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Yahwehwitnesses

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posted 01-02-2006 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yahwehwitnesses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shalom,

Over the years there have been serious concerns and questions in the many BAAL/Lord posts.

I found an Encyclopedia link HERE that will hopefully give us more understanding about this.

I don't agree with all the personal comments made within the above link, but the info therein is pretty good.

I strongly believe that it's wrong to use the title Lord for our Father Yahweh. We should declare his name at every opportunity.

Please read the scriptures below before clicking the link, and take to heart what is being said.

John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Hos 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith Yahweh, that thou shalt call me Ishi, and shalt call me no more Baali. 17 For I will take away the names of the Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be mentioned by their name.

Eze 39:And my holy name will I make known in the midst of my people Israel; neither will I suffer my holy name to be profaned any more: and the nations shall know that I am Yahweh, the Holy One in Israel.

ISA 12: 4 And in that day shall ye say, Give thanks unto Yahweh, call upon his name, declare his doings among the peoples, make mention that his name is exalted. 5 Sing unto Yahweh; for he hath done excellent things: let this be known in all the earth.

ISA 52:5 Now therefore, what do I here, saith Yahweh, seeing that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them do howl, saith Yahweh, and my name continually all the day is blasphemed. 6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak; behold, it is I.

HalleluYah means: {{ Praise YHWH }}

Yohanan

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Missy

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posted 01-02-2006 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yahwehwitnesses,

While I don't see the word Lord as being a negative word on it's own, I will say I would have to agree with you that Yahweh should be addressed with much more honor and respect than some common genric word like "Lord".

I think the casual way of treating Yahweh by calling him "Lord" is indicative of how some people respect him period in their lives. I didn't always think this way either. I just thought, "It's just a word".. but then I realized well what if someone was to call me something I didn't ask to be called. I mean I am like the Flash correcting someone if they even SPELL my name wrong... so if I place that much value on my name.. shouldn't I place even more value on the name of Elohim ?

Given, I don't like to critize people that do use terms like Lord.. I will say that if many people would just look at that as a first step it could open their spiritual door to a lot of wonderful blessings.

Excellent Scripture references by the way! Very edifying!

Shalom,
Missy

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squartucci

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posted 01-02-2006 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squartucci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I have posted on this site before, Why take the risk? Is it such a burdensome task to learn 3-4 words in Hebrew (His Name, His titles and His son's name)to avoid the risk of offending the Most High? Aren't most defenses of the using the terms that we highly suspect are pagan, really rooted in motives ranging from our personal traditions and comforts to anti-semitism against anything Jewish including the Hebrew language.

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Chashmal

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posted 01-02-2006 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chashmal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The title Adonai is actually the proper sequence of letters to address HaShem as Lord. With the Hebrew words, each letter contains tremendous spiritual energy and revelation which is the reason for the different ways to address God.

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Elyahc

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posted 01-02-2006 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elyahc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The word "" lord " and " god " is connected to the pagan Deity of Jupiter, and all the scriptures that YAHWEHSWITNESS gave shows YHWH=Yah's mind of His written word concerning this as He Commands in ( Exod.23:13; Joshua 23:7).

Also, as Missy said, think about it, if someone continually and on purpose called you a name that you did not like, and you tell them so about it, but they still keep calling you by that un-likeable name, how long will it be, untill you start avoiding that person because they purposely call you a name that you dis-like, even after you have told them about it???

No human person in their right mind will continually tolerate being called by a name that they dis-like, especially after you have told them so and to not call you that name, over and over about it, but they still keep doing it on purpose, you will avoid that person altogeter eventually will you not?.

Now think about just the few scriptures that YAHWEHSWITNESS gave concerning the Father Yah's written thoughts on the same, and when He says something more than ONCE, we had better take heed as to what He has written and said on the matter. Don't you think, or are you willing to stake your Eternal life on it ?

Elyahc= Eljah C.

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Elyahc

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posted 01-03-2006 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elyahc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also more scriptures to go along with what YAHWEHWITNESS wrote.

""Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O YAHWEH.""( Psalms 83:16)"".

""That men may know that thou, WHOSE NAME ALONE IS YAHWEH, art the most high over all the earth.( Psalms 83:18).

""If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.( 2 Chron.7:14).

16.""Then they that feared YAHWEH spake often one to another: and YAHWEH hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared YAHWEH, and that THOUGHT UPON HIS NAME.

17. And they shall be mine, saith YAHWEH of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.( Mal.3:16-17).""

Now let's see who YAHWEH'S Wrath( or The LAST PLAQUES) is poured out upon.

"""5 How long, YAHWEH? wilt thou be angry for ever? shall thy jealousy burn like fire?

6 POUR OUT THY WRATH( the Plaques, see Rev.11:18)upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms THAT HAVE NOT CALLED UPON THY NAME.

7 For they have devoured Jacob, and laid waste his dwelling place.""( Psalms 79:6-7)

"""25 Pour out thy fury( Wrath=The Plaques, See Rev.11:18) upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families THAT CALL NOT ON THY NAME: for they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate."""( Jer.10:25).

"""18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, AND THEM THAT FEAR THY NAME, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."""( Rev.11:18).

Now who is it that His Wrath or Plaques is poured out upon, and THAT CALL NOT UPON THY(His) NAME OF YAH?

Also, who are those who get their reward, AND THEM THAT FEAR THY NAME of YAH( Psalms 68:4)??

"""24.And call ye on the name of your gods, and I( Eliyahu) WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF YAHWEH: and the EL that answereth by fire, let him be EL. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.

25. And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal( ie lord), Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; AND CALL ON THE NAME OF YOUR GODS, but put no fire under.

26. And THEY( the Baal=LORD prophets) took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, AND CALLED ON THE NAME OF BAAL( ie LORD) from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal( lord), hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made
( 1 Kings 18:24-26).

What NAME did Eliyahu the Prophet CALL UPON ?

What NAME did the Prophets of BAAL( LORD) CALL UPON ?

""" 32. And it shall come to pass, that WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL ON THE NAME OF YAHWEH shall be delivered( OR SAVED: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as YAH hath said, and in the remnant whom YAH shall call.( Joel 2:32)."""

""" 21. And it shall come to pass, THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL ON THE NAME OF YAHWEH shall be saved.( Acts 2:21) ( See also Joel 2:32 of original name of YHWH=YAH).

""" 13.For WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF YAHWEH shall be saved.
(See Also Joel 2:32 original Name of YHWH=YAH)

14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?

And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard?

And how shall they hear without a preacher? ""( Rom.10:13-14).

Now will people please answer those questions that Thee Apostle Paul asked above, as I also still ask people on the religious forums today ??

If people cannot SEE the difference of WHOM AND HIS NAME OF YAH TO CALL UPON today, then, they are truely blinded by the GOD SATAN of this age as Paul said( 2 Cor.4:4) and the good news is hidden from them.


Elyahc = Eljah C.






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Elyahc

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posted 01-03-2006 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elyahc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another reference out of their own mouths too.

http://christiananswers.net/dictionary/baal.html

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