[21:21] Qumran_Bet Br. Eliyah, prayer time?
[21:21] SisAnca sure
EliYah Sure...
[21:21] Qumran_Bet Am ready, now.
EliYah Lenny, would you like lead us in a prayer?
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[21:22] Lenny_Bratcher Okay
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[21:22] Qumran_Bet Shabbat Shalom, lance!
[21:23] Lenny_Bratcher Shall we pray.
[21:23] lance3 Thanks for the welcome. are you a religious group?
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[21:23] Lenny_Bratcher Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name.
[21:23] Qumran_Bet yes, you could say that. : )
[21:23] Qumran_Bet shhh! : )
[21:23] Qumran_Bet --Br. Clif
[21:23] lance3 what sort of religion?
[21:23] Lenny_Bratcher Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on earth, as it is in Heaven.
[21:24] Qumran_Bet the quiet during prayer sort. : )
[21:24] Qumran_Bet --Br. Clif
[21:24] Qumran_Bet ;)
[21:24] lance3 are you occults?
[21:24] Lenny_Bratcher Give us This day, This Sabbath Day our Sabbaths Day's Special Spiritual
Bread.
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[21:24] Qumran_Bet no
[21:25] Qumran_Bet (zecharias was struck dumb)
[21:25] Lenny_Bratcher Save us by Thy Mighty Power, even Through Thy Holy Name.
[21:26] Lenny_Bratcher Bless us Now, in Yahshua's Name, HalleluYah.
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[21:26] Qumran_Bet Ahmeyn! --Br. Clif
EliYah Let it be so, HalleluYah!
[21:26] Qumran_Bet HalleluYaH! --Br. Jerry and Sis. Juanita
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EliYah BrClif, looking forward to what you have to share :)
[21:27] SisAnca Are you doing a sermon?
[21:27] Qumran_Bet We were reading in Numbers this morning...
EliYah lance, we are non-denominationasl
[21:27] Qumran_Bet some very interesting things we found...
[21:27] Qumran_Bet Tell me, Br. Eliyah, would you consider us as believers as being a fringe group?
[21:28] Qumran_Bet The Sacred-Name, Torah-keepers, that is...
EliYah I just consider us disciples of Yahshua :)
EliYah one of few :/
EliYah but growing :)
[21:28] Qumran_Bet "That's center, thank you." --Br, Clif
[21:28] Qumran_Bet --oops, Br. Jerry
[21:29] Qumran_Bet O.k., but are we on the outskirts of the faith?
[21:29] Qumran_Bet Where are we?
[21:29] Qumran_Bet : )
EliYah hehe
[21:29] Qumran_Bet Are we in the center?
[21:29] Qumran_Bet Where do you think we are?
EliYah I guess I haven't thought of it this way..
EliYah I'm not sure
[21:30] YermeYah We are on the outskirts of mainline Grecianized christianity
[21:30] SisAnca Well, I have to go now. Sorry, couldn't stay the whole time :( maybe next time.
[21:30] Qumran_Bet I'm speaking of the Sacred Namers/Torah-keepers generally, not specifically...
[21:30] Qumran_Bet Sis...
[21:30] Qumran_Bet He'll come...
[21:30] Qumran_Bet O.k...
[21:30] Qumran_Bet This is what we found...
[21:30] SisAnca who will come?
[21:30] Qumran_Bet BroDavid
[21:30] Qumran_Bet Numbers 11:1
[21:30] SisAnca well, maybe I can stay a few more minutes.
[21:31] Qumran_Bet +numbers 11 1
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[21:31] `Watchman Numbers 11:1 - And when the people complained, it displeased YAHWEH: and
YAHWEH heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of YAHWEH burnt among them, and
consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.
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[21:31] Qumran_Bet Shabbat Shalom, qumran!
[21:31] SisAnca Warm welcome qumran!
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[21:31] qumran hello
[21:31] SisAnca Shalom Aleichem!
[21:31] SisAnca peace be unto you:)
[21:31] Qumran_Bet Those on the uttermost parts of the camp were consumed when the camp
complained...
[21:31] qumran It this some kind of satanic channel??
EliYah no way
[21:32] Qumran_Bet but those in the center were not consumed...
[21:32] qumran what is it then??
[21:32] Qumran_Bet We should strive to be in the center so that we don't get fried when the camp
complains to YHWH.
