05/30/2003 Sabbath Meeting Transcript


"To Whom Shall We Go?"


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Jozef_Lydia - Our Heavenly Father Abba YaHWeH, We praise and Glorify You, and acknowledge Your Holy set apart Name, as we gather together this Shabbat day again.
Jozef_Lydia - How we magnify You, the only 'self existing' Elohim of the heavens and the earth, and we lift up our hands to You, \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
Jozef_Lydia - As we magnify You, we also worship You, and we bow down to only You as we bend our knees to You through the name of Yahushua Your son and our appointed King and Saviour
Jozef_Lydia - Thank You for the past weeks experiences, for life, Your provisions, our daily food and Your protection, but above all Your Love upon us.
Jozef_Lydia - May we for ever experience Your ongoing and growing Love IN US, through understanding of Your Word, which will strengthen us for the days ahead.
Jozef_Lydia - Abba Father, to day we come again humbly in Your presence to commune with You and consume the double portion of heavenly Manna, our spiritual food.
Jozef_Lydia - We know that this is EVERY Word that has proceeded from Your Mouth and written down by Your servants the prophets and in Your Torah.
Jozef_Lydia - We humbly pray for your Holy-Spirit upon us, gathering here on the internet, and upon all your people where ever they might gather today sanctifying your Sabbath command.
Jozef_Lydia - Deliver us from any evil or untrue thought me might have within ourselves, or any grudge we might harbour against anyone, and above all, deliver us all from the evil outside, in the world.
Jozef_Lydia - Therefore we pray for Your Kingdom to be established here and in all the realms of existence, and evil to be bound and incarcerated as well as all its influence to be eradicated forever.
Jozef_Lydia - We petition this as always in the Name of Our advocate and High-Priest before Your, our King and Saviour Yahushua the Messiah.
Jozef_Lydia - So let it be, HalleluYAH \o/\o/\o/\o/

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!!

This Sabbath, I would like to ponder the question..

"To whom shall we go?"

Yahushua said:

John 6:53 - Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 6:54 - Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:55 - For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

John 6:56 - He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

John 6:57 - As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

John 6:58 - This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

John 6:59 - These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

John 6:60 - Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

John 6:61 - When Yahushua knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

John 6:62 - What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 6:64 - But there are some of you that believe not. For Yahushua knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:65 - And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

John 6:66 - From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

John 6:67 - Then said Yahushua unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

When we see a 'hard saying' in His word, it isn't the source that we ought to question but we should always ask "What is its meaning as Yahweh intended?"

Because many didn't seek to understand, many didn't believe

many walked away from him because they didn't care to understand

Thus, those who were his disciples...walked away from Him

We see similar things today

but the remnant, the disciples believed

They believed in the word of Yahweh

And rather than questioning it, they sought the understanding and found it

They knew that Yahshua had the words of eternal life..as He had said

John 6:69 - And we believe and are sure that thou art the Messiah, the Son of the living Elohim.

John 6:70 - Yahushua answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

This is food indeed

Is all of His word our food, or just a part?

Do we set aside the food that isn't so tasty to our flesh?

Do we say, "That's just the Old Testament?"

Do we say, "That's just Paul's writings?"

Or do we say, "Feed me with the fullness of Your Bread Abba Yahweh!?"

Consider Kepha's words:

John 6:68 - Then Simon Kepha answered him, Rabbi, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

"To whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life"

Consider in our own lives

If we believe in Messiah, do we believe that Yahweh being with us is sufficient/

?

Do we need more?

Are we seeking other things to fulfill the things only He can fulfill?

Though we understand not all His ways, do we fail to ever seek His ways?

Psalms 17:14 - From men which are thy hand, O YAHWEH, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.

Psalms 17:15 - As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

When Yahweh is truly in us, there is no want for things of this world.

1John 2:15 - Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1John 2:16 - For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world.

1John 2:17 - And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of YAHWEH abides forever.

In Yahweh, the void is filled.

The empty space is empty no more

Many try to fill the void with money, their spouse, drugs, wine, women, song and acceptance by men. But none of these things will fill it.

