Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 03/06/98


EliYah - Brother Berean will open with prayer :)

Berean - Our Father, Abba, Almighty, we come before you, rejoicing, and thanking you for this Sabbath

Berean - and ask for your blessing on this assembly, and the learning, and teaching, that we are having here tonight

Berean - We ask that you guide us, and direct those who speak, so that they might speak Truth, and build your people closer to you

Berean - We thank you for the blessings that you have given us, and for the prayers that you have answered

Berean - We ask You to join us, and guide us in all things, and above all else, we pray that your will is done.

Berean - we ask this in Yahshua's Name, your son, our Messiah

Berean - HalaluYah!

EliYah - So let it be, HalleluYah :)

YermeYah - HalleluYAH

BrTom - \o/ \o/

YermeYah - so be it

bblman - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/

TrustInYah - Praise Yahweh

BrGreg - HaleluYAH!!!

EliYah - HalleluYah. Brother YermeYah has something to share with us tonite. Go ahead brother :)

YermeYah - HalleluYAH

YermeYah - The thing that I am going to speak about this evening is...

YermeYah - Do we trust in YHWH with all our heart, or do we lean to our own understanding?

YermeYah - Proverbs 3:5 - Trust in YHWH with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

YermeYah - This question applies as much to me as it does to anyone who hears it.

YermeYah - Proverbs 14:12 - There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

YermeYah - Proverbs 12:15 - The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

YermeYah - Concerning YHWH's dietary food laws, do we trust in YHWH with all our heart, or do we lean to our own understanding?

YermeYah - Romans 14:14 - I know, and am persuaded by the Saviour Yahushua , that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

YermeYah - 1Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

YermeYah - 1Timothy 4:2 - Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

YermeYah - 1Timothy 4:3 - Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods, which YHWH hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

YermeYah - 1Timothy 4:4 - For every creature of YHWH is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

YermeYah - 1Timothy 4:5 - For it is set apart by the word of YHWH and prayer.

YermeYah - Question...how is it set apart by the Word of YHWH?

YermeYah - Leviticus chapter 11 and beginning in verse 2 and reading a few chosen verses...

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:2 - Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:3 - Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:9 - These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:10 - And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:13 - And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray...

YermeYah - and this continues on thru verse 19 concerning fowls that we may not eat

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:20 - All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:21 - Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:22 - Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.

YermeYah - Leviticus 11:23 - But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

YermeYah - Now, these are the Words of YHWH that sets apart the food that we are permitted to eat

YermeYah - If it is not set apart by the Word of YHWH, then we are not permitted to eat it.

YermeYah - Question...how can we be sure that the ingredients in the food we eat is kosher (fit)?

YermeYah - We are faced with food products that unless we have a chemistry degree, we will not be able to even pronounce some of the ingredients, let alone know whether or not they are kosher .

YermeYah - This is why I believe that the kosher markings on many foods are a blessing.

YermeYah - Also, concerning kosher food, we are commanded to not eat blood or fat....

YermeYah - Leviticus 7:22 - And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying, 23 - Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Ye shall eat no manner of fat, of ox, or of sheep, or of goat.

YermeYah - Leviticus 7:24 - And the fat of the beast that dieth of itself, and the fat of that which is torn with beasts, may be used in any other use: but ye shall in no wise eat of it.

YermeYah - This is saying that you can use the fat but you may not eat the meat...

YermeYah - Exodus 22:31 - And ye shall be holy men unto me: neither shall ye eat any flesh that is torn of beasts in the field; ye shall cast it to the dogs.

YermeYah - continuing on with Leviticus 7:25...

YermeYah - Leviticus 7:25 - For whosoever eateth the fat of the beast, of which men offer an offering made by fire unto YHWH, even the soul that eateth it shall be cut off from his people.

YermeYah - Leviticus 7:26 - Moreover ye shall eat no manner of blood, whether it be of fowl or of beast, in any of your dwellings.

YermeYah - Leviticus 7:27 - Whatsoever soul it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

YermeYah - This is why I believe that if we decide to eat meat (we are allowed to eat meat, but we are not commanded to eat it most of the time)....

YermeYah - but if we eat meat, I believe that it is imporatant to be sure that the animal was killed properly, and unless we do it ourselves...

YermeYah - then we should purchase it from a kosher meat market, otherwise we will end up eating blood.

YermeYah - And it all goes back to the question...do we trust in YHWH with all our heart, or do we lean to our own understanding?

YermeYah - The next subject that I wish to address is...

