Is anybody here going to keep Passover according ot the law of Moses? I'd like to.

I do. Except for killing the animal.

According to the Torah the only place we can sacrifice an animal is at the Temple in Jeu. Our sacrifice must be in the place where God has put his name.
There are many good sites that teach us what to do for passover and almost all Massinac congerations have an open seeder for Passover. Check your local area for a place to go. Learn to do it the right way and next year you can get some of your fellow believers over to join you. We are having our own for the first time this year. God Bless to all of you and stay in there.

Exodus 12:

8 "That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast."

11 "This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is Yahweh's Passover."

14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to Yahweh—a lasting ordinance. 15 For seven days you are to eat bread made without yeast. On the first day remove the yeast from your houses, for whoever eats anything with yeast in it from the first day through the seventh must be cut off from Israel. 16 On the first day hold a sacred assembly..."

I am coming to the conclusion that there is some confusion regarding Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread for in Lev 23 it states that on the 15th day we are to eat unleavened bread for 7 days. But the Passover was also to be eaten with unleavened bread. That makes 8 days.

So we have a day that is to be commemorated
with no bread with yeast for 7 days buuuuutttt


Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto Yahweh: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

Exodus 12:18
In the first month you are to eat bread made without yeast, from the evening of the fourteenth day until the evening of the twenty-first day.

14,15,16,17,18,19,20

Note that it does not say until the twenty-second day

So I guess the confusion is whether Passover is the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread?

How is Passover to be commemorated?
How did HaMashiach commemorate it?
And aside from the Sabbath and no bread with yeast -
what else are we to be doing that is out of the ordinary? Or is this "feast" to be a kind of an atonement festival where we're on bread and water for 7 days?

Mark 14:22-23 While they were eating, Yeshua took bread,.... Then he took a cup.......

What were they eating? (It probably wasn't fried chicken.)

Luke 22:15
And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer."

This is going to take a lot of typing. Passover and Unleaven bread total eight days as does the Feast of Booths. They are the only 8 day feast of of the people. The Passover Lamb was slain at twilight or dusk and according to most sages this is anytime after 3:00PM. (Remember they didn't have daylight saving time) Yeshua died on the cross at 3:00PM just like the lambs for the passover meal did. We have confusion in the Brit because it says that Yeshua ate the Passover with his deciples and yet the next day was the day of preperation for the Jews and they couldn't go into the Romans else they would be unclean for the feast. This is because Yeshua did Passover on the 14th and the Pharsies had changed it to the 15th as the first day of unleaven bread and Passover combined was day one of the feast for them. Remember that Yeshua told them that thier problem was that they didn't follow the teachings of Moshe. This was one of those times. Most people ate the Passover meal just before sundown on the 14th and starter the Feast of Unleaver Bread after Sunset. Hence 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21st. It is also believed that John the Baptist was born the day of Passover and Circumcisied the last day of Unleaven Bread, His 8th Day. Yeshua was born the first day of Tabernacles and circumcisied the 8th or last day. They were 6 mounths apart as are the Feast of Passover and the Feast of Booths.

I hope you're not finished.

Yea I am for now. I gave your the short teaching because I have a teaching to prepare for Friday and my congeration comes first. They don't pay me because I am like Paul, I teach for free. I always figured that if they don't pay me they cant fire me and everyone loves getting anything for free. I so love to teach YHVH's word to eager listners.

Still looking for answers

We are to commemorate Passover with the Passover seeder on the eve of the 14 of Avib (this year the 17th of April), The Seeder plate is to have an unbroken leg bone of the lamb (we use the leg bone of a turkey like most do who can't find a lamb bone), Parsley, Romain Leaves, fresh sliced Horseradish,(shreaded is much to strong and store bought has leaven products in it most times)a mixture of raisans and apples chopped together to repersent the mud mixture that we used for making bricks in Egypt and a bowl of salt water to repersent the tears we shed in slavery. (Dip each item in the tears) We eat from this plate as we recount the story of the slavery and rescue from Egypt. This is eaten with unleaven bread (3 cups flour, 1/3 cup olive oil, 1tsp salt and 1 cup water. Kneed together and roll out and bake or grill. (This is really good but if you eat to much and are not use to it it is very binding) Each portion eaten is to be about the size of an olive.

Yeshua commemorated Passover just like Moses said to do it. At the last "Supper" he added the cup and bread to represent His broken body and His Blood of the re-newed coventnent.

We are to start the Feast of Unleaven Bread on the eve of the 15th (April 18) and observe this day as a High Shabbot. So we have Sabbath on the 13th, Passover on the 14th, and the Feast of Unleaven combined with a High Sabbath on the 15th. So prep on sunday day for the Passover and the High Sabbath that follows. Just don't eat yeast breads or rolls for the next 6 days and do Sabbath on it reagular day. the 21st.At the close of Shabbot we have the Feast of First Fruits with the Wave Offering but I dont have Barley to wave at theis time of year. I have snow still in the back yard.

