Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 08/27/99


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BrBob - I had some trouble getting on Superchat tonight......switched servers
DelaYah - HalleluYAH!
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom Father!
DelaYah - and Shabbat Shalom to everyone
DelaYah - Abba, this night we come before You and ask that You would help us to gain understanding in Your WORD
DelaYah - and that we could through Your help retain the understanding, and use the knowledge aright
DelaYah - give us ears that can hear Father?
DelaYah - Please bless the words of the speaker tonight Father
DelaYah - and cause him to boldly speak Your Words that he spare not..
DelaYah - make us to have circumsized hearts Abba
DelaYah - help the words to cut dee into us, that we can repent and walk in righteousness
DelaYah - we desire to do Your will
DelaYah - Help us be Overcomers Father
DelaYah - by Your Words that are spoken unto us,.... cleanse us
DelaYah - we ask You for this help in the Name of Your Son, Yahushua Ha'Mashiach
DelaYah - so let it be
DelaYah - HalleluYAH!

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

Tonite I would like to talk about the importance of "guarding our mouth"

It is written in the proverb:

Proverbs 13:3 - He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction.

Here are some scriptures to consider:

Ecclesiastes 5:3 - For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.

Proverbs 15:2 - The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.

Proverbs 15:4 - A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

Do you desire life?

Psalms 34:12 - What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good?

Psalms 34:13 - Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.

Psalms 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Guarding our mouth is nearly impossible apart from Yahweh:

James 3:1 - My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.

James 3:2 - For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.

James 3:3 - Indeed, we put bits in horses' mouths that they may obey us, and we turn their whole body.

James 3:4 - Look also at ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are turned by a very small rudder wherever the pilot desires.

James 3:5 - Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles!

James 3:6 - And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

"Even so, the tongue is so set that it defiles our whole body!"

Proverbs 16:27 - A worthless man diggeth up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire.

Continuing in James..

James 3:7 - For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

James 3:8 - But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

James 3:9 - With it we bless YAHWEH our Father and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of YAHWEH.

James 3:10 - Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.

James 3:11 - Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?

James 3:12 - Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.

James 3:13 - Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct [that] his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

So in context, there is a certain danger that exists for those who are teachers of Yahweh as well as all of Yahweh's servants

Let us heed Yahshua's warning:

Matthew 12:35 - A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Matthew 12:36 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Matthew 12:37 - For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Truly this is a powerful saying!

We need to always consider that every word we speak will be brought before the Judge.

Can we stand before the Son of Man?

If we can't bridle the tongue, who can?

Yahweh

Surely we must be humble and ask Yahweh to put a guard on our mouths...

Psalms 141:3 - Set a watch, O YAHWEH, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.

Psalms 141:4 - Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.

With Yahweh guarding our mouth, we can be preserved.

Proverbs 13:3 - He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction.

Our own mouth can be a snare!

Proverbs 12:13 - The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble.

When our lips are guarded, we preserve ourselves from potential troubles:

Proverbs 21:23 - Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.

David knew this wise saying:

Psalms 39:1 - I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.

Psalms 39:2 - I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred.

Psalms 39:3 - My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: then spake I with my tongue,

Psalms 39:4 - YAHWEH, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am.

Yahushua also knew this:

Isaiah 53:7 - He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

Luke 23:8 - And when Herod saw Yahushua, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him; and he hoped to have seen some miracle done by him.

Luke 23:9 - Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.

We need to ask Yahweh to help us be like Yahushua and hold back the tongue.

Proverbs 29:20 - Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Consider that!

Of all the times that the word "fool" occurs in the scriptures, 55% of them are in the book of Proverbs

where foolishness is condemned on no uncertain terms!

And yet there is more hope for a FOOL than for one who is hasty in his words!!!

Now let's look closely at another passage in James:

James 1:26 - If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one's religion [is] useless.

The greek lexicon reveals that in this passage, the first occurance of the word 'religious' means to 'fear Yahweh'.

and the second occurance (religion) means 'Worship'

Therefore, a possible translation would be:

"If any man among you seem to be Yahweh-fearing, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's worship is vain."

Wow brethren, this is SERIOUS! Consider Yahushua's words:

Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.

