07/05/2002 Sabbath Meeting Transcript

"The Wisdom of Yahweh"

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Jozef - Heavenly Father YAHWEH of Shalom, We praise and magnify Your GREAT NAME again today in this room.
Jozef - We praise and rejoice in your promise of a better future through Yahushua
Jozef - It is great to come together and discuss all what you have promised, the restoration of ALL THINGS.
Jozef - But we also are aware that this does not come unless we, your people, are made ready and already start implementing your Government rules in our daily lives.
Jozef - It is You who set the RULES, and it is Your King You have chosen to rule over our realm, One who is worthy and Righteous Like you are Father.
Jozef - His Name is Yahushua, who when walking on this planet so many years ago showed what your Kingdom was all about.
Jozef - We, who live now are seeking again to understand what he was teaching, for we believe that there is no other government that will solve mankind's problems but Yours.
Jozef - May we today, again, be instructed in this Wisdom from on High, and grasp the principles and regulations which will enable us to pass through the earthbound, and mental realm, in order to grasp the vision which we need to go on to perfection.
Jozef - Give us Your Holy Spirit in measure today, that we may be helped in ALL ways to be delivered from this system of greed, control, hate, money loving, sex-madness,and so on,
Jozef - but instead be fruitful in the better things like LOVE, and Patience, and all fruits of the Spirit.
Jozef - Protect this room from intruders and despisers of truth, from wolves in sheep-clothing, and self-righteousness,
Jozef - Help and inspire the young and new ones among us, and give us all the grace to be as one Father.
Jozef - Deliver us from ALL evil, in what form of shape, that which might be within us, or around us. Set us free as Your promise that through your Word we will be FREE indeed!
Jozef - We also pray your presence and blessings upon all the ones that can't make it today.
Jozef - As we are eager to hear from your servant[s] to be again build up in our most Holy faith, in Yahushua... Your Word, our King and High-priest, in who's name we ask all these things.
Jozef - So be it, HalleluYah

EliYah's message:


In this age there is a lot of knowledge, freely accessible to any who seek it

Knowledge of our world, the sciences that seek to understand it, knowledge of languages and cultures of the past

But in this age, who will seek wisdom?

Tonight I would like to talk about "Wisdom".

I speak not of the wisdom of this world

But I wish to talk about the wisdom of Yahweh

Yahweh is wise and full of knowledge:

1Samuel 2:3 - Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for YAHWEH is an El of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

There is no lack of knowledge in Him:

Job 36:4 - For truly my words shall not be false: he that is perfect in knowledge is with thee.
Job 37:16 - Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
Psalms 147:5 - Great is our YAHWEH, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

Truly, there is no way to match His wisdom:

Isaiah 40:28 - Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting Elohim, YAHWEH, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.
Romans 11:33 - O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of YAHWEH! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Psalms 139:1 - O YAHWEH, thou hast searched me, and known me.
Psalms 139:2 - Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
Psalms 139:3 - Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
Psalms 139:4 - For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O YAHWEH, thou knowest it altogether.
Psalms 139:5 - Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
Psalms 139:6 - Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

Yet He gives wisdom to the wise:

Daniel 2:20 - Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of Elohim for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
Daniel 2:21 - And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
Daniel 2:22 - He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

How about us, should we seek His wisdom?

Proverbs 3:13 - Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
Proverbs 3:14 - For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.
Proverbs 3:15 - She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.
Proverbs 3:16 - Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.
Proverbs 3:17 - Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.
Proverbs 3:18 - She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.
Proverbs 4:5 - Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Proverbs 4:6 - Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
Proverbs 4:7 - Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

If we really considered that our days are numbered, it might cause us to seek wisdom:

Psalms 90:12 - So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.

If we do not seek wisdom, we walk on dangerous ground:

Proverbs 1:21 - She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
Proverbs 1:20 - Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
Proverbs 1:21 - She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
Proverbs 1:22 - How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Proverbs 1:23 - Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Proverbs 1:24 - Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
Proverbs 1:25 - But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
Proverbs 1:26 - I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Proverbs 1:27 - When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Proverbs 1:28 - Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Proverbs 1:29 - For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of YAHWEH:
Proverbs 1:30 - They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.

Dangerous ground indeed!

Some wondered where the Messiah got all His wisdom:

Matthew 13:54 - And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

He got it from Yahweh.

Proverbs 2:6 - For YAHWEH giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

If we have wisdom, others can know from whom we learned it:

Luke 21:15 - For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Acts 4:13 - Now when they saw the boldness of Kepha and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Yahushua.

For in Him is all Wisdom:

Colossians 2:1 - For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;
Colossians 2:2 - That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of YAHWEH, the Father, and of the Messiah;
Colossians 2:3 - In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Ecclesiastes 12:11 - The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

For He is the Word and the Word of Yahweh IS wisdom.

