08/20/2004 Sabbath Meeting Transcript


"Strife"


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barrykind_Melisa - We are going to be moving (Yah Wills) fairly soon..no fellowship here.:)
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barrykind_Melisa - Thankyou Achi EliYah; Father we come to you tonight with joy in our hearts for the precious price that was paid for us.
barrykind_Melisa - The atoning sacrifice that was made on our behalf.
barrykind_Melisa - We come with thanksgiving, for the peace that passes all understanding, with the love shed abroad in our hearts that you gave to us.
barrykind_Melisa - Father thankyou for your mercy and your grace, and for the brothren and our love one for another.
barrykind_Melisa - Father we gather this Shabbat Day to Rest, and to seek your will, your words, and to hear from your throne.
barrykind_Melisa - Abba Father bring forth the message that burns to be delivered in the heart of you servant, the manna from heaven to bless our souls.
barrykind_Melisa - Father that your servant would be blessed to share with us the message as he heard it from you Abba Father.
barrykind_Melisa - Father give us that desire, and that love to take what we eat here tonight and make disciples of all nations, and bring forth the gospel, the good news that you have shared with us.
barrykind_Melisa - Father that each one here tonight would be blessed and would be used according to the gift that you have given us, and that we would not only make disciples of all nations but also to bless the brothren and encourage,
barrykind_Melisa - and strengthen each one here that they leave not here like they came, but that our hearts would be stirred in a greater way than when we came, and that
barrykind_Melisa - we would not bury our talent but use that talent to gain some 30, 60, 100 fold return.
barrykind_Melisa - We ask this Abba in the Name of Yahshua HaMashiach our beloved....
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EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

In recent years there seems to be more and more talk of war. War on this and war on that

While the world battles with one another in its search for peace and unity I would like to draw our attention to the true battle that believers in Yahweh will face daily

Ephesians 6:12 - For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Ephesians 6:13 - Therefore take up the whole armor of Elohim, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

The true war is spiritual

We need to be sure that we are on Yahweh's sied

side

Yet we see sometimes that another war is in our midst!

Warring between believers

Warring and strife between mother and father

Between child and child

And somtimes even between parents and children

These things ought not be

The following study is to examine what strife is, the causes of it and how to avoid it.

Whenever strife is present, rebellion and/or selfishness and/or pride are usually there

Proverbs 16:32 - He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

It is not easy to rule our spirit. Self control is at the heart of overcoming sin. But one who does rule his spirit is better and greater in strength than one who takes a city!

First of all, let's take a look at what 'strife' is. According to Webster's Dictionary, Strife means "1. Exertion or contention with another; competition. 2. Contest; struggle; quarrel"

These definitions fit well with the Hebrew meanings of the word. But what does scripture say that strife is? Where can we find examples of strife in the scriptures?

We see one example of strife as far back as Abraham's day.

Genesis 13:6 - And the land was not able to bear them, that they might dwell together: for their substance was great, so that they could not dwell together.

Genesis 13:7 - And there was a strife between the herdmen of Abram's cattle and the herdmen of Lot's cattle: and the Canaanite and the Perizzite dwelled then in the land.

In the above example, we see that there were 2 spiritual brothers, Abram and Lot dwelling together in a land that could not support them. The herdsmen were apparently striving over who could get the better land for the livestock.

The strife arose because everyone was seeking their own best interest rather than the interest of others

what is great about this record is what Abraham did to resolve it:

Genesis 13:8 - And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren.

I love Abraham's reasoning here "For we be brethren".

Abraham took the initiative here. And desired above all things that there would be no strife among brethren, nor even among their herdsmen..even if it meant him taking the lesser part. Abraham put an end to the strife by allowing Lot to choose the land he wanted

He set aside his own self interest with his proposal:

Genesis 13:9 - Is not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me: if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left.

Genesis 13:10 - And Lot lifted up his eyes, and beheld all the plain of Jordan, that it was well watered every where, before YAHWEH destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, even as the garden of YAHWEH, like the land of Egypt, as thou comest unto Zoar.

Genesis 13:11 - Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other.

So Abraham, in his righteousness allowed Lot to take the greater part and him the lesser.

