06/15/2002 Sabbath Meeting Transcript


"To Whom Shall We Go?"


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BrTom - Almighty Father Yahweh, we come before you in the name of Yahushua.
BrTom - Please forgive our sins and our uncleanness and hear our prayer.
BrTom - Father we ask your blessing on all who 'attend' this service.
BrTom - Give each one something needful for him/her
BrTom - Teach us to be more like you and like Yahushua.
BrTom - Teach us to love.
BrTom - Father we wish you Good Sabbath!
BrTom - We look forward to spending the Sabbath with you and with your children.
BrTom - Please bless those who have nonearby fellowship.
BrTom - Bless the children in the congregations too.
BrTom - It can be hard to be a child or a teen.
BrTom - Thank you Father Yahweh, for all the many blessings we receive from you.
BrTom - We thank you and praise you and wait to hear your word.
BrTom - In Yahshua's name we pray.
BrTom - HalleluYAH !!

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

This Sabbath, I would like to ponder the question..

"To whom shall we go?"

Yahushua said:

John 6:53 - Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 6:54 - Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:55 - For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

John 6:56 - He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

John 6:57 - As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

John 6:58 - This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

John 6:59 - These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

John 6:60 - Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

John 6:61 - When Yahushua knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

John 6:62 - What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 6:64 - But there are some of you that believe not. For Yahushua knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 - And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

John 6:66 - From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

John 6:67 - Then said Yahushua unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

When we see a 'hard saying' in His word, it isn't the source that we ought to question but we should always ask "What is its meaning as Yahweh intended?"

Because many didn't seek to understand, many didn't believe

And those who were his disciples...walked away from Him

Except the 12

Who believed in the word of Yahweh

And knew that Yahshua had the words of eternal life..as He had said

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

This is food indeed

Consider Kepha's words:

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

"To whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life"

Consider in our own lives

Is Yahweh enough?

Do we need more?

Are we seeking other things to fulfill us?

Though we understand not all His ways, do we fail to ever seek His ways?

Psalms 17:14 - From men which are thy hand, O YAHWEH, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.

Psalms 17:15 - As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

When Yahweh is truly in us, there is no want for things of this world.

1John 2:15 - Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1John 2:16 - For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world.

1John 2:17 - And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of YAHWEH abides forever.

In Yahweh, the void is filled.

Many try to fill the void with money, their spouse, drugs, wine, women, song and acceptance by men. But none of these things will fill it.

Only Yahweh is eternal and only He is big enough to fill the void

When He is fully in us, we have no desire to lust after the pleasures of the flesh. We seek fully His righteousness

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of YAHWEH, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Matthew 5:6 - Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Philippians 3:7 - But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for the Messiah.

Philippians 3:8 - Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of the Messiah Yahushua my Master: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win the Messiah,

There simply is nothing to compare to Yahweh.

Psalms 89:6 - For who in the heaven can be compared unto YAHWEH? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto YAHWEH?

Therefore, even in the midst of a long, tough day at work or wherever we are...think back to these scriptures and realize that all these things are temporary and that in the end their importance in comparison to Yahweh is nothing.

Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Journey back into reality...where the troubles of this world are nothing...only a passing moment

The troubles will come

But in the troubles..to whom shall we go?

Psalms 73:24 - Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.

Psalms 73:25 - Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.

Psalms 73:26 - My flesh and my heart faileth: but Elohim is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.

This is what all of us need to continually learn

We often by our human reasoning try to resolve something when One mightier than we has all the answers.

In seeking wisdom and truth, to whom shall we go?

James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of YAHWEH, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.

So when we ask Yahweh for wisdom in faith, He will give it. This is a promise! He is the source of wisdom and the source of truth.

Today, we live in an age of opportunity

An opportunity to gain understanding of Yahweh through His word

We can search the scriptures with a few simple keystrokes

His word is easy to acquire, found in abundance

So my brethren, now is the time to seek and be given wisdom and fed by Spiritual food.

For I do believe, the night cometh when no man can

When persecution will dominate our lives

Therefore, let's take hold!

Lest we be found wasting our time in things that profit not

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Lest we be found wasting our time in things that profit not

For time spent in things that are not eternal is wasted time

The world seeks their own, but we must seek Yahweh in all things.

Philippians 2:21 - For all seek their own, not the things which are Yahushua the Messiah's.

When we need salvation, to whom shall we go?

Will we try to make it by ourselves?

To be obedient by our own power and strength?