You can eat anything you want as long as it containes no Yeast. We have beef brisket for fresh veggies and cooked whole wheat berries instead of rice or potatoesfor Passover dinner. We are having cold slice smoked chicken for the High shabbot.

A turkey leg?

Yes, a Turkey Leg. Or any leg bone. If you can find a leg shank bone from a butcher shop that does lamb then you can use it this year and freeze it for next year. The leg bone repersents the lamb with no broken bones. Remember they roasted the animal skined only with all the inards still in side.

I wonder what roasting "et al" symbolized. And even not a broken bone.

Interesting article here

PASSOVER UNDERSTANDINGS - TYPOLOGY OF THE LAMB
(SAMENESS and NOT THE SAME)

http://www.keithhunt.com/passover5.html

Where does one find requirements for a Passover seder in the scriptures? I haven't read about a leg bone, horseradish, parsley, romaine, raisins, etc. in the Torah. Where do these traditions come from? It sounds like someone is adding to the scriptures to me.

Also, from my study, it is a mistake to consider Passover as a day. The Passover was the sacrifice; it wasn't a day like the first day of the feast of unleavened bread is a day. This distinction makes a big difference in how the scriptures are read.

Additionally, it was mentioned how Yeshua said, "With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer." (Luke 22:15) The word translated 'desire' is interesting -- it means "longing, desire for what is forbidden." In the next verse, Yeshua says he wouldn't eat the Passover until it was fulfilled in the Kingdom of God. He seems to be saying that he really wanted to eat the Passover with the disciples but knew he wouldn't get to do so. He really wished for the cup to pass from him, too (Matt 26), but submitted to his Father's will.

Each individual must study and determine what is the Father's will and then act upon his/her convictions. Traditions of men should not be taught as the commandments of God (the stipulations for a 'seder' are rooted in Pharisaical Judaism, otherwise known as Rabbinical Judaism, not based upon the scriptures).

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Well I didn't want to say it, but......and wine from grapes only?
I'm doing pomegranate-non-alcohol.

Exodus 12:8
"That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast."

Numbers 9:11
"they are to do it on the fourteenth day of the second month at twilight. They are to eat the lamb, together with unleavened bread and bitter herbs."

And that is this afternoon April 17 at twilight

If you go to www.bondservantministries.net you can download a step by step Passover instruction for next year.

Well I had a delightful Passover experience. Went to the park on the beach that Yahweh cleared out by sending a thunderstorm around 6pm, so I was able to roast my lamb in the twilight that I later gratefully partook of with unleavened bread, bitter herbs and wine. It was almost romantic. (a little violin music please) Ran into a very nice Jewish woman yesterday who collecting money for some charity wished me a "Happy Passover." I informed her that I had a delightful meal the night before. She said, "I thought it was tonight." I said, I hate to tell you this buuutttt...." She then blurted out,"I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT." LOL But she did say my tzitzits were cute.

timing is most important ts

WHEN SHOULD THE PASSOVER BE OBSERVED?
By P. Scott Royer Jr.
1997, Revised July 2009
(All quotes are from the “The New Kings James Version of the Bible”)

The question as to what night the Passover should be observed often arises around Passover time from year to year. Historically, the Churches of God accepted that the Jews kept the Passover on a different evening than that of the Exodus and Jesus before His crucifixion. We now see a few of those churches debating and changing their observance of Passover and their definitions of the marking of the beginning of a day at sundown. In addition, some have their own unique calendar calculations. There are many individual opinions on how and when to keep God’s Holy Feastibles. But what do the scriptures actually say? Let us look at just this one question, when should we observe Passover?
Proving when Passover should be kept is not difficult at all. It can be proved from one chapter alone in the Bible, Exodus 12.

While reading one scripture alone out of context can be misleading, when you put all the scriptures together, the ones in Exodus 12 along with the rest of the Bible, it is clear when God intents that we should keep the Passover in relationship to the Days of Unleavened Bread.
Exodus 12:6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.

In Exodus 12:6 it is stated that the Passover lamb was to be keep up until the fourteenth day of the first month. We can deduct from this scripture that the Passover lamb was not to be killed on the thirteenth. The congregation was to kill it on the evening of the fourteenth, or as many recognize, the Hebrew literally means between the two evenings. Many argue as to when this is, the beginning of the fourteenth right after sunset, or near the end of the fourteenth, just before sunset and the beginning of the fifteenth of the month Abib. However, if the Passover lamb was to be killed and eaten on the fifteenth, would not this scripture state that the lamb was to be kept until the fifteenth? This is not the case. “Keep it until the fourteenth day” in verse 6 indicates the lamb was to be kept alive until the fourteenth day began and then was to be slaughtered for the Passover meal that same evening. If we continue to read this chapter the answer of exactly which day the Passover lamb was to be eaten will become clear.

