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Watchman555

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posted 04-16-2007 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Watchman555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shalom Naesimo,


quote:

by Naesimo:

People keep asking me questions like would I refuse surgery or if I had to eat a ham sandwich or starve what would I do? I say I don't want to eat a ham sandwich but they say to choose to starve is "suicide" and you can't repent for "suicide".


MattithYahu 4:2
2 And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.

We could probably make it 40 days.

MattithYahu 4:3-4
3 And the trier came and said to Him, If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.4 But He answering, said, It has been written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of Yahuah.

Perhaps the ones that say you will starve and that say you will be committing suicide have another agenda?

1 Kings 17:2-6
2 And the word of Yahuah came to him, saying, 3 Go away from here and turn eastward, and hide by the wadi Kerith, which flows into the Yarden. 4 And it shall be that you drink from the stream, and I shall command the ravens to feed you there. 5 And he went and did according to the word of Yahuah, for he went and dwelt by the wadi Kerith, which flows into the Yarden. 6 And the ravens brought him bread and meat in the morning, and bread and meat in the evening, and he drank from the stream.

Yahuchanon 4:31-35
31 But in the meantime His taught ones were asking Him, saying, Rabbi, eat.
32 And He said to them, I have food to eat of which you do not know. 33 Then the taught ones said to each other, Did anyone bring Him food to eat? 34 Yahusha said to them, My food is to do the desire of Him who sent Me, and to
accomplish His work.

Yahuah did and can again use whatever means necessary to bring us the sustenance we need to survive in the physical.

1 Corinthians 10:13
13 No trial has overtaken you except such as is common to man, and Elohim is trustworthy, who shall not allow you to be tried beyond what you are able, but with the trial shall also make the way of escape, enabling you to bear it.

If we are faithful to Him, He will be faithful to us. And even if we did die from not eating because the 'only thing around was unclean' then perhaps we would be fulfilling this:

Revelation 2:10b
Be trustworthy until death, and I shall give you the crown of life.

Maybe if someone were to say to you that you would intentionally be committing suicide for not eating unclean you could quote that verse to them. What about Stephen? What about the taught-ones? You know, if only they had kept their mouths shut they wouldn't have been persecuted unto death, would someone dare say that was suicide? Yahuah forbid!! They did what was right and followed the commands of Elohim and the witness of Yahusha followed them to the grave. HalleluYAH! All this, in our way of thinking, would apply to the surgery as well, Yahuah has provided a way out, His Great Son, the Great Physician Yahusha. We imagine after some of the beatings the taught-ones took they probably needed some surgical attention!

Watchman555 & Chayil

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naesimo

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posted 04-17-2007 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naesimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everybody,

Has anyone ever heard of Esau corn? I'm assuming corn is clean but why would anyone name a kind of corn after Esau? When offered this corn I said you mean Esau like Jacob's cursed brother? They said I guess so and I said no I'm not eating anything named after Esau. So then later people acted like that was over reacting and said I should've eaten the Esau corn so I could've witnessed to my family. I thought this corn maybe genetically modified or cursed or something like that so I refused to eat it. I would like to get second opinions on this. Even AdoniYah thought I was overreacting. This could tie in with why people around here think I'm psycho. If you all think I'm psycho you can say so, I admit I am confused. AdoniYah said I could ask ya'll.
Mat 12:3 But He said to them, Have you not read what Dawiḏ did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him:
Mat 12:4 how he went into the House of Elohim and ate the showbread which was not right for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests?
Mat 12:5 Or did you not read in the Torah that on the Sabbath the priests in the Set-apart Place profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?
Mat 12:6 But I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the Set-apart Place.
Mat 12:7 And if you had known what this means, I desire compassion and not offering, you would not have condemned the blameless.
We need help interpretting what is in bold.

Shalom,
Naesimo

I'd also seen this and it made me uncomfortable about corn. Also, I had wondered about the part when it said:
Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the EARS OF CORN, and to eat.
Mat 12:1 At that time went through the grain fields on the Sabbath. And His taught ones were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain, to eat.

Back then I was reading the KJV and thought this "ears of corn" was weird. Research said that all grain was called corn back then. But it seemed weird to call it an "ear". And I also wondered how could they eat the grain uncooked??? Research I did showed even soft wheat has to be boiled but truly this is something I don't know about much. I asked could the rolling in the hands be removing silk?

