Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 07/10/98

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EliYah - Bro Yerm will offer prayer

YermeYah - Abba YHWH, Kodesh be thy Name forever...

YermeYah - In the Name of Yahushua haMashiach we gather here before you...

YermeYah - to worship you and to learn of your word on your Sabbath Day...

YermeYah - we ask that you look down upon us with favor and mercy

YermeYah - please bless the speaker this evening to bring forth Your Word...

YermeYah - to edify your people...

YermeYah - please forgive us for our sins as we forgive those who have sinned against us...

YermeYah - Abba, we thank you more than anything else for Yahushua and his precious blood...

YermeYah - please help us to be worthy to be covered over with it..

YermeYah - In Yahushua's name we ask these things, thank you Father, HalleluYAH

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!
Some of you certainly know what I am about to share tonite but I think that some of you may not..
Tonite I would like to share with you what I believe that The Heavenly Father has shown me to be very very important
There is a certain scripture given that asks an question

Proverbs 30:4 - Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

Yes, I think that this asks a very important question
All throughout scripture, names are lifted up as having importance
They had meanings
Those who named things had authority over what was being named...
or who
For Instance, Adam named the animals
And his wife
Our Father renamed Abram
And the Savior renamed Simon
The Savior was given a name by the Heavenly Father through an angel to Miriam/Mary
But the Heavenly Father named Himself since there is none greater!
Now, I ask..should man rename Yahweh??
Do we have authority over Him? To rename Him??
Surely we can't..but MEN have attempted to rename Him!
Particularly in our common translated scriptures...
When we see "The Lord" in the Old Testament, the Hebrew reads YAHWEH
Those who translated the scriptures took liberty to rename our Heavenly Father!
But because of tradition, this has come about..not by divine commandment!
Rather, the commandment tells us not to take His name in vain
Many take the third commandment to mean that we should not curse Yahweh's name.
It certainly does mean this!!
However it also means that we should not replace His name with a substitute such as "the Lord"

Deuteronomy 5:11 - Thou shalt not take the name of YAHWEH thy Elohim in vain: for YAHWEH will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

This translation is based on the King James Version
The original Hebrew word used that is translated "Vain" is 'Shav'
This is an interesting word
This Hebrew word "Shav" means desolating, vain, vanity, or falsehood.
Now let us look here in these same ten commandments where we will find this same Hebrew word 'Shav' but it is translated differently:

Deuteronomy 5:20 - Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Here we have the same Hebrew word "shav" translated 'false'!
Now what have people done to Yahweh's name?
It has been falsified!
Someone was a 'false' witness here!
His name has been taken out of the way thereby making it vain. The third commandment could easily be translated "Thou shalt not falsify the name of Yahweh thy Elohim: for Yahweh will not hold (him) guiltless that falsifies His name"
So if we want to keep the ten commandments, we should never replace Yahweh's name with a false one. Doing so would be breaking the third commandment.
Now there are other ways to make His name vain also
Those who bear and proclaim His name must walk in righteousness!!
When we do not.. people will say "This is the people of Yahweh" and will associate His wonderful name with unrighteousness
So this is one way of taking His name in vain also!
So how did Yahweh's name get changed to "The Lord" ?
Perhaps it began when some Jews began to hold the belief that His name is too awesome to be pronounced
Oh how I wished they would have hearkened unto scripture!

Proverbs 14:12 - There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

In the scriptures we are told to praise, exalt, bless, love, teach, preach, anoint, assemble, believe, give thanks, honor and call on His name.
not remove it from our lips, hearts and writings!
But they began to replace His name with "Adonai" which in English means "Lord"
And they forbade speaking His name. The only person permitted speaking His name was the High Priest on the Day of Atonement
But why did they choose a name meaning 'lord' ?
Could it be because many of them were influenced by another one named 'lord', namely "Baal"??
It seems no coincedence that the word "Baal" also means Lord
What did EliYah the prophet say?

1Kings 18:21 - And EliYah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if YAHWEH be Elohim, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

But when EliYah called on the name of Yahweh and not "Lord", his voice was heard by Yahweh!
Granted Baal is a different deity but we know that satan loves to 'muddy the waters!"
Now, what do the scriptures have to say about the name of our Creator and its importance to Him?

