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#33616 - 08/19/03 04:09 AM Lita's bad marriage:
Eugenie Offline


Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 271
Loc: Amsterdam
The following is what is going on in the life of my lady friend Lita: she married about 7 years ago. Both she and her husband are Christian. The marriage turned sour while she was in the process of turning to the Sabbath type bible-faith. She mentioned to me that she is continually being pestered and psychologically harmed/battered by her husband. From her first year of marriage already and it is not stopping. That she now sees that he actually never was into God/Adonai, but that he stayed in the church because of his parents (who are Christians). Now for the question: Lita is praying for a way out of this marriage. She hopes for her now husband to pass on (die) so that she be released from this marriage in a biblical way.

Could someone inform me if Adonai hears such prayers??

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#33617 - 08/23/03 10:30 AM Re: Lita's bad marriage:
DelaYah Offline


Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 220
Loc: still in babylon, (usa) but ge...
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Lita is praying for a way out of this marriage. She hopes for her now husband to pass on (die) so that she be released from this marriage in a biblical way.
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She should not condemn her husband to death for unbelief. Doing such is like...

Saying to a Brother, who you do not agree with, that they are DEAD (Not your Brother ANYMORE)

Paul and Peter, filled with YHWH's Spirit, argued, parted company, but did not say anything like, if you go, you are not my brother anymore.


When Yahushua prophesied how ALL of his followers would scatter and leave him alone, he didn't condemn them, but said, you will all leave me alone, and some will deny me, but I will visit you again. (You guys are still my brothers in other words)


Allow me to elaborate a true story for you, that has much relevance to this experience you are asking for prayer over, and something I will now share with the brethren in this forum. I have read in this forum in the last 3 1/2 years, but it's been a # of years since I made a post, more or less, as a direct result of this storys impact on my life.


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The Story
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I know of a certain Person, who has done such to me. I am waiting for him to repent to me, although, it's not looking as though he is going to. He pronounced me dead on the scene when he gave me an ULTIMATUM, to live at his house, or NOT BE A BROTHER ANYMORE. Can you believe that?

When I tried to bring this to him in all humility, he said that he is accused on a regular basis of PRIDE, and he told me to get in line. (as if this was supposed to appease the situation of his pride)

I was living in a community with some belivers, TORN assunder by some pitiful doctrines, including, any man who married a wife, and was previously married in their life, had to cast away that marriage, or was living in condemnation.

Clearly, this is as UNSCRIPTURAL as telling someone that if they part company from them, they would no longer be a BROTHER.

So....

If you live in a community of professing like-minded brothers and sisters, and are thinking of leaving for a while, is it scriptural for someone to use TAUNTS and to alas, condemn someone to death because they do not see things like you at the moment?

NO. It's not scriptural. Furthermore, it's sinfull to say such things to another Brother and proceeds only from PRIDE. If anyone disagrees with me, I am all ears, and would appreciate scripture to back up your point.


As I have prayed that many scriptures would permiate his spirit and bring about repentance, this has not happened.


Please suggest this word from Paul to this woman, about whether a woman should leave their husband. (Have I mentioned that these scriptures can easily be applied to a relationship between a brother and a brother? That is my belief.)

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1Cr 7:10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:

1Cr 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.

1Cr 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

1Cr 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

1Cr 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

1Cr 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace.

1Cr 7:16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save [thy] husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save [thy] wife?

1Cr 7:17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

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May YWHW bless us all and cause us to repent from those things which seperate us from the Love of YHWH.

Peace and blessings on this great Sabbath!

Bro Greg
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Shalom in Yahushua,
BrGreg

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#33618 - 08/25/03 04:47 PM Re: Lita's bad marriage:
Eugenie Offline


Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 271
Loc: Amsterdam
Brother Greg,

Thanks for sharing. And you could be right.... it may not be a prayer Adonai would honour! I think the two should separate or divorce. I am totally against this, but if you know her sorrow...... separate or divorce and not remarry (biblically correct is my opinion).

Blessings,
Eugenie

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#33619 - 09/06/03 12:51 PM Re: Lita's bad marriage:
DelaYah Offline


Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 220
Loc: still in babylon, (usa) but ge...
Eugenie,

If the husband is forbidding her to Keep YHWH's laws, she should seek to keep YHWH's laws. Divorce is not an option for a female though. A female is bound to her husband for as long as they shall live. She could move to a relatives house and keep herself from getting involved with any other men. Her commitment to YHWH is to hope and pray for her husband to honour YHWH and His laws. The problem I have seen with people in general in the last 100 years is that they are not putting themselves under subjection to one another.

May YHWH guide her.

Shabbat shalom!
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Shalom in Yahushua,
BrGreg

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#33620 - 09/18/03 03:36 AM Re: Lita's bad marriage:
Eugenie Offline


Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 271
Loc: Amsterdam
Thank you too for writing DelaYah. Your words are accurate... it is ALSO a matter of the husband not wanting his wife to follow Yahweh's / Adonai's Law. Very difficult. .... To him the Law has been done away with .... and so he teases and teases. Don't get me wrong he has his good side, bur a lot of bad too. I'll just continue praying for Lita.

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