Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 06/02/00


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Berean - Our Father, AllMighty Yahweh \o/
Berean - ThankYou for the blessing of Shabbat, and bringing us together to study Your word
Berean - ThankYou Father, for the rest and refreshment You give us this day
Berean - We offer praise and thanks to You for thew blessings and protection You have given us this past week.
Berean - Father, we ask for your blessing on this gathering, and we ask Father, that You guide us and direct us in Your teaching.
Berean - Father, we ask for cleansing, that you create in us a clean heart, and we ask that You help and guide us to walk pleasing in Your sight.
Berean - Above all, we ask that Your will be done in our lives.
Berean - We ask all, in the name of Your Son, Yahshua
Berean - HalleluYah!

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

Tonite I would like to speak on a subject that I shared about a year ago. It has continued to hold my interest and I hope you find it interesting also :)

There are some things in Yahweh's word that he says not to do..but then it seems there are some things that are total outright abominations..

While we do not want to sin...we want to be particularly certain that we do not commit any abominations to Yahweh

The following are some scriptures that show Yahweh's teaching on "what is an abomination"

First, we see that to eat unclean animals is an abomination to him

Leviticus 11:10 - And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

Leviticus 11:11 - They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

Leviticus 11:12 - Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

This word that is translated abomination...

This word that is translated abomination... 08263 sheqets {sheh'-kets} from 08262; TWOT - 2459a,2459b; n m AV - abomination 9, abominable 2; 11 1) detestable thing or idol, an unclean thing, an abomination, detestation

Leviticus 11:20 - All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

Leviticus 11:41 - And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.

Leviticus 11:42 - Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.

Now the following scriptures are from a different Hebrew word

08441 tow`ebah {to-ay-baw'} or to`ebah {to-ay-baw'} act part of 08581; TWOT - 2530a; n f AV - abomination 113, abominable thing 2, abominable 2; 117

1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable

1a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)

1b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)

Here are the scriptures that use this word for "abomination"

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Looks like the USA to me.. (babylon)?

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 18:23 - Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

Leviticus 18:24 - Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

Leviticus 18:25 - And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

Leviticus 18:26 - Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

Leviticus 18:27 - (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)

Often, when Yahweh sees abominations that are defiling the land..

He gets rid of the people in that land

Is the USA next?

Something to ponder!

Here is a scripture showing why the observance of Christmas is an abomination:

Deuteronomy 12:29 - When YAHWEH thy Elohim shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;

Deuteronomy 12:30 - Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their elohim, saying, How did these nations serve their elohim? even so will I do likewise.

Deuteronomy 12:31 - Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim: for every abomination to YAHWEH, which he hateth, have they done unto their elohim; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their elohim.

So "Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim"

We should not worship Yahweh in the same way that another nation worshiped their deities

We should worship Him in the way that He desires

Don't worship Yahweh with a pagan tradition! Don't take a pagan custom and apply it to the worship of Yahweh!

Deuteronomy 12:32 - What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

So truly, we should not add to His word

as modern religion has done

Deuteronomy 17:2 - If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which YAHWEH thy Elohim giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of YAHWEH thy Elohim, in transgressing his covenant,

Deuteronomy 17:3 - And hath gone and served other elohim, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

Deuteronomy 17:4 - And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

Any kind of idolatry is an abomination to Him

Deuteronomy 17:5 - Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Beware lest we also have an idol hidden in our hearts

Anytime we put our will or mans will above Yahweh's will, we commit self idolatry

For we are setting ourselves up as elohim..the very heart of Satan's sin

Deuteronomy 18:9 - When thou art come into the land which YAHWEH thy Elohim giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

Deuteronomy 18:10 - There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

Deuteronomy 18:11 - Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

Deuteronomy 18:12 - For all that do these things are an abomination unto YAHWEH: and because of these abominations YAHWEH thy Elohim doth drive them out from before thee.

Notice that Saul the King died soon after trying to consult Samuel thru a medium..

Deuteronomy 22:5 - The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto YAHWEH thy Elohim.

Is this not what we see today?

more abominations..

Deuteronomy 23:18 - Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of YAHWEH thy Elohim for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto YAHWEH thy Elohim.