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squartucci

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quote:
Originally posted by naesimo:
Everybody,

I thought this corn maybe genetically modified or cursed or something like that so I refused to eat it. I would like to get second opinions on this.
...
This could tie in with why people around here think I'm psycho. If you all think I'm psycho you can say so, I admit I am confused. AdoniYah said I could ask ya'll.
Shalom,
Naesimo

Back then I was reading the KJV and thought this "ears of corn" was weird. Research said that all grain was called corn back then. But it seemed weird to call it an "ear". And I also wondered how could they eat the grain uncooked??? Research I did showed even soft wheat has to be boiled but truly this is something I don't know about much. I asked could the rolling in the hands be removing silk?

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Shalom Naesimo

I would not want to presume too much about you personally from one post but your phraseology about being psycho prompted me to respond.
So if it fits personally, so be it, but if not feel free to disregard.

you wrote:

quote:

I thought this corn maybe genetically modified or cursed or something like that so I refused to eat it. I would like to get second opinions on this.


It is hard to tell from this phrase if you were in fear or wisdom?
or
If the Ruach HaKodesh was leading you and you were trying to figure out why He would tell you not to eat it?
Or you just watch and read too much worldy knowledge?
Or scared of EVERYTHING?

I know that in my past I thought fear was my friend and guardian against all things harmful but I could not reconcile that to the scriptures and the multitude of exhortations to "Fear Not".
Fear disguised himself as caution, practicality, reason, knowledge and good common sense in order to stay in my life and avoid being seen as the destructive traitor.
People would say "Fear is what keeps you from walking out in front of a bus"
One day I realized - Wisdom and knowledge is what keeps me from stepping in front of a bus NOT fear.
I was putting my trust in FEAR to lead me,guide me and protect me.
The only place fear will drive you is CRAZY!PSYCHO!

YHWH leads in shalom (peace)
Psa 4:8 I lie down in peace altogether, and sleep; For You alone, O YHWH, make me dwell in safety.
Psa 29:11 YHWH gives strength to His people; YHWH blesses His people with peace.

We may be very sharp and intelligent but without the shalom of YHWH which surpasses all understanding to guide and guard us we will become lost, confused and deceived.

Phi 4:7 And the peace of Elohim, which surpasses all understanding, shall guard your hearts and minds through Messiah YHUShO.

Col 2:8 See to it that no one makes a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary matters of the world,and not according to Messiah.

Col 2:20 If, then, you died with Messiah from the elementary matters of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations:
Col 2:21 Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle
Col 2:22 which are all to perish with use according to the commands and teachings of men? (Note: commands and teachings of men, not of Elohim.)
Col 2:23 These indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed worship, humiliation and harsh treatment of the body of no value at all, only for satisfaction of the flesh.

As a general rule - anything done in fear is suspect (I would like to use bolder language but to avoid distraction, I will leave it at "suspect")

Scripture without Spirit

I think that life in the scriptures that lacks the wisdom and discernment and prudence of the Spirit will lead to very strange behaviors.

Simply because the scriptures SEEM so contradictory or confusing without the Spiritual understanding to divide or dissect.

Just ONE instance, How do we know if we are to go or stay?
GO
Mat 28:19 Therefore, go and make taught ones of all the nations, immersing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Set-apart Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to guard all that I have commanded you. And see, I am with you always, until the end of the age. Amĕn.

Mar 13:10 And the gospel must first be preached among all nations

STAY
Tit 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1Th 4:11 And that you study to be quiet, and to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

1Ti 5:13 And at the same time they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but gossips also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
1Ti 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, rule the house, give no occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

ALL these scriptures are valid and true and applicable but it is obvious one cannot go and stay at the same time.
-So wisdom needs to lead.(Psa 25:5 Lead me in Your truth and teach me, For You are the Elohim of my deliverance; On You I wait all the day.)
-Wisdom never uses fear to lead and there is a difference between fearing YHWH and being in fear. (Exo 20:20 And Mosheh said to the people, Do not fear, for Elohim has come to prove you, and in order that His fear be before you, so that you do not sin.)
-Wisdom comes from inside (Psa 51:6 See, You have desired truth in the inward parts, And in the hidden part You make me know wisdom.)