According to Yahshua, the words and teachings of the scribes and pharisees were not of Yahweh and their worship was vain!

Even so, James says that Anyone says they fear Yahweh but bridles not their tongue, then they deceive themselves and their "WORSHIP IS VAIN"

Proverbs 10:18 - He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.

Proverbs 10:19 - In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.

James 1:19 - So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;

Proverbs 10:20 - The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

Proverbs 10:21 - The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

Our words need to be like spiritual food

If we speak, to what should our speech be likened unto?

1Peter 4:11 - If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of YAHWEH. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which YAHWEH supplies, that in all things YAHWEH may be glorified through Yahushua the Messiah, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever.

So if and when we do choose to speak, it should be as the oracles of Yahweh!

Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart favor to the hearers.

Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech be alway with favor, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

Yahushua commented on the speech of one:

John 1:46 - And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.

John 1:47 - Yahushua saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

A huge compliment coming from our Master

Will He say this of us?

Ephesians 5:3 - But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;

Ephesians 5:4 - neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

Foolish talking and coarse jesting is a popular thing today.

Proverbs 26:18 - As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death,

Proverbs 26:19 - So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith, Am not I in sport?

Another translation has "Am not I in sport?" as "I was only joking!"

We need to pay particular attention to our words on Yahweh's Sabbath day:

Isaiah 58:13 - If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of YAHWEH, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

"nor speaking thine own words:"

Another translation says "Idle words"

but either fit

Our speech should be as the oracles of Yahweh!

Spiritual food!

Like choice silver..refined 7 times!

Psalms 12:6 - The words of YAHWEH are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Therefore..

Let us beware lest we fall into condemnation

Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For Elohim shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. .

So lets consider the ways in which we walk

Consider..

the words that we speak.

Are they acceptable unto Yahweh?

If not

We need to repent to Yahweh right now

I repent

Now this is my prayer:

Psalms 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O YAHWEH, my strength, and my redeemer.

May Yahweh bless you and may Yahweh help us all!