[21:32] qumran hmmm
EliYah Just a meeting amongst believers in the Messiah
[21:32] SisAnca qumran, it is fellowship of the saints of YHWH :)
[21:32] qumran ok
[21:33] Qumran_Bet Also, we should be hesitant to complain about the miracles and provision that
YHWH makes for us.
[21:33] SisAnca why don't you hang around for a while ;)
[21:33] qumran but i´m not a beliver
[21:33] qumran ok :)
[21:33] SisAnca that's ok!
[21:33] qumran So you belive in messiah
[21:33] SisAnca you're welcome anyway.
[21:33] qumran wht??
[21:33] qumran why??
EliYah How would you define "center?"
EliYah Because He is :)
[21:34] Qumran_Bet Also in Numbers 11, the people complained about the miraculous provision of
manna from heaven...
[21:34] Qumran_Bet the people were getting bored with it...
[21:34] Qumran_Bet They wanted meat to eat...
[21:34] qumran i´m from sweden and not so good in english
[21:34] qumran hmm
[21:34] Qumran_Bet If you read the chapter...
[21:34] Qumran_Bet You will see that YHWH tells them that He will cause meat to come out of their
nostrils!
[21:35] Qumran_Bet Just like a parent telling its child, "You want to smoke? Here! You'll keep
smoking until you get sick of it, until I say to stop!"
[21:35] qumran I have the Black bible and read it some times but only of interest not of beliving in satan
[21:36] Qumran_Bet YHWH says, "You won't eat meat for just a short period of time, rather you will
eat meat every day for a MONTH!"
EliYah We are the total opposite of that, qumran
[21:36] qumran me too.
[21:36] qumran :)
[21:36] Qumran_Bet Mosheh acted like it was an impossible feat for YHWH to provide that much
meat out of thin air, there in the wilderness...
EliYah YHWH is the name of our Creator
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[21:37] Qumran_Bet But YHWH caused a wind to blow quail into the wilderness....
[21:37] Qumran_Bet He blew so much to the Israelite camp that there was quail for one mile in one
direction and one mile in another direction...
[21:37] Qumran_Bet !!!!!!
[21:37] Qumran_Bet I find that quite amazing!
EliYah yea!
[21:37] qumran yeah
[21:37] Qumran_Bet In addition, it was 2 cubits deep!
[21:37] qumran but i dont understand anything
[21:38] Qumran_Bet Someone tell us how long a cubit is...
[21:38] qumran hmm
EliYah about a foot and a half
[21:39] OldHickory Hello ... "rule of thumb" is length from ones elbow to the tips of their fingers ...
usually about 18"
EliYah so 3 feet deep, 2 miles long
[21:39] Qumran_Bet wow!
[21:39] qumran bye
EliYah shalom
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[21:39] Qumran_Bet Anyway, it says that they worked very much to clear the area of the quail there...
[21:40] Qumran_Bet It turns out that they ate so much quail that many died... It was like a plague to
them...
[21:40] Qumran_Bet We have to be careful what we seek from YHWH...
[21:40] Qumran_Bet what we lust after...
[21:40] Qumran_Bet it could kill us...
EliYah yes
[21:41] Qumran_Bet In this case, the Israelites wanted meat...
[21:41] Qumran_Bet could this be a type of the spiritual meat that many of us seek after?
[21:41] Qumran_Bet Could YHWH choke us to death on the meat doctrines we crave?
[21:41] Qumran_Bet When we complain about the miraculous provision He makes in our lives?
[21:41] Qumran_Bet Just a thought...
[21:42] Qumran_Bet Not sure if it has any basis or not...
[21:42] Qumran_Bet Perhaps if we are not ready to eat meat... --Sis. Juanita...
[21:42] Qumran_Bet That is what I had to share... : )
EliYah Yes
EliYah We can't forget the milk
EliYah Todah, BrClif :)
[21:44] Qumran_Bet Todah?
[21:44] Qumran_Bet Thank you?
EliYah yes :)
[21:44] Qumran_Bet --Br. Clif
[21:44] Qumran_Bet rusty Hebrew...
[21:44] Qumran_Bet What is Today Rabah?
[21:44] Qumran_Bet Toda Rabah?
EliYah Thank you very much
[21:44] Qumran_Bet anything?