In this, I believe that Abraham was blessed. Yahshua said:

Matthew 5:9 - Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of YAHWEH.

I believe that it is important that we always try to make peace among our brothers and that we will be blessed for doing so

We should realize though, that with some men this is not possible. Let's examine the type of people that stir up strife:

Proverbs 15:18 - A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

Proverbs 29:22 - An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.

Proverbs 30:33 - Surely the churning of milk bringeth forth butter, and the wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood: so the forcing of wrath bringeth forth strife.

For a person who is angry a lot, he is likely to have strife in his home and among the brothers he is in contact with.

Often times, they might feel justified their anger by calling it "righteous anger" such as when Yahushua overturned the tables of the moneychangers.

But I think that righteous anger is indeed a rare thing and it is often used as an excuse to be angry.

The real heart of it is self interest/selfishness rather than righteous indignation

Proverbs 16:28 - A froward man soweth strife: and a whisperer separateth chief friends.

Froward means 'perverse'. Some go around and sow strife wherever they go. Wherever they are, strife is soon to follow. Scripture calls them 'perverse'.

Yes, some just love to strive. They like the competition, the fire, the ability to make another look bad.

And thus make themselves look good

Proverbs 26:21 - As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

Proverbs 28:25 - He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in YAHWEH shall be made fat.

I believe this (Pride) is usually the cause of strife. With it often comes the desire to contend and put another down to make themselves look more righteous.

But in Yahweh's eyes, they are evil

Consider what it is like to live with strife:

Proverbs 17:1 - Better is a dry morsel, and quietness therewith, than an house full of sacrifices with strife.

I have witnessed the truth of this scripture

I have seen houses of peace, shalom and love.. yet they were very poor in worldly possessions

And I have seen houses of misery and strife where there was plenty of money

What can we do to avoid strife?

Proverbs 17:14 - The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.

Ever tried to stop an inrush of water?

It is very very difficult to stop it once it starts.

Men have built dams hundreds of feet high to stop it

What can be done to stop strife?

The Hebrew word for "Leave off" in the above verse has to do with "forsaking"

Cease from speaking, perhaps walk away.. run if need be.

Also, when 2 persons are yelling at each other it is usually a sign that both think the other is not listening to them

A listening ear will help

Proverbs 20:3 - It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

So it is more honorable to cease from striving than to continue

Any fool can strive

but a wise man with strong character will cease

Proverbs 16:32 - He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

Proverbs 25:28 - He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

Are we as one who takes a city, or one like a city without walls?

Does the enemy come directly into the city without walls and destroy anything he sees?

Or are the walls built with the spiritual armor, that no enemy may penetrate?

Self control / Temperance is a fruit of the Spirit

When we lack it, the enemy can come in and wreak destruction

Proverbs 11:12 - He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour: but a man of understanding holdeth his peace.

Sometimes just being able to have understanding helps us to hold our peace and not despise another.

If there is someone that we are despising for one reason or another.. .think about what kind of mercy we will be needing from Father Yahweh on the day of judgment, and it becomes easier to have mercy and longsuffering with others

Matthew 5:7 - Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

What if we are witnessing strife between others?

Matthew 5:9 - Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of YAHWEH.

If there is strife among others, I think it not wise to join in unless you know that you can bring peace to them.

Proverbs 26:17 - He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.

It is wise to be careful who we are reproving

Or we may find ourselves on the receiving end of a blemish as well

Proverbs 9:7 - He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.

What about in our own homes? Why is there so much strife today?

In the home, I believe a major cause of strife is lack of respect for Yahweh's authority:

1Peter 3:1 - Wives, likewise, [be] submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives,

1Peter 3:2 - when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear.

1Peter 3:3 - Do not let your adornment be merely outward--arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel--

1Peter 3:4 - rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of YAHWEH.

A woman with a gentle and quiet spirit is not likely to get into a fight with the one Yahweh has placed in authority over her

How many would win a fight with their boss at work?

Who can strive with Yahweh and overcome Him?