Micah 4:5 - For all people will walk every one in the name of his elohim, and we will walk in the name of YAHWEH our Elohim for ever and ever.

We are to walk in the name of YAHWEH
Not another name
"The Lord" is NOT a translation, it is a direct substitution!
A replacement of men
Yahweh commands us that we call on His name

Joel 2:32 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as YHWH hath said, and in the remnant whom YHWH shall call.

So the scriptures say "whosoever shall call on the name of YAHWEH shall be delivered"
It is not "the Lord" or any other substitution
like HaShem (meaning "The Name") or adonai or any other replacement for His name that man may invent
Now what is the meaning of this word "Name"?
Some say that it only means "His person or character"
I agree that it does mean His person or character, but there is certainly more
The Hebrew word that is translated "Name" is "Shem"
Here is the Strong's lexicon definition of "Shem"
Strong's # 8034 Shem; a primitive word [perhaps rather from 7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare 8064]; an appellation, AS A MARK or memorial of individuality
As you can see from the above definition, Yahweh's name is not only represents His character but the Name Yahweh is also
HIS MARK! What is a mark but something that is written?
The Name YAHWEH also is His memorial of individuality. This definition goes hand in hand with scripture:

Exodus 3:15 - And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YAHWEH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

It is His 'memorial unto all generations.'
Think about this...
Man has set up many memorials for himself. What if someone had gone up and desecrated one of those memorials?
Yahweh has set up His memorial to ALL Generations.. Yahweh is His name forever
Some may ask..."Why has Yahweh allowed His name to be hidden?
I believe that it is one of many truths that Yahweh has hidden

Proverbs 25:2 - It is the glory of Elohim to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Let's look at more scripture
Scripture is the ultimate test of truth

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Psalms 105:1 - O give thanks unto YAHWEH; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people.

Psalms 116:13 - I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of YAHWEH.

Psalms 116:7 - Return unto thy rest, O my soul; for YAHWEH hath dealt bountifully with thee.

oops :)

Psalms 116:17 - I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon the name of YAHWEH.

Isaiah 12:4 - And in that day shall ye say, Praise YAHWEH, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.

And here is an interesting scripture...
It speaks of the end times..
Who will call on His name?
His people!

Zechariah 13:9 - And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YAHWEH is my Elohim.

And here again!

Malachi 3:16 - Then they that feared YAHWEH spake often one to another: and YAHWEH hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared YAHWEH, and that thought upon his name.

And to the Philadelphia Assembly it was said..

Revelations 3:8 - "I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name.

Never once in the scriptures are we told to Hide His name...but rather to PROCLAIM it!

Psalms 34:3 - O magnify YAHWEH with me, and let us exalt his name together.

Psalms 148:13 - Let them praise the name of YAHWEH: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

Psalms 44:8 - In Elohim we boast all the day long, and praise thy name for ever. Selah.

Once again, we see His end time people wear His name..

Revelations 14:1 - Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.

What name is this? Surely we must know
And we "Must" proclaim it in righteousness
I believe that we have an opportunity my brethren
For the world does not know His name as given by HIM
And now we can proclaim it in righteousness..
not mixed with the paganism
but in total purity!
I for one take this call VERY seriously!
How we live our lives will determine how the world views "Yahweh"
Will we stand firm?
Will we indeed have the faith the Yahshua is looking for?
And will we answer the call to Repent!?!?!?
I pray so..
We know that He WILL lead us..if only for His name's sake

Psalms 23:1 - YAHWEH is my shepherd; I shall not want.

Psalms 23:2 - He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

Psalms 23:3 - He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Consider the example that Yahweh left us
When the children of Israel were scattered

Ezekiel 36:17 - Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

Ezekiel 36:18 - Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:

Ezekiel 36:19 - And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

Ezekiel 36:20 - And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of YAHWEH, and are gone forth out of his land.

Ezekiel 36:21 - But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

Ezekiel 36:22 - Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Master YAHWEH; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

Ezekiel 36:23 - And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am YAHWEH, saith the Master YAHWEH, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Ezekiel 36:24 - For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Ezekiel 36:25 - Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

Ezekiel 36:26 - A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Ezekiel 36:27 - And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Ezekiel 36:28 - And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your Elohim.