Indeed nearly every trial I have endured has taught me not to rely on myself but to give it ALL to Him.

This is what He loves to do, what an awesome Elohim !

We all have sinned, then to whom shall we go?

We can go to the King

Jeremiah 23:5 - Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

Jeremiah 23:6 - In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Yahweh can be our righteousness through Yahushua the Messiah if we repent and and trust in Him

He has made a way for us to be forgiven for our sins.

So let's consider the things that Yahweh has done!

Among many things, Yahweh is the source of eternal life, a very present help in trouble and the source of all wisdom and truth.

From whom do we seek wisdom and truth? From whom do we seek life?

Man? Christianity? Self-help books?

Yahweh!

We must remove all obstacles from our lives

The obstacle to truth is so often MAN.

When a truth is shared, the first question often asked is "What about so and so..they never did that, are they lost?"

Such a person often will never accept the truth, based on the fact that these others whom they love..have not. This is placing man before Yahweh.

But our relationship with Yahweh is personal. We should question things in light of scripture rather than in light of what others do.

It's us.. and Yahweh

Yahweh desires that we seek Him with a whole heart

Jeremiah 29:13 - And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Therefore, in all things..to whom shall we go?

Joshua 24:15 - And if it seem evil unto you to serve YAHWEH, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the elohim which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the elohim of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve YAHWEH.

Is this a once in a lifetime decision?

Not so, it is a daily decision. Everyday we choose who we will serve...whether we will sin or not.

Whether we will serve Yahweh or serve ourselves in sin .

Matthew 24:12 - And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 - But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

This world, what does if have to offer us?

Pleasure for a time?

Answers for a time?

These things we must not seek. They are not eternal!!

But what Yahweh gives, He gives for eternity

His law, His commandments, His promises, His salvation...yes, all these things He is given us...Forever!

Psalms 119:160 - Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Some might say the law was not perfect

They do not understand that the word in Hebrew "Torah" (translated law) means "instruction, teaching"

Would Yahweh teach us an imperfect way to walk?

Brethren, it is man that is imperfect.. not His teaching!

Are His commandments multiple choice?

Psalms 19:7 - The law of YAHWEH is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of YAHWEH is sure, making wise the simple.

Psalms 19:8 - The statutes of YAHWEH are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of YAHWEH is pure, enlightening the eyes.

Psalms 19:9 - The fear of YAHWEH is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of YAHWEH are true and righteous altogether.

Psalms 19:10 - More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

Psalms 19:11 - Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Those among Yahushua said it was a hard saying

"who can know it?", therefore they did not believe

Because they did not understand, nor seek to

Must we also understand everything before we will believe?

Or will we believe, and then be given understanding?

Will we hold onto the hand that does not change?

Who do we trust for salvation?

Will it be in the traditions that we have inherited?

Will it be in the commandments and doctrines of men that do not profit??

Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.

It's all vain

Any worship toward Him that He has not ordained is vain.

Christmas, Easter, Sunday sabbaths, false names, false baptisms, false traditions that we have assumed to be right in the past have deceived us :(

Oh yes, we say that we have departed from errors in tradition... but have we?

We associate certain things in scripture a certain way because it is the way that others around us have done it

Indeed, I learn this lesson often. We must beware of the false prophets brethren!! Beware of false traditions!!

There is commercial that says "Your in good hands with (an insurance company)"

Beware lest we be found in the hands of the wolf!

Or the hands of Babylon the great!

There is no better place than in Yahweh's hands..Seeking His will.

Let's hear the voice of the Shepherd

calling for His sheep

John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 - My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Oh to be in that hand forever!

A place of rest.

A place of peace..security and light and truth and life

Tonight I want to invite anyone who is 'sitting on the fence' between serving Yahweh and not serving Him to consider these words.

And tonight I want to invite anyone who is 'sitting on the fence' between serving Yahweh with truth or doctrines of men to consider these words

Isaiah 55:6 - Seek ye YAHWEH while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

Isaiah 55:7 - Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto YAHWEH, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our Elohim, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isaiah 55:8 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith YAHWEH.

Isaiah 55:9 - For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Isaiah 55:10 - For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

Isaiah 55:11 - So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Yahushua will be here soon and we MUST seek Yahweh while He may be found

His Word.. the words of eternal life

Ecclesiastes 12:1 - Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

Ecclesiastes 12:2 - While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain:

Ecclesiastes 12:3 - In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened,

Ecclesiastes 12:4 - And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low;

Ecclesiastes 12:5 - Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:

Ecclesiastes 12:6 - Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto Elohim who gave it.

