Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 08/25/00


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Berean - Our Father, AllMighty Yahweh.
Berean - ThankYou for this day, this day of rest that You in your wisdom have set apart and given to us for our benefit
Berean - ThankYou for the blessings you have given us throughout the week, and we ask Father, that you open our eyes, that we take none of them for granted.
Berean - Father, we ask You for teaching, cleansing, and guidance, that we may walk pleasing in your site.
Berean - We ask Father, that you bless this gathering, and all those who set apart this day, that You help us to walk properly, in accordance to Your word.
Berean - Father, we ask that you bring us all closer to you, and closer together. We ask that You give strength and shalom to those of Yours who seek You.
Berean - We ask and pray Father, that in ALL things in our lives, Your will be done, above all else.
Berean - We ask everything in Your Son's name, Yahshua
Berean - Ahmein, HalleluYah!

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

Tonight I would like to talk about the subject of prayer

This study was originally done out of a desire to have more prayer and more pleasing prayer to Yahweh in my own life.

So it is my hope that the scriptures which continue to convict my heart will also convict others.

When studying this subject of prayer, I was very shocked first of all to find that there is no specific command to pray in the first five books of the scriptures (commonly called the Torah).

However, there are a large number of examples of prayer in the scriptures..especially in the book of Psalms.

To begin with, we will examine Yahushua's example for us.

Matthew 6:9 - After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Matthew 6:10 - Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Matthew 6:11 - Give us this day our daily bread.

Matthew 6:12 - And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Matthew 6:13 - And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Unlike the monotone repitions as some do of this prayer, I believe that Yahushua was sharing with us what things we should at LEAST pray for on a daily basis.

Surely at least once a day for He said "Give us this day our daily bread". (Note: This not only means not only the physical, but also the spiritual food we need)

Prayer is very powerful:

James 5:16 - Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Examples of things that we can pray for are endless. But the following are some scriptural guidelines of how, when and where prayer can/should take place.

How do we pray?

Perhaps the number one thing Yahweh expects when we pray is humility. How can Yahweh hear the prayer of a proud man?

Job 35:12 - There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men.

Job 35:13 - Surely El will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.

What other things can hinder our prayers?

Doubt can hinder our prayers:

James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of YAHWEH, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.

James 1:6 - But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.

James 1:7 - For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from YAHWEH;

James 1:8 - he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

Hebrews 11:6 - But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to YAHWEH must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Turning away an ear from Yahweh's word will hinder our prayers:

Proverbs 28:9 - He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Now those are pretty strong words!

Zechariah 7:12 - Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which YAHWEH of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from YAHWEH of hosts.

Zechariah 7:13 - Therefore it is come to pass, that as he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not hear, saith YAHWEH of hosts:

Wrong attitude and intentions will hinder prayer:

James 4:2 - You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask.

James 4:3 - You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend [it] on your pleasures.

Improper husband-wife relationships will hinder prayer:

1Peter 3:7 - Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the favor of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.

Praying out of Yahweh's will hinders prayer:

1John 5:14 - Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.

Pretentiousness and Hypocrisy hinders prayer:

Matthew 6:5 - And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Sleepiness hinders prayer:

Matthew 26:40 - And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Kepha, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

Matthew 26:41 - Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Or perhaps laziness

To regard sin hinders prayer:

Psalms 66:18 - If I regard iniquity in my heart, YAHWEH will not hear me:

Unforgiveness hinders prayer:

Mark 11:25 - And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

Our prayers are likened unto an incense offering to Yahweh:

Revelation 5:8 - Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

Psalms 141:2 - Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.

Therefore our offering must be humble, sweet, pure and right.

Without blemish or foolish choice of words.

Ecclesiastes 5:1 - Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of Elohim, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.

Ecclesiastes 5:2 - Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before Elohim: for Elohim is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.

As Yahushua said:

Matthew 6:7 - But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Matthew 6:8 - Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

This can be seen in some pentecostal arenas where they repeat a certain phrase over and over again until they are worked into an altered state of consciousness and then open themselves up to all kinds of demonic activity.

But does this mean then that every prayer is to be a short 20 second prayer?

I think not. Yahushua at times spent the entire night in prayer

Perhaps the difference here is public prayer verses private

How many of us have followed this example?