[21:44] Qumran_Bet Oh, ok. : )
EliYah I'm about to share a new study I have done on the name of Yahweh...I have invited some from
#Adventist
EliYah What do you mean by "Center" BrClif?
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[21:46] Qumran_Bet not on the fringe. : )
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EliYah Shabbat Shalom DBen :)
[21:47] DBen hi eli:)
[21:47] DBen this the watch i've seen before on efnet??
EliYah no
EliYah I haven't been there hardly at all
[21:47] DBen 'watchman, i mean...
EliYah I don't think so
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EliYah Shalom bigbeak
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[21:48] Qumran_Bet Shabbat Shalom, Br. Bigbeak!
[21:48] Qumran_Bet Bigbeak is a cool brother...
[21:48] DBen ohh....bot?:))
[21:48] Qumran_Bet everybody give him a big welcome. : )
[21:48] bigbeak hi all
EliYah Yes, Watchman is a bot
[21:49] SisAnca I should go now, brothers and sisters! :)
[21:49] DBen ic
[21:49] SisAnca Thanks for your warm fellowship :)
[21:49] Lenny_Bratcher Welcome DBen & Bigbeak!
[21:49] Qumran_Bet We are in receiving mode, Br. Eliyah. --Br. Clif
[21:49] SisAnca Maybe brodavid will be on next week!
[21:49] bigbeak bye sis
[21:49] SisAnca bye
EliYah Shalom SisAnca
[21:49] Lenny_Bratcher Bye bye
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[21:49] YermeYah YAHWEH bless you SisAnca
[21:49] `Watchman Welcome back to #1MESSIAH Yahcanan
[21:49] *** `Watchman sets mode: +v Yahcanan
EliYah Brethren, I want all believers to know that I believe the name of the Heavenly Father is Yahweh
[21:50] SisAnca Shalom aleichem - peace to you all! YWHH bless you !
[21:50] Yahcanan Barucha Tov
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[21:50] Qumran_Bet Shabbat Shalom Yahcanan!
EliYah But it has been hidden by the translators
EliYah I know many people who know and accept this fact
EliYah But don't believe it really matters
[21:51] bigbeak i'm still eating dinner folks...just gonna lurk awhile :)
EliYah The most common question I hear among those that I share the truth of the name is "Doesn't
Yahweh know who I'm talking to? Why does it matter what I call Him, He answers me anyway?"
[21:52] Lenny_Bratcher I thought it was of little importance at one time, but with my Holy Name
Bible I began to see.
EliYah I believe that it is true. Yahweh often does and may answer prayer and accept praise from those
who have no knowledge of His true name. But what about those who DO know but don't care?
EliYah +psalm 44 20
[21:52] `Watchman Psalms 44:20 - If we have forgotten the name of our Elohim, or stretched out our
hands to a strange elohim;
EliYah +psalm 44 21
[21:52] `Watchman Psalms 44:21 - Shall not Elohim search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the
heart.
EliYah What does Yahweh really want us to do on this issue?
EliYah Continue to call Him whatever we want?
EliYah Or to call Him by the name He has assigned to Himself?
EliYah I do not think there is anything wrong with calling Yahweh our Father, Master, Creator, etc.
which are all fitting titles...
[21:53] DBen whatever we believe is right:) the Lord won't hold that against us....
[21:53] Yahcanan What?
EliYah What I think Yahweh would have a real problem with is changing His name from Yahweh to
"The Lord"
[21:54] Lenny_Bratcher Even before He places importance on the Sabbath (The Ten Commands) He
places Great Importance upon His Holy Name (The Third Command)
[21:54] DBen i have yet to be convinced that we should use YHWH.....
EliYah Let me share :)
EliYah It is extremely ironic, if not prophetic what Yahweh declared to Jeremiah when we understand
that the word "Baal" means "Lord"
[21:54] Lenny_Bratcher No name - no special Sabbath Day either.
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[21:55] SisAnca bye
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EliYah +jer 23 26 27
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[21:55] `Watchman Jeremiah 23:26 - How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy
lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
[21:55] `Watchman Jeremiah 23:27 - Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their
dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
[21:55] Qumran_Bet Shabbat Shalom, Lloyd!
EliYah Also consider what Yahweh declared to Hosea:
EliYah remember...Baal means "Lord"
EliYah +hosea 2 16
[21:55] Lenny_Bratcher If "Lord" is okay then so is "Sunday Worship"
[21:56] `Watchman Hosea 2:16 - And it shall be at that day, saith YAHWEH, that thou shalt call me
Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
[21:56] DBen i do not forget...no...i know what His name is....but, there being one God, how is it
necessary?
