Until I have the grace and opportunity to post more, I urge you to walk in humility and go slow.

As the blessings acumulate, do not over-interpret them as a statement of divine endorsement of everyhting you are saying and doing. PLEASE, PLEASE walk in humility. Changes must come slowly, so start now.

One defunct commune in The Names had developed a strict doctrine against laughter, even though laughter is one of the promises extended to the oppressed. PLEASE, PLEASE keep your sense of humor, and be willing to laugh at your self on occassion, and the ironies of life. Yahweh made the monkeys .... He has a sense of humor.

Many other fine tips on this blog. The one about the water rights is absolutely critical.

Finally, your blood kin is not the same as the assembly and your assembly is not the same as your blood kin. If you treat your little assembly as though they are blood kin, then you are not operating as an assembly. This may seem obscure to you now. So here's a tip. If you find that the rules governing your family OVER-RULE Congregational Law (In The Scriptures), then you are not operating as an assembly, you are operating as a family. Example: If a visitor speaks the truth in your Sabbath gathering, but you silence him because it's your home, then you are not operating as an assembly ... you are operating as a family.

And now you have a clue as to how cult leaders get started. PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

Yours in Yahshua,
Michael

I agree!! In every group there will always be those who wish to take advantage of or impose their social dominance - and make like pharisees.

Listen to The Five Fundamental Principles of Phariseeism

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2662031810327980639#

I heard once that the Pilgrims had a problem with lack of food early on because food production was communalized - things didn't get right until it was privatized.

Jude 12 "These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead."

I am very new to Messianic Christian ways. The Holy Spirit & what I have found in scripture has totally convicted me that Gentile beleivers are to be grafted into the olive tree, Isreal & Gentiles are the wild olive tree. (Romans 11:17). My husband is a believer of the Messiah (Christ)but does not have any interest in Messianic. He says that is for the Jews & we are not Jewish,etc. So I am trying to follow my convictions but yet be obedient to Yahweh and His word & have a peaceful home.. I think an Amish style Messianic community/farm would be wonderful. I will be praying about that. Yahweh will have to work it out for me to follow the Messianic way more. I hope that I can some day live my life completely Messianic. Does that make any sence?

"Foreigners" seem to have their act together - 3 to 5 of them live in one house, splitting the mortgage and all the bills ...
ends up costing them each $125 per month, plus food and car expenses.
...
that's $125.00 one hundred twenty five dollars and zero cents.
that covers their part of the monthly rent and electric and gas and water bills. (don't know about insurance, don't care for now)...
...
they each work different places, and their wives/children are included in the house but don't have to pay extra .

yeshuaslave
Now that makes a lot of sense. Not to mention the fellowship you would have as well.

Too bad believers didn't team up with duplexes and apartment building that are for sale as well...

shared living expenses and vehicles etc....hmmm

Actually rainbow- there have been those in Mass who have done this AND -when i first came - it was wonderful- - obviously - if in 1st year "Christianity" it didn't last - what more can i say- right-

well-- Script says "Occupy till I[He]comes"

Ezekiel 11:17 “... ‘Thus said the Master יהוה, “.. I shall gather you from the peoples, and I shall assemble you from the lands where you have been scattered, and I shall give you the land of Yisra’ĕl.”
[Wellers]

MY HEART! HallaluYAH! Toda rabba for th encouragement:)

"Foreigners" ...$125 per month, ..._________________________"...suffer persecution so that, perhaps, take part in resurrection..." Paul's letter

Tov meod:)Sound great yeshuaslave

Good to know re “Law” or color thereof –ty Felix Moreno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnpujfanUM&NR=1
somthing to consider
-----------------May PRAYER+Thanks+rejoice+WORD accompany US
"..this is the Ark in Yahushua.." intresting [matzos]

Ty Rob and Jen (BTW theseedofabraham.net expired)
u guys preg.? Congrats ||^u frm NY “Seed”?

[Ben and Pamela]Tenn? My bro[He dose Alt. fuel]
is there (I have thoughts on this…)
- - - good to hear NUB [stevpace@bellsouth.net]


Upstate ny, ..It would be wonderful to start a Messianic community ..and be self sufficient.We are coming to the end of the church age, where the Father is turning his attentions to Israel and the sons & daughters of Israel.I for one am fatigued with the luke warm ways of the mainstream Church and our techno secular society.
Count me In,
Dave Moscowitz
Rohester NY

When the son of man returns will he find faith on the earth?_________________________
I am interested in connected with my spiritual brothers and sisters in any way that I can.We have been dispersed by divine Providence, but I know we will all be reunited again.
-^-(i have a Lag B'Omer story on Providence-which i believe would b relivent to this discussion:)

^Just 4 hours from Rochester –hear there r folks north who have land to start something…/I b with ya bro/

“..educate the members on the Jewish feasts ...dmoscow1@frontier.com Toda bro:)



...if Yahweh's people bought a Hotel like a Best western....everyone would have their space, there would be a community dinning room, swimming pool for Baptisms, a large laundry area and then have a community garden/farm....[rainbow]

building when you
step out and faith and put your feet into the waters and
cross over the Jordon into the promised land.