But how do we begin to gain wisdom?

Job 28:28 - And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of YAHWEH, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of YAHWEH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 9:10 - The fear of YAHWEH is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Psalms 110:10 -
Psalms 111:10 - The fear of YAHWEH is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

At least 4 times in the word of Yahweh we are told that the fear of Yahweh is the beginning of wisdom.

Some act as if we need not fear Yahweh at all. Yahushua said:

Luke 12:5 - But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

We can ask Yahweh for wisdom and we will receive it, if we ask in faith:

James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of YAHWEH, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
James 1:6 - But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
James 1:7 - For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from YAHWEH;

The Psalmist cried out to Yahweh for wisdom:

Psalms 119:169 - Let my cry come near before thee, O YAHWEH: give me understanding according to thy word.

And wisdom cries out unto all:

Proverbs 8:1 - Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Proverbs 8:2 - She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Proverbs 8:3 - She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
Proverbs 8:4 - Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
Proverbs 8:5 - O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
Proverbs 8:6 - Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
Proverbs 8:7 - For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
Proverbs 8:8 - All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
Proverbs 8:9 - They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

But we must seek wisdom diligently:

Proverbs 2:3 - Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
Proverbs 2:4 - If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
Proverbs 2:5 - Then shalt thou understand the fear of YAHWEH, and find the knowledge of Elohim.


Proverbs 2:6 - For YAHWEH giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
Proverbs 2:7 - He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.
Proverbs 2:8 - He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.
Proverbs 2:9 - Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.
Proverbs 2:10 - When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
Proverbs 2:11 - Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
Proverbs 2:12 - To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
Proverbs 2:13 - Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
Proverbs 2:14 - Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;

And if we find wisdom, beware!

Proverbs 3:7 - Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear YAHWEH, and depart from evil.
Isaiah 5:21 - Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

There is more hope for a fool than for a man who is wise in his own conceit!

In the Scriptures, we find the words of Yahweh, who is the source of true wisdom:

2Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of YAHWEH, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Timothy 3:17 - That the man of YAHWEH may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

In context, Timothy knew the scriptures from the time he was a child

See the preceding verse:

2Timothy 3:15 - And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Yahushua ha Mashiach.

They are able to make us wise unto salvation!

What scriptures did Timothy use?

Was he reading Matthew - Revelation?

Certainly not, for the New testament had yet to be written

But He was reading from the Torah/Law and Prophets

And they make us wise unto salvation! The Torah IS our wisdom:

Deuteronomy 4:5 - Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as YAHWEH my Elohim commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
Deuteronomy 4:6 - Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

Is the Torah your wisdom?

Psalms 119:103 - How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
Psalms 119:104 - Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
Proverbs 2:6 - For YAHWEH giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Is the Torah your wisdom? We are told today that only part of Yahweh's words are wisdom. But Yahweh says that ALL His words are wisdom!

Psalms 19:7 - The law of YAHWEH is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of YAHWEH is sure, making wise the simple.
Psalms 119:98 - Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.
Psalms 119:99 - I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.
Psalms 119:100 - I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.
John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

In the Torah, wisdom cries out. But who will heed the wisdom?

Who will seek the understanding given?

We must seek the wisdom, brethren

Some say that you can't bring together the so-called "old" and "new" testaments as one doctrine, Yahushua said:

Matthew 13:52 - Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

Scribes are teachers of the law. Let's bring forth things old and new. Whether old or new, all of Yahweh's word is true and all of Yahweh's word is wisdom forever and ever!

Matthew 5:18 - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Heaven and earth has yet to pass away

Matthew 5:19 - Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Yet too many have forgotten the ancient paths:

Jeremiah 6:16 - Thus saith YAHWEH, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

Therefore, beware of any who profess wisdom, but reject portions of wisdom in the word of Yahweh

Jeremiah 8:9 - The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of YAHWEH; and what wisdom is in them?

Let's remember the warning of Isaiah:

Isaiah 8:20 - To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

And consider the example given in the book of Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 9:12 - Who is the wise man, that may understand this? and who is he to whom the mouth of YAHWEH hath spoken, that he may declare it, for what the land perisheth and is burned up like a wilderness, that none passeth through?
Jeremiah 9:13 - And YAHWEH saith, Because they have forsaken my law which I set before them, and have not obeyed my voice, neither walked therein;

Forsake not HIs law, be a wise man who may understand!

A truly wise man (Solomon) wrote:

Ecclesiastes 3:14 - I know that, whatsoever Elohim doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and Elohim doeth it, that men should fear before him.

Indeed, His law was given so that we would fear Him. The kings of Israel were commanded to write a copy of the torah to keep with them:

Deuteronomy 17:18 - And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites:
Deuteronomy 17:19 - And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear YAHWEH his Elohim, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them:

What do we do once we find wisdom?