EliYah I tell you, it struck me as odd that Baal's name is never changed or translated and therefore lives
on while Yahweh's name is falsified over 7000 times in scripture!
[21:56] Lenny_Bratcher Baal is the sun god, the author of Sunday sacredness.
[21:56] Qumran_Bet Interesting!!!! --Sis. Juanita
EliYah But I think I might know one reason why....
EliYah See here, if they did try to translate the name Baal, then here is one thing they would have to
deal with:
[21:57] DBen have forgotten my name FOR Baal...worshipping Baal INSTEAD OF YHWH
[21:57] bigbeak in Ho 2:16, doesn't Baali simply mean master...as opposed to Ishi (husband)?
EliYah Kin 18:21 (NKJV) And Elijah came to all the people, and said, "How long will you falter
between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal (LORD), follow him." But the
people answered him not a word.
EliYah 1Kin 18:21 (NKJV) And Elijah came to all the people, and said, "How long will you falter
between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal (LORD), follow him." But the
people answered him not a word.
EliYah I recognize who they worshipped
EliYah But because of this relationship between Baal and Lord, I prefer not to use Lord at all. Never
would I want to replace Yahweh's name with another.
EliYah It is truth that many times in scripture, we see His people calling on His name. Men during the
time of Adam called on the name of Yahweh :
EliYah +gen 4 26
[21:59] `Watchman Genesis 4:26 - And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his
name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of YAHWEH.
[21:59] DBen most interesting view eli...forgive me if i don't have the same...:)
EliYah Abraham called upon the name of Yahweh:
EliYah +gen 12 7 8
[21:59] `Watchman Genesis 12:7 - And YAHWEH appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed
will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto YAHWEH, who appeared unto him.
[21:59] `Watchman Genesis 12:8 - And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of
Bethel, and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east: and there he builded an altar
unto YAHWEH, and called upon the name of YAHWEH.
[21:59] bigbeak eli, what do you do about human titles like "lord" and "lady" which are used in England/
[21:59] bigbeak ?
EliYah Moses used the name of Yahweh
EliYah +ex 3 15
[22:00] `Watchman Exodus 3:15 - And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto
the children of Israel, YAHWEH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac,
and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto
all generations.
EliYah David called upon the name of Yahweh:
EliYah +ps 116 13
[22:00] `Watchman Psalms 116:13 - I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of
YAHWEH.
EliYah +ps 116 17
EliYah EliYah the prophet called upon the name of Yahweh:
[22:00] `Watchman Psalms 116:17 - I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon
the name of YAHWEH.
EliYah +1kings 18 24
[22:00] `Watchman 1Kings 18:24 - And call ye on the name of your elohim, and I will call on the name
of YAHWEH: and the Elohim that answereth by fire, let him be Elohim. And all the people answered
and said, It is well spoken.
[22:00] DBen oh dear....i have seen all this...i still don't see your point...:) not that there's anything at
all wrong, i think, w/ calling him YHWH...but, it certainly is not a sin not to do so?
EliYah Have you read the third commandment?
[22:01] DBen NOR do i believe it would affect in the SLIGHTEST degree his answers of our prayer
[22:01] DBen print it up there for me:)
[22:01] YermeYah +psa 79 6
EliYah Psalms 79:6 - Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the
kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.
EliYah +de 5 11
[22:01] `Watchman Psalms 79:6 - Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and
upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.
[22:02] `Watchman Deuteronomy 5:11 - Thou shalt not take the name of YAHWEH thy Elohim in
vain: for YAHWEH will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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[22:02] Qumran_Bet Psalms 116:13 - I will take the cup of salvation(Heb: y'shuah), and call upon the
name of YAHWEH. --Br. Clif "And YaHshua handed the disciples the cup and said
[22:02] Lenny_Bratcher Perhaps it does not matter also in the slightest to keep Sunday in place of the
7th day?
[22:02] DBen i'm sorry...i still don't see it:)
[22:02] Qumran_Bet Psalms 116:13 - I will take the cup of salvation(Heb: y'shuah), and call upon the
name of YAHWEH. --Br. Clif "And YaHshua handed the disciples the cup and said 'Drink of this cup'"
--sis. Juanita
[22:02] DBen not that i think you're doing anything wrong...i just don't see your point....
