Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 05/19/00


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WAYne - ty :)
WAYne - Heavenly Father we Pray to You Through Yahshua Messiah Our Savior
WAYne - Thank You for The Blessings You bring upon those fearing Your Name
WAYne - and Have that Have Faith in Your Son our Savior Yahshua Messiah
WAYne - Thank You for This Shabbat and the fellowship that we are blessed with here each Sabbath
WAYne - Let Your Name be Sanctified
WAYne - and Thank You for our lot! in life
WAYne - allow Humility to rule us and meekness to guide us in Your love and Shalom always
WAYne - We pray You help all The unfortinate in the world , the hungry and poor
WAYne - and we pray that all are given a chance to come to an accurate knowledge of You Abba Father and The One whome You sent forth Yahshua Messiah
WAYne - we thank You and come before You as humble children
WAYne - So please Guide us in Your Ways and Guide Your Servant EliYah to proclaim Your Word , This Day and everyDay
WAYne - we Thank You Abba Father in Yahshua`s Name
WAYne - HalleluYAH
WAYne - *end*

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!

How appropriate was the prayer of brother WAYne tonight!

Asking for humility and to walk humbly with Yahweh

Tonight I would like to talk about the enemy of humility

I want to talk about a sin that is rampant yet silent.

This sin is in every place man is

But before I begin I want all to know that I also in some ways discover myself falling short of this sin at times.

And when I do I cringe

But This I say so that I would not appear as a hypocrite to Yahweh.

But I do want to share some things in His word about this silent sin.

This sin is silent because it is the sin itself that prevents men from admitting it.

It is the sin of Pride

Proverbs 30:32 - If thou hast done foolishly in lifting up thyself, or if thou hast thought evil, lay thine hand upon thy mouth.

Indeed, if we ever lifted ourselves up... then let us put our hand over our mouth

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Pride is deceptive

Obadiah 1:3 - The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

Obadiah 1:4 - Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith YHWH.

Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of YAHWEH is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Pride is deceptive

Yahweh hates pride. Even a proud look is an abomination to Him

Proverbs 6:16 - These six things doth YAHWEH hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

Proverbs 6:17 - A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Proverbs 6:18 - An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Proverbs 6:19 - A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

A proud look? Yes.

Even a proud look! Why?

I think that pride is one of the most harmful sins a person can do. It decieves us. Often we think we don't have it and later realize we do.

Pride though...can drive a man to do about anything.

It can drive a man to be wealthy... artistic..(as in music) powerful, famous.. and even religious.

But Why does Yahweh hate pride so much?

Ponder this for a moment..

Is there anything that we really have to be proud of ?

Think of it, Yahweh created the heavens and the earth and all that is within. Man has rebelled against his Creator from the beginning of time. Yes, from Eden until now

Yahweh even sent His own Son to die for us.. And many are too proud to even accept Him!

We must be careful when we say...We do this and that

It is Yahweh who gave us the breath of life. Remember Job?

Job 38:1 - Then YAHWEH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Job 38:2 - Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Job 38:3 - Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Yahweh spends the next 2 chapters declaring His worthiness and our inability to even come close to His might and power

Isaiah 2:12 - For the day of YAHWEH of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

We can read all those scriptures in Proverbs.. about the fool.. and in how much bad shape the fool is in....

Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Even a fool has more hope!

Proverbs 3:34 - Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth favor unto the lowly.

Yahweh loves the humble and opposes the proud.

1Peter 5:5 - Likewise you younger people, submit yourselves to your elders. Yes, all of you be submissive to one another, and be clothed with humility, for "YAHWEH resists the proud, but gives favor to the humble."

With pride...there is no room for Yahweh.

Psalms 10:4 - The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after Elohim: Elohim is not in all his thoughts.

If your thoughts are always on yourself, then your thoughts will be void of Yahweh

If we are great in our own eyes...Will Yahweh show us truth? Will we accept His ways?

James 4:13 - Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit";

James 4:14 - whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.

