Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 05/14/99


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DelaYah - HalleluYAH!
DelaYah - Abba YHWH, we greet You this evening with a humble voice and say...
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom!
DelaYah - We thank You Father for this place of fellowship on this Your Holy day...
DelaYah - We ask Father that You would help this evening Father to HEAR with our ears...
DelaYah - adn to receive instruction in the WORD that is shown to us...
DelaYah - Please Abba give us understanding to perceive the Words of wisdom and judgement...
DelaYah - and lead us in the WAY of everlasting...
DelaYah - We blessYou Abba and thank you again in Your Son's Name
DelaYah - Yahushua Ha Mashiach.....
DelaYah - so let it be!
DelaYah - HalleluYAH!

Berean's message:

Baruch HaBa BaShem YHWH!! \o/ Blessed is he who comes in the name of YHWH !!

Ecclesiastes 12:10 - The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

Isaiah 1:18 - Come now, and let us reason together, saith YHWH: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Isaiah 1:19 - If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Isaiah 1:20 - But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of YHWH hath spoken it.

Psalms 19:12 - Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

Psalms 19:13 - Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

Psalms 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O YHWH, my strength, and my redeemer.

Psalms 79:9 - Help us, O Elohim of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.

Isaiah 33:22 - For YHWH is our judge, YHWH is our lawgiver, YHWH is our king; he will save us.

Shabbat shalom brethren, mishpacha, if you haven’t read the message on “Iniquity is transgression of the law”, I recommend reading it, as it is relevant to this study.

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What is salvation?

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repenting.........being saved from death(sin).... returning(teshuvah)

cleanliness(by YHWH's standards)......... obedience..........

love, truth, trust, Fear of YHWH......... Life!.......

Life, is : walking in TORAH,

YHWH’s Teaching....... ETERNAL LIFE.

The Ruach[Spirit] will incline our hearts to walk in YHWH’s teaching, to walk in obedience

this, is the gift, of salvation...that leads to eternal salvation

CHOOSE LIFE!!

Deuteronomy 30:15 - See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

death and evil, representing sin, rebellion

life and good, representing, the righteous teaching of YHWH, and obedience

we are offered a gift, of salvation

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of YHWH is eternal life through Yahushua the Messiah our Saviour.

we have a choice....to accept, or refuse..

You might say, "Who would be crazy, to refuse salvation"?

or to reject it?

There is a common teaching that leads not to salvation, but leads away from salvation

one that teaches that obedience is not necessary, and lawfulness is wrong

2Thessalonians 2:10 - And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

we see here, that the love of the truth, is necessary for salvation...

it is neccessary, for walking in truth

2Thessalonians 2:7 - For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

the mystery of iniquity, a teaching of false righteousness, one that teaches that the Word of YHWH is not to be heeded

Psalms 37:39 - But the salvation of the righteous is of YHWH: he is their strength in the time of trouble.

Psalms 37:40 - And YHWH shall help them and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.

David surely knew of salvation

Psalms 85:7 - Shew us thy mercy, O YHWH, and grant us thy salvation.

Psalms 85:8 - I will hear what El YHWH will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.

Psalms 85:9 - Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.

Psalms 119:162 - I rejoice at thy word, as one that findeth great spoil.

Psalms 119:163 - I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love.

Psalms 119:164 - Seven times a day do I praise thee because of thy righteous judgments.

Psalms 119:165 - Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Psalms 119:166 - YHWH, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.

Psalms 119:167 - My soul hath kept thy testimonies; and I love them exceedingly.

Psalms 119:168 - I have kept thy precepts and thy testimonies: for all my ways are before thee.

Psalms 119:169 - Let my cry come near before thee, O YHWH: give me understanding according to thy word.

Psalms 119:170 - Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word.

Psalms 119:171 - My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes.

Psalms 119:172 - My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

Psalms 119:173 - Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.

Psalms 119:174 - I have longed for thy salvation, O YHWH; and thy law is my delight.

Psalms 119:175 - Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me.

Psalms 119:176 - I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

What does our Messiah Yahshua say.. the author of our salvation?

