Elohim or not?


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Posted by Jeff Persyn on March 04, 1997 at 20:31:48:

In Reply to: Re: Ministries posted by Clyde on February 20, 1997 at 11:57:32:


: : I understand what you are saying. But in the Hebrew the terms El, or Elohim
: : are used, such as Yahweh are El.....Or Yahweh the Elohim of Israel.
: : Now I dont have the scriptures in front of me to get a direct quote.

Very true. Emeth.

: : ELohim is used in this text and in the scriptures how do you not use
: : the words el or elohim?

You don't.


: I do not speak Hebrew, however, El and Elohim were placed in the scriptures
: by scribes who were not faithful to Father YHWH.

There is no textual evidence for this. NO Hebrew manuscript has
ever been found that did not contain El, Eloah, or Elohim.

: When Mosheh (Moses) and the children of Israyl came out of Egypt they did not
: use those titles.

No way. Start with Bereshith 1:1. Have you learned that Adam wrote
down the first part of Bereshith, up through chapter 9? You can see
this by the existence of the colophons in Gen 1:1, 5:1 and 10:1.
Noah took over in 10:1, etc. This format was standard historical
format in the ancient Middle East. Moshe compiled the separate tablets
into what we call Bereshith.

:Remember Father YHWH specifically told Mosheh that when
: they go in and posses the land He was giving them, they were NOT to worship Him
: the way those people worshipped their gods.

This is very true and so they did not worshipped in the names of the
false elohim which are no elohim.

: After the death of those early leaders, the Israylites did absorb the language of
: the land. The scribes when they have to recopy the scrolls used the language of
: the land.

Again, you have no manuscripts or even a fragment.

: That is how El and Elohim came into the scriptures. Remember the "J",
: "E" and "P" writers? All this can be found in the Interpreter's Dictionary of
: the Bible.

If you believe that, then you must think Daniel was written after the
Exile, Isaiah was written by three different people and so on, despite
what the text says.

The reason the Canaanites used the term El, is simply because they
knew it from Noah. Noah had the truth and taught it to his descendants.
Canaan was his grandson. Although they deviated, they did retain some
truth in the title El.

Shalom.





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