Transcript of Sabbath Meeting - 02/19/99

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Berean - Our Father, Almighty Creator

Berean - we thank You for this fellowship, and this Sabbath day of rest

Berean - Father, we thank You for this opportunity to gather, and learn from Your word, and to edify each other, and to grow closer to You

Berean - we ask Father, that you cleanse our hearts, and open our eyes and ears, that we may learn from You

Berean - Father, we ask, that you watch over us, and guide us, that You reach down, and cleanse and heal us, Father, help us draw closer to You this day

Berean - ThankYou Father, for the teaching, and we ask Father, that in all our actions, in all things, that your will be done

Berean - we ask this, in Yahshua's Name

Berean - HalleluYah!

EliYah's message:

HalleluYah!!
Some of you certainly know what I am about to share tonite but perhaps some of you may not.
For those that know, I hope this will help to solidify your conviction.
For those that do not know, please consider the scriptures shared.
Tonite I would like to share with you what I believe that The Heavenly Father has shown me to be very very important
There is a certain scripture given that asks an question:

Proverbs 30:4 - Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

Yes, I think that this asks a very important question.
All throughout scripture, names are lifted up as having importance.
They had meanings
Those who named things had authority over who or what was being named...
For Instance, Adam named the animals

Genesis 2:20 - And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

And his wife

Genesis 2:23 - And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Our Father renamed Abram

Genesis 17:5 - Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

And the Savior renamed Simon

John 1:42 - And he brought him to Yahushua. And when Yahushua beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.

The Savior was given a name by the Heavenly Father through an angel to Miriam/Mary

Matthew 1:21 - And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Yahushua : for he shall save his people from their sins.

But the Heavenly Father named Himself since there is none greater!

Isaiah 42:8 - I am YAHWEH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Now, I ask..should man rename Yahweh?
Do we have authority over Him? To rename Him??
Surely we can't..but MEN have attempted to rename Him!
Particularly in our common translated scriptures...
When we see "The Lord" in the Old Testament, the Hebrew reads YAHWEH
Those who translated the scriptures took liberty to rename our Heavenly Father!
But because of tradition, this has come about..not by divine commandment!
Here is a quote from the Revised Standard Version Preface:
5 "the use of any proper name for the one and only God, as though there were other gods from whom He had to be
distinguished, was discontinued in Judaism before the Christian era and is entirely inappropriate for the universal faith of
the Christian Church"
But who are they to decide what is appropriate for one's faith?
Their job was to translate, not decide what we are to believe!
This statement is a sad commentary of how far some have gone from the scriptures.
Not only do they say why they have chosen to replace Yahweh's name with a title of their choosing but they also state that 'use of any proper name...is entirely inappropriate!'
Amazing! Who invented the idea of having a name of our Creator? Is it not Yahweh Himself?
Is Yahweh also 'entirely inappropriate' for placing His name there in scripture over 6000 times?
Are they saying indeed that the one whom they claim to worship is 'entirely inappropriate' for placing His name there?
They say it is 'entirely inappropriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church.' Why have a different substitution for the name "Yahweh" in each language? Would it not be more 'universal' to use ONE NAME?
Yahweh has said:

Mala 1:11a For from the rising of the sun, even to its going down, My name shall be great among the Gentiles..

Why have they falsified our Creator's name and condemned Yahweh for putting it there originally?

Mark 7:9 - And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of YAHWEH, that ye may keep your own tradition.