Hebrews 5:8 - though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.

Hebrews 5:9 - And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

Matthew 4:4 - But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of YHWH.

Matthew 4:17 - From that time Yahushua began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

John 4:14 - But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Jeremiah 2:11 - Hath a nation changed their elohim, which are yet no elohim? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

Jeremiah 2:12 - Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith YHWH.

Jeremiah 2:13 - For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

Matthew 7:1921 -

Matthew 7:19 - Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Matthew 7:20 - Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Rabbi, Rabbi, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 6:21 - For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Matthew 5:48 - Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of YHWH, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Matthew 5:16 - Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Matthew 5:18 - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matthew 5:19 - Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

how can there be any question...any doubt, in anyones mind?

the gift of salvation, is being cleansed from sin, and no longer being cut-off

the gift of salvation, is being able to return to YHWH

the gift of salvation, is the penalty of death, being paid for us

the gift of salvation, is the Ruach(Spirit) leading us to Truth, to love, to trust YHWH

to fear YHWH

which is life

now....and everlasting

life...is the Teaching, that YHWH has given us

Matthew 7:22 - Many will say to me in that day, Rabbi, Rabbi, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Matthew 7:23 - And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

iniquity....lawlessness

teaching others....to reject salvation

Matthew 15:20 - These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

hmm,wrong one :o)

Matthew 12:50 - For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Matthew 22:36 - Rabbi, which is the great commandment in the law?

Matthew 22:37 - Yahushua said unto him, Thou shalt love YHWH thy Elohim with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Matthew 22:38 - This is the first and great commandment.

Matthew 22:39 - And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 22:40 - On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

how can one have love....? if they do not love our Fathers teaching?

for we are told, that the law, and sayings of the prophets hang on these

John 4:23 - But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

John 4:24 - Elohim is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Luke 16:17 - And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 8:28 - Then said Yahushua unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 8:29 - And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

John 8:31 - Then said Yahushua to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

John 8:32 - And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

we have a case of 2 paradigms

one says, what must i do to get salvation....what is necessary?

the other says...i am thankful, how can i please my Father

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John 15:10 - If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 16:13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

1Timothy 2:1 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

1Timothy 2:2 - For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all reverence and seriousness.

1Timothy 2:3 - For this is good and acceptable in the sight of YHWH our Saviour;

1Timothy 2:4 - Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

HalleluYah!!

so tov, a purpose revealed

Acts 5:32 - And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, whom Elohim hath given to them that obey him.

to those...who obey Him

Romans 6:22 - But now being made free from sin, and become servants to YHWH, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of YHWH is eternal life through Yahushua the Messiah our Saviour.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by favor you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of YHWH,

Ephesians 2:9 - not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ephesians 2:10 - For we are His workmanship, created in the Master Yahushua for good works, which YHWH prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

there is no boasting...we have not redeemed ourselves

an attitude of thankfulness......and sincerety is what we should have

sincerety, to realise we have lived in rebellion, and a strong determination not to put such redemption to shame

Hebrews 5:6 - As He also says in another place: "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek";

Hebrews 5:7 - who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His reverent fear,

Hebrews 5:8 - though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.

Hebrews 5:9 - And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

Hebrews 6:4 - For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,

Hebrews 6:5 - and have tasted the good word of YAHWEH and the powers of the age to come,

Hebrews 6:6 - if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of YAHWEH, and put Him to an open shame.

Deuteronomy 30:10 - If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of YHWH thy Elohim, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto YHWH thy Elohim with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

Deuteronomy 30:14 - But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

Deuteronomy 30:15 - See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

Deuteronomy 30:16 - In that I command thee this day to love YHWH thy Elohim, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and YHWH thy Elohim shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Deuteronomy 30:19 - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

12CHOOSE SALVATION

CHOOSE LIFE

Deuteronomy 30:20 - That thou mayest love YHWH thy Elohim, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which YHWH sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

Isaiah 8:20 - To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Psalms 95:6 - O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before YHWH our maker.