Only Yahweh is eternal and only He is big enough to fill the void

When He is fully in us, we have no desire to lust after the pleasures of the flesh. We seek fully His righteousness

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of YAHWEH, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Matthew 5:6 - Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Philippians 3:7 - But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for the Messiah.

Philippians 3:8 - Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of the Messiah Yahushua my Master: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win the Messiah,

There simply is nothing to compare to Yahweh.

Psalms 89:6 - For who in the heaven can be compared unto YAHWEH? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto YAHWEH?

Therefore, even in the midst of a long, tough day/week at work or wherever we are...think back to these scriptures and realize that all these things are temporary and that in the end their importance in comparison to Yahweh is nothing.

Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Journey back into reality...where the troubles of this world are nothing...only a passing moment

James 4:13 - Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit";

James 4:14 - whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.

The troubles will come

But in the troubles..to whom shall we go?

Psalms 73:24 - Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.

Psalms 73:25 - Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.

Psalms 73:26 - My flesh and my heart faileth: but Elohim is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.

This is what all of us need to continually learn

We often by our human reasoning try to resolve something when One mightier than we has all the answers.

In seeking wisdom and truth and direction, to whom shall we go?

James 1:5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of YAHWEH, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.

So when we ask Yahweh for wisdom in faith, He will give it. This is a promise! He is the source of wisdom and the source of truth

Today, we live in an age of opportunity

An opportunity to gain understanding of Yahweh through His word

We can search the scriptures with a few simple keystrokes

His word is easy to acquire, and found in abundance

So my brethren, now is the time to seek and be given wisdom and fed by Spiritual food.

Now is not the time to fill our minds with the world's garbage

now is the time to seek Yahweh

For I do believe, the night cometh when no man can

For I do believe, the night cometh when no man can open the scriptures except from what He hid in his heart during the times of plenty

We should be preparing ourselves

Preparing ourselves for when persecution will dominate our lives

Therefore, let's take hold!

Lest we be found wasting our time in things that profit not

For time spent in things that are not eternal is wasted time

The world seeks their own, but we must seek Yahweh in all things.

Philippians 2:12 - Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Philippians 2:21 - For all seek their own, not the things which are Yahushua the Messiah's.

When we need salvation, to whom shall we go?

Will we try to make it by ourselves?

To be obedient by our own power and strength?

Indeed nearly every trial I have endured has taught me not to rely on myself but to give it ALL to Him. To put Him first

This is what He loves to do, what an awesome Elohim !

We all have sinned, then to whom shall we go?

We can go to the King

Jeremiah 23:5 - Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

Jeremiah 23:6 - In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Yahweh can be our righteousness through Yahushua the Messiah if we repent and and trust in Him

He has made a way for us to be forgiven for our sins. It is the way Yahweh has chosen to save those who seek repentance

So let's consider the things that Yahweh has done!

Among many things, Yahweh is the source of eternal life, a very present help in trouble and the source of all wisdom and truth.

From whom do we seek wisdom and truth? From whom do we seek life?

Man alone? Christianity? Self-help books?

Yahweh!

We must remove all obstacles from our lives

The obstacle to truth is so often MAN.

When a truth is shared, the first question often asked is "What about so and so..they never did that, are they lost?"

Such a person often will never accept the truth, based on the fact that these others whom they love..have not. This is placing man before Yahweh.

But we should put no other elohim before Him

Our relationship with Yahweh is personal. We should question things in light of scripture rather than in light of what others do.

It's us.. and Yahweh

Yahweh desires that we seek Him with a whole heart

Jeremiah 29:13 - And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Therefore, in all things..to whom shall we go?

Joshua 24:25 - So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, and set them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem.

Is this a once in a lifetime decision?

Not so, it is a daily decision. Everyday we choose who we will serve...whether we will sin or not.

Whether we will serve Yahweh or serve ourselves in sin .

Matthew 24:12 - And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 - But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

This world, what does if have to offer us?

Pleasure for a time?

Answers for a time?