Ecclesiastes 12:8 - Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

All is vanity

Seek Yahweh

Of wisdom, Yahweh has said:

Proverbs 8:17 - I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

Let's seek Him early

Let's seek Yahweh in ALL things.

To whom shall we go?

Tonight I ask, "To whom will you go?"

Go to life

Go to truth !

Go to Yahweh !

in ALL things

May Yahweh bless you and may He have mercy on us all!

End


Dan_95670 - Hallelu-YAH!!
BrTom - HalleluYAH !!
kelev - yeah
downlo - HalleluYAH!!
mariner - that was coo
Thor - Praise Yahweh!!
WAYne_Julie - HalleluYah!!
mariner - l
VictoryYAH - HalleluYAH! \o/\o/\o/
BrTom - Words of life!
pjr - praise Yahweh
BrBill - HalleluYah
YAHni1 - HalleluYah
downlo - +psa 42 1
`Watchman - Psalms 42:1 - As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O Elohim.
Tiffinie - HalleluYah!
mariner - good message eliyah
believer - Praise YHWH
Daniel - Praise Yahweh
WAYne_Julie - Shabbat shalom RuthYah :)
Kefa - HalleluYah!!!!!! praise Yahweh for those words truth!!!!!!!!!
EliYah - Glory to Yahweh
downlo - +psa 119 89 90
`Watchman - Psalms 119:89 - For ever, O YAHWEH, thy word is settled in heaven.
`Watchman - Psalms 119:90 - Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth.
RuthYah - Shabbatt shalom WAYne and Julie
RuthYah - Shabbatt Shalom Everyone
mariner - shabbatt shamom ruthyah
star - praise you Yahushua..see my heart and help me to seek you..thank you for your Word....HalleluYah!
RuthYah - Shabbatt Shalom EliYah
VictoryYAH - Shabbat Shalom RuthYah :-)
Kefa - +Joel 2:12-14
Rachel - Wonderful sermon EliYah,HalleluYAH
downlo - Shabbat shalom RuthYah :)
RuthYah - Shabbatt Shalom VictoryYAH
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom RuthYah :)
BrTom - +john 6 53
`Watchman - John 6:53 - Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Kefa - Shabbat Shalom RuthYah
mariner - to bad i missed the torah reading.
BrTom - Eliyah would you like to tell us how they should have understood this saying?
BrTom - +john 6 53
`Watchman - John 6:53 - Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
WAYne_Julie - +1joh 5 13 14
`Watchman - 1John 5:13 - These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of YAHWEH, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of YAHWEH.
`Watchman - 1John 5:14 - Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.
EliYah - Partake of His word and His redemption
keith - Thank you for the message EliYah
Rachel - sHABBAT SHALOM RuthYah
EliYah - Symbolized in his body and blood
keith - His Word is Truth
keith - above all things
keith - Pure and Trustworthy
Rachel - yes thank u EliYAH
WAYne_Julie - would this also be refering to the memorial meal also
EliYah - Thank Yahweh, HalleluYah
keith - I want to publicly praise YAHWEH for blessing my wife and I with another Son
EliYah - Yes, Pesach
Rachel - pRAISE YOU yahweh
keith - SamuEL is 2 weeks and 1 day old
EliYah - HalleluYah, keith :)
Thor - halleluYahu!!
keith - He was born at home
star - :-*) ...holy kiss to keith's new Son
downlo - BrTom,thanks for the sabbath messages :)
WAYne_Julie - HalleluYah!
connie - Praise Yahweh forever HalleluYah for He is good and greatly to be praised and worshipped forever
BrTom - Hmmmm. It surely must have been symbolic. But why did he phrase it in the way that would perhaps be the very HARDEST for them to accept?
EliYah - Blessings to a new child of Yahweh
keith - and Yahweh blessed us with a beautiful birth
Rachel - THATS WONDERFUL.
keith - Thank you Father Yahweh
EliYah - He was talking to those who ate bread and were filled.
EliYah - When he fed the multitude
connie - Blessed is he who comes in the name of Yahweh
Rachel - Yahweh is gracious.
EliYah - He eluded them for a while, then they caught up to him and asked him to perform a sign (I guess they were hungry)
Rachel - Yahweh is love.
connie - I love to hear His children praising His name it is sweet music to my ears and a soothing melody to my heart
EliYah - That was the context of the whole thing.. they were seeking earthly things, He was pointing them to heavenly things
WAYne_Julie - +psa 113 1 3
`Watchman - Psalms 113:1 - Praise ye YAHWEH. Praise, O ye servants of YAHWEH, praise the name of YAHWEH.