Perhaps some suppose that it is acceptable if the husband is not being obedient to the word

But we just read in 1Pet 3:1 that the husband is more likely to be one by righteous conduct than by his wife striving with him

one = won

Two wrongs do not make a right, and if she is to have the moral authority to correct him.. then she must be obedient to Yahweh herself

If a bad situation appears on the horizon as a result of a perceived bad decision by the husband, the wives can trust in Yahweh

1Peter 3:5 - For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in YAHWEH also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands,

1Peter 3:6 - as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him master, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror.

When Abraham told Sarah to tell everyone she was his sister, we find no record of her fighting, complaining or wearing down Abraham

One might even believe she had good reason to question it. Wouldn't it be degrading for a man to tell his wife to say "I'm his sister?"

But as Peter/Kepha said, Sarah is a good example

Do not fear the consequences..trust in Yahweh

And we see that Yahweh delivered her

And their household was greatly blessed

Yahushua knows what it is like to obey when obedience may cause suffering

Hebrews 5:8 - though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.

Perhaps it is not until we suffer for obedience that we really know what obedience is

There was no strife between Yahweh and Messiah

In a home where the wife is humble & submissive, there is no strife

However, the husband has a responsibility to create the best environment for that to happen

The husband is responsible to Yahweh for loving his wife as Yahushua loves the assembly

Ephesians 5:25 - Husbands, love your wives, just as the Messiah also loved the assemblyand gave Himself for her,

Ephesians 5:26 - that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,

Ephesians 5:27 - that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.

The challenge to walk in the Messiah's steps is before us men

We cannot use our wives' behavior to excuse away the need to love them in this way. Yahushua loved us while we were yet sinners, did He not?

And not only did He love us, He loved us to the point of being tortured and giving His life for us

Yahweh help us

The men bear great responsibility.. and we should solemnly consider the words here

Seek Yahweh and His protection, for Yahweh promises to keep us from strife:

Psalms 31:20 - Thou shalt hide them in the secret of thy presence from the pride of man: thou shalt keep them secretly in a pavilion from the strife of tongues.

Even in the midst of strife, we can hide in the pavilion of Yahweh.. knowing that He knows and He sees all things

Interestingly, this word translated "pavilion" is "Sukkah" from which we get "Tabernacle"

Concerning the brethren, there are some who preach the truth just so that they can always win an argument or lift themselves up.

Paul noted these types of men in his day:

Philippians 1:15 - Some indeed preach the Messiah even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

Philippians 1:16 - The one preach the Messiah of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:

Philippians 1:17 - But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the glad tidings.

Philippians 1:18 - What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, the Messiah is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Some preach the truth, only so that they may contend or win an argument.

It ought not be so among us

But at least it is preached, regardless of the motivation. Yahushua warned of tares among the wheat.

Be not discouraged when we see the divisions. The divisions were there in Paul's day also:

1Corinthians 11:18 - For first of all, when ye come together in the assembly, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

1Corinthians 11:19 - For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

However, it is written for us:

Philippians 2:3 - Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Oh that all would only heed this scripture!

Perhaps there would be no strife at all among brethren!!

When Yahushua comes it will all end

The best that we can do is not participate in another's quest for an argument, but to humble ourselves and walk away or at least say "Let us not strive, for we are brethren!!"

Romans 13:13 - Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

Romans 13:14 - But put ye on Yahushua the Messiah, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

If we as people of Yahweh desire the meat of the word, we may never get it unless we put away strife!

1Corinthians 3:2 - I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

1Corinthians 3:3 - For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

If one desires to strive at every turn and hurl insults, then how can they be a true teacher of the word from Yahweh?

Those among us who bear His name or are wanting to bear His name must be very careful what choose to say to others.

All the world watches (and Yahweh too) to see the love for one another that Yahushuaa said would be evident among His disciples.

John 13:35 - By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

We must always remember that all that we write and say is written down for judgment!

Matthew 12:36 - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Do we realize the importance of those words spoken by Yahushua?

Now when others see us in sin and strife, it is how they view Yahweh and His people.

Those who bear and proclaim His name must walk in righteousness!!

When we do not.. people will say "This is the people of Yahweh" and will associate His wonderful name with unrighteousness.

It ought not be so!!

We are talking about the Name of the most powerful being in the Universe!

