road to righteousness.
BrBob - ><((((º>
adam - I definitely hunger and thirst after it!
EliYah - HalleluYah!!
Beverley - Praise YHWH
Stewy - Being raised a Baptist I was deceived for more than half my life! Actually, longer than that.
BrBob - ><((((º>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~%
EliYah - If we do what Yahshua did..we can't go wrong
Joel - had a little fun
adam - but will HE HIMSELF not convict me of sin?
BrBob - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Stewy }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
BrTom - Keeping Sabbath is a great blessing for us. For all mankind!
adam - and when HE blesses me...as I keep Sunday pure to HIM...am I being deceived by Satan?
Beverley - If you listen to waht He says in Scripture
Stewy - Adam - Why do you think you are here?
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom all
DelaYah - YHWH bless you
BrTom - Yep
Ebed - +1pet 2 21
adam - I am here because Eliyah invited me...
Ebed - +luke 4 16
Stewy - Yes Adam.
adam - I only wonder if Jesus Himself did not show a proper perspective for the Sabbath...a little different than you guys are expressing...
Muzz1 - +Exodus 31 13
Stewy - He kept it perfectly. As He did all the law. That's why He was blameless.
Beverley - But Adam it was your choice to come. You chose
EliYah - Adam, if the whole world kept the Sabbath on Saturday..would you observe it on Sunday?
adam - no, Eliyah...I wouldn't probably...never thought about it that way before...
EliYah - Traditions cloud the truths in scripture all too often
adam - didn't Christ do things on the Sabbath that got scorn from those who kept the letter of the law?
BrTom - No
adam - didn't He heal a man on the Sabbath?
Stewy - Exodus 31:13 - The Seal of God, as spoken in Revelation.
EliYah - That is not against Yahweh's Sabbath to heal
Ebed - that's not agaist the sabbath law
adam - and what is the conversation about pulling an ox out of a ditch on the Sabbath...
HezkiYahu - That is not a Torah prohibition.
BrTom - He got in trouble for crossing their traditions.
Stewy - Christ was also concerned with the spirit of the law.
EliYah - The pharisees/scribes added over 1000 laws to the Sabbath
adam - now that gets closer to the heart, Stewy...
EliYah - It is good to save a life on the Sabbath
EliYah - Always was
Beverley - BBing-o traditions
BrBob - wow
adam - so...if I were to suddenly begin to set Saturday aside, how would I convince those around me that I did so on a sound basis?
HezkiYahu - By the Torah.
Stewy - Read the Sermon on the Mount and bear in mind Yahshua's true interpretation of the law.
BrTom - Yahshua pointed out some common sense which is not foreign to Yahweh.
EliYah - Have you read the Sabbath study on the web site, adam?
HezkiYahu - By the Scripture.
adam - with a world obviously nearing terrible times, is the Sabbath a cornerstone issue?
adam - no, Eliyah...is it on your page?
EliYah - Yes,
Ebed - +matt 15 8 9
EliYah - http://eliyah.com/sabbath.htm
Ezeki`El - Firing up the 'ol Web Browser
Stewy - Romans 7:12
Muzz1 - why do you have to convince others? It is your own life... none of their business
HezkiYahu - +Rom 7 12
BrTom - I believe Sabbath is critical because it is called a sign between Yahweh and His people.
adam - yes, Muzzi...I agree...I also believe that I must have an answer to give to those who would ask me of the hope that is in me...
HezkiYahu - +Psa 119 50
adam - amen, Watchman...
BrTom - You're right adam
HezkiYahu - oops
HezkiYahu - +Psa 119 51
BrTom - Some of those love you, right?
Stewy - Yeah, the sign talked of in Revelation. And without the sign or seal of God, you will have the MARK OF THE BEAST!
HezkiYahu - +Psa 119 53
Muzz1 - fair enough... there are many scriptures that u can turn to to prove the sabbath
adam - yes, yes, BrTom...
BrTom - And you love them.
adam - yes, the concept of the Sabbath...but the Day is what I am quesitoning...
Muzz1 - but it is unlikely that they will want to know from these scriptures about the sabbath
BrTom - The Jews have kept count.
adam - we are to be a sanctified, "peculiar" people...but being peculiar just to be peculiar is human pride...
BrTom - Sat is the right day.
Muzz1 - most people reject the words of Yahweh these days... and we need to be discrete at times
Stewy - The Jews know they are Jews because they never lost sight of the Sabbath. The House of Israel lost sight of the Sabbath and became lost to history.
HezkiYahu - The melleniuum is the Shabbat. Six days was the world created. The seventh day He rested.
BrTom - peculiar = special
adam - peculiar...set apart...
Beverley - Adam you are right pride goth before a fall
Muzz1 - not creating more unnecessary trouble for ourselves
BrTom - yep
adam - I am on my face before God...I am as a beast before HIM...let God be true and everyman a liar...I only want the truth here...I will ask for HIS conviction on this matter...
Beverley - Praise YHWH
Ebed - http://www.gentle.org/jgsellers/feature%20articles/article33.htm
Ezeki`El - Firing up the 'ol Web Browser
EliYah - I trust that Yahweh will guide one in truth who has walked in the truth given
EliYah - Are there any prayer requests?
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