James 4:15 - Instead you ought to say, "If YAHWEH wills, we shall live and do this or that."

In all that we do, it must be for Yahweh.

Any other work is a wasted work

When singing a hymn or a song...it must be done for Yahweh, not for those who may be watching.

When writing a sermon, book or message...it must be for Yahweh, not because we want others to give us honor.

Let's look at David...When he fought the Goliath...was it with his own might that he boasted?

1Samuel 17:45 - Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of YAHWEH of hosts, the Elohim of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.

He saw beyond the flesh. David was small in the eyes of the people.

Isn't that what Yahweh often does? He takes a small thing...and does mighty things with it so that His name will be honored!

Micah 6:8 - He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth YAHWEH require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy Elohim?

Isaiah 66:1 - Thus saith YAHWEH, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Isaiah 66:2 - For all those things hath mine hand made, and those things have been, saith YAHWEH: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Do we tremble at His word? Or search it...that we might find accusation against another?

Do we read His word seeking for things that might convict our heart?

Or things that we might use to show others that we are right?

It is good to seek the truth..and share with others... but I think it is better when it convicted us first.

Putting other people down is another thing from pride.

I've met many a person that part of their personality was putting others down.. so that they might appear better and wise

They might even make false accusations against others.. so that they themselves might appear righteous.

Gossip often comes from pride.

Pride causes arguments and strife in our homes.

Proverbs 28:25 - He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in YAHWEH shall be made fat.

1Timothy 6:3 - If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Master Yahushua the Messiah, and to the doctrine which is according to reverence;

1Timothy 6:4 - He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

1Timothy 6:5 - Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is righteousness: from such withdraw thyself.

Pride, It is often the root of rebellious children. It is quite elusive.

What kept many of the Pharisees from accepting the Messiah? Was it not pride?

John 12:42 - Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

John 12:43 - For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of YAHWEH.

It certainly was there. Even a prayer can be driven by pride

I think that when we start to speak in our prayers as if Yahweh isn't in the first person....pride is often the reason I've heard this.

Pride occurs when at some point..the one offering prayer isn't talking to Yahweh anymore but to the people

Prayer is not to be a performance, it is an offering...a pure holy offering without blemish unto Yahweh. In prayer, we are speaking TO Yahweh

Remember this prayer..

Luke 18:10 - Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

Luke 18:11 - The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, Elohim, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

This man prayed 'thus with himself'

Luke 18:12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Luke 18:13 - And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, Elohim be merciful to me a sinner.

Luke 18:14 - I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

"Every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."

The Pharisee was exalting himself in his prayer

We ought to heed the warning

Luke 14:7 - And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them,

Luke 14:8 - When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him;

Luke 14:9 - And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.

Luke 14:10 - But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.

Luke 14:11 - For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Even so, it is better to be humbled in this life.. than in the next!

For all things hidden will come to light

Before I close, I do want to share a scripture that shows a different kind of 'pride'

Jeremiah 9:3 - And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith YAHWEH.

wrong verse..

Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith YAHWEH, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:

Jeremiah 9:24 - But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am YAHWEH which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith YAHWEH.

I don't think this gives us the go ahead to be self righteous like the scribes and pharisees... But let our honor be in that we are servants of Yahweh

It is not a shameful thing to serve Yahweh. It is an honorable thing to serve the KING, HalleluYah!

And we are blessed to be His servants. All of the longsuffering and mercy and love that He has had for us, just so that we could be His own

We are blessed to be servants of the Most High. Yahshua paid the ultimate price so that we could be the children of Yahweh

Let's not waste it on vanity, let's exalt Yahweh!

For all things, let us not praise men.. nor praise ourselves

Let us praise Yahweh!

Psalms 150:1 - Praise ye YAHWEH. Praise El in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

Psalms 150:2 - Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.

Psalms 150:3 - Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.

Psalms 150:4 - Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.

Psalms 150:5 - Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

Psalms 150:6 - Let every thing that hath breath praise YAHWEH. Praise ye YAHWEH. .