We are in a time of searching, my brethren

It isn't quite like it was in the days of the apostles

They had the truth, and were trying to protect it

We lack the truth, and are desperately seeking to attain it

We can kill each other with our words in the process.. or we can bear with one another in love, considering one another better than ourselves, praying for one another, bearing one another's burdens

I pray that our searching for the truth can be without vain strife and animosity toward one another. Who owns all the truth?

Certainly not I.

Who has had all their sin revealed to them?

We are all growing. We must be longsuffering with one another

Matthew 7:1 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Matthew 7:2 - For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Matthew 7:3 - And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:4 - Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:5 - Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Too often, strife is nothing more than brethren hitting each other with the 2 X 4's in their eyes

The one we serve will lead us into all truth IF we are humble and depart from carnal strife!

But if we personally berate another for his lack of understanding in our own eyes then surely we are acting as if WE are the wise ones and the OTHER is the fool.

Is this humility?

When Yahushua spoke to certain disciple, he said:

John 21:15 - So when they had dined, Yahushua saith to Simon Kepha, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Rabbi; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

John 21:16 - He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Rabbi; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

John 21:17 - He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Kepha was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Rabbi, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Yahushua saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

What did Yahushua mean?

We are the sheep of His pasture. His sheep hear His voice. But a stranger's voice they will not hear.

If we have something to share from the Spirit of Yahweh how will it be presented?

His people are sheep, hungry for His word...needing to be fed. Not intimidated into submission with harsh words and idle threats that usually produces STRIFE.. this is a stranger's voice

How does Yahushua lead His sheep?

Isaiah 40:11 - He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.

We need to beware of the Pharisee's legacy:

Matthew 23:4 - For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

If we are chosen to feed His sheep, how will we treat them?

Will we..like Him..gather them with our arms gently lead them or will we smite them with our words?

Will we provoke the flesh by intimidating them with threats and condemnation or provoke them to love?

James 3:7 - For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.

James 3:8 - But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

James 3:9 - With it we bless YAHWEH our Father and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of YAHWEH.

James 3:10 - Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.

James 3:11 - Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?

James 3:12 - Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.

James 3:13 - Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct [that] his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

James 3:14 - But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.

James 3:15 - This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.

James 3:16 - For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

James 3:17 - But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.

James 3:18 - Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

James 4:1 - Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members?

Wars and fights often come from selfishness and pride

But if we have Yahweh's wisdom, let it be shared in the meekness of wisdom

I encourage all the brothers and sisters to have discretion and understanding toward one another.

Proverbs 19:11 - The discretion of a man deferreth his anger; and it is his glory to pass over a transgression.

We need to be longsuffering! The one we serve sure is!

Psalms 145:8 - YAHWEH is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.

Are we like Yahushua?

Yahushua takes the beatings and spittings of the enemy for our sakes and then says "Father forgive them".

Do we receive one small ounce of disrespect from a brother and then lash out like we have been slain?

Are we forgetting "The weightier matters of the law?"

Matthew 23:23 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

As Yahushua said...judgement, MERCY and faith are the weightier matters of the law. These we must do, without leaving the others undone.

These are characteristics of Yahushua and we must walk like He walked.

Ephesians 4:1 - I, therefore, the prisoner of Yahushua, beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called,

Ephesians 4:2 - with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love,

Ephesians 4:3 - endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

When we lack lowliness, gentleness and longsuffering. When we fail to bear with one another in love..then do we truly love our brother as we should?

Are we loving our brother as Yahushua loved us? This was His commandment:

John 13:34 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 13:35 - By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

We must love one another as Yahushua loved us. The world won't know that we are His disciples because of how smart we are or how wise and versed we are in scripture.

The world won't know that we are His disciples because of how well we know the Torah or how many college degrees we have in theology and doctrine

The world will know that we are His disciples by our love for one another. Will the innocent bystander find love among us?

If we lack this (and I speak for myself also)..we are all treading on very very dangerous ground!!

1John 3:10 - In this the children of YAHWEH and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of YAHWEH, nor is he who does not love his brother.

1John 4:20 - If someone says, "I love YAHWEH," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love YAHWEH whom he has not seen?

And for those who might say that the other is your enemy and not your brother then I call on you to "Love your enemies" as Yahushua commanded also.