These things we must not seek. They are not eternal!!

But what Yahweh gives, He gives for eternity

His law, His commandments, His promises, His salvation...yes, all these things He is given us...Forever!

Psalms 119:160 - Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Some might say the law was not perfect

They do not understand that the word in Hebrew "Torah" (translated law) means "instruction, teaching"

Would Yahweh teach us an imperfect way to walk?

Brethren, it is man that is imperfect.. not His teaching!

Are His commandments multiple choice?

Psalms 19:7 - The law of YAHWEH is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of YAHWEH is sure, making wise the simple.

Psalms 19:8 - The statutes of YAHWEH are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of YAHWEH is pure, enlightening the eyes.

Psalms 19:9 - The fear of YAHWEH is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of YAHWEH are true and righteous altogether.

Psalms 19:10 - More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

Psalms 19:11 - Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Those among Yahushua said it was a hard saying

"who can know it?", therefore they did not believe

Because they did not understand, nor seek to

Must we also understand everything before we will believe?

Or will we believe, and then be given understanding?

Will we hold onto the hand that does not change?

Or are we hanging onto the world that ever-changes'?

Who do we trust for salvation?

Will it be in the traditions that we have inherited?

Will it be in the commandments and doctrines of men that do not profit??

Mark 7:7 - Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men.

It's all vain

Any worship toward Him that He has not ordained or accepted is vain.

Christmas, Easter, Sunday sabbaths, false names, false baptisms, false traditions that we have assumed to be right in the past have deceived us :(

Oh yes, we wish to say that we have departed from errors in tradition... but have we?

We associate certain things in scripture a certain way because it is the way that others around us have done it

Indeed, I learn this lesson often. We must beware of the false prophets brethren!! Beware of false traditions!!

There is commercial that says "Your in good hands with (an insurance company)"

Beware lest we be found in the hands of the wolf!

Or the hands of Babylon the great!

There is no better place than in Yahweh's hands..Seeking His will.

Let's hear the voice of the Shepherd ... calling for His sheep

John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Does He know you?

Do you know Him?

Do we recognize and receive His voice, and follow it?

Or do we hear it and question it?

Or do we hear it and ignore it?

John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 - My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Oh to be in that hand forever!

A place of rest.

A place of peace..security and light and truth and life

Tonight I want to invite anyone who is 'sitting on the fence' between serving Yahweh and not serving Him to consider these words.

And tonight I want to invite anyone who is 'sitting on the fence' between serving Yahweh with truth or doctrines of men to consider these words

Isaiah 55:6 - Seek ye YAHWEH while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

Isaiah 55:7 - Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto YAHWEH, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our Elohim, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isaiah 55:8 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith YAHWEH.

Isaiah 55:9 - For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Isaiah 55:10 - For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

Isaiah 55:11 - So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Yahushua will be here soon and we MUST seek Yahweh while He may be found

His Word.. the words of eternal life

Ecclesiastes 12:1 - Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

Ecclesiastes 12:2 - While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain:

Ecclesiastes 12:3 - In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened,

Ecclesiastes 12:4 - And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low;

Ecclesiastes 12:5 - Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:

Ecclesiastes 12:6 - Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto Elohim who gave it.

Ecclesiastes 12:8 - Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

All is vanity

Seek Yahweh

Of wisdom, Yahweh has said:

Proverbs 8:17 - I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

Let's seek Him early

Let's seek Yahweh in ALL things.

To whom shall we go?

Tonight I ask, "To whom will you go?"

Go to life

Go to truth !

Go to Yahweh !

in ALL things

May Yahweh bless you and may He have mercy on us all!

