#113242 - 01/02/12 07:53 AM
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Here is the reason - Rev 13:11-18 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to RECEIVE a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: (And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
The Lord arranged back in the late 1960's that I was to sit in as my employer's representative on a global engineering group, multi-national, multi-corporation, group of engineers to develop the scanning 666 symbol technology. I can tell you the whole system is based upon 666 from a first hand experience knowledge basis
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#113243 - 01/02/12 07:57 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
[Re: yeshuaslave]
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YOU WILL SOON SEE THE AMERICAN ECONOMIC CRISIS FORCING A CASHLESS SOCIETY ON AMERICA, AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, LITERALLY OVERNIGHT. ................... Jesus warned us many times - "Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name." Many FALSE TEACHERS come in His name. It is EXACTLY as Jesus told us that it would be. Christ means ANOINTED. Don't they all say and claim "I am anointed." Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. (I am Christ means I am Anointed, SAME THING.) ---------------- Rev 14:9 THE Holy Bible (KJV) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark IN his forehead, or IN his hand,
(IN not ON, one letter can mean the difference - heaven or hell) ------------------ Jesus warned us many times - "Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name." Many FALSE TEACHERS come in His name. It is EXACTLY as Jesus told us that it would be. Christ means ANOINTED. Don't they all say and claim "I am anointed." Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. (I am Christ means I am Anointed, SAME THING.) .......................... .......... .... from gjigt site / info from scripture
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#113244 - 01/02/12 08:03 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
[Re: yeshuaslave]
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Representatives of the bio-chip 666 implant identification chip companies have already appeared on international Christian network television. The chip company representative said that obviously this can NOT be THE mark of the beast because it is NOT ON the hand or ON the forehead. It is under the skin where it cannot be seen ..................... ............/ ........ .. chips are already .............. in millions, they are forever condemned totally. ...................... they can never, not in any way, ...............................be saved, nor ever be forgiven.
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#113245 - 01/02/12 08:06 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
[Re: yeshuaslave]
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The 666 digital bio-chips and RFID chips are now available. Millions of people in the European Union have a microchip implanted in their right wrist to speed border crossings. Most in Europe think it is a great idea and wonder why high-tech America seems to be so slow in having the chip implant form of National ID, to catch on. There are still many real Christians in America.
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#113304 - 02/05/12 04:39 PM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
[Re: yeshuaslave]
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I have a view of "in the forehead, in the hand" that came after studying scripture. I believe that "in the forehead" pertains to thought (i.e. Shabbat, YHWH, keeping the Torah, etc) and that "in the hand" pertains to what we do (i.e. no buying or selling on Shabbat, etc). Although I do believe that some form of chip implant will be available and a mistake (I will not do it), I wonder if we get so caught up in the mainstream thought of chip implants that we do not stop to consider Deut 6:8 "And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes." (KJV) speaking of the commandments, statues, and testimonies which YHWH has commanded. I believe the two go hand-in-hand, and that we should not put one over the other. If a person does not take the chip, as many Christians won't, but will still not keep Shabbat, is he really doing what YHWH desires? Will he be considered to be following YHWH or the anti-christ? Has anyone else ever wondered about this? I guess I'm asking if I am completely wrong in my thinking.
Shalom Lisa
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#113305 - 02/05/12 05:55 PM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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You are not alone in your thinking, Lisa. I have thought the exact same thing. Shalom, DeborYah
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#113306 - 02/05/12 06:12 PM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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Thank you DeborYah!
I've always wondered if I was alone in thinking this. Especially since it mentions that no one may buy or sell without the mark. That makes me think of the Sabbath commandment. No one thinks anything of going to games, buying groceries, etc, on their Saturday. Or on Sunday for that matter, which they consider the lord's day. But if another blue law went into effect that stores were closed on Sunday and everyone had to buy groceries on Saturday...that would cause quite a problem for Sabbath keepers.
Again, just some thoughts I've had on this subject...
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#113307 - 02/06/12 08:34 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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If someone RUNS a red light, he gets a ticket. . If someone breaks a plate glass store window, he breaks law. . Yhvh's Word says that if someone breaks one of Yhvh's Words, he breaks them all. . Like as a little boy walking thru the forest with his day - at any point, if the boy disobeys and goes off the path and does not listen to his dad, then he may get very hurt or even die, or may just get lost for a while.... . In china is the only living community of believers once reported on the internet, in the world. . There may be other living communities of believers somewhere else, but they have not been reported on the internet by observers except in a way by 'themselves' which doesn't count here. . By living community of believers, i mean a community of believers who others see a difference in from the world. Believers whose witness is true, whose lives look like what they say, look like what YHVH's WORD says they should look like- look like and be like together, as in REAL, not put on, not 'actors on a stage'. . There have been individual believers in other places whose witness as observed by outsiders was true - they were known to be WITH YHVH by the life they lived. . Some here may be so - I hope so, and, if not, then still hope that they may be becoming thus. . Yhvh alone is able to accomplish this - the believers could not in any way make it happen themselves. But they could and they did willingly and joyfully go along with YHVH hand in hand obeying Him, doing what He says to do EVERY MOMENT AS IF HE IS RIGHT THERE WITH THEM (AND HE IS!). Every moment, every item of their lives, every thought, is layed before YHVH and is His - they hold nothing back, they do not hesitate to simply and readily obey HIM even if they die. . They do not make money at anything that hurts anyone else. (like the stock market, or multiple property rentals, or land investments, or a polluting business, or any kind of gambling, or giving white poison to others or themselves...