Matthew 5:44 - But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 5:45 - That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Matthew 5:46 - For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

Matthew 5:47 - And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

Matthew 5:48 - Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

This is all about being perfect and blameless before Yahweh.

Question: If we cannot love our brother, how can we love our enemy?

And again if we cannot love our brother whom we have seen, how can we love Yahweh whom we have not seen?

Let's avoid the striving:

Titus 3:9 - But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Colossians 3:12 - Put on therefore, as the elect of YAHWEH, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

Colossians 3:13 - Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as the Messiah forgave you, so also do ye.

If Yahweh can move a mountain with His Spirit, then He surely doesn't need our red-faced yelling and screaming to accomplish His will and defeat any perceived enemy of His

Strife is a work of the FLESH. Not a fruit of the SPIRIT

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Galatians 5:20 - idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,

Galatians 5:21 - envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of YAHWEH.

They "which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of Yahweh!", strong words indeed. Yahweh help us!

Galatians 5:22 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

Galatians 5:23 - gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

Is the fruit of the Spirit among us or the works of the flesh?

I pray that all of us would begin to see the importance of having the fruits of the Spirit in every place.

At work, in forums, chat rooms and especially in our own homes.

Surely if we sow to the Spirit of the Spirit we'll reap LIFE (Forever!)

So let's sow to the Spirit!

Galatians 6:8 - For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

Galatians 6:9 - And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart.

Galatians 6:10 - Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.

Let's keep in mind that it is Yahweh's Spirit that convicts one of sin.

It is Yahweh's Spirit that should speak through us...Yahweh's Spirit does not need our fleshly anger to accomplish conviction in the life of any person, whether it be an unbeliever, believer or a member of our own family

James 1:19 - So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;

James 1:20 - for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of YAHWEH.

May Yahweh lead us all to the unity of faith that Yahushua prayed for

This will take longsuffering, kindness, humbleness, a spirit that is willing to be reproved, willing to hear and willing to make Shalom

May it be so among us, but let us remember where it all starts...

In our homes

Homes of strife become assemblies of strife, which affects everyone

But homes of peace will eventually bear assemblies of peace

May Yahweh convict our hearts bring us to the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace.. uniting every one of us.. not in error, but in truth that leads to everlasting life.

And may Yahweh bless you and have mercy on us all!

