08/17/2007 Sabbath Meeting Transcript


"To Whom Shall We Go?"


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choosewho - burn with fire EliYah.. I am ready
WillseeYah - Shout with joy to Yahweh, All the earth!
WillseeYah - Sing out the splendor of His Name; Make His praise esteemed.
WillseeYah - How awesome are His works!
WillseeYah - We give thanks to You Elohim and Father of our Master Yahushua Messiah
WillseeYah - For the favour and blessings You have given us in Your son
WillseeYah - Without whom we would be hopeless sinners.
WillseeYah - Show us favour, O Elohim, According to Your kindness; According to the greatness of Your compassion,
WillseeYah - Blot out our transgressions. Wash us completely from our guilt,
WillseeYah - And cleanse us from our sin, from our failures to walk according to your desire.
WillseeYah - Thank you for bringing us all together again to celebrate and keep holy Your Sabbath.
WillseeYah - Thank you for all our blessings.
WillseeYah - We long to grow in wisdom, learn your truth and grow in the love of You
WillseeYah - Bless the teaching of Brother Eliyah and fill him with the words of your Holy Spirit
WillseeYah - Increase in us the knowledge and wisdom of You.
WillseeYah - We ask in the name of Yahushua, Your Son.
WillseeYah - HalleluYah! Amein.

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!!

John 6:53 - Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 6:54 - Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:55 - For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

John 6:56 - He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

John 6:57 - As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

John 6:58 - This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

John 6:59 - These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

John 6:60 - Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

John 6:61 - When Yahushua knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

John 6:62 - What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 6:64 - But there are some of you that believe not. For Yahushua knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 - And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

John 6:66 - From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

John 6:67 - Then said Yahushua unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

"To whom shall we go?"

Kepha asks a good question

When Yahushua spoke, because many didn't seek to understand, many didn't believe.

Many walked away from him because they didn't care to understand.

John 6:66 - From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

We see similar things today.

But the remnant, the disciples believed.

They believed in the word of Yahweh, spoken through Yahushua.

And rather than questioning it, they sought the understanding and found it.

They knew that Yahshua had the words of eternal life..as He had said.

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

There is nowhere else to go,

For the alternative is the way of fools

When we see a 'hard saying' in His word, it isn't the source that we ought to question but we should always ask "What is its meaning as Yahweh intended?"

John 6:69 - And we believe and are sure that thou art the Messiah, the Son of the living Elohim.

John 6:70 - Yahushua answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

John 6:71 - He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

Judas must not have truly believed.

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The Word (Yahushua) is food indeed.

Is all of His word our food, or just a part?

Do we set aside or ignore the food that isn't so tasty to our flesh?

Do we say, "Well, that's just the Old Testament?"

Or do we, as some say, "That's just Paul's writings?"

Or do we say, "Feed me with the fullness of Your Bread Abba Yahweh!?"

Consider again Kepha's words:

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

"To whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life"

Consider in our own lives...

If we believe in Messiah, do we believe that Yahweh being with us is sufficient?

Do we need more?

Are we seeking other things to fulfill the things only He can fulfill?

Though we understand not all His ways, do we fail to ever seek His ways?

Psalms 17:14 - From men which are thy hand, O YAHWEH, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.

Psalms 17:15 - As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

When Yahweh is fully and truly in us, there is no want for things of this world.

1John 2:15 - Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1John 2:16 - For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world.

1John 2:17 - And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of YAHWEH abides forever.

In Yahweh, the void is filled.

The empty space is empty no more

Only Yahweh is eternal and only He is big enough to fill the void.

Money, family, drugs, wine, women, song, acceptance by men are all vain pursuits that only seem to fill the empty space for a time.

They are cheap substitutes for Yahweh our Mighty One!

He is able to heal us, not only physically.. but our hearts also.

The medicines of this world only cover the pain and treat apparent symptoms, but Yahushua heals the real problem.

When we let Him fully dwell in us and work in our lives, we have no desire to lust after the pleasures of the flesh. We seek fully His righteousness.

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of YAHWEH, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Matthew 5:6 - Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Philippians 3:7 - But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for the Messiah.