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#113308 - 02/06/12 09:55 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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these are indeed hard sayings for some, for several very long time and very basic reasons, in large part because all religion is fALSe today, especially the roman abomination and the lies spawned by it on earth. Also - see the following, much of which can only help a new born in the MESSIAH YAHSHUA, (it cannot be accepted nor recognized by so-called scholars nor by religions fold) .....
[quote] The USA is no longer known for its righteousness, but rather for its huge consumption of illegal and legally promoted mood altering drugs, alcoholism, suicides, greed, fraud, immorality, exploding divorce rates, terrific numbers of fatherless children, governmental and political corruption, child abuse, homosexuality, incest, murder, theft, rape, and now since Iraq, for attacking other sovereign countries that pose no direct threat to us.
The Israelite Canon has existed for over 2900 years. This is the Bible Yahshua used!
# Yahshua adhered to the Festivals established by Yahweh in the Tanakh.
# Yahshua adhered to the Sabbath, and kept it as it was originally designed to do.
# Yahshua's Apostles were Israelites, they never renounced their "Hebrew roots."
# Yahshua's Apostles required converts to adhere to all of the applicable Israelite Commandments.
# The Canon of the Apostles was the same Canon that Yahshua used.
# The Apostles did not see the need to make any changes in the Israelite Canon even after Yahshua's death.
# Yahshua never renounced "Israelism;" he did not join or create another, nor form a new religion. To do so would have been a great sin.
# Yahshua was never a Christian.
Since it is Yahweh, and not man, who determines when and where and how and to whom contact is to be made with His creation, our knowledge about Yahweh is limited to the information that Yahweh chooses to reveal about Himself.
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#113309 - 02/07/12 06:13 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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these are indeed hard sayings for some, for several very long time and very basic reasons, in large part because all religion is fALSe today, especially the roman abomination....... The USA is no longer known for its righteousness, There is a cultural clash of civilizations on a collision course between two abominations, imo. Islam and Roman. Just yesterday this "Catholic League Poised To Go To War With Obama Over Mandatory Birth Control Payments"http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/06/cathol...That's 70 million people versus Hussein Obama who if reelected I believe, if he already hasn't done so will publically side with the Arabs against Israel. He was raised a Muslim and traveled the world on an Indonesian passport. A Battle the President Can't WinBy Peggy Noonan (Archive)· Saturday, February 4, 2012 "President Obama just may have lost the election."
"The president signed off on a Health and Human Services ruling that says that under ObamaCare, Catholic institutions -- including charities, hospitals and schools -- will be required by law, for the first time ever, to provide and pay for insurance coverage that includes contraceptives, abortion-inducing drugs and sterilization procedures. If they do not, they will face ruinous fines in the millions of dollars. Or they can always go out of business.
In other words, the Catholic Church was told this week that its institutions can't be Catholic anymore.
I invite you to imagine the moment we are living in without the church's charities, hospitals and schools. And if you know anything about those organizations, you know it is a fantasy that they can afford millions in fines.
There was no reason to make this ruling -- none. Except ideology.....
Enjoy it while you can. You have awakened a sleeping giant."A Battle the President Can't Win - WSJ.com
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#113310 - 02/07/12 07:44 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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did you catch the long held LIE in THIS QUOTE from a supporter of the antichrist??(from noonan, i guess is a roman cthlk, NOT the poster, just an inadvertant slip there i think) -
... "... I invite you to imagine the moment we are living in without the church's charities, hospitals and schools. And if you know anything about those organizations, you know it is a fantasy that they can afford millions in fines....."
the insttutions noted are NOT right, NOT good, NOT unoppressive, any more than the prse is.... they are owned lock stock and barrel by the opposing of truth.... .. and they take in BILLIONS of dollars every month.... .. IT IS ALL FOR SHOW, for power, for control of earth..... .. so, no, DO NOT TRUST mankind, man, NOR ANY socalled 'charity' - IT IS ALL DECEPTIVE... .. (with very very rare exception, and for rare individuals who like esther and daniel and charles chiniquoy and watchman nee stand up for the truth) ..
Edited by yeshuaslave (02/07/12 07:48 AM)
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#113311 - 02/07/12 08:44 AM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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It's like saying Hitler liked animals.
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#113312 - 02/09/12 05:54 PM
Re: ........ must learn, now, .......... gjigt
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did the german leader like anyone, any body, anything ?
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