Plenty of people (in jails, psycho wards and the streets too) can spew scriptures by the full chapters but it lacks spirit and power in their lives.

Jam 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good life his works with meekness of wisdom.

Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the Torah are righteous in the sight of Elohim, but the doers of the law shall be declared right.
Footnote: 1Mt. 7:21-27, James 2:14-24.

In my opinion, NOTHING messes people up more than scriptures or religion without Ruach Elohim.

Shalom
Sharon

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naesimo

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posted 04-18-2007 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naesimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sharon,

I'm not offended by anything you posted. Or if you think I'm "psycho" that doesn't offend me either. Just say so, that's all. See I do better when things are just stripped down and just plainly spoken. Really candy coating confuses me. I like feedback, good or bad, it is info and as long as someone is truthful I enjoy honesty.

I didn't eat the Esau corn mainly because I'd seen research at the time about transgenetic animals and like mutated things. I saw where a sheep gives milk with spider silk in it. If memory serves me awhile back some corn chips were made with somekind of genetically engineered corn and it was controversial. So really I just said why would someone pick Esau for a name of a "corn type" of all names (truly a corny name for corh eh?). Like if I was going to make peanut butter I wouldn't name it "Baal's Best Peanut Butter". I'm saying it's not the best marketing campaign, see what I mean? I can't label it fear or Ruach it just seemed like some kind of "common sense" or Esau corn just didn't sound appetizing. Like red hot dogs instead of Hebrew National. Does anyone know if those are kosher? I don't want to assume cause you know what they say about that LOL.

Shalom,
Naesimo

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squartucci

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Shalom naesimo

quote:

Sharon,
I'm not offended by anything you posted. Or if you think I'm "psycho" that doesn't offend me either. Just say so, that's all. See I do better when things are just stripped down and just plainly spoken. Really candy coating confuses me. I like feedback, good or bad, it is info and as long as someone is truthful I enjoy honesty.

Glad to know more about you!
I wasn't trying to candy coat just REALLY don't have enough info to label you "psycho" even if it was my place to do so.

If I was to make a general opinion - from what I see in alot of people around me then I would guess that you lack spiritual leading and depend heavily upon worldly knowledge or common sense.That's not exactly psycho and actually quite common from my observances.

But what do I know?

I will try to remember to strip down and speak plainly.

Good thing you can't see me stripped down.LOL

ROTF LOL

Shalom
Sharon

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naesimo

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posted 04-18-2007 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naesimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sharon,

quote:
I wasn't trying to candy coat just REALLY don't have enough info to label you "psycho" even if it was my place to do so.

Okay.

quote:
If I was to make a general opinion - from what I see in alot of people around me then I would guess that you lack spiritual leading and depend heavily upon worldly knowledge or common sense. That's not exactly psycho and actually quite common from my observances.

But what do I know?


If you think I lack spiritual leading then there really isn't anything I can do about it. Try to remember everyone has a different level, so why do you say "But what do I know" like I'm implying I know more than you or something? Or just tell me plainly what you mean by "But what do I know?"

So if I don't measure up to your level of spiritual leading why can't it be that this is what Yahweh has given me and I try to do the best with what I have been given. If you call making a decision about what I eat because of scientific info: "relying heavily upon wordly knowlege or common sense" then there's nothing I can really do about that either. Plus: I said the name didn't make the corn sound appetizing.

quote:
I will try to remember to strip down and speak plainly.

Todah, I appreciate it! See, I have only studied a year.

quote:
Good thing you can't see me stripped down. LOL

Okay.

Shalom,
Naesimo

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Shalom naesimo

quote:

If you think I lack spiritual leading then there really isn't anything I can do about it. Try to remember everyone has a different level, so why do you say "But what do I know" like I'm implying I know more than you or something? Or just tell me plainly what you mean by "But what do I know?"

I'm not sure how you are reading my posts but something is NOT coming across right.
I imagine you do know more about YOU than I do and I meant literally what do I know about you?
I understand that we are all on different levels and I cannot evaluate the level anyone else is on without a little interaction.
I can adjust for different levels or personalities after I get to know you but it takes a little time.
I always assume the best of people when they come in here that they know where they are, that they are here to learn and not asking questions they don't really want answered.

quote:

So if I don't measure up to your level of spiritual leading why can't it be that this is what Yahweh has given me and I try to do the best with what I have been given.