EliYah Many take the third commandment to mean that we should not curse Yahweh's name.
EliYah It certainly does mean this.
EliYah However it also means that we should not replace His name with a substitute such as "the
Lord"
EliYah Let me share..
EliYah The word vain in the Hebrew is "Shav"
EliYah This Hebrew word is "Shav" which means desolating, vain, vanity, or falsehood.
EliYah Now let us look here in these same ten commandments where we will find this same Hebrew
word but it is translated differently:
[22:04] Qumran_Bet "He who knows to do good and doeth it not, it is sin for Him" --John
EliYah +de 5 20
[22:04] `Watchman Deuteronomy 5:20 - Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
EliYah Here we have the same Hebrew word 7723 translated false!
EliYah Now what have people done to Yahweh's name?
EliYah It has been falsified. It has been taken out of the way thereby making it vain.
[22:05] YermeYah Why would anybody want to REPLACE his name with the name of an IDOL?
[22:05] DBen heh...Qum....i don't see this as an issue of "good" and "bad"...perhaps you do....perhaps
i'll call Him YHWH in the future, now that i've been "enlightened'"...perhaps not...
EliYah The third commandment could easily be translated "Thou shalt not falsify the name of Yahweh
thy Elohim: for Yahweh will not hold (him) guiltless that falsifies His name"
[22:05] Qumran_Bet Then why don't you call YOUR "god" Buddha?
[22:05] DBen actually ...most the time i pray to Jesus....:)
EliYah At any rate, falsifying His name with another is wrong...
[22:05] DBen who's a buddhist??
[22:06] Qumran_Bet "Jesus is more closely related to praising Zeus (Iesous)." --Br. Jerry
EliYah If I told you that my name was JimBob then I would not be telling you the truth.
[22:06] Qumran_Bet Who's a Godist?
[22:06] LloydM jesus is real. Of course it is the best.
[22:06] Qumran_Bet I'm a worshipper of YHWH!
[22:06] Qumran_Bet Jesus was never His Name.
EliYah +isa 42 8
[22:06] DBen eli: every time you use the word 'can'...do you mean both the container and the ability
to do something???? i think not...
[22:06] `Watchman Isaiah 42:8 - I am YAHWEH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to
another, neither my praise to graven images.
EliYah Dben, I missed your point?
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[22:07] DBen heh...i've missed yours...
[22:07] DBen we're even
[22:07] Qumran_Bet The angel Gavriel came to a Hebrew-Aramaic speaking maiden and said to call
Him "YaHUshua, for He(YaHU) shall save(shua) His people(the YaHUdim/Jews) from their sins."
They didn't yet know salvation(Y'shuah) would go to the goyim/gentiles.
[22:08] DBen this goes nowhere....i'm set in my view...and i in no way wish to try and sway yours...
EliYah What is your response to what I shared on the 3rd commandment?
[22:08] DBen to each is own...
EliYah oh ok...nevermind then
[22:08] DBen is = his
[22:08] Lenny_Bratcher Yahweh gave us speech, with vocal sounds before we learned the written
speech.
[22:08] Qumran_Bet Dben, your message must not be the truth then, if you do not wish to sway us to
your message...
EliYah When I proclaim Yahweh, I know that I am proclaiming His name, just as all those in scriptures
have done.
[22:08] YermeYah +mat 10 22
[22:09] Qumran_Bet Dben says, "Do as the Romans do..."
[22:09] `Watchman Matthew 10:22 - And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that
endureth to the end shall be saved.
[22:09] DBen truth?! this is a matter of such? i do not believe so! can't you realize?? i do not
believe this to be a matter of truth, therefore, i have no wish to sway your view!!!!!
EliYah +de 32:1-3
[22:09] `Watchman Deuteronomy 32:1 - Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth,
the words of my mouth.
[22:09] `Watchman Deuteronomy 32:2 - My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as
the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
[22:09] DBen it seems you hold it like that....i don't
[22:09] `Watchman Deuteronomy 32:3 - Because I will publish the name of YAHWEH: ascribe ye
greatness unto our Elohim.
[22:09] Lenny_Bratcher I imagine the romans ate pig flesh.
[22:09] Qumran_Bet Then you have no concept of truth...
[22:10] DBen oh dear....down to basic insults now...