A familiar trend continues
But the commandment tells us not to take His name in vain.
Many take the third commandment to mean that we should not curse Yahweh's name.
It certainly does mean this!!
However it also means that we should not replace His name with a substitute such as "the Lord"

Deuteronomy 5:11 - Thou shalt not take the name of YAHWEH thy Elohim in vain: for YAHWEH will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

This translation is based on the King James Version.
The original Hebrew word used that is translated "Vain" in this verse is 'Shav'
This is an interesting word
This Hebrew word "Shav" means desolating, vain, vanity, or falsehood.
Now if you had a Hebrew bible, then you could look here in these same ten commandments where you would find this same Hebrew word a few verses later
'Shav' in this verse is translated differently:

Deuteronomy 5:20 - Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Here we have the same Hebrew word "shav" translated 'false'!
Now what have people done to Yahweh's name?
It has been falsified!
His name has been taken out of the way thereby making it vain. The third commandment could easily be translated "Thou shalt not falsify the name of Yahweh thy Elohim: for Yahweh will not hold (him) guiltless that falsifies His name"
So if we want to keep the ten commandments, we should never replace Yahweh's name with a false one. Doing so would be breaking the third commandment.
Here is one example of such a falsification:
Isai 42:8 (NKJV) I am the Lord, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.
This is a false statement, His name is not "The Lord"
Now there are other ways to make His name vain also.
Those who bear and proclaim His name must walk in righteousness!!

Proverbs 30:8 - Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

Proverbs 30:9 - Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is YAHWEH? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my Elohim in vain.

When we do not walk in righteousness.. people will say "This is the people of Yahweh" and will associate His wonderful name with unrighteousness
So this is one way of taking His name in vain also!
So how did Yahweh's name get changed to "The Lord" ?
It seems to have began when some Jews began to hold the belief that His name is too awesome to be pronounced
Oh how I wished they would have hearkened unto scripture!

Proverbs 14:12 - There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

In the scriptures we are told to praise, exalt, bless, love, teach, preach, anoint, assemble, believe, give thanks, honor and call on His name, not remove it from our lips, hearts and writings!
The following is a quote from Easton's Bible Dictionary:
5 This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead.
So they began to replace His name with "Adonai" which in English means "Lord." And they eventually forbade speaking His name.
The only person permitted speaking His name was the High Priest on the Day of Atonement. But why did they choose a name meaning 'lord' ?
Could it be because many of them were influenced by another one named 'lord', namely "Baal"? I'm not sure..
But it seems no coincedence that the word "Baal" also means Lord.
What did EliYah the prophet say?

1Kings 18:21 - And EliYah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if YAHWEH be Elohim, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

But when EliYah called on the name of Yahweh and not "Lord", his voice was heard by Yahweh! Granted Baal is a different deity but we know that satan loves to 'muddy the waters!"
Now, what do the scriptures have to say about the name of our Creator and its importance to Him?

Micah 4:5 - For all people will walk every one in the name of his elohim, and we will walk in the name of YAHWEH our Elohim for ever and ever.

We are to walk in the name of YAHWEH, not another name.
Yahweh commands us that we call on His name

Joel 2:32 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YAHWEH shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as YAHWEH hath said, and in the remnant whom YAHWEH shall call.

So the scriptures say "whosoever shall call on the name of YAHWEH shall be delivered." It is not "the Lord" or any other substitution
like HaShem (meaning "The Name") or adonai or any other replacement for His name that man may invent. I'm not judging another's salvation here..ignorance Yahweh winks at but it is time to walk in truth!
Now what is the meaning of this word "Name"?
Some say that it only means "His person or character"
I agree that it does mean His person or character, but there is certainly more
The Hebrew word that is translated "Name" is "Shem"
Here is the Strong's lexicon definition of "Shem"
"Strong's # 8034 Shem; a primitive word [perhaps rather from 7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare 8064]; an appellation, AS A MARK or memorial of individuality"
As can be seen from the above definition, Yahweh's name is not only represents His character but the Name Yahweh is also HIS MARK!
The Name YAHWEH also is His memorial of individuality. This definition goes hand in hand with scripture:

Exodus 3:15 - And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YAHWEH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

It is His 'memorial unto all generations.'
Think about this...
Man has set up many memorials for himself. What if someone had gone up and desecrated one of those memorials?
Yahweh has set up His memorial to ALL Generations.. Yahweh is His name forever
Some may ask..."Why has Yahweh allowed His name to be hidden?
I believe that it is one of many truths that Yahweh has hidden

Proverbs 25:2 - It is the glory of Elohim to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Let's look at more scripture
Scripture is the ultimate test of truth

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Psalms 105:1 - O give thanks unto YAHWEH; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people.