I am sure you are doing the best with what you have been given but do you resent someone encouraging you in a better way?

First of all, it is not MY level of spiritual leading it is YHWH's
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of Elohim, these are sons of Elohim.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. And these are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you desire to do.
Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under Torah.

There is not really a 'level' of spiritual leading. Either you do or you don't.
It is a requirement of being a child of elohim.
One does become more reliant and trusting of the Spirit of truth if you want to call that attaining 'levels' but they do have to start somewhere.

I started out asking him trivial but impotant stuff to me, like where did I leave my car keys. When my answers came I would analyze where that info came from in order to discern his small still voice and ways.

quote:

If you call making a decision about what I eat because of scientific info: "relying heavily upon wordly knowlege or common sense" then there's nothing I can really do about that either.

Yes, that's what I call ""relying heavily upon wordly knowlege or common sense"
Scientific info can be interesting if YHWH's word correlates but letting it be truth will lead to disappointment

Psa 118:8 It is better to take refuge in YHWH Than to trust in man.

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. And these are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you desire to do.
Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under Torah.

And yes there is something you can do about it. You can ask.
I had hoped to encourage you to ask YHWH to show you what it means to be led of the spirit. It is a shame for people to frustrate themselves in trying to figure it all out and all they had to do was ask YHWH to show them.

Shalom
Sharon

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naesimo

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Hey Sharon,

quote:
If I was to make a general opinion - from what I see in alot of people around me then I would guess that you lack spiritual leading and depend heavily upon worldly knowledge or common sense. That's not exactly psycho and actually quite common from my observances.
But what do I know?

See, it's the "placement" of the But what do I know? that led to my conclusion. I guess it's a simple misunderstanding.

Tit 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1Th 4:11 And that you study to be quiet, and to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

1Ti 5:13 And at the same time they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but gossips also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
1Ti 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, rule the house, give no occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

Are you a married woman? Do you think a woman should be quiet? Truly I'll be glad when my husband gets home so I can ask him questions too.

1Pe 4:8 And above all have fervent love for one another, because love covers a great number of sins.
1Pe 4:9 Welcome one another without grumbling.
1Pe 4:10 As each one has received a gift, serve one another, as good trustees of the manifold favour of Elohim.
1Pe 4:11 If anyone speaks, let it be as the Words of Elohim. If anyone serves, let it be as with the strength which Elohim provides, so that Elohim might be praised in it all through Messiah, to whom belong the esteem and the rule forever and ever. Amĕn.

1Co 12:4 And there are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 There are different kinds of services, but the same Master.
1Co 12:6 And there are different kinds of workings, but it is the same Elohim who is working all in all.
1Co 12:7 And to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for profiting,
1Co 12:8 for to one is given a word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another a word of knowledge according to the same Spirit,
1Co 12:9 and to another belief by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the same Spirit,
1Co 12:10 and to another operations of powers, and to another prophecy, and to another discerning of spirits, and to another kinds of tongues, and to another interpretation of tongues.
1Co 12:11 But one and the same Spirit works all these, distributing to each one individually as He intends.
1Co 12:12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is the Messiah.
1Co 12:13 For indeed by one Spirit we were all immersed into one body, whether Yehuḏim or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Co 12:14 For indeed the body is not one member but many.
1Co 12:15 If the foot says, Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body, does it therefore not belong to the body?
1Co 12:16 And if the ear says, Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body, does it therefore not belong to the body?
1Co 12:17 If all the body was an eye, where would be the hearing? If all hearing, where would be the smelling?
1Co 12:18 But now Elohim has set the members, each one of them, in the body, even as He pleased.
1Co 12:19 And if they all had been one member, where would the body be?
1Co 12:20 And now, there are indeed many members, but one body.
1Co 12:21 And an eye is unable to say to the hand, I have no need of you, or again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
1Co 12:22 But much rather, those members of the body which are thought to be weaker are necessary.
1Co 12:23 And to those of the body which we think to be less respected, these we present greater respect. And our unseemly members have greater seemliness,
1Co 12:24 whereas our seemly members have no need. But Elohim blended together the body, having given greater respect to that member which lacks it,
1Co 12:25 that there should be no division in the body, but that the members should have the same concern one for another.
1Co 12:26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is esteemed, all the members rejoice with it.
1Co 12:27 And you are a body of Messiah, and members individually.
1Co 12:28 And Elohim has appointed these in the assembly: firstly emissaries, secondly prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, ministrations, kinds of tongues.
1Co 12:29 Are all emissaries? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles?
1Co 12:30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
1Co 12:31 But earnestly seek the better gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