Luke 6:12 - And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to YAHWEH.

There are certainly times in our lives that we have more to pray for.

There are brothers and sisters among us who all need prayer

It is certain that we should be careful about what we do speak to Yahweh and that our prayer is not simply repeating over and over the same words for the purpose of making it long.

To keep things in perspective, I think it is good that we always remember that in our prayers we are actually asking Yahweh to obey us!

But as we grow in Him, we will find that our will is increasingly more..HIS WILL. HalleluYah!

What should be the position of our body when we pray? There really is no commandment on this that I'm aware of but there are many examples.

Yahushua lifted His eyes to heaven:

John 17:1 - These words spake Yahushua, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

He knelt down:

Luke 22:41 - And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,

In a stressful time, He also fell on His face..

Matthew 26:39 - And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

As did Moshe for forty days and nights:

Deuteronomy 9:25 - Thus I fell down before YAHWEH forty days and forty nights, as I fell down at the first; because YAHWEH had said he would destroy you.

Also David:

1Chronicles 21:16 - And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of YAHWEH stand between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces.

You will notice that most of these were in most perilous and sincere times.

When asking for forgiveness, the humble man whose prayer was answered was standing in prayer...but wouldn't even look up

Luke 18:13 - And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, Elohim be merciful to me a sinner.

Also we can lift our hands:

1Timothy 2:8 - I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

2Chronicles 6:13 - For Solomon had made a brasen scaffold, of five cubits long, and five cubits broad, and three cubits high, and had set it in the midst of the court: and upon it he stood, and kneeled down upon his knees before all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven,

And as we spoke of earlier:

Psalms 141:2 - Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.

This brings us to another area of interest. The time of prayer.

It is written that we should...

1Thessalonians 5:17 - Pray without ceasing.

We should always be mindful of prayer anytime, anywhere...keeping the lines of communication open between us and our Father.

Continuing in the Spirit..making short prayers and thanksgivings to Him throughout each day

Some time ago, I came to the conviction that we should offer prayer at the time of the evening sacrifice.

It is true that our prayers are likened unto offerings.

Psalms 119:108 - Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O YAHWEH, and teach me thy judgments.

Hebrews 13:15 - Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to YAHWEH, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name.

Proverbs 15:8 - The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to YAHWEH: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

It is also interesting that the time of the evening sacrifice, known as the ninth hour of daylight, was a time of prayer.

Consider the example of Kepha and Yahuchanan (Peter and John)

Acts 3:1 - Now Kepha and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.

Now we know that there is no literal temple today.

But there wasn't in the days of Daniel the prophet..and consider his example:

But there wasn't in the days of Daniel the prophet..and consider his example:

Daniel 9:21 - Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.

It was Daniel's custom to pray 3 times a day:

Daniel 6:10 - Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his Elohim, as he did aforetime.

David's also:

Psalms 55:17 - Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.

Here is Ezra's example:

Ezra 9:4 - Then were assembled unto me every one that trembled at the words of the Elohim of Israel, because of the transgression of those that had been carried away; and I sat astonied until the evening sacrifice.

Ezra 9:5 - And at the evening sacrifice I arose up from my heaviness; and having rent my garment and my mantle, I fell upon my knees, and spread out my hands unto YAHWEH my Elohim.

Notice again..the hour of prayer, the evening offering

Also EliYah's (Elijah's) example:

1Kings 18:36 - And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that EliYah the prophet came near, and said, YAHWEH Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art Elohim in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word.

In this next scripture, all the people were praying at the time of incense:

Luke 1:10 - And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.

Luke 1:11 - And there appeared unto him an angel of YAHWEH standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

Perhaps more than any time of day, Yahweh did mighty works at this hour

It was at the ninth hour that Yahushua spoke His final words to Father Yahweh:

Luke 23:44 - And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

Luke 23:45 - And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

Luke 23:46 - And when Yahushua had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the Spirit.

In His offering of prayer..He was an offering for us.

Consider also the example of Cornelius:

Acts 10:1 - There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

Acts 10:2 - A devout man, and one that feared Elohim with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to Elohim alway.

Acts 10:3 - He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of YAHWEH coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.

What was Cornelius doing at the ninth hour?