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J_M - Excellent and worthy of praise is the name of Yahweh!!!!!!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah!!!!!!! Let strife be gone among brethren and let love bind us all in the unity of faith. Hope in Yahweh!!!!!!!
barrykind_Melisa - Praise Yahweh for His manna.
Rosalinda - *H*A*L*L*E*L*U*Y*A*H*
Jozef_Lydia - Praise Yahweh for WORDS of truth. HalleluYAH. Good lesson!
LuvYah - \o/ HalleluYAH!! \o/
brose - Great. enjoyed it
leviha - eliyah ata yehudi?
messianic_sealed - that was fantastic
EliYah - not that I know of leviha
OneHeart - HalleluYah all praises are unto Yahweh , for worthy is He to receive !! HalleluYah !!
messianic_sealed - EliYah where are you from?
EliYah - Missouri
messianic_sealed - what part?
brose - Goodnight Yahweh bless all
Bud_Connie - Timely message. This week we had ordered a book on anger and the words we speak. How wonderful that the Ruach prepares our hearts for the subject matter before we assemble together!
messianic_sealed - I live in Ozark
EliYah - We're close to you then :)
Jozef_Lydia - Yes, a very timely message
messianic_sealed - really?
EliYah - HalleluYah!
LuvYah - Timely and in need indeed! ;o)
EliYah - You are welcome to join us next week for Shabbat
leviha - and the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth
messianic_sealed - I was going to a Messianic Snyagogue in springfield but I didnt believe it was from Yahweh, and they wanted My brother and I to start a synagogue in Ava
Bon - Shabbat Shalom everyone, sorry I missed your service.
messianic_sealed - We were so not ready for that
OneHeart - HalleluYah i loved the message,, it was very good timing indeed ;;-))
leviha - and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom Bon
Jozef_Lydia - Shabbat shalom. Bon
HaTikvah - Shabbat Shalom Bon
LuvYah - +col 1:12
EliYah - Amein, Leviha
Bon - Hi all :)
VictoryYaH - Shabbat Shalom Bon
Bon - Sounds like it was a good one?!!!
leviha - patient=forbearing
Bud_Connie - So just as our Father lets the sun shine on and the rain drop on all both the good and bad, so should our love and gentleness be poored out to all.
Jozef_Lydia - It was, Bon
LuvYah - halleluYAH!
EliYah - Blessed be Yahweh
leviha - i liked the point that you made about us needing mercy before the face of God, therefore we should be merciful
Bon - What was the theme today?
EliYah - What the scriptures say about Strife
leviha - but have you ever notice eliyah that when a believer is weary and worn out the enemies attack the most?
BeautifulRose_15 - Shabbat Shalom
EliYah - We all get tested.. and Yahweh knows what we can bear
Bud_Connie - The message Bon, is that we may know a lot of Torah and know all about the pagan holidays and when the Sabbath is BUT if we aren't kind and loving to others we may miss the boat. :(
leviha - i was flying last night
pjr - halleluyah
leviha - above the clouds
leviha - and could see detroit through the clouds
leviha - and all the lights
EliYah - Kindness and love is what the Torah is all about
donnee - Shabbat Shalom Rose
leviha - and thought
leviha - it's much better up here
leviha - in this pristine sky
EliYah - I can imagine so.. I've been to Detroit
leviha - it was like a maze below
Bon - Bud_Connie Thanks
EliYah - I know of Brethren there too by the way
leviha - and God guides us through that maze
leviha - and protects us in that maze
OneHeart - May we all remember Ephesians,6:10-24 - >>> Finally my brethren be strong in YHWH and in the power of His might.
Bon - It's so true isn't it?
BeautifulRose_15 - ((((((Donnee)))))))
claudia - it seems that it is "in the world" that the assembly will come from and be tested in
donnee - ty and ((((((((Rose))))))))))
leviha - and suddenly the specks of dust below which we are
leviha - didn't have that much significance
EliYah - By the power of Yahweh we can be in it, but not of it
leviha - anymore
leviha - i mean the plots and plans
claudia - what may seem bad to you from looking down may well contain some precious people of Yahweh
EliYah - And we can be a light that shines in the dark place
leviha - the snares
leviha - the brainwashing
leviha - up in the sky it seemed all like a joke
leviha - the power of man
leviha - seemed so puny
Bud_Connie - How far should kindness and love go? Would it mean attending a christmas party or supplying the music for an easter service? Surely not??
leviha - in the sky
claudia - i agree ..not..bud
Bon - eliyah, can I ask what is your lifestyle?...do you live in a city, the country, self sufficient,....etc
EliYah - It wouldn't be kindness to compromise our faith and thereby cause them to think it's ok to compromise our faith
claudia - stay away from those things
leviha - and i looked at the peaceful glowing heavens
EliYah - I live in the country
leviha - only polluted with the jets exhaust
leviha - and the cluttered filthy earth
leviha - and i prefer the heavens
EliYah - On a farm (the beginnings of one anyway :)
Jozef_Lydia - lol
claudia - is that better than the city?
leviha - and then i thougth my God will make a new heaven and a new earth
Jozef_Lydia - know the feeleing
EliYah - Yahushua is coming to cleanse this place
leviha - where all evil will be put away
LuvYah - more peaceful I'm sure!
leviha - and now i have to go back down there
leviha - and work for Him
leviha - but there was such a sense of peace
EliYah - We have 4 sheep, some chickens, parakeets, ducks, cats, dogs, rabbits...
claudia - many "country" people think the city is full of only evil..but there are precious people of Yahweh in cities as well as in the country
Bon - so are you working towards self sufficiency. Growing organic foods....eating your own livestock?
leviha - my anxiety about the future had disappeared
Jozef_Lydia - you mean you have a zoo?
LuvYah - Oh, the Peace of The Heavenly Father, Ahhhhhh.....
barrykind_Melisa - im wanting to flee the city :)
EliYah - We're trying to learn how to live off the land. Good lessons from it for the children

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