End


gate4 - eliyah, what is Spirit?
Zechariah14 - Ameyn!
Vicky_AWAY - \o/ praise Yahweh \o/
duane - HalleluYah\o/\o/
Yianis - HelleluYAHVEH
Angel - HalleluYah!
Nephesh - So Be It!!!!!!
agharron - Baruch ha shem YauHVweH!
Zechariah14 - Yah is Spirit
NOtheWAY - the WAY, is the WORD.....................Search the Scriptures, For in them yoy think yea have Life...JOHN 5:39-47...praise YAHWEH
Return - HalleluYah!!!
gate4 - eliyah, what is Spirit?
Rosalinda - ***********HalleluYah***********
Kefa - Praise Yahweh our redeemer, our salvation in whom we trust!!!!!!!!!!
EliYah - in Hebrew it literally means "Breath"
EliYah - Yahushua's words are Spirit and are life
Zechariah14 - Ruach
histalmid - \o/\o/HalleluYAH\o/\o/
decrease - Praise Yahweh for His word is eternal
apbtbites - HALLELU YAH-OOO-AH
gate4 - I mean what is it composed of?????
Dawid-n-Cher - HalleluYah!!
duane - Father Yahweh, thank you for your servants message!!
YAHalomim - \o/\o/\o/ praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
YAHalomim - \o/\o/\o/ praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
YAHalomim - \o/\o/\o/ praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
Jozef_Lydia - Praise Yahweh, \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
star - Thank You YAHWEH for YOUR Word and your messagenger...PRAISES to you Father....HalleluYah!
Zechariah14 - ....and let His people heed it
Jozef_Lydia - HalluYAH
EliYah - nothing tangible, it's another realm
gate4 - eliyah, is this question to large for you?
gate4 - Again, what is Spirit?
EliYah - If I'm not answering maybe I'm not sure what you are getting at
star - Yahushua is Present and will stand before the enemy!
EliYah - Yahweh is Spirit
EliYah - There are lots of ways of looking at the question
serfin4YaH - shabbat shalom, all who have come in :)
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((neph))))))))))))
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((gate))))))))))
serfin4YaH - ((((((((((((YaHalomim))))))))))))
gate4 - eliyah, I want to know what spirit is composed of is it non-material?
Joe - Shabbat Shalom
Soul - Surely Spirit is the essence of Yahweh?
serfin4YaH - ((((((((((((return))))))))))
decrease - +John 4:24
Angel - EliYah, how did it go for David with the news?
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((mishpacha)))))))))))
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((bob)))))))))))
Zechariah14 - gate, what do you think?
serfin4YaH - ((((((((((((choosenam)))))))))))
jess - o
star - test not our Father in Heaven, for HIS knowledge is truth and free to those who ask with a pure heart
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((claudia)))))))))
EliYah - He will be in the Detroit Newspaper next week and I have been working with their reporter
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((david n cher)))))))))))
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((((donnee)))))))))
serfin4YaH - ((((((((((((jay)))))))))))
donnee - (((((((((((((Penny))))))))))))))))
serfin4YaH - todah
gate4 - the word elohim is a uniplural... and they are spirit. What is spirit composed of...??
EliYah - The TV news stations didn't pan out
Angel - great EliYah
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((dw lacey))))))))))))
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((exodus))))))))))
pjr - praise yahweh
serfin4YaH - ((((((((((((kefa))))))))))))
decrease - +Romans 8 15
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((lyndsay)))))))))
EliYah - Maybe you should tell us, gate.. then we'll know where you are going with this
serfin4YaH - (((((((((((((YaHnis)))))))))
gate4 - great eliyah???? don't praise this person... he is not the Eternal....
dwlacey - good nite all! Shalom!!!!!!!
star - bind up Yahushua that which causes division, let your Spirit YAHWEH explode
serfin4YaH - shalom dw
agharron - (((((((((ROOM))))))))) bless you all who love YauHVweH and His words of Truth!
serfin4YaH - shalom agh.
star - thank you agharron
Zechariah14 - which person?
EliYah - gate4, you misunderstood. She was saying "Great, EliYah'
EliYah - Not that I'm great
Angel - gate, you have an ego problem, I was not pracing I was saying great to the news given! :(
penny4YaH - shabbat shalom ((((((((((shoshanna)))))))))
apbtbites - WHENYAHUSHUA comes there will be one king!no more fixed elections! no coverups! no lies!
star - thank you Yahushua for going before us, for loving us as we are

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