Praying

Later, when retelling the story..

Acts 10:30 - And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,

I will stop short of saying that it is a commandment that we should pray at the ninth hour...because I can't prove it

But the scriptures certainly indicate there are many examples of righteous men doing so.

Again, I will mention that there is no inappropriate time to pray.

Psalms 86:3 - Be merciful unto me, O YAHWEH: for I cry unto thee daily.

We should bless and give thanks to Yahweh for our food before we eat:

John 6:11 - And Yahushua took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.

And bless Yahweh after we are filled:

Deuteronomy 8:10 - When thou hast eaten and art full, then thou shalt bless YAHWEH thy Elohim for the good land which he hath given thee.

We can pray though..at any time.

Psalms 119:147 - I prevented the dawning of the morning, and cried: I hoped in thy word.

Acts 16:25 - And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto YAHWEH: and the prisoners heard them.

Psalms 88:13 - But unto thee have I cried, O YAHWEH; and in the morning shall my prayer prevent thee.

Incidentally, rising before dawn is something that Yahushua did

Mark 1:35 - And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.

Praying in a solitary place was something that Yahushua suggested and practiced:

Luke 5:16 - And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed.

Matthew 6:6 - But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Of course this does not mean that people cannot pray together. The apostles after being threatened by the Sanhedrin prayed together for boldness:

Acts 4:23 - And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them.

Acts 4:24 - And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to YAHWEH with one accord, and said, YAHWEH, thou art Elohim, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:

Acts 4:25 - Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?

Acts 4:26 - The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against YAHWEH, and against his Messiah.

Acts 4:27 - For of a truth against thy holy child Yahushua, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

Acts 4:28 - For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Acts 4:29 - And now, YAHWEH, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

Acts 4:30 - By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Yahushua.

Acts 4:31 - And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spake the word of YAHWEH with boldness.

Yahushua said:

Matthew 18:20 - For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

There is seemingly no end in sight on this subject but I hope that this has encouraged many to be more of a man or woman of prayer.

In our relationship with Yahweh, I believe that prayer is as important as reading His word.

Oftentimes we can have a point in our life where we are praying often but neglecting the reading of His word.

Other times it might be the other way around.

Perhaps it is a delicate balance that we must maintain depending upon our circumstances

One thing is certain, we cannot expect to have the relationship with Yahweh that we need to have apart from these two things.

Our prayers should be out of natural love and desire to speak with Him

For prayer is our communication to Him and His word is His communication to us.

We must stay in touch with Yahweh at all times

The closer we walk with Him..

The more we are like our Master Yahushua

And that, I hope is our ultimate desire

To love Yahweh with all our heart

May Yahweh bless you all as we conclude with these final scriptures:

Psalms 34:1 - I will bless YAHWEH at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth.

Psalms 34:2 - My soul shall make her boast in YAHWEH: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.

Psalms 34:3 - O magnify YAHWEH with me, and let us exalt his name together.

Psalms 34:4 - I sought YAHWEH, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears.

Psalms 34:5 - They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed.

Psalms 34:6 - This poor man cried, and YAHWEH heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.

Psalms 34:7 - The angel of YAHWEH encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.

Psalms 34:8 - O taste and see that YAHWEH is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Yahweh is good and trustworthy. May Yahweh bless you all!