All because Yahweh has concern for His Holy/Kodesh Name!
I pray that we will answer the call..sanctify ourselves..go out from among them!
And be seperate/holy!
We will be blessed, I assure you..we will be blesse
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Psalms 118:26 - Blessed be he that cometh in the name of YAHWEH: we have blessed you out of the house of YAHWEH.

Because of the name we proclaim
So in closing I would like to say..
"Blessed be the name of Yahweh, HALLELUYAH!!!!"
HalleluYAH!!!!

End

Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YHWH!!

crash - HalleluYah!!!

Beverley - HalleluYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YermeYah - HalleluYAH!

Ebed - Praise YAHWEH!

Beverley - \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/

BrTom - HalleluYAH \o/ \o/ \o/

drexel - PRAISE YAHWEH!!!!

TrustInYHWH - HalleluYah!! \o/ HalleluYahweh!!

Jonas - You are speaking to my heart.

Yahchanan - Blessed be the Name of Yahweh

yehu - Shabbat Shalom to All

Jonas - It is by no accident that I came here. This is something that has troubled me to no end.

DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom Yehu :)

drexel - SHALOM, yehu

Berean - Shabbat Shalom All!

Beverley - Shalom drexel

TrustInYHWH - Shabbat Shalom all!!

Dalyn - Shabbat Shalom Berean

Muzz1 - Shabbat shalom everyone! from aussie land down under

Ebed - +psal 103:1

Beverley - Shalom muzzi

Jonas - I know how it is spelled, but how is it pronounced? I know Yah, but is the vav a W or a V?

EliYah - Ancient Hebrew is W

yehu - anyone talking?

Berean - Shabbat Shalom Aleichem!!!

drexel - Shalom, Beverly

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Muzz1 - shalom Beverley. Thank very much for your biblical help for me in preparing that youth study about peer pressure

Beverley - How did it go?

TrustInYHWH - When is Tamar going to be able to come back?

yehu - am I broken on this end?

YermeYah - Lyla Tov all (good night)

DelaYah - no you are coming thru Yehu :)

BrBill - +gen 22 16

DelaYah - Lyla tov Yerm

Muzz1 - i'm still preparing it on powerpoint for presentation in a couple of Shabbat's time

Berean - ...L.....i.....e.....la... YermeYah ...T.....o.....v.....!...

BrBill - +heb 6 13

Beverley - HalleluYAH!!!!

drexel - i wonder about the pronounciation of his Holy name

drexel - some say Yahweh, and others say Yahuweh

yehu - watchman, am I broke?

Berean - drexel........it for sure isn't lord, or god

BrBill - It is still the name ..

drexel - yes I do agree with that

Berean - yehu, you are not broke...i think

BrBill - The family name YAH.

yehu - I am seeing no responses, I go out and try again

drexel - But, I know that his name is VERY important and I think we should pronounce it correctly

Berean - Shalom yehu

drexel - hmmmm, Berean....

Beverley - Notice how many of the prophets names end in yahu

yehu - shabat shalom

drexel - yes, I notice that

EliYah - http://eliyah.com/proof.htm <------- What I believe is the correct pronunciation

drexel - :), thanks EliYah

TrustInYHWH - Yehoshua

crash - Shabbat Shalom Yehu

TrustInYHWH - That's what Strong's has in it.

drexel - TIY, is that how you think it is pronounced?

EliYah - Are there any questions/comments?

TrustInYHWH - no drexel

drexel - NO, you had a wonderful service!!! Thank you

Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YHWH!!

BrBill - YAHoweh, YAHuweh, YAHvah, YAHveh, YAHweh, they all say YAH. Which is the correct?

drexel - I didn't think it was, I have seen you write it differently, TIY

yehu - Is there a copy of the she'ema around I can download with Hebrew pronounciation?

Berean - +deu 18 20

EliYah - Shema Yisrael, Yahweh Elohainu, Yahweh Echad!

TrustInYHWH - I think we're swallowing a camel here

Berean - +matt 7 6 7

EliYah - Shema Yisrael, Yahweh Elohainu, Yahweh Echad! <------ Shema in Hebrew

Muzz1 - Beverley has been very helpful to me in preparing a youth bible study on 'peer pressure'. Do any of you here have some worthwhile scriptures or comments about peer pressure, what it is and how to combat and overcome it?