Philippians 3:8 - Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of the Messiah Yahushua my Master: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win the Messiah,

There simply is nothing to compare to Yahweh.

Psalms 89:6 - For who in the heaven can be compared unto YAHWEH? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto YAHWEH?

Therefore, even in the midst of a long, tough day/week at work or wherever we are...think back to these scriptures and realize that all these things are temporary.

In the end their importance in comparison to Yahweh is nothing.

Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Journey back into reality...where the troubles of this world are nothing...only a passing moment.

James 4:13 - Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit";

James 4:14 - whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.

The troubles will come...

But in the troubles...to whom shall we go?

Psalms 73:24 - Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.

Psalms 73:25 - Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.

Psalms 73:26 - My flesh and my heart faileth: but Elohim is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.

This is what all of us need to continually learn.

We often by our human reasoning try to resolve something when One mightier than we has all the answers.

In seeking wisdom and truth and direction, to whom shall we go?

James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of YAHWEH, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.

So when we ask Yahweh for wisdom in faith, He will give it. This is a promise! He is the source of wisdom and the source of truth.

Today, we live in an age of opportunity.

An opportunity to gain understanding of Yahweh, and understanding of our purpose here on earth.

We can gain understanding through His word.

His word is so readily available. We can search the scriptures with a few simple keystrokes

His word is easy to acquire, and found in abundance.

So my brethren, now is the time to seek and be given wisdom and fed by Spiritual food.

Now is not the time to fill our minds with the world's garbage, or spend our time in idleness.

Now is the time to seek Yahweh.

For I do believe, the night cometh when no man can work.

The night cometh when no man can open the scriptures except from what He hid in his heart during the times of plenty.

We should be preparing ourselves.

Preparing ourselves for when persecution, not ease, will dominate our lives.

Therefore, let's take hold!

Lest we run out of oil

For time spent in unnecessary things that are not eternal is wasted time

The world seeks their own, but we must seek Yahweh in all things.

Philippians 2:21 - For all seek their own, not the things which are Yahushua the Messiah's.

When we need salvation, to whom shall we go?

Will we try to make it by ourselves?

To be obedient by our own power and strength?

Indeed nearly every trial I have endured has taught me not to rely on myself but to give it ALL to Him. To put Him first

This is what He loves to do, what an awesome Elohim!

We all have sinned, then to whom shall we go?

Let's go to the King!

Jeremiah 23:5 - Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

Jeremiah 23:6 - In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Yahweh can be our righteousness through Yahushua the Messiah if we repent and and trust in Him.

He has made a way for us to be forgiven for our sins. It is the way Yahweh has chosen to save those who do seek repentance.

So let's consider the things that Yahweh has done!

Among many things, Yahweh is the source of eternal life, a very present help in trouble and the source of all wisdom and truth.

From whom do we seek wisdom and truth? From whom do we seek life?

Man alone?

Christianity?

Self-help books?

The Media?

Let's seek Yahweh!

Let's remove all obstacles from our lives

Let's take away the stumbling blocks!

The stumbling block and obstacle to truth is so often MAN.

When a truth is shared, the first question often asked is "What about so and so..they never did that, are they lost?"

Such a person often will never accept the truth, based on the fact that these others whom they love..have not. This is placing man before Yahweh.

Others spend their time excusing their own disobedience by blaming others

One spouse will blame the other for their failure to do what Yahweh tells them to do.

Thus, we have man being placed before Yahweh.

Why should it be thus?

When we stand before Him on the day of judgment the blame game will not be played with any effectiveness

Let's put no other elohim before Him.

Our relationship with Yahweh is personal. We should question things in light of scripture rather than in light of what others do.

It's us ....

And HIM

No one in between us except Yahushua the perfect One, who intercedes for us.

Yahweh desires that we seek Him with a whole heart

Jeremiah 29:13 - And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Let's do that

Let's allow His word to penetrate our hearts.

Knowing that He cares about us, even when man does not

He will never fail us

He will never forsake us

But should we deny Him, He will deny us.