Maybe I'm just part of the little toe but that's okay. I will pray and ask ya'll to pray for me for a better gift. I wish I could wash your feet, perhaps someday I'll be given that opportunity!

Shalom, Love, Todah
Naesimo

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shalom naesimo

quote:

Are you a married woman? Do you think a woman should be quiet? Truly I'll be glad when my husband gets home so I can ask him questions too.


Yes I am a married woman. 22 years.

Past the younger women stage
1Ti 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, rule the house, give no occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
I am done bearing children (if YHWH wills) but I still have one 13 year old at home whom I home-school.I became a very delighted grandmother this year.

So I am approaching the older women stage :
Tit 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becomes holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
Tit 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sensible, to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.


Yes, I believe a woman should be quiet but not how most people interpret it.

Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of Elohim of great price.

In the context of scriptures - to be quiet means to be at peace.
Have shalom.
We ALL are to be quiet
1Th 4:11 And that you study to be quiet, and to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

Ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

Ecc 9:17 The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that rules among fools.

A woman should not be clamoring or contentious but having a quiet and meek demeanor that comes from true shalom in her heart.

And true shalom comes from trust in YHWH with ALL her heart and having nor entertaining ANY fear.

1Jo 4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear holds punishment, and he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

When we love YHWH like he loves us we will be made perfect in love.

1Pe 3:1 In the same way, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that if any are disobedient to the Word, they, without a word, might be won by the behaviour of their wives,
1Pe 3:2 having seen your blameless behaviour in fear.
1Pe 3:3 Your adornment should not be outward arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on dresses
1Pe 3:4 but the hidden Man of the heart, with the incorruptible ornament of a meek and peaceable spirit, which is of great value before Elohim.
1Pe 3:5 For in this way, in former times, the set-apart women who trusted in Elohim also adorned themselves, being subject to their own husbands,
1Pe 3:6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him master, of whom you became children, doing good, and not frightened by any fear.

I have not yet attained this perfect state but pressing in hard!
I learn my lessons and take them serious with a pure heart. That's all I can do. Just learn what YHWH is teaching me specifically and learn with JOY.

Phi 3:12 Not that I have already received, or already been perfected, but I press on, to lay hold of that for which Messiah has also laid hold of me.
Phi 3:13 Brothers, I do not count myself to have laid hold of it yet, but only this: forgetting what is behind and reaching out for what lies ahead,
Phi 3:14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of Elohim in Messiah .
Phi 3:15 As many, then, as are perfect, should have this mind. And if you think differently in any respect, Elohim shall also reveal this to you.
Phi 3:16 But to what we have already attained walk by the same rule, be of the same mind.

Shalom
Sharon

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quote:

by Sharon
am done bearing children (if YHWH wills) but I still have one 13 year old at home whom I home-school.I became a very delighted grandmother this year.

So I am approaching the older women stage :
Tit 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becomes holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
Tit 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sensible, to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.


Hey, we have more in common than 'just' Yahuah....

I still have two at home (15 & 13) and I homeschool and....

I just became a very delighted grandmother this year:

http://www.yahuahreigns.com/images/babyface.jpg

She was born the first high day of Unleavened Bread - halleluYAH!

Shalom,

Chayil

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naesimo

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posted 04-19-2007 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naesimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sharon,

I've been married 14 years and I don't know what age is still considered the "younger" woman stage.

1Th 4:11 And that you study to be quiet, and to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
Could you please go into further detail what is the meaning of this?

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A woman should not be clamoring or contentious but having a quiet and meek demeanor that comes from true shalom in her heart.

Have you always done this in your posts? I have tried to apologize to people here for becoming puffed up and blaspheming and embarassing my husband.