Yahweh doesn't want money acquired thru sin in His tithe is how I interpret this.. more

abominations..

Deuteronomy 24:1 - When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.

Deuteronomy 24:2 - And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.

Deuteronomy 24:3 - And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;

Deuteronomy 24:4 - Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YAHWEH: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which YAHWEH thy Elohim giveth thee for an inheritance.

So returning to the original husband would be an abomination

more abominations..

Deuteronomy 25:15 - But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the land which YAHWEH thy Elohim giveth thee.

Proverbs 11:1 - A false balance is abomination to YAHWEH: but a just weight is his delight.

So cheating others out of money is an abomination...(Especially if that person is poor!) The scams we see today...nothing new under the sun

Proverbs 11:20 - They that are of a froward heart are abomination to YAHWEH: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.

froward/perverse or unruly

Now here is an interesting verse:

Proverbs 6:16 - These six things doth YAHWEH hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

Proverbs 6:17 - A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Proverbs 6:18 - An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Proverbs 6:19 - A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

It is written that a big reason Yahweh kicked Judah out of the land was because they had shed innocent blood

2Kings 24:3 - Surely at the commandment of YAHWEH came this upon Judah, to remove them out of his sight, for the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he did;

2Kings 24:4 - And also for the innocent blood that he shed: for he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood; which YAHWEH would not pardon.

Thru manassah who offered children in the fire to molech.

In this nation...TRULY the spirit of Molech is in full force with Abortions

Every year in the USA alone, well over 1 million babies are murdered by their own mother

Proverbs 12:22 - Lying lips are abomination to YAHWEH: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Proverbs 8:6 - Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.

Proverbs 8:7 - For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

Here is an interesting verse

Proverbs 17:15 - He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to YAHWEH.

This reminds me of the lawyers who defend the ones they know are guilty

It also reminds me of those who condemn others because they don't believe the same way they do

Proverbs 21:26 - He coveteth greedily all the day long: but the righteous giveth and spareth not.

Proverbs 21:27 - The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?

What is the sacrifice of the wicked?

We read in scripture that Yahweh can not endure a sinner making a sacrifice unto Him..it is vain For instance..

Isaiah 1:11 - To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith YAHWEH: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isaiah 1:12 - When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Isaiah 1:13 - Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Why? Because they did these things while living a life of sin! What purpose is sacrifice? Is obedience not better than to sacrifice?

It's like one who sins all day long, then spending an evening in worship without even repenting

Or one who sins all week long, then goes to worship Yahweh on the Sabbath or on Sunday

It's an abomination

It's vain

As we read last week

1Samuel 15:22 - And Samuel said, Hath YAHWEH as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of YAHWEH? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

More abominations..

Isaiah 66:17 - They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith YAHWEH.

This scripture is actually speaking of a future time if you examine the context. Is hasn't taken place yet.. but it will!

I wouldn't want to be the one eating the abominable swine

More abominations..

Exodus 8:5 - And YAHWEH spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thine hand with thy rod over the streams, over the rivers, and over the ponds, and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt.

wrong book :)

Ezekiel 8:5 - Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.

Ezekiel 8:6 - He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

Ezekiel 8:7 - And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

Ezekiel 8:8 - Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

Ezekiel 8:9 - And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

Ezekiel 8:10 - So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.

Ezekiel 8:11 - And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.

I've seen houses with idols like this

Ezekiel 8:12 - Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, YAHWEH seeth us not; YAHWEH hath forsaken the earth.

What fools they were! They thought Yahweh couldn't see them behind the hole in the wall.

We ought to be fools also if we do not realize that every work we do is not written down

Ezekiel 12:14 - And I will scatter toward every wind all that are about him to help him, and all his bands; and I will draw out the sword after them.

Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For Elohim shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. .

Continuing in Ezekiel

Ezekiel 8:13 - He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

Greater abominations?