Berean - ups,

EliYah - :)

Berean - +matt 7 7 8

drexel - wonderful scripture, Berean...

BrBill - EliYah, that is very good.

yehu - Thanks Eliyah!

EliYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/

DelaYah - muzz let me think :)

DelaYah - Shalom muzz :)

DelaYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/

TrustInYHWH - +psalms 68:4

BrTom - Muzz1, Can I get a copy of your peer pressure study?

TrustInYHWH - Can I get a copy too?

Berean - +rom 8 31

yehu - As regards pronouncing YHWH, in the Encyclopedia Judiaca it feels the correct pronounciation is Yahweh, although they feel that may also be a shorten form of the name

Beverley - Yahushua and all the apostles had to deal with peer pressure.

Muzz1 - sure BrTom when i finish the powerpoint presentation. just send me your email

EliYah - That verse (psalms 68:4) is the only place that you will find His name in the KJV (Jah, pronounced "Yah")

EliYah - The NKJV has "Yah" there

BrTom - user723492@aol.com

DelaYah - muzz here are a few :)

DelaYah - ;

DelaYah - muzz here are a few :)

TrustInYHWH - Muzzl, may I have a copy....my wife is a counselor?

DelaYah - ;

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:10 - My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:11 - If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:12 - Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:13 - We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:14 - Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:15 - My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:

EliYah - Psalms 43:5 - Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope in Elohim: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my Elohim.

DelaYah - Proverbs 1:16 - For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.

EliYah - Shalom IceDove :)

BrTom - Hi IceDove!! Welcome. Good Sabbath.

Muzz1 - sure TrustinYHWH just send me your email to aaaken@uq.net.au and i'll send you the powerpoint presentation

DelaYah - Shalom IceDove :)

IceDove - hi there

Jonas - I am sorry. I crashed.

DelaYah - welcome back Jonas :)

EliYah - Are there any last questions/comments before we go into prayer?

Jonas - I hope I that did not miss anything.

TrustInYHWH - DISCIPLE IN THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YHWH!!

DelaYah - YEs YHWH has blessed us by His name !!!!

DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!!!!!!

Beverley - A couple of hours ago we had 80 mph streight line winds

Beverley - lots of damage around town

Beverley - nothing here. HallelYAH!!!

EliYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/

Berean - +rom 8 35

TrustInYHWH - HalleluYah, Beverley !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

drexel - I saw that on the weather, it's just south of here now. Praise Yahweh for protecting Beverly

DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!!

DelaYah - What a wonderful KING we serve!~

Beverley - \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/ \0/

DelaYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/

Saly - Praise Yahweh!

BrTom - HalleluYAH \o/ \o/ \o/

Ebed - \o/ \o/ \o/ \0/ \0/ \o/ \o/ \o/

DelaYah - EliYah?

EliYah - Yes brother

Beverley - drexel HE will protect you also. Praise YHWH

DelaYah - can we see the tetra?

crash - +mat 23 73 75

DelaYah - everyone ?

EliYah - PRAISE ALMIGHTY

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TrustInYHWH - do you think Yahweh controls every minute of the weather, or merely set a process in motion and maintains the process only??

crash - These verses make a good study on peer pressure

DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DelaYah - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DelaYah - \O/

drexel - Yes, beverly, i have faith he will protect us too.

Beverley - I think His laws of weather or in process. However, I believe that HE prevents it from harming His people

DelaYah - YHWH allows satan to use the weather against us

EliYah - Yahshua said He sends the rain on the just and unjust

Saly - Amen, Bev

Beverley - true

TrustInYHWH - Eliyah, I believe you just answered my question

Jonas - You spoke to my heart tonight. This has plagued me for a few months. I know how to spell his name, but how is it pronounced? I know Yah, but is the vav a W or a V?

Beverley - But HE is in control

DelaYah - Job 1:18 - While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:

DelaYah - Job 1:19 - And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.

DelaYah - Yes He is :)

TrustInYHWH - Yes Beverly, that goes without saying

DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!!

EliYah - Ancient Hebrew is W.. modern is V. I like the ancient

EliYah - Are there any prayer requests tonite?

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