Munsens
Colfax, La 71417 [beeman]
v
as for “. . water rights..” Oxa ASKED
v
Re: “food” of over 200 Cities only 47 were NOT begun by Kibbutzim![collective]in Israel

I've come to see we are to be a light right where we are, and Yahweh will gather us when it is time. We are to love those around us, and little by little we have found believers in our state or nearby all about 2 to 3 hours away...willing to travel at least once a month to fellowship:)

Praise Yahweh, HalleluYah!

This is (The Wellers) ..just could not figure out what password we put in, lol ....anyways we ended up going to this place called Prairie Creek Settlement (P.C.S.) also known as The Church of Acts over in Richland, MO and what was suppose to be a community of Messianic believers slowly changed in the course of 3 months into a "bridge community" meaning they compromise on Torah, (not that we exclude patience and mercy)but this became bold compromise which is not what we signed up for. I thank Yah He got us out of there because from what I understand all people of like mind who were so broken in spirit to being set apart by the increase of hypocrisy ended up leaving as well. Also that Yah rewards capitalism over communism, meaning you decide what is don't with the fruit of your labors and not others or one hypocritical leader (hint, hint ...lol).

Anyways its no longer just me and my wife who still hold to this idea, but two other married couples our age who are willing to do something with us as well. And I'm glad we went through this despite the financial catching up we had to do to get stable again because we now know well what NOT to do ...lol And let me refine the past statement on (Amish style community) ...We think it would be better to be a school where Messiah is Teacher and not men (John 8:31) and put Messiah (The Word -Torah and Gospels) on our hearts by memorizing scripture (as they did in the last great reformation) so we can walk in the power of His Word without stumbling and be as those who have truly been set free by the Son of Yah and sin no more, being bond servants to righteousness in the Messiah.

Well sorry for the late reply I am thankful for all your suggestions and prayers ...we have not checked on this post for months because we lost heart in it after seeing nothing after a week. But we may contact you who have made offers. And yes I am willing to split the cost of land with people if in OK where I live. Or better yet if anyone has land but dont use it for anything why not give to us ...for I drive a big truck across the mid west and see lots of land abandoned or not even being put to use.

Thanks again and Shalom ...Shalomiel, and Brandi Weller. Also for you that are able to make petition pray that the people running that place I mentioned above repent because I hear things of sin leading to death in the camp. Thanks

my e-mail is wordimplanted@live.com

we love what you said. Because the same exact thing happened ...about silencing a guest at the "community" we lived at....that was one of the signs that we were trying to be turned into a cult. sorry but Messiah is my leader and teacher...not man. Thanks so much for your input! Also I just added you to facebook! my name is brandi weller

That makes a lot of sense. Your husband will be lead by Yah as he is a believer and your example of Torah observance and the Feasts will be the best. In time your husband will see the truth of the scriptures particularly in the Feast as it so clearly points to Yeshua and as a believer that may win him over towards a deeper messianic understanding. Blessings. www.messianicfellowship.ca

I (Shamayon) remember seeing this same question posted some time ago on this forum. I have hesitated to respond as it seems that there are so many different views these days as to what it should look like for “believers” to live in close proximity of one another, sharing life in a “community” setting.....but from our view point much of what we see these days in believers is so different to what it would have been like to live in close proximity of father Abraham…..the man who is the earthly father of the covenant we are to live by as the Yasharim of Yasharal (“Israel”).

To us, what it looks like to live together in close proximity to one another from a thorah perspective is much more important than the concept of simply living together in community for the sake of fellowship.

That being said, there is an opportunity where we are to live and experience the vital, thorah-centered, agrarian life as Father Yahwah has called us to live.....in the midst of other nations and their “worldly” cultures, yet distinctly free of their defiling way of life. A life free of forbidden images of that with the breath of life in it. A life free of harmful and unclean things that damage our bodies. A life free of words derived from the names of mighty ones other than the all-mighty Yahwah. A life free of celebrations rooted in pagan traditions. A life free of the teachings of the pastors, rabbis, shamans, priests, and other spiritual leaders of the false traditions of the religions of man, and focused on the thorah-centered commandments, statutes and judgements of Yahwah. A life free of the bondage of sin/lawlessness (thorahlessness).

More yet, a life centered upon the seventh day Shabath as reckoned by the moon and the first light of the day. A life centered upon life-giving, undefiled and pure organic food. A life centered upon the beauty of animal sacrifice by undefiled hearts and hands. A life centered upon being clothed in clothing made from non-mixed natural fibers. A life centered upon the Creator-centered agrarian life. In short, a life full of the life-giving vitality of the ancient paths where there is rest for our souls.

If this is what one is looking for we have a place in Central America where there are Yasharim who focus on living and growing in the unadulterated thorah-centered life and looking forward to the eventual true restoration of the covenanted children of Abraham to the land of Yasharal. Here we embrace the agrarian life, raising organic crops, beef, lamb, and goat.....free of the contamination of the corrupted world. Free of the bondage of the ways of fallen man and his governments.....and full of life and the provision of the eternal Father.

Are we “different”? ....Yes. And thankful for it.

If this is what you are seeking then please feel free to contact us at haYasharim@yahoo.com

Sincerely,

Shamayon and Rabkah

shalom,
how did your search go? my wife and i are in the same boat as you all.
did Yah answer your prayers?
bill from rhode island

We have been praying about this as well and all you share is just what our hearts are longing for. We are VERY ready! Keep us updated and feel free to contact us:
leenorwood2000@yahoo.com