YermeYah - How are we to relate to the individual members of the body of the Messiah?

YermeYah - Yahushua said in John 13:34....

YermeYah - John 13:34 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

YermeYah - How did Yahushua love us?

YermeYah - John 15:12 - This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

YermeYah - John 15:13 - Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

YermeYah - That is what our master did for us!!

YermeYah - Let us now go to the Torah...

YermeYah - Leviticus 19:17 - Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

YermeYah - Leviticus 19:18 - Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am YHWH.

YermeYah - Now, going back to Yahushua

YermeYah - Luke 17:1 - Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!

YermeYah - Luke 17:2 - It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

YermeYah - Luke 17:3 - Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

YermeYah - Luke 17:4 - And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

YermeYah - If we have a problem with a brother or a sister, we better get it resolved!!!

YermeYah - Matthew 18:15 - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

YermeYah - Matthew 18:16 - But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

YermeYah - Matthew 18:17 - And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

YermeYah - Matthew 18:18 - Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

YermeYah - If your brother has 'anything' against you...

YermeYah - Matthew 5:23 - Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;

YermeYah - Matthew 5:24 - Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

YermeYah - Proverbs 16:2 - All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but YHWH weigheth the spirits.

YermeYah - Proverbs 16:3 - Commit thy works unto YHWH, and thy thoughts shall be established.

YermeYah - Proverbs 15:28 - The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.

YermeYah - Proverbs 15:29 - YHWH is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

YermeYah - Proverbs 15:30 - The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report maketh the bones fat.

YermeYah - Proverbs 15:31 - The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.

YermeYah - Proverbs 15:32 - He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.

YermeYah - Proverbs 15:33 - The fear of YHWH is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.

YermeYah - We are called to be servants of Abba YHWH...

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:1 - I, therefore, the prisoner of Yahushua, beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called,

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:2 - with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love,

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:3 - endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:11 - And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:12 - for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of the Messiah,

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:13 - till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of YHWH, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Messiah;

YermeYah - Ephesians 4:14 - that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting...

YermeYah - Notice what Shaul said...That we are to be in the unity of the spirit (v. 3) until we come into the unity of the faith (v. 13)

YermeYah - Colossians 3:12 - Put on therefore, as the elect of YHWH, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

YermeYah - Colossians 3:13 - Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as the Messiah forgave you, so also do ye.

YermeYah - Colossians 3:14 - And above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfectness

YermeYah - Colossians 3:15 - And let the peace of Elohim rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

YermeYah - Colossians 3:16 - Let the word of the Messiah dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with favor in your hearts to the Master.

YermeYah - Colossians 3:17 - And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Master Yahushua, giving thanks to YHWH the Father by him.

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YermeYah - Psalms 37:3 - Trust in YHWH, and do tov (good); so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.

YermeYah - And I would like to say Praise YHWH to that!!....

YermeYah - In this age of permissiveness, we must trust YHWH with our whole heart

YermeYah - ...

YermeYah - Proverbs 22:15 - Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

YermeYah - Proverbs 13:24 - He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (often)

YermeYah - rod is strong's #07626....it is a stick

YermeYah - Proverbs 19:18 - Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.

YermeYah - Proverbs 23:13 - Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

YermeYah - Proverbs 23:14 - Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from the grave.

YermeYah - Proverbs 29:15 - The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

YermeYah - Proverbs 29:17 - Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul.

YermeYah - Where we as adults are supposed to have temperance and self control, children on the other hand, do not have these tools to battle human nature...

YermeYah - Proverbs 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

YermeYah - Deuteronomy 6:6 - And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

YermeYah - Deuteronomy 6:7 - And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

YermeYah - And we must remember that we are all children of YHWH...

YermeYah - Proverbs 3:11 - My son, despise not the chastening of YHWH; neither be weary of his correction:

YermeYah - Proverbs 3:12 - For whom YHWH loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

YermeYah - Hebrews 12:7 - If you endure chastening, YHWH deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

YermeYah - We can say that we love YHWH and believe in following the Torah, but remember...

YermeYah - James 2:17 - Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

YermeYah - James 2:18 - But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

YermeYah - James 2:19 - You believe that there is one Elohim. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble!

YermeYah - James 2:20 - But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?

YermeYah - .

YermeYah - I would like to end by saying that it is YHWH's desire that we all trust him with all our hearts, and lean not to our own understanding...