End


Jay_Emm - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah !!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
wrblest - HalleluYah \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
downlo - HalleluYAH!! Praise Yahweh for this Sabbath message!!
BrTom_Arthur - HalleluYAH
david - HalleluYah!!!!!!!!
BrBill - \0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/.....I will lift up my hands unto His name. In praise, in worship, and in Prayer.
Br_jason - \o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah \o/\o/\o/
BroM - HalleluYah! Praise Almighty Yahweh!
Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YAHWEH!!
DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!!
Angel - HalleluYahweh, Yahshua is King!
MilesnDina - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
chaqar - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YAHWEH!!
BrBill - +psalm 28 2
david - I was just talking about prayer yesterday
BrPoet - HalleluYAH
DovSucar - halleluyah
COL - Praise YHVH...for His Mercy endures forever. HalleluYAH!
Lydia_Jozef - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise HIM who's mercies endure forever H A L L E L U Y A H
pilgram - HALLELUYAH !!!
halel - praise His holy name!
david - I must go, but first I would like to ask all to pray for someone who has an interest in learning Truth!
downlo - +psalms 89:6
wrblest - It makes sence to set a certain time aside to talk to Him. I do that with my husband, Yahweh should have the same consideration
david - That I talked to at work today
Sue - I do want to stay close to Yahweh, but I have suffered a very serious blow in losing my husband. It seems as though the closer I try to walk closer to Him, the harder the trial, tribualtions and tests come.
Berean - Favor and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of YAHWEH and of Yahshua our Master , Sue
downlo - He will see you through Sue
Sue - My husband and I just came to the understanding of His Holy name when Ron was killed. WHY oh why did Ron need to leave now!
BroM - Sue, remember that Yahweh will never leave you or forsake you!
BrPoet - Shabat Shalom All
COL - yes Sue....for we are in the world but not of the world...."in this world you will have tribulations, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world" says YHVH. Hang in there Sue.
Sue - But I do feel forsaken. I have 5 children to raise.
DovSucar - Need prayers for my brother in law, Jeremy. His company filed Bankruptcy and let him go Monday.
DovSucar - He has a wife to support and two small children
david - Shalom to all, enjoy Sabbath, May YaHWeH bless all!
COL - *lifts Sue up in prayer*
BroM - Shabbat Shalom david
BrTom_Arthur - Sue, do you have support nearby?
downlo - Please pray for Sue
david - will pray for all!
david - Shalom
docboy - Sue....our prayers and thoughts are with you at this time of stress
Sue - Yes and no. A wonderful family with small children lives about an hour north.
BroM - Where are you, Sue?
BrTom_Arthur - Where are you?
Sue - They are a wonderful Sacred name Sabbath keeping family, but they are very busy with their own lives.
Sue - I live in Illinios.
believer - doesnt scripture say YHWH will be a husband to the widow and father to the fatherless ?
COL - yes believer!!
BrTom_Arthur - Where in Illinois?
Sue - North Cenral in Tiskilwa.
BrTom_Arthur - Near Peoria?
Sue - An hour north of Peoria.
onebc - sue my sister ,we have terrible things happen to us in this world,that is when we need to lean on His promises to help and care for us .
COL - when my father died many years ago my mother suddenly had to deal with the loss of dad and she too had to deal with the raising of their 4 children.
Keith - what happened to Scott?
Sue - The hard thing is that I am finding myself wanting to be angry.
BrTom_Arthur - I can understand that, sue
onebc - when things are the worst looking He is the one that will make your life stay together.
Sue - But when I start to become angry, I am ashamed.
COL - Sue it's ok to be angry...let it out. YHVH understands!
believer - we will pray for you SUE and your children
BrTom_Arthur - How old are the kids?
Sue - A son 15, son 13, son 10, a daughter 8 and a son 1 year.
Sue - Our baby was only 3 months old when he was killed.
Sue - A tractor flipped ontop of him.
COL - oh my
Sue - Ron even had a reversal for us to have our baby.
docboy - [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[group hug for Sue]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
Sue - It is so hard to understand the how's and why's of life.
onebc - i am from farming areas and that happened to a freind of mine when i was a boy.
COL - yes Sue it is.
DovSucar - Sue, I'm so sorry to hear about your baby
onebc - it is a terrible accident
Sue - We really believed that we were following Yahweh's perfect will for our familiy's life.
BrTom_Arthur - Dear Sue! We will pray for you and your children.
Sue - Thank you to all of you for letting me blubber.
bear - sue, anger is a normal part of the greiving process and is nothing to be ashamed of. let it out and keep praying. we will keep you in our prayers.
Sue - I really needed to get it off of my chest with those that are like minded.
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DovSucar - sue, bear is right.
DelaYah - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Sue }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Sue - And do you realize how limited my prospects for marriage are! LOL!
Jay_Emm - + James 1 27
claudia - Hello everyone...good sabbath to you
Ysrlsue - hi, Claudia
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom claudia :)
COL - Sue.....Apostle Paul said it is better to stay as he is. [which was single]. lol
bear - nothing is impossible with Yahweh.

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