Psalms 149:1 - Praise ye YAHWEH. Sing unto YAHWEH a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

Psalms 148:13 - Let them praise the name of YAHWEH: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

Therefore..

Psalms 115:1 - Not unto us, O YAHWEH, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake.

May He bless you all .. may we serve Him with a pure heart :)

End


WAYne - \o/\o/\o/ Praise YHWH Through Yahshua The Messiah \o/\o/\o/
Dawid1 - Halluyah
Jay_Emm - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah !!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
WAYne - "before glory there is humility". prov.15:33. *
Miles_of_PA - Praise YHWH!!!
wrblest - HalleluYah \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\O/////////////////////
Ruth - \o/\o/\o/ Praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
Lily - HalleluYah!!!!
Br_jason - HalleluYah\o/
Ruth - \o/\o/\o/ Praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
Ruth - \o/\o/\o/ Praise Yahweh \o/\o/\o/
COL - HalleluYAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Terry - HalleluYah
Donnee - Celebrate YHUH as He is Honor and He is Victory \o/
BrBill_Angel - HalleluYAH!
Terry - Praise Yahweh
yahfriend - Praise YAH!
Miles_of_PA - Great Message EliYah!!!!!!!!!!!!
EliYah - Praise YAHWEH
Terry - HalleluYah!!!!!
ylisha - I t is good to see Yahweh I working with us
downlo - Thanks again EliYah/Praise YHWH!
ylisha - Thanks Yahweh
Dawid1 - We have a question
menorah24 - \)/Praise Yahweh
Lily - Shalom and have a blessed Shabbat
yahfriend - So, does he do that every Sabbath! This is my first time?
Moonwatch - Yes
EliYah - Go ahead, Dawid1
Dawid1 - Our question is....If you can never think about yourself, then how can you make plans to work and perform your job, etc.
EliYah - Of course we do have to think of ourselves
EliYah - Else we might never eat :)
Dawid1 - Do basically what the scripture means is that we have to keep him in our hearts with all of our plans.
EliYah - In all things...we think of Him first
EliYah - If we put ourselves first, before Yahweh
EliYah - Then it is pride and self idolatry
Dawid1 - The scripture in James 4 that talks about not (I think) saying what we are going to be doing tomorrow or the next day. I have always been confused about that. I have always been raised in a family that set goals, etc.
EliYah - We always say "Yahweh willing"
WAYne - +mat 6 33
EliYah - "If Yahweh wills" we will do this and that
EliYah - James 4:15 - Instead you ought to say, "If YAHWEH wills, we shall live and do this or that."
EliYah - We set goals in our home also
EliYah - We even made a song on it and put it on our refrigerator..
EliYah - they are:
EliYah - Love Yahweh
EliYah - Love one another
EliYah - Live our life unspotted from the glory
EliYah - Be self (Yahweh) sufficient
EliYah - Give Yahweh all of the praise
menorah24 - Eliyah I have a question?-Menorah24
COL - AMEN give YHVH all our Praise
EliYah - Go ahead menorah
Dawid1 - Thank you Eliyah !
yahfriend - Is he a minister?
menorah24 - In light of the unclean and clean laws what would a doctor or nurse do if they toke care of the elderly and dealt with discharges and uncleanness?
oneway - who
EliYah - Do what is necessary to be 'clean'
EliYah - Becoming unclean is not a sin
EliYah - Doing nothing about it is another thing
menorah24 - what about abominalble animals that makes us unclean?
menorah24 - would tha be sin?
EliYah - I wouldn't touch them, myself
Dawid1 - Yahfriend are you asking about Eliyah ?
EliYah - Leviticus 11:8 - Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
EliYah - We are commanded not to touch that
menorah24 - is that scripturally based or opinion. I'm having a great deal of problems trying to decifer what part of the law do we keep.
EliYah - so there is a difference
wrblest - petting a dog or cat isn't bad though is it?
EliYah - See above scripture