Psalms 116:13 - I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of YAHWEH.

Psalms 116:17 - I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon the name of YAHWEH.

Isaiah 12:4 - And in that day shall ye say, Praise YAHWEH, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.

Now some might say that they have called on His name and have noticed no difference in how a prayer was answered.
Some might say that they have noticed no difference after they started keeping the Sabbath or started observing the feast days or any other of Yahweh's commandments.
But truly, the testimony of thousands would declare the opposite! Even if this is the case, let's examine the example in the book of Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 44:15 - Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other elohim, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,

Jeremiah 44:16 - As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of YAHWEH, we will not hearken unto thee.

Jeremiah 44:17 - But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

Jeremiah 44:18 - But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.

What does this teach us?
It shows us that even when a troublesome situation arises after walking in the truth, this does not mean that we aren't walking in truth!!
The way into eternal life is NOT following the path of the least resistance!!
In fact, we are told that we will encounter resistance for His name's sake

Luke 21:16 - And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

Luke 21:17 - And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

If we desire to walk in the truth, we must be prepared to give our life for it!
The most truthful, righteous man who ever lived was on the earth about 2000 years ago and they hung Him on a tree!
Now here is an interesting scripture... It speaks of the end times. Who will call on His name? His people!

Zechariah 13:9 - And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YAHWEH is my Elohim.

And here again:

Malachi 3:16 - Then they that feared YAHWEH spake often one to another: and YAHWEH hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared YAHWEH, and that thought upon his name.

Malachi 3:17 - And they shall be mine, saith YAHWEH of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Malachi 3:18 - Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth Elohim and him that serveth him not.

And to the Philadelphia Assembly it was said..

Revelations 3:8 - "I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name.

Never once in the scriptures are we told to Hide His name...but rather to PROCLAIM it!

Psalms 34:3 - O magnify YAHWEH with me, and let us exalt his name together.

Psalms 148:13 - Let them praise the name of YAHWEH: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

Psalms 44:8 - In Elohim we boast all the day long, and praise thy name for ever. Selah.

His people wear His name..

Revelations 14:1 - Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.

What name is this? Surely we must know. And we "Must" proclaim it in righteousness.
I believe that we have an opportunity my brethren. For the world does not know His name as given by HIM
And now we can proclaim it in righteousness.. not mixed with the paganism but in total purity!
We must take this call VERY seriously!
How we live our lives will determine how the world views "Yahweh"
Will we stand firm?
Will we indeed have the faith the Yahshua is looking for?
And will we answer the call to Repent!?!?!?
I pray so..
Consider the example that Yahweh left us
When the children of Israel were scattered

Ezekiel 36:17 - Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

Ezekiel 36:18 - Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:

Ezekiel 36:19 - And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

Ezekiel 36:20 - And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of YAHWEH, and are gone forth out of his land.

Ezekiel 36:21 - But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

Ezekiel 36:22 - Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Master YAHWEH; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

Ezekiel 36:23 - And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am YAHWEH, saith the Master YAHWEH, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Ezekiel 36:24 - For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Ezekiel 36:25 - Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

Ezekiel 36:26 - A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Ezekiel 36:27 - And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Ezekiel 36:28 - And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your Elohim.

All because Yahweh has concern for His Holy/Kodesh Name!
I pray that we will answer the call..sanctify ourselves..go out from among them!
And be seperate/holy! We will be blessed, we can be assured....
we will be blessed because of the name we proclaim.

Psalms 118:26 - Blessed be he that cometh in the name of YAHWEH: we have blessed you out of the house of YAHWEH.