EliYah Let's not be unfruitful brethren...
[22:10] DBen i believe i'll depart...this has been degraded to an argument, rather than debate
EliYah DBen has rejected the name of Yahweh
EliYah that is his choice
[22:10] Qumran_Bet This was a service, NOT a debate!
[22:10] DBen hehehh.....please here....my oh my....
[22:10] DBen we aren't on the same ground here....:)
[22:11] Qumran_Bet Instead of humbly listening to the message and debating after, you chose to
interrupt a sabbath message "in progress"
EliYah I believe it all comes down to a choice. Whether one will choose the excuses of men or the
EliYah word of Yahweh Almighty.
[22:11] Lenny_Bratcher We need not prop the Truth up, it stands like the Ark, without need of our
hand to steady It.
[22:11] Qumran_Bet I agree, I agree! --sis. Juanita Ahmeyn! yes! Yes! --Br. Jerry
[22:11] DBen i'll leave before i say something i regret...this is extremely frustrating...:)
[22:12] Qumran_Bet yes, so is bucking the truth...
[22:12] DBen goodbye all, may the Lord (YHWH) bless you....
[22:12] Qumran_Bet I've done it before...
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[22:12] Qumran_Bet "All this kicking against the ox-goads is making it hard for you."
[22:12] Lenny_Bratcher The rocks crushes those who do not fall upon It.
EliYah If the scriptures are written for our learning and righteous men for our example, do the
scriptures not clearly show that HIS people call on His name?
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EliYah +isa 52 6
[22:13] Qumran_Bet Shabbat Shalom, PRT!
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[22:13] `Watchman Isaiah 52:6 - Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know
in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
EliYah Let's look at an end time prophecy. Will Yahweh's people be calling on His name at that time,
in this age?
EliYah +zech 13 7
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EliYah +zech 13 8
EliYah +zech 13 9
[22:14] `Watchman Zechariah 13:7 - Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that
is my fellow, saith YAHWEH of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will
turn mine hand upon the little ones.
[22:14] `Watchman Zechariah 13:8 - And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith YAHWEH,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
[22:15] `Watchman Zechariah 13:9 - And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine
them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear
them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YAHWEH is my Elohim
[22:15] YermeYah +num 13 16
[22:15] Lenny_Bratcher HalleluYah!
[22:15] `Watchman Numbers 13:16 - These are the names of the men which Moses sent to spy out
the land. And Moses called Oshea the son of Nun Jehoshua.
EliYah Brethren, with that I think I will close :)
[22:16] Yahcanan Barucha ba shim YahWeh
EliYah By the way, you can read the study I just shared at http://isis.infinet.com/eliyah/name.html
[22:17] Qumran_Bet that was a grand finale! : ) Hallelu YaH!
EliYah In its entirety
EliYah Praise be to Yahweh!
[22:17] Qumran_Bet Will you post it as a log in the forum, also?
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EliYah Yes
[22:17] Lenny_Bratcher My Holy Name Bible says for Numbers 13:16 ... son of Nun, Yah-ha-shuah.
[22:17] Qumran_Bet You know, we are being purified as silver and tried as gold as he leads us farther
and farther into the Ruach-lead life of Torah-observance...
EliYah Yes
[22:18] Qumran_Bet "this is into the center" --Br. Jerry
[22:18] Qumran_Bet Phew! --Sis. Juanita.
EliYah Does anyone have any questions or anything else to share?
[22:19] Qumran_Bet Just my love, Brother. : ) --Br. Clif
EliYah I love you all :) Yahweh is so good :)
[22:20] Lenny_Bratcher This is encouraging
[22:20] Qumran_Bet "silver and gold have I none" --Br. Clif, thanks to the bills. : )
[22:20] Qumran_Bet "thank you!" --Sis. Juanita
[22:20] bigbeak in Ho 2:16, doesn't Baali simply mean master...as opposed to Ishi (husband)?
[22:20] bigbeak eli, what do you do about human titles like "lord" and "lady" which are used in
England?
[22:20] Lenny_Bratcher Yes, me too, Thank you.
[22:21] Qumran_Bet Baali is not a pagan name, Br. Jerry and Sis. Juanita say...
EliYah My only Master is Yahshua :)
[22:21] Qumran_Bet Ba'al is...
[22:21] Qumran_Bet We agree... : )
EliYah Baali means "My lord"