Matthew 10:33 - But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

2Timothy 2:11 - It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

2Timothy 2:12 - If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

2Timothy 2:13 - If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Therefore, in all things..to whom shall we go?

It is more than a "once in a lifetime" decision

It is a daily decision. Everyday we make our choices. We choose who we will serve...whether we will sin or not.

If today we have made the wrong ones, tomorrow we can make the right ones.

It is our choice.

This world, what does if have to offer us?

Pleasure for a time?

Answers for a time?

Temporary pleasures and temporary answers.

These things we must not seek. They are not eternal!!

But what Yahweh gives, He gives for eternity.

When man speaks a promising word, it perishes with him.

But not Yahweh. His law, His commandments, His promises, His salvation...yes, all these things He is given us...Forever!

Psalms 119:160 - Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Some might say the law was not perfect

They do not understand that the word in Hebrew "Torah" (translated law) means "instruction, teaching". Would Yahweh give an imperfect teaching?

It is man that is imperfect, not His teaching!

Psalms 19:7 - The law of YAHWEH is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of YAHWEH is sure, making wise the simple.

Psalms 19:8 - The statutes of YAHWEH are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of YAHWEH is pure, enlightening the eyes.

Psalms 19:9 - The fear of YAHWEH is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of YAHWEH are true and righteous altogether.

Psalms 19:10 - More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

Psalms 19:11 - Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Those among Yahushua in John 6 said it was a hard saying.

They said "This is a hard saying. Who can know it?"

Therefore they did not believe.

Because they did not understand, nor seek to understand.

Must we also understand everything before we will believe?

Or will we believe, that we might be given the understanding?

Are we hanging onto the world that ever-changes'?

Or are we holding onto the hand that never changes?

Who do we trust for salvation?

Will it be in the traditions that we have inherited?

Will it be in the commandments and doctrines of men that do not profit?

Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.

Jeremiah 17:5 - Thus saith YAHWEH; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from YAHWEH.

It's all vain

Any worship toward Him that He has not ordained or accepted is vain.

Christmas, Easter, Sunday sabbaths, false names, false baptisms, false traditions that we have assumed to be right in the past have deceived us :(

Oh yes, we wish to say that we have departed from errors in tradition... but have we?

We associate certain things in scripture a certain way because it is the way that others around us have done it.

For instance, do we really worship Yahweh?

Today, people get together and play instruments, sing and make melodies. They call this "worship "

There is one "worship" CD after another in Christian music stores.

But singing is not actually worship. Singing is singing.

What is worship?

Getting on your face before Yahweh and doing obeisance.

Worship in the Hebrew language means:

#7812 shachah shaw-khaw' a primitive root; to depress, i.e. prostrate (especially reflexive, in homage to royalty or God):--bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.

How many "houses of worship" today really do that?

Few houses of worship actually worship.

How many times do we truly worship in a week?

We might worship in our minds in a spiritual sense.

But full and true worship involves a humble prostration before the King of Kings.

It can be observed so often that we associate certain things in His word because that is what others do.

Let's humble ourselves and seek the truth of His word.

It can be more difficult to "unlearn" than to "learn"

But we must beware of the false prophets brethren!! Beware of false traditions!!

Beware, lest we be found in the hands of the wolf!

Or the hands of Babylon the great!

There is no better place than in Yahweh's hands..Seeking His will.

Let's hear the voice of the good Shepherd ... calling for His sheep.

John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

He wants to know You.

Do you know Him?

Do we recognize and receive His voice, and follow it?

Or do we hear it and question it?

Or do we hear it and ignore it?

The lonely lamb not following the voice of the shepherd will be left alone -- to be taken by a wolf

We need to choose to remain in HIS grip.

John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 - My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

We need only follow the voice of the Good Shepherd.

Beware of hirelings! They care not for the sheep.

Oh to be in His care forever!

Safely in His hands

A place of rest.

A place of peace..

Security, and love

Light and truth

Life

Abundant life

John 10:7 - Then said Yahushua unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

John 10:8 - All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

John 10:9 - I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

John 10:11 - I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

John 10:12 - But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

John 10:13 - The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

Yahushua does care. He will protect us in His love.