Psalms 95:7 - For he is our Elohim; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,

Psalms 95:8 - Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

1Kings 2:2 - I go the way of all the earth: be thou strong therefore, and shew thyself a man;

1Kings 2:3 - And keep the charge of YHWH thy Elohim, to walk in his ways, to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself:

1Kings 2:4 - That YHWH may continue his word which he spake concerning me, saying, If thy children take heed to their way, to walk before me in truth with all their heart and with all their soul, there shall not fail thee (said he) a man on the throne of Israel.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 - Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear Elohim, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Ecclesiastes 12:14 - For Elohim shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. .

End


EliYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/
SisAnnas - \0/\0/\0/ PRAISE YAHWEH \0/\0/\0/
BrPoet - \0/\0/\0/Praise Yahweh \0/\0/\0/\0/
Jay_Emm - \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ HalleluYah !!! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
DelaYah - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/ \o/ \õ/
claudia - wonderful
BrTom_ - \o/ \o/ \o/ HalleluYAH!! \o/ \o/ \o/
claudia - nice job
BrPoet - reat sermon berean
Jozef - HalleluYah, Prais Yah \o/ \o/
SisAnnas - ¯`'·.¸( ¯`'·.¸ \0/\0/\0/\0/ HalleluYah \0/\0/\0/\0/ ¸. ·'´¯) ¸. ·'´¯)
DelaYah - Blessed be thou O YHWH, HalleluYah!
Daniel - hello all...this is my first time here
SisAnnas - (¯`'·.¸( ¯`'·.¸ . . . . . . : ) Shalom Alechem, Daniel ( : . . . . . ¸. ·'´¯) ¸. ·'´¯)
claudia - me too Daniel
DelaYah - hello Daniel adn welcome :)
BrPoet - Shabbat Shalom Daniel
DelaYah - adn=and
EliYah - Are there any questions or added comments?
BrTom_ - Welcome Daniel and claudia
claudia - you bet
Greg - What a Sacred time this evening......
BrPoet - shalom claudia
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom Greg :)
Greg - Shalom DelaYah :o)
claudia - I have questions
BrPoet - yesclaudia
BrTom_ - I appreciated those several scriptures that were quotations from the Messiah. They make a good sermon by themselves.
BroJaan - Berean, great sermon
BroJaan - Very important message
BrBuddy - Very good berean, appreciate you Achi
claudia - I have been looking for the verse that says there is one name under heaven and earth by which you can be saved..which name is it...Yahweh or Yahushua..
EliYah - Acts 4:10 - Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Yahushua the Messiah of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom YAHWEH raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
EliYah - Acts 4:11 - This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
EliYah - Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Berean2 - Psalms 115:1 - Not unto us, O YAHWEH, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake.
BrPoet - Shabbat Shalom Caleb
BrBill - Berean, what is Deceivableness? Is that supposed to be a verb? or an adverb?
DelaYah - Shabbat Shalom Caleb :)
BrBill - Can't find it in the dictionary
BroJaan - Claudia, its YAH
BrTom_ - :o)
EliYah - Means Deceitfulness
Caleb - Shabbat Shalom BrPoet
DelaYah - 539. apate, ap-at'-ay; from G538; delusion:--deceit (-ful, -fulness), deceivableness (-ving).
DelaYah - there it is
BrBill - Oh, i c . thanks EliYah!
Caleb - Shabbat Shalom DelaYah
BrTom_ - Claudia it is Yahshua the Messiah
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SisAnnas - =^i^= ^i^= ^i^=" Shabbat Shalom", Caleb =^i^= ^1^= ^i^=
BroJaan - Yahshua means YAH Saviour!
Caleb - Shabbat Shalom SisAnnas
BroJaan - Praise YAH is HalleluYAH