Yes, some say that all sin is equal.. that no sin is worse than another.. but that is not so according to Yahweh

Ezekiel 8:14 - Then he brought me to the door of the gate of YAHWEH's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

There is a month that the Jews named Tammuz in Babylon. Tammuz is the false Messiah

Imagine.. all this taking place in Yahweh's house

Ezekiel 8:15 - Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

Ezekiel 8:16 - And he brought me into the inner court of YAHWEH's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of YAHWEH, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of YAHWEH, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

There is alot of sun worship in modern day religion, even including modern day Christianity..these things they inherited from the traditions of the 'church fathers'.

They even admit it on the signs outside the churches, saying "Sun Worship 11am"

Is that Ironic or what?

We should praise Yahweh that He has had mercy on us and revealed the light

Ezekiel 8:17 - Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

other abominations..

Ezekiel 43:8 - In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in mine anger.

Beware of defiling Yahweh's great name by committing abominations! When people see the abominations, they will associate Yahweh's name with your actions

We must walk in righteousness and sincerely repent if we do fail

We must seek Yahweh's will diligently

We know that His will for us is written in Scripture

But beware lest we turn our ear away..

Proverbs 28:9 - He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Today we are told to turn our ear away from the law

for in the minds of millions, it's "old" and abolished

But Yahweh says

Jeremiah 6:16 - Thus saith YAHWEH, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

Who will walk therein?

Who will be like the psalmist in these verses:

Psalms 119:131 - I opened my mouth, and panted: for I longed for thy commandments.

Psalms 119:132 - Look thou upon me, and be merciful unto me, as thou usest to do unto those that love thy name.

Psalms 119:133 - Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me.

Psalms 119:134 - Deliver me from the oppression of man: so will I keep thy precepts.

Psalms 119:135 - Make thy face to shine upon thy servant; and teach me thy statutes.

Psalms 119:136 - Rivers of waters run down mine eyes, because they keep not thy law.

Concerning the Kindgom of Yahweh:

Revelations 21:27 - But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

May we all seek to enter in..

And with that, I will close... May Yahweh bless you all :)