EliYah - wrblest: only if they are a carcass :)
BrBill_Angel - +Colossians 2 20-22
choosena2 - Shaloom good night
EliYah - If the animals are alive, then they aren't unclean
EliYah - to touch
wrblest - ok
COL - are you saying it's ok to touch a living swine?
menorah24 - ok eliyah what about pork product in shampoos and soaps? Are they unclean then. Because we see John the baptist wear camel's hair.
EliYah - Israelites rode camels and horses
menorah24 - ohhhhh
EliYah - The camel's hair he wore was woven hair.. it didn't include skin
menorah24 - oohhhhhhhhh!!!!
JamesTrimm - unclean laws regarding food only apply to food
menorah24 - man light is good!!!
JamesTrimm - which is why the tabernacle was made of unlean animal skins
JamesTrimm - and John wore Camel hair
JamesTrimm - and why Jews play footbal
wrblest - (:
simpleman - I have a question
EliYah - Footballs are actually cow skin
EliYah - But most leather bibles are pig skin :(
BrBill_Angel - heheh
COL - OY VEY
wrblest - really???
Jeremiah - are some hamburgers made of pork?
menorah24 - eliyah so if a nurse worked at the Center for Disease Control would she be unclean everyday till she got home?
EliYah - jeremiah, not that I know of
EliYah - Guess it depends on what she touched?
JamesTrimm - NFL regulation footballs are "pigskins" as I recall
JamesTrimm - John was not made unclean by wearing Camel hair
EliYah - They call it pigskin..originally they were but not any more
EliYah - I'm unclear on that issue..as far as leather and such
menorah24 - The concern is that she would never know. So would she have to cleanse herself evryday before sundown. And what about a midwife?
EliYah - It's good to bathe daily I think
EliYah - :)
COL - "most leather Bible are pig skin"......Oh My!
JamesTrimm - And the Tabernacle was made from the skins of unclean animals. Kosher food laws aply only to food
channah - what about if you cant afford to buy kosher
EliYah - I'm not sure about that James?
channah - foods
JamesTrimm - To eat Kosher all you have to do is either buy Kosher or buy vegitarian (Vegies are always kosher)
COL - channah, if one can't afford to buy Kosher than I hope they can afford the Doctor bills. (lol)
EliYah - BDB/Thayers # 8476
EliYah - 08476 tachash {takh'-ash}
EliYah - probably of foreign derivation; TWOT - 2503; n m
EliYah - AV - badger 14; 14
EliYah - 1) a kind of leather, skin, or animal hide
EliYah - 1a) perhaps the animal yielding the skin
EliYah - 1a1) perhaps the badger or dugong, dolphin, or sheep
wrblest - Yahweh will provide a way for you to afford it if you make up your mind to
Dawid1 - You will be surprised how many foods you buy already have the kosher symbol on them.
Jeremiah - you still be unclean until even or evening
BrBill_Angel - According to Lev. 11 if you touch any animal that is dead you become unclean but if it is a live then you are not unclean so if your pig is alive it is ok to pet it if it is dead don't touch it,
channah - most of my foods are kosher except meat
EliYah - Shabbat Shalom DelaYah :)
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom EliYah
DelaYah - : )
WAYne - Shabbat Shalom DelaYah :)
oneway - lol
menorah24 - Eliyah what about Midwives who deliver babies all day long? They are exposed to blood (uncleanness)
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom everyone!
oneway - here piggy piggy piggy
JamesTrimm - yes that is right LOTS of foods are kosher. The trick is kosher cheese (hard to find usually only in Kosher food sections) and Kosher meat
oneway - lol
COL - BrBill....I guess first of all, who would be keeping a pet piggy right?
menorah24 - shalom
EliYah - menorah, it's not a sin to be unclean.. else there would be no children
oneway - who has the pet pig
laqat - is'nt great that we are sanctified in Messiah!
channah - that the expensive part

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