EliYah - Claudia: I believe Acts 4:12 is speaking of Yahshua the Messiah according to the context
Schmuel - hey you have differing views
Schmuel - agree with Eliyah
DelaYah - welcome vertygir1
BrTom_ - The name to be saved by is the naame of the son, Yahshua.
claudia - well.....Beaeans verse says Yahweh is the only name by which you can b e saved
BrTom_ - According to Acts 4:10
BrPoet - Liala tov all Shabbat Shalom Aliechem
SisAnnas - (¯`'·.¸( ¯`'·.¸ . . . . . . : ) Shalom Alechem, BrPoet ( : . . . . . ¸. ·'´¯) ¸. ·'´¯)
BrTom_ - Certainly Yahweh is our savior but He does it thru His son, Yahshua.
claudia - who will resurrect mankind and give the gift of grace?
BrTom_ - That is THE WAY He wants us to come to Him.
claudia - what name does he come in?
Berean - Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of YHWH is eternal life through Yahushua the Messiah our Saviour.
Greg - Here is my question why do you have to left off "waw" as in YahUshua? It should not remove "waw" letter
claudia - what name did Yahushua call upon?
Armando - Shabbat Shalom!
BroJaan - Ever heard that the name YHWH is really pronounced YAH ?
Jozef - Would it be correct to interped the name Yahshua as the torah, living word, lived in our life, dwelling in us.
Ebed - +psa 68:4
BrBill - shabbat shalom Armando
EliYah - The Hebrew has "Yahweh"
vertygir1 - hello everyone it is a pleasure to be here
BrTom_ - In some cases yes, Josef
DelaYah - Greg most here feel the diferrence between the "waw" is dialectical
claudia - heard that, but Yah seem to be only half a name
Joshua - The problem with interpretting Acts 4:12 as meaning the name "Yahushua" is that in Acts 2:21 Kefa says the name of salvbation is YHWH. IN Rom 10:13, many years AFTER Acts 4:12 Paul says the name is YHWH. How can this be reconsiled to "Yahushua"? Could it be Messiah has the name YHWH (i.e. a new name? -- Rev 3:12; Heb 1:4; Phil 2:9-11)
SisAnnas - =^i^= ^i^= ^i^=" Shabbat Shalom", vertygir1 =^i^= ^1^= ^i^=
Berean2 - hi vertygirl
BroJaan - Psalm 68:4 has YAH, or YHH
BrTom_ - vertygirl, have you been having trouble staying connected?
BroJaan - HalleluYAH also only has YAH
DelaYah - YAH was used by David and "psalmists in singing
EliYah - Joshua: Yahushua means "Yahweh is salvation"
claudia - Yes...new name
vertygir1 - yes I keep getting cut off
EliYah - So when you call upon Yahushua you also call upon the name of Yahweh
BroJaan - One wonders since the angels in heaven say, "HalleluYAH" then wouldn't they know how to pronounce his name?
Schmuel - any travelling aussies in the room tonite ?
claudia - I have seen Halleluyahu in an ancient scroll from Qumran
Joshua - Eliyah: no, it means, "Yahu [is] salvation". It is aan assumption that YHW = YHWH; the fact is they are used together in isa 12:2; Isa 26:4; Ps 118:14; etc...
DelaYah - Schmuel :)
TRuth - hehehehehe - yea Schmuel
claudia - it was forbidden about 300 b c e
TRuth - {:D
Schmuel - oh Joshua oh mi amigo always with that drift
Joshua - claudia: Yes, the habukukk Pesher in the DSS has HLLWYHW
Schmuel - oh Truth
Schmuel - did they give you your own puter
TRuth - {:D ken achi
Joshua - Hey Schmuel :)
TRuth - I brought my own
EliYah - I believe the contraction has to do with Hebrew word construction
EliYah - rather than referring to another name
Schmuel - hi joshua
Greg - Shalom Joshua, Let Yahu be praise forever
Schmuel - you aughta cmon over to the oneness camp
Schmuel - your a natural
EliYah - hehe
EliYah - Are there any other questions or comments?
claudia - yes
Joshua - Schmuel : hmmmm.... I dunno.... :)
tingrin - Shalom everyone, shalom Schmuel!
BroJaan - Does not the bible say the gentiles will one day praise YAH by his name?
BrTom_ - Got another good one, Claudia?
EliYah - BroJaan, yes
Greg - Yes Bro Jaan it is at Mal 1:11
Greg - +mal 1 11
Schmuel - and your own phone too ?