End


Jay_Emm - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah !!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
WAYne - Praise YHWH Through Yahshua The Messiah \o/\o/\o/
lydia_joz - H.A.L.L.E.L.U.Y.A.H. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~. PRAISE YAHWEH ~.~.~.~.~.~.~. \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
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Br_jason - HalleluYah\o/\o/\o/
Ruth - Praise YHWH Through Yahshua Messiah
Sparrow - Praise Yahweh!!11
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Ruth - \o/\o/\o/ Praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
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BrTom - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
Sparrow - Have mercy on us
Kara - {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Yahweh}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YAHWEH!!
WAYne - Psalms 20:7 - Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of YHWH our Elohim.
channah - praise YHWH
oldrobot - May Yahweh's blessing be upon those that proclaim his truth \o/ \o/ \o/ HalleluYah!!!
Kefa - Kefa Life is in His hands
Joy - Praise Yahweh! Speaking of abominations....a person we are witnessing to has asked if gambling in general and playing the Lottery is sin. Are there any scriptures pertaining to such activity?
lostONE1 - excellent!!!
DelaYah - Praise YHWH!!!!!
Sparrow - Glory and Honor to Him
Br_jason - Praise His Great and Glorious name
Oscar - ¡Para siempre es la misericordia de Yahweh!
Sparrow - Merciful Father
lydia_joz - I would like to introduce a old friend and brother in Yahweh and his wife who joined us for the first time from New Zealand K E F A
Donnee - Shalom K E F A
channah - so if we get money from gambling we should not give for tithes then right
EliYah - Seems that lottery/gambling is the result of covetousness and trying to get something for nothing
Jay_Emm - Welcome, Kefa.
Dorota - gracias por este mensaje!
Moonwatch - EliYah YOU HAVE DONE GOOD! PRAISE YAHWEH!!!
Br_jason - Shalom Kefa
Sparrow - Welcome!
Berean - Shabbat Shalom Kefa
Joy - Shalom KEFA
BrTom - The lottery is a tax on those who are poor in math.
WAYne - F=Shalom KEFA :)
lostONE1 - shalom KEFA
Kefa - Shalom to you all !
Dorota - HalleluYAH!
Angel - Shalom everyone!
Oscar - Shalom Kefa
Dorota - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================
channah - what do you meAN BY MIXED MARRIAGES>?
Sparrow - Shalom!
WAYne - Shalom Angel:)
Dorota - Shalom, Oscar, Habla Ud. Espanol?
Angel - Hola Oscar!
Oscar - ¿De dónde eres Dorota?
Br_jason - Shalom Angel:)
WAYne - Shalom Sparrow:)
EliYah - Great one, BrTom :)
Dorota - Soy de Canada
Oscar - Hoila Angel
Dorota - y usted?
Sparrow - Thank you. Shalom
Oscar - De la Ciudad de México
Angel - Shalom BrJason!
Dorota - yo visite Mexico una vece
Br_jason - Shalom Sister Angel
Dorota - cuantos anos tiene?
Joy - Poor in math?
EliYah - Who said anything about mixed marriages?
Oscar - 31 :)
Dorota - tengo 15 anos
EliYah - One who is poor in math wouldn't realize the odds of winning the lotter
EliYah - y
Sparrow - Thank you for this day. Thank you for this rest.
Dorota - en verdad, me llamo Daria. Mi mama se llama Dorota
Joy - You did Eliyah, in your sermon (mixed marriages)
channah - in the scriptures said an abominat
EliYah - Where
wrblest - any intrepeters here? I can't read spanish
channah - would that mean marriyng some who worships other gods
Angel - I think EliYah was referring to homosexuals?
Br_jason - Men with men
BrTom - That's UN-mixed
Joy - Hummm, .....is gambling a sin?
Angel - Dorota knows how to speak English :)
channah - I would think so
Br_jason - women /animals
Dorota - yup
Dorota - this is actually Daria
wrblest - that's definitly mixed
BrTom - Gambling is foolish and wrong. As someone said it is trying to get something for nothing.
oldrobot - That's the truth
Angel - In Yahshua Messiah there is not descrimination about color etc. we are all one in Him.
WAYne - the money one is gambling would be bettw=er given to the poor as i c it
wrblest - but he did put one scripture about mixed marriages. I thought it meant spiritually, What do you think EliYah?
Sparrow - Has anyone here ever left the Sabbath? And why?
BrTom - I don't think it is stealing unless you need the money for your family.
EliYah - What verse was it?
lydia_joz - Daria is a very cleaver girl;)
Dorota - HalleluYAH!
Dorota - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================
Miles_of_PA - Actually, gambling is GIVING SOMETHING TO GET NOTHING!
Joy - Right broTom. That is exactly what I told the person. But it doesn't seem to be enough because I could not come up with any scriptureMixed marriages
Angel - Hi Daria!
wrblest - I can tell you after you post the meeting
Dorota - Hi Angel
EliYah - okay
Dorota - Shalom EliYah
channah - I didnt think it meant color
lydia_joz - Sorry clever
Ruth - Shabbatt Shalom ylisha
Joy - Mixed marriages is what Yahweh told Solomon not to do because the women worshipped other gods
Miles_of_PA - Welcome to #1messiah ylisha
channah - but on a spirtual sense, as unbelievers
BrTom - I'm afraid gambling often becomes idolatry.
ylisha - shalom Ruth
ylisha - Shalom Miles
WAYne - yes i have witnessed that BrTom !
Angel - Yahweh approved the marriage of Moses to a black woman from Ethiopia because she believed in Yahweh.
EliYah - The wrong mix is believer/unbeliever
channah - where anyone take there rent money and use it to gamble si wrong
EliYah - That's what Yahweh doesn't want
BrTom - Yes
claudia - yes
EliYah - Ruth was a Moabite
wrblest - Yahweh stood up for Moshe when Miriam objected to His Wife
EliYah - Yet righteous
Joy - True again Bro Tom, because gambling can proliferate
BrTom - In particular believer and idolator.
Dorota - ((((((((((((((((((((( HUGS TO EVERYONE ))))))))))))))))))))
channah - gambling is gambling to me
Angel - HalleluYah Yahweh is the purest of all!
WAYne - ((((( Dorota )))))
claudia - Hi Dorota

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