Once we find wisdom, we must hear and do it.

James 1:22 - But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
James 1:23 - For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
James 1:24 - for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
James 1:25 - But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

Do we want more wisdom and truth? Continue in His word:

John 8:31 - Then said Yahushua to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
John 8:32 - And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Proverbs 4:18 - But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

If we do not obey the wisdom and truth given to us, of what use is it to us? It would only burden us greater. Many are weighted down for this reason

Psalms 50:16 - But unto the wicked Elohim saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?
Psalms 50:17 - Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee.


Matthew 7:19 - Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Matthew 7:20 - Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Rabbi, Rabbi, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:22 - Many will say to me in that day, Rabbi, Rabbi, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 - And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Miracles will mean nothing on judgment day.

Will we obey wisdom, Yahushua wants to know

Matthew 7:24 - Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Matthew 7:25 - And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Matthew 7:26 - And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Matthew 7:27 - And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Let's be the wise man!

Let's not only seek the wisdom that is from above, let's walk in the light that is given.

Proverbs 6:23 - For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
Proverbs 4:18 - But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

Let's not only pray for wisdom. Let's ask for the strength from Yahweh to obey that wisdom. For that is true wisdom!

Proverbs 24:1 - Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.
Proverbs 24:2 - For their heart studieth destruction, and their lips talk of mischief.
Proverbs 24:3 - Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established:
Proverbs 24:4 - And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.
Proverbs 24:5 - A wise man is strong; yea, a man of knowledge increaseth strength.

A wise man has strength

Proverbs 24:6 - For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellers there is safety.

Let's wage the war, let's overcome!

But remember

One day, all will bow the knee to Yahweh, saying:

Isaiah 45:23 - I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isaiah 45:24 - Surely, shall one say, in YAHWEH have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.

Only in Him can we have righteousness and only in Him can we have strength. He is the source of wisdom, righteousness and strength

Therefore, let's hear the conclusion then, my brothers:

Ecclesiastes 12:12 - And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 - Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear Elohim, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For Elohim shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. .

May we be found so doing, all the days of our lives.

Colossians 3:16 - Let the word of the Messiah dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with favor in your hearts to the Master.
Colossians 3:17 - And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Master Yahushua, giving thanks to YAHWEH the Father by him.

And with that, I will close. May Yahweh bless you and may He have mercy on us all!


BrBob - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================
Jozef_Lydia - HALLELUYAH H A L L E L U Y A H John 8:32 - And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. FREE..... OF THE GRIP OF THIS WORLD through His wisdom ! HALLELUYAH ~~ HALLELUYAH ~~ PRAISE YAHWEH
WAYne - HalleluYah!!
Dan_95670 - Hallelu-YAH!!
downlo - HalleluYAH!!
VictoryYAH - HalleluYAH! \o/
YAHni - HalleluYAHHHHHHHH!!!
mariner - Hallel - YAH!
bpenwell - HalleluYah
Kepha - HalleluYah
witness_2 - Mt.24:13
bpenwell - HalleluYah
matt - halleluYAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rachel - thank you gather Yahweh.fpr the gift of wisdom,and of understanding
BroMac - HalleluYah
bpenwell - HalleluYah
BrBill - Hallelu Yahweh
Rachel - for Yahweh the father is kind and loving toward his chosen.
matt - PRAISE YAHWEH!!!!!!!!!!
Rachel - praise him forever.
matt - indeed
Jozef_Lydia - aN eVER AND EVER
ssurell - Praise YHWH for Shabbat Shalom
Rosalinda - HalleluYah
matt - praise yahweh for each other
Rachel - and in the time to come the thousand year more perfect praise
ssurell - Have I missed the day for fasting?
DBENT777 - Praise YHWH for all has done for us in spite of us
YAHni - PraiseYAH and blessed be Yahshuah Ha Mashiach
Jozef_Lydia - yes, our short lifespan to date is only kindergarten time.... the real wisdom comes after a few centuries :)
Michael - Thank you EliYah......
EliYah - Praise Yahweh
Dan_95670 - yom kippur is ywet to come this year
ssurell - This next week right?
EliYah - Yom Kippur is in the fall
Dan_95670 - no not for a few months yet
Dan_95670 - are you thinking of the fast for the destruction of the temple?
EliYah - In the scriptures, it refers to the 7th month of Yahweh's year which begins in the spring
Jozef_Lydia - Yom Kippur [ day of atonement] is on 16 September
ssurell - I'm confused
Dan_95670 - thats a tradition not a commanded fast
matt - it can be a tuffy but well worth the effort
YAHni - Shabbat shalom Dan
Jozef_Lydia - the fast of Av is on 17th of July
Dan_95670 - Shalom YAHni
ssurell - The one for the destruction of the temple being of tradition.
Dan_95670 - yes

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