Tonight I want to invite anyone who is 'sitting on the fence' between serving Yahweh and not serving Him to consider these words.

And tonight I want to invite anyone who is 'sitting on the fence' between serving Yahweh with truth or doctrines of men to consider these words

Isaiah 55:6 - Seek ye YAHWEH while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

Isaiah 55:7 - Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto YAHWEH, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our Elohim, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isaiah 55:8 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith YAHWEH.

Isaiah 55:9 - For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Isaiah 55:10 - For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

Isaiah 55:11 - So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

May His word going out toward us...prosper.

We need only seek to be the good soil.

Yahushua will be here soon. Let's seek Yahweh while He may be found

And call upon Him while He is near

His Word.. the words of eternal life.

Ecclesiastes 12:1 - Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

Ecclesiastes 12:2 - While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain:

Ecclesiastes 12:3 - In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened,

Ecclesiastes 12:4 - And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low;

Ecclesiastes 12:5 - Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:

Ecclesiastes 12:6 - Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto Elohim who gave it.

Ecclesiastes 12:8 - Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

Solomon eventually learned... All is vanity

Let's learn early

And let's seek Yahweh, putting Him first in all things.

He already IS FIRST, we just need to live our lives in recognition of that.

Of wisdom, Yahweh has said:

Proverbs 8:17 - I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

Let's seek Him early, before it is too late

Let's seek Yahweh in ALL things.

To whom shall we go?

Tonight I ask, "To whom will you go?"

Go to life..

Go to truth !

Go to Yahweh !

in ALL things

May Yahweh bless you and may He have mercy on us all!

End


SamW - Praise YHWH!
Yisra`el - halleluYah
yahoSeph_kol-Debash - halleluyah
Y_and_T - HalleluYah!!!
choosewho - HalleluYah.... Praise Yah in The Highest.. Let his fire lift his People!!!!!!! As for me and my House we will Choose Yahweh!!!!
Angel - HALLELUYAH!
Kathy - HalleluYah!
choosewho - !trs
way - halleluyah amein
choosewho - !isa 28 16 18
bluesun - praise YHWH
terrapin - Halleluyah! we are blessed from Yahweh that we may join spiritually in this room!
SamW - Amein to that terrapin :)
Kara - HalleluYah!
EliYah - Blessed be Yahweh :)
Angel - !RS
choosewho - !trs
bluesun - what you shared, EliYah, reminds me of a dream I had some years ago :)
EliYah - Please do share, bluesun
hadasah - love the change in this chat room...
bluesun - It was a dream that was like a nightmare, in my place all around, there was war, and there were people with guns looking to kill, my brother and I was hiding under our house
bluesun - I was so afraid, and trembling, I could see the gunners' legs running around our house. I felt I was about to die, there were bombings around our house
terrapin - Had, what is different? this is my first time here
bluesun - In my fear, I despaired, and said, "where are you???" (I was directing my prayer to the Heavenly Father), He seemed absent in this fear of mine
hadasah - Interesting dream.....I"ve heard many pple have this type of dreams in the last days..
bluesun - and this quiet realisation came to me, all the times of peace, I had the chance to read His word, it would've prepared me for this time
hadasah - Its colorful...blue, red, green...all new on my screen....
bluesun - then I woke up, trembling and soaked with sweat
Y_and_T - Shabbat Shalom Hadasah
hadasah - shalom YandT...
EliYah - wow, bluesun
bluesun - I've never had such a nightmare like this, before... it all seemed so real
yahoSeph_kol-Debash - my my
hadasah - bluesun....many ppl around the world are having these types of dreams in these last days...I;ve read some on the enternet....many have posted it....
Angel - bluesun your dream might come to pass very soon
hadasah - You not alone with these kind of dreams.....
ReJoiCe - !search not dismayed signs
ReJoiCe - +jerem 10 2
yahoSeph_kol-Debash - didnt yahushua say something about doing what we can while its still light,,coz the dark days are coming
bluesun - I need to get back to reading His Word more... EliYah's study reminded me of this
hadasah - Some will have dreams and visions in the last days....

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