YermeYah - 2Kepha 3:9 - YHWH is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

YermeYah - May YHWH bless you all

EliYah - Praise Yahweh! :)

BrGreg - HalleluYAH!!! \o/

TrustInYah - Praise the truth

Berean - \o/

QuikSilver - aMeN To THe TRuTH

BrTom-Dway - Good words YermeYah. Thanks be to Yahweh.

crash915 - HalleluYah!!

QuikSilver - :{D

Berean - +Mal 4 2

BroDavid - halleluYah

TrustInYah - He's been waiting for 6000 years, I'd saying that's longsuffering

jitm - Praise be His Holy name

BrGreg - Shabbt Shalom Bro David!! :)

bblman - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ - HALLELUYAH - \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/

YermeYah - Shabbat Shalom Bro David :)

EliYah - Are there any questions or comments for YermeYah?

TrustInYah - Yeah, could you repeat that?

BrGreg - Prov 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

Berean - worth hearing again :o)

jitm - nice service thanks eliyah for the invitaion , shalom wags

TrustInYah - It was a great topic. I like to print the service minutes

Wags - shabbat shalom jitm

EliYah - Glad you could make it jitm

Berean - +mal 3 16

BrGreg - Shalom wags :)

bblman - Shalom jitm !

YermeYah - Shabbat Shalom jitm

jitm - shalom shabbat wags

YermeYah - Shabbat Shalom wags

TrustInYah - Shabbat Shalom all!!

Berean - Shabbat Shalom all!!

Berean - :o)

EliYah - Are there any more questions or comments for YermeYah?

jitm - other than to say thank you, no

TrustInYah - so what do yall do tomorrow?

TrustInYah - thank Yahweh

QuikSilver - None here......but, I am a Seventh Day Adventist & must retire early so as 2 meet Sabbath School in the morning...

Berean - Yermeyah?

YermeYah - k

BrGreg - Shabbat Shalom Quik :)

Berean - concerning blood

bblman - Yahweh bless you, and keep you. Yahweh make his face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you. Yahweh lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace. QuikSilver

TrustInYah - submit it on Form 4238

jitm - thanks and praise and glory be to YHWH

Berean - does that apply to fish?....or chicken

YermeYah - Shalom Quicksilver

QuikSilver - It has been very informative & I thank U...

QuikSilver - LOL YermeYah

YermeYah - it applies to chicken, but not fish

Berean - as in kosher slaughtering

TrustInYah - How many people have a Kosher meat market in their area?

QuikSilver - Take care all, & may God bless...

BrGreg - I dont know if there is or not :\

Wags - Shabbat Shalom Sandman

BrGreg - Shalom sandman :)

sandman - whoa, full house, greetings all

YermeYah - Shabbat Shalom sandman

jitm - how will the governments new ploicy on eradiated meat effect kosher

TrustInYah - do you really believe there isn't an atom of blood in Kosher meat?

bblman - Welcome back sandman

sandman - straining at gnats again I see :-)

QuikSilver - ___

QuikSilver - ___/ /__

QuikSilver - /__ ___/

Tom-Dwayne - No K market in Ft Wayne

QuikSilver - / /

QuikSilver - /__/

TrustInYah - that's my point

Berean - camel is not kosher either

YermeYah - If the animal is slaghtered correctly, it is fit in YHWH's eyes

TrustInYah - and what is correctly?

YermeYah - Well

Berean - without kosher-by salt ?

TrustInYah - do not the slaughter houses slaughter correctly?

jitm - the new policy will use nuke waste

YermeYah - to cut the juggular vein and allow the animal to bleed to death

Wags - even if it is an animal that neither splits the hoof or chews its cud?

YermeYah - No

YermeYah - that makes it unkosher

TrustInYah - D'vorah went thru a long thing once about how sharp the knife had to be

YermeYah - Yes

BrGreg - +2cor 6 17

TrustInYah - thanks greg

BrGreg - Shalom Greenberg :)

EliYah - Shabbat Shalom Greenberg :)

TrustInYah - how bout a tune

EliYah - Are there any more questions or comments for YermeYah?

BrGreg - :)

TrustInYah - who's eaten out lately?

TrustInYah - hehe, you're lucky I have that one

EliYah - I haven't

BrGreg - :) \o/

bblman - me

Wags - I have, but I don't eat any flesh :-)

Berean - Shechitah

EliYah - Are there any prayer requests tonite?

TrustInYah - I wish I had all the time I need to do everything perfectly

TrustInYah - I have so much to do that getting dinner ready at night, homework done, and kids in bed is almost miraculous

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