`Watchman - Psalms 113:2 - Blessed be the name of YAHWEH from this time forth and for evermore.
`Watchman - Psalms 113:3 - From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same YAHWEH's name is to be praised.
Rachel - Yahweh is just
BrTom - Certainly true.
star - spiritual things..the world can never understand
Kefa - EliYah I was baptized years ago in a christian church but have not been baptized using the true name, I have no one here to do it, what do I do.
Rachel - Yahweh is merciful
WAYne_Julie - +1cor 2 12 13
`Watchman - 1Corinthians 2:12 - Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of Elohim; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of YAHWEH.
`Watchman - 1Corinthians 2:13 - Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Spirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
connie - and as long as we have breathe we shall praise His holy name
EliYah - I wish I knew someone in that area, Kefa
BrTom - Come over here Kefa. We'll get it done.
BrTom - :)
EliYah - Yea :)
Kefa - good idea
Rachel - where are u Br Tom?
RuthYah SOUND]
BrTom - Indiana
connie - where are you all from
BrTom - Fort Wayne
Rachel - oh thats a log way from me.
Rachel - long
WAYne_Julie - south australia
EliYah - Ohio or Missouri here
downlo - Ga.
messianic - pa
Kefa - There is Jozef in Sydney
VictoryYAH - Upstate New York here :-)
connie - I live in the Lake of the Ozarks Missouri
Rachel - Near ALBANY N,Y.
Kefa - or Wayne
BrTom - Closer...
vgmc - Lansing, MI
Dan_95670 - +acts 10 44
`Watchman - Acts 10:44 - While Kepha yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them which heard the word.
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom torahworm :)
connie - shabbat shalom torahworm love that name
keith - New England here
star - Oregon
VictoryYAH - You live near Albany New York, Rachel?
Dan_95670 - +acts 10 45 47
`Watchman - Acts 10:45 - And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Kepha, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.
`Watchman - Acts 10:46 - For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify YAHWEH. Then answered Kepha,
`Watchman - Acts 10:47 - Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?
downlo - Shabbat shalom torahworm :)
BroMac - Brighton MO
EliYah - I'm near Springfield, mo
torahworm - Shabbat shalom eliyah!!
connie - not too far from us EliYah
Rachel - EliYah did u ever know Elder Jacob O Meyer?
BroMac - I'm 14 miles north of Springfield
EliYah - Great to see you brother, long time no see
EliYah - I've never met him
connie - that should be even closer to us BroMac
Rachel - yes that is Albany,n.y. do u know it?
RuthYah SOUND]
connie - but not sure where Brighton is
EliYah - Rachel, you are near Albany, NY? :)
BroMac - Highway 13 north of Springfield.
torahworm - true, I really miss everybody
BrTom - We miss you too.
vgmc - There is a 3-hour special on the Middle East currently running on DSC
connie - toda BroMac
EliYah - I was in Albany, NY last summer
WAYne_Julie - it interests me what did the desert dwellers do when wanting to be baptised and had not enough water for full admersion, or the ones on the net today who hear the good news and cannot afford to travel to be baptised
Daniel - i know albany new york
Daniel - amd upstate new york
EliYah - We pray for Yahweh to make a way
RuthYah SOUND]
vgmc - ...and Bible specials air tonight on TLC...these will repeat starting at midnight E and run until 2AM
Thor - shalom tewey :-) long time
Daniel - i need to be baptized to
downlo - Shabbat shalom tewey :)
connie - when there seems to be no way
tewey - shalom
connie - shabbat shalom tewey
Daniel - i live in the boonies also :)
BrTom - Yahweh understands the difficulties and looks on the heart.
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom tewey :)
torahworm - Thanks brother tom
tewey - Shalom
torahworm - I know elder Meyer
connie - amein BrTom
RuthYah SOUND]
VictoryYAH - Shabbat Shalom tewey
Daniel - shabbat shalom everyone wh o came in
vgmc - DSC will repeat the Middle East special starting at 11PM and running until about 2AM (EDT)
BrTom - I know a couple of them. :)
connie - shabbat shalom Boaz
tewey - Shalom Victory

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