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Author Topic:   Revelations Chapter 11 already took place on 9/11, how could any one have missed this
marc

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posted 09-18-2003 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New Learner,

You are aptly named. By the number of your posts, one would assume that you know Yahushua.

And because the Revelation is revealed by Yahushua, you speak blasphemy.

You would be a wise servant were you to recant your previous testimony.

Advice to a brother

Love, Marc

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BarYah

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posted 09-18-2003 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarYah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi New Learner!

Good to have you back, after a few months of not seeing your name.

There are various parts of Scripture, that only to ourselves, if by that we receive a blessing and are drawn closer to Yahweh, we might interpret alone. Yet, though I personally believe that, we must be careful in making that which has personally brought us closer to Yahweh, a personal interpretation that we not only keep in our own hearts, but that we speak to others of, as if we have the "inside track" on that. Scripture tells us:

"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Yeshua Mashiach, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17: For he received from G-d the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18: And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

19: We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21: For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man [It wasn't men using various means to come to conclusions about the words that they wrote]: but holy men of G-d spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2Peter 1: 16-21).

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marc

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posted 09-18-2003 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bar Yah,

What is your point? That if you have doubts as to the validity of the Scripturesw to keep them to yourself? Or, no man has the authority to interperate Scripture to his own will?

Sometimes your posts are so esoteric, vague and oblique, I don't understand you.

My point in my post was that the Revelation is verified in the first three verses as being that of Yahushua and not that of the scribe.

So by obvious inference, criticising or negating the writer is tantamount to blasphemy, because the author is Yahushua!

So many are willing to dismiss various authors because they have a lack of understanding, as I myself have been guity of. A sin I have since repented of.

The way to destruction is quick and slick. Wrestling with Yahwey is commendable, if one is wrestling in true faith, but remember, you will always walk away with a limp!!!!!

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New Learner

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posted 09-19-2003 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for New Learner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok I will accept the fact revelations chapter 11 most likely didn't happen on 9/11 despite the many coincidences in which I pointed out. I should have said its my opinion/ beliefs sorry for not adding that to the post..

But Over the past Two Years I have been heavely studying the NWO, so deeply I have been lead astray by it... And I can assure you the fact that the American right wing and Arab terrorist will be blamed for the next attack is almost a certainty and Arabs and Christians/period and Semites will be slaughtered around the globe...

I advise you not to study much of the NWO in the little time we had, so many news articles on the internet so easy it is to be lead astray...

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Amie Li

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posted 09-19-2003 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amie Li     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NL

You said: But Over the past Two Years I have been heavely studying the NWO, so deeply I have been lead astray by it...

So very true. I used to study some of that stuff. Much of it is true, but much is hype. Kind of like UFO,s Roswell, Aliens, White Sands, Area 51, UN camps, Etc etc. It's all demon posssesd or surrounded, and you should get out of it while you still can.

Let the ones of the world be of the world, and start giving more time to Yahweh. Study his powerful holy word daily, for doing his wonderful works.

Yahweh said "Get out of her my people". I truly believe the whole world has become as babylon. We can't save this dying world, so give it up.

You need to spend what short amount of time we have left to build your faith back up strong in the spirit and truth of Yahweh.

Hold on to what is good until the end.

Shalom through Yahshua Messiah,

Sister Amie Li

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BarYah

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posted 09-20-2003 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarYah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shabbat shalom, marc!

Sorry that it seems to you that this short post was unclear. I will address your questions.

You have said:

"What is your point? That if you have doubts as to the validity of the Scripturesw to keep them to yourself? Or, no man has the authority to interperate Scripture to his own will?
No, not at all. My point was that although we may have the Spirit of Yahweh show us something that is to be purely subjective [it only refers to something in my own personal life], we can accept that, but we cannot go about telling everybody that Yahweh has written this or that just for me, and this is the way all are to see it!

Sometimes your posts are so esoteric, vague and oblique, I don't understand you.
I've been told that before, but there is always an answer given to any who have questions wanting a clarification.

My point in my post was that the Revelation is verified in the first three verses as being that of Yahushua and not that of the scribe.
Oh, now I see. My last post [actually only other], was rather replying to the very first post, started by New Learner. Of course, I did call him by alias, and so all of what I said was for him. I hadn't noticed what you had written actually, so I will go back, marc, and take a look at your words.

So by obvious inference, criticising or negating the writer is tantamount to blasphemy, because the author is Yahushua!

So many are willing to dismiss various authors because they have a lack of understanding, as I myself have been guity of. A sin I have since repented of.

The way to destruction is quick and slick. Wrestling with Yahwey is commendable, if one is wrestling in true faith, but remember, you will always walk away with a limp!!!!!"

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Berean

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posted 09-20-2003 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Berean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Amie Li:
NL

You said: [b]But Over the past Two Years I have been heavely studying the NWO, so deeply I have been lead astray by it...

So very true. I used to study some of that stuff. Much of it is true, but much is hype. Kind of like UFO,s Roswell, Aliens, White Sands, Area 51, UN camps, Etc etc. It's all demon posssesd or surrounded, and you should get out of it while you still can.

Let the ones of the world be of the world, and start giving more time to Yahweh. Study his powerful holy word daily, for doing his wonderful works.

Yahweh said "Get out of her my people". I truly believe the whole world has become as babylon. We can't save this dying world, so give it up.

You need to spend what short amount of time we have left to build your faith back up strong in the spirit and truth of Yahweh.

Hold on to what is good until the end.

Shalom through Yahshua Messiah,

Sister Amie Li
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Shalom Amie,


You make some important points, but I would like to ask you to clarify what you mean by "We can't save this dying world, so give it up."

We do not have any power of ourselves to save this dying world and its ways of death, but I do believe we should not give up on the people in this world either. If you are meaning give up on the study of the worldly NWO actions, conspiracy theories and such, then I would strongly agree with you.

Being aware of such things is OK, but studying or becoming obsessed with them is truly dangerous, distracting ground.

May YAHWEH keep us from being distracted away from His Word.


1Corinthians 3:6 - 8

I have planted, Apollos watered; but YHWH gave the increase.
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but YHWH that giveth the increase.

Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with YHWH: ye are YHWH's husbandry, ye are YHWH's building.


Matthew 5:13 - 16

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.


Matthew 9:35 - 38

And Yahushua went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.

Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; Pray ye therefore the Master of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.


1Timothy 2:3 - 4

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of YHWH our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


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YAHWEH bless you, as you seek His will!
Shalom! brian

Prov 18:24 A man that hath friends must show himself friendly: and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother.

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leejosepho

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posted 01-11-2005 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leejosepho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shalom, folks.

I recently happened upon this, and I am sure at least some here might find it interesting:

http://www.acenetworkmission.org/index.asp?action=page&name=18

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