And for His name's sake into righteousness we will be lead:

Psalms 23:3 - He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

If the scriptures convict you to call on His name, consider His mercy:

Psalms 79:8 - O remember not against us former iniquities: let thy tender mercies speedily prevent us: for we are brought very low.

Psalms 79:9 - Help us, O Elohim of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.

For when we are lead into atonement and righteousness for His name's sake....then also into eternal life.
Let's take the cup that He has given us....and drink

Psalms 116:12 - What shall I render unto YAHWEH for all his benefits toward me?

Psalms 116:13 - I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of YAHWEH.

May Yahweh bless you all!

End

Ebed - ================ PRAISE YAHWEH!! ================

Dorota - HalleluYah, Praise YahweH,

DelaYah - HalleluYAH!!

cleve - I can give you this mystery in bites that are edible. You have no enemy.

BrPoet - \0/\0/\0/HalleluYah\0/\0/\0/

Berean - \O/\0/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Praise YAHWEH!!

BrTom - HalleluYAH!!

DelaYah - Thank You Father!!

didactic - YAHWEH is my Elohim!

JamesTrimm - toda for another well done drash

didactic - Yahshua is my Elohim!

BrBill - HalleluYah! For the name Yahweh!

BrPoet - Thank you EliYah fr a great message

didactic - HalleluYAH

EliYah - Praise Yahweh!

Dorota - Thank you Father for your Son and may Saviour Yahshua

BrPoet - Praise Yahweh

jtdal - wonderfully spoken brother

BrPoet - Shabbatt Shalom Hanna

ylisha2 - thankyou EliYah

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Saly - Great Message,, HALLELUYAH!

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April - Is it time for questions, EliYah?

Hannah - Sabbath Shalom brothers and sisters

Dorota - very meaningfull, yes EliYah His people must walk in truth

Berean - Shabbat Shalom Hannah

EliYah - If there are any questions or added comments, please do

ylisha2 - Peace to you too

Tmac - Sorry I'm late....did I miss a good message?

BrPoet - yep

BrBill - Sure did.

Dorota - Please pray for all those who do not understand how wonderfull it is to know His name

Berean - +deu 32 4

ylisha2 - yes it was great

cleve - The law is righteous and perfect all together. Then why did we need a second covenant? Who is it that was acursed for practicing the ways of Yah deceitfully. Cursed be he that hangs on a tree

Saly - You sure did Tmac. glad you are here!

JamesTrimm - There was a pagan god named Adon or Adonai from which we get Adonus (Apollo) and Odin.

April - EliYah, I believe that Yahweh is the Father's name, but what did Yahushua call Him?

Tmac - I'll have to read it later

BrPoet - Father

EliYah - John 17:26 - And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Berean - +josh 24 14

didactic - cleve stop preaching a false gospel

Hannah - ~\o/~ Abba Father, we are adopted children and if that is all we call Him we are ok. Yahshau said Our Father when teaching us to pray. It is His name that we need to know for sure.

Joshua - The fact 'adonay is not acceptible to Yhwh as a circumcolution can be found in 1Ki 22:4-9.

Hannah - Adonay means the one with ultimate authority in ones life.

EliYah - There are many other scriptures supporting Yahshua's use of the name. http://www.eliyah.com/saidname.html

JamesTrimm - There is also a paper on Yeshua's use of the name at http://www.nazarene.net

Berean - +1sam 12 24

BrTom - Prayer request for John and Pat Shaw. He had triple bypass surgery and has needed two more operations in the few days since that. Pat is terribly worried, lonely, frightened. Long-time Sabbath keepers in Illinois.

Truth-C-Ker - are we having connection problems tonite?

EliYah - Seems there are problems here and there Tmac

Truth-C-Ker - I keep getting booted

BrPoet - I've been kicked off twice

BrPoet - you heard from caleb berean

ylisha2 - the hospitals are a very scary place but Yahweh can be there too, He saved me and my son there, we will pray for his safety

BrBill - HalleluYah!

EliYah - Are there any more prayer requests?

Prayer Service Witheld..

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