End


Jay_Emm - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah !!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
BrTom - HalleluYAH
Jozef_Lyd - Words of Wisdom, Praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/,....Words of LIFE, eternal LIFE.. I repent O Yahweh
DelaYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/
ylisha - ¯`'·.¸( ¯`'·.¸ \0/\0/\0/\0/ HalleluYah! Thank you for that wonderful message EliYah \0/\0/\0/\0/ ¸. ·'´¯) ¸. ·'´¯)
Trimm - A timely message indeed.
chaqar - HalleluYah!!!
Miles - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
BrTom - Yes. A message that always seems timely. :)
EliYah - Are there any questions or added comments?
Trimm - As long as men talk :-)
BrTom - Y
Nance - Thank you, this was an amazing message
ylisha - do we know what idle talk means?
Nance - I was about to ask that question re: idle talk
Miles - yes.
Trimm - lashon hara, the evil tounge
Jozef_Lyd - Yes a Question, what about "clean" jokes?
Jozef_Lyd - or witt.?
BuzzYah - I love how you say Yahweh is your redeemer
Jozef_Lyd - wittiness
BrTom - I believe jokes are OK within reason.
EliYah - I think that any word we aren't sure is within the will of Yahweh could be considered 'idle'
Trimm - Humor is not evil, the scriptures often spek well of laughter. Humor is a spiritual thing
Miles - Or the difference between Comedy and Humor....?
Jozef_Lyd - HalleluYah,...
dee - what about when you are in a place only thing they say is foul language
dee - and you r
EliYah - Personally, I avoid telling jokes
BuzzYah - Our words should be edifying, uplifting
BrTom - 'lashon hora' refers especially to speaking ill of another person.
EliYah - It's hard for me to imagine Yahshua doing that
DelaYah - dee... I would leave that kind of place...
dee - aears only reafr those words and you ended like that
EliYah - dee: I would find a way to leave if possible. If not possible, it would require much prayer for protection
dee - am trying need betterr paying job
Trimm - yes lashon hara involves giving out private information to harm another
BrTom - Sometimes it is necessary and good to speak ill of someone.
Trimm - with lashon hara the statement is always truth . The person who commits lashon hara excuses his actions because his statement was tru
BrTom - When it prevents them from harming an innocent person.
Yahanan - Are we still being logged?
EliYah - Proverbs 17:9 - He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth very friends.
dee - could you keep me in prayerts for a better job an dprotection until then
EliYah - yes, Yahanan
Jay_Emm - It's not what goes in the ears that makes one unclean, but what comes out of the mouth, Dee.
BrTom - Yes dee
EliYah - Sure, dee
ylisha - yes dee
dee - I know
Nance - I will pray for you too, Dee
dee - I find my self slipping now and then
BuzzYah - Right Dee
EliYah - What is sown in our minds often wars against His Spirit in us
Jozef_Lyd - Is Joyfulness, and clean humor not linked?
BrBill_Angel - !rs
dee - the mouth good be friend or enemy so true
Jozef_Lyd - Maybe I see things to serious and therefore escape with a witty remark.
ylisha - yes it is easy to fall, but if you stay in the word it won't be as easy, stay in the right company and fellowship when things are good and bad
Trimm - the person who commits lashon hara harms 3 people. the person they speak of, the person they speak to and themselves
Jozef_Lyd - It makes me feel a little better, to break the seriousness of situations.
DelaYah - would it not be a very clean thing for us to speak Scriptures to one another?
dee - I thank Yahweh met 2 believers close by now
DelaYah - and talk of His Word
ylisha - HalleluYah dee !! Praise Yahweh!
EliYah - The words we speak should be as the oracles of Yahweh
Jay_Emm - DelaYah, speaking to one another in Psalms and in hymns.
Trimm - but yes sometimes it is required of us to speak ill of someone... for example it would have been right to speak out against Hitler
DelaYah - yes Jay_m
DelaYah - or nebuchadnezzar
Jozef_Lyd - James trimm, if you would have lived in Nazi Germany, it would also have costed your life.
BrBill_Angel - EliYah, do you know who Cortiz is?
Nance - How does YHWH require us to deal with someone who speaks ill of us? How should we respond?
DelaYah - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ LoveYah }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Jozef_Lyd - So what to do in such situations?
dee - I hate when ba dthings go at work so much strife , I tried to turn other cheek it didnt work
Trimm - If I had lived in Nazi Germany I would have been in trouble anyway ... I am Jewish :-)
BrTom - Usually it is best to ignore it and forgive the person.
DelaYah - Nance... we should not revile back
Nance - me too dee...l became bitter and angry....and now must deal with this
DelaYah - or speak bad about them
DelaYah - but instead turn the other cheec
DelaYah - and remain silent
DelaYah - this is what Yahushua did
Trimm - In some cases but if we ignore anti-semitism we might as well hop in the box cars right now
Nance - I become physically ill when I turn the other cheek
dee - that does not work in my job, only thing rthis person know how to do is degrade peopl
BuzzYah - Don't hate the man, but hate the sin
Jozef_lyd - daar gaat Ie dan weer, voor de zoveelste keer.
DelaYah - Welcome back Jozef_lyd
Nance - I know YHWH says to love the man but hate the sin....however, I resent the person and hate the sin...I am trying to give it over to YHWH
BrBill_Angel - Beware brethren the devil is amongst us at this time.
Jozef_lyd - Thank you DelaYah :)
Nance - he is?
Trimm - He always is... this earth is his pad :-)
dee - I hate his ways yes, but his ways nmake shim very ugly to me. I ve prayed for help
DelaYah - J.T. .... that is the truth
BuzzYah - I always remember that when people are mean or still from me, that they are the trial that Yahweh as let be before me
dee - I am praying that Yhwh will open up door for a better job
Nance - I will pray for you too, dee
Nance - Yhwh answers prayer
Miles - May YHWH Bless you and keep you
Jozef_lyd - I agree with yoiu in that prayer dee.
ylisha - good night all and jozef and lyd good day. happy sabbath all and i will see you another time
BuzzYah - Look for His will, Dee
Miles - ...L.....i.....e.....la... Yahweh bless you ylisha ...T.....o.....v.....!...
BrTom - Good Sabbath ylisha
DelaYah - Psa 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.
Jozef_lyd - lyla tov elisha

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