Why do you keep bringing up fear? What is it that you think I'm afraid of?
1Pe 3:6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him master, of whom you became children, doing good, and not frightened by any fear.

Is your husband on this board? We can't have kids so maybe that puts a damper on my redemption. Thank Yahweh the weekend is here and my husband and I can spend some time together and hopefully he can help me have understanding. I appreciate the time and effort you have taken but it truly seems like the only one who understands me and has patience with me is him. So thanks for the advice. I don't want to come across as inappropriate but I prefer to be taught by men and I also like having male friends. I have probably had more male friends than female because with women it always seems to get catty/gossipy. If any man has felt I have acted irresponsibly by asking him questions instead of my own husband I apologize. My husband works alot of hours and he doesn't have alot of time to ask other men of like minds questions so he doesn't mind if I do it but still if it is unscriptural I don't want to do it. I am "old fashioned" and don't like how men are portrayed in sitcoms and such like a dufus and the wife is the smart one. I like a sense of humor though. Even having said this I have failed as a wife many times. My husband has made mistakes but part of me being submissive is saying those mistakes were life lessons and you did the best you could and you'll do better next time. The man being head of household is a huge responsiblity and I don't mind taking a back seat. Maybe the wife teaches the man about forgiveness and the man teaches her about trust. Modern women IMO think they have the market cornered on understanding what "love" is but LOVE originated from a MAN. The greatest show of love ever came from a Man so to me men know more about love than any woman. And men know more about what makes a woman a woman than any "female". Make-up, jewelry, dresses, etc don't make me feel feminine but my husband and my marriage does. You can read magazines or whatever about love but if you want to know what love is ask a man. It's like missing the forest for the trees again, alot of women have love but they don't even realize it. So hopefully if nothing else (since people here don't know us well) atleast people will know that I never want to hurt or disappoint my husband on purpose. And I do try to please him and Yahweh to the best of my ability.

Shalom,
Naesimo

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squartucci

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posted 04-19-2007 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squartucci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shalom naeismo
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Have you always done this in your posts? I have tried to apologize to people here for becoming puffed up and blaspheming and embarassing my husband.


Done what?

Shalom
Sharon

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naesimo

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posted 04-19-2007 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naesimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sharon,

You were right, you and I seem to be misunderstanding one another. Our conversations seem to go in circles !!! So let's put it to a halt. As you said it takes time to get to know somebody's personality. Thanks for all your help and patience and I will try to not take my husband for granted so much and seek his help first from now on. I wish you nothing but peace and joy in your studies and relationship with Yahweh.

Blessings to you and yours,
Naesimo

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squartucci

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posted 04-19-2007 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squartucci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by naesimo:
Sharon,

You were right, you and I seem to be misunderstanding one another. Our conversations seem to go in circles !!! So let's put it to a halt. As you said it takes time to get to know somebody's personality. Thanks for all your help and patience and I will try to not take my husband for granted so much and seek his help first from now on. I wish you nothing but peace and joy in your studies and relationship with Yahweh.

Blessings to you and yours,
Naesimo


Shalom

I so agree! Let's take time to get to know one another and enjoy being sisters in YHUSHO.
Yes husbands are such a wonderful gift from YHWH and it took me many years to realize what a precious gift.
I wish you only YHWH's finest in EVERYTHING you pursue
Love & Shalom
Sharon

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squartucci

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posted 04-19-2007 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squartucci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chayil Ishshah:
Hey, we have more in common than 'just' Yahuah....

I still have two at home (15 & 13) and I homeschool and....

I just became a very delighted grandmother this year:

http://www.yahuahreigns.com/images/babyface.jpg

She was born the first high day of Unleavened Bread - halleluYAH!

Shalom,

Chayil


Shalom my sister Chayil

Your grandbaby is BEAUTIFUL.

I was so unprepared for the love that washed over me when I met my grandson!
People told me it was great and blah blah but I got steamrollered with a love so intense it scared me for a minute. My son and his wife said "You and Dad got a little weird for awhile"
But they sorta of understood when I told them how emotional it was for us.
Did anything strange happen for you when you met that angelic babyface?

If you want you can email me so everyone doesn't have to endure our granny chatter. squartucci@hotmail.com

Shalom
Sharon

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