claudia - the problem is defining which laws are applicable today for salvation
Schmuel - you hooked up cellular thru aussie land ??
BroJaan - And that prophecy is fulfilled when they say, HalleluYAH
claudia - some laws were instituted for sin and are not good for us for eternity
Greg - it is now.....
BroJaan - But if YAH is not his name, that means Mal 1:11 is not fulfilled
Berean - that is the paradigm i was talking about claudia
Ebed - +psa 102:18
BrTom_ - Salvation is not by keeping laws but by believing in Yahshua the Messiah.
claudia - +Mal 1:11
Schmuel - eretz yisrael on sunday looking likely
Schmuel - halleluYah !
BrBill - Mal 1:11 will be fulfilled when Yahshua returns
BroJaan - Incidentally, Psalm 68:4 says YAH, in Hebrew YHH
EliYah - If anyone would like to visit our home near Columbus, Ohio the weekend of May 22...let me know in private message
claudia - yes.
EliYah - Berean, TRuth, DelaYah, Yil_Lily, and YermeYah will be here :)
claudia - I believe that Yahushua was even criticized for breaking the Sabbath
EliYah - And BrBuddy and others
Schmuel - well if Truth is there, then Grace and Faith must follow
vertygir1 - yes
claudia - we must question the laws and understand them before blindly following them
DelaYah - ken Schmuel... we are expecting Him
DelaYah - :)
EliYah - Claudia, I don't believe that He broke the Sabbath day commandment as Yahweh intended..else He would have sinned
DelaYah - HalleluYAH!
claudia - correct
BroJaan - I find it interesting that most know how to praise YAH by his name
vertygir1 - how do I get to your private message?
BroJaan - HalleluYAH
claudia - but the men in the synagogue accused him of walking through a field on the sabbath
BrTom_ - If anyone would like to meet with us 5-22 & 5-23 in SE Penn. email me at tlschatt@homemail.com
BroJaan - And yet, at the same time, few know his name to use it in vain.
Ebed - Yahshua broke the traditions of the Pharisees, the oral law, not the Law of Yahweh
BroJaan - Isn't the best use of HIS name to praise him?
claudia - correct
Berean - Luke 8:12 - Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
EliYah - Just click on my name, then click the PrivMsg button
BrBuddy - I plan on being in Lancaster n the 22nd, & 23rd other wise I would love to meet you BrTom
vertygir1 - thanks
Schmuel - tom where in PA
claudia - I understand that there are those who would not light a fire for cooking on the Sabbath?
DelaYah - BroJaan.... I elieve the best use of His Name is to show people what it is He is about through our repentance and showing others our light
BrTom_ - Lancaster is near Frystown.
EliYah - BrTom, he means Ohio
BrBuddy - Lancaster Ohio
Joshua - Many scholars ahve thoroughly looked into the issue of Mashiyach Yahushua and the accusation of him breaking the Shabbat per the Torah; most/all ahve concluded that he in no way broke the Torah, but only the oral traditions.
BrTom_ - Frystown is between Harrisburg and Allentown
DelaYah - claudia.... the Scriptures indicate that "cooking" is not permitted on the Sabbath
BrTom_ - Pennsylvania
Schmuel - bacchiochi did a decent job on that one too
claudia - where?
BrBill - Brother Tom, are you coming to Frystown, PA for the 22, 23rd?
Schmuel - in "10 ? on Sabbath in the New Testament"
DelaYah - +exo 16 23
EliYah - Exodus 16:23 - And he said unto them, This is that which YAHWEH hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto YAHWEH: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
BrTom_ - Yes, Yahweh willing.
DelaYah - +exo 16 24
claudia - I thought it was the gathering of wood that was forbitten...
EliYah - That too
BrBill - will be glad to meet you!
DelaYah - I used to think that too,.... until I was shown this scripture

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