Exodus 12:8 Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
God commanded the Israelites that they were to eat the Passover lamb “on that night”. Here we are not worried about the definition of what “between the evenings” means. The “night” time portion of a Biblical day can only be associated with one particular day at a time, there is no confusion. This verse says “Then they shall eat the flesh on that night”. What night does “that night” refer to? Most should concur that it refers to the Biblical day last mentioned in this context, that of the fourteenth as stated in verse 6.

Exodus 12:11 And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord’s Passover.
Those who want to argue about which day the Passover is on seem to concentrate only on the unclear scripture relative to the slaying of the Passover lamb between the two evenings. This is only half the story. The eating of the Passover lamb is just as important. In fact, God specifically states in this verse that the eating of the lamb is the Lord’s Passover. Obviously, the whole occasion of slaying the lamb and eating it is all part of Passover. But again, notice God’s emphasis in this verse -- the eating of the lamb is stated as the “Lord’s Passover.” When one realizes that the eating of the Passover lamb originally occurred on the fourteenth and that all other scriptures in the Bible state that the Passover is to be kept on the fourteenth, there is no confusion as to when the Passover lamb must be slain, it must be slain before it can be eaten.

Exodus 12:22 And you shall take a bunch of hyssop, dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two doorposts with the blood that is in the basin. And none of you shall go out of the door of his house until morning.
An important point that has been made in the past is that on the night of the first Passover, the Israelites were not to leave their homes -- not until the next morning where they able to leave them and go outside.
Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass at midnight that the Lord struck all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of livestock.

The Bible states that at midnight, God smote the firstborn of Egypt. This was the night of Passover, and though it does not state so directly, it will be obvious to those who will read the Bible simply for what it says, that all this happened on the night of the fourteenth. This will prove to be true after reading the related scriptures in Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. The night of the Passover, the slaying and eating of the lamb, God passing over the Israelites because of the blood on their doorpost and the slaying of the Egyptian firstborn all occurred on the same night. This was not the night when Israel left Egypt, the next night, as we shall see. This was the night of the fourteenth.

Verses 39 through 41 describe the slaying of the Egyptian firstborn, Pharaoh calling for Moses and telling him to take the Israelites and leave Egypt, the Israelites “spoiling” the Egyptians of their wealth, getting ready to leave and then actually starting their journey out of Egypt. All of this took some time, the preparation during the daylight portion of the fourteenth and the departure on the evening of the fifteenth as we see by reading verse 42.
Exodus 12:42 It is a night of solemn observance to the Lord for bringing them out of the land of Egypt. This is that night of the Lord, a solemn observance for all the children of Israel throughout their generations.

Verse 42 states that God brought Israel out of Egypt on a night of solemn observance. So we have another major event that the Bible clearly shows occurred at night, the departure from Egypt. It is impossible for the two major events described in this chapter to have occurred on the same night. The eating of the Passover Lamb had to occur on one night when the Israelites were not to leave their homes, the same night God "passed over" the Israelites and slew the Egyptian first born. The second event also occurred during the night, the night when God brought Israel out of Egypt. These events occurred on two subsequent nights.
This would be two different dates on the Hebrew calendar. The only question then is which two? We could possibly stretch things and come up with three choices if one wants to debate which actual dates these two events occurred on. They would be the nights of 13/14 or 14/15 or 15/16. When you think of it that way, it should narrow the selection down to only one spiritually correct decision without even looking at the other scriptures.
Leviticus 23:5-6 On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.

God states here that the Passover is “on the fourteenth day of the first month”. We have seen from Exodus the twelfth chapter that the Passover includes the killing of the lamb and the eating of that lamb. Passover begins at twilight as the thirteenth comes to a close, the Passover lamb is slain and then eaten, all on the fourteenth. Verse six states that the first day of Unleavened Bread is on the fifteenth – nothing relative to Passover is associated with the fifteenth, only the beginning of the seven Days of Unleavened Bread.
Numbers 9:2-5 Let the children of Israel keep the Passover at its appointed time. On the fourteenth day of this month, at twilight, you shall keep it at its appointed time. According to all its rites and ceremonies you shall keep it.” So Moses told the children of Israel that they should keep the Passover. And they kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the first month, at twilight, in the Wilderness of Sinai; according to all that the Lord commanded Moses, so the children of Israel did.

The key phrase here is “According to all its rites and ceremonies”. Does Passover only include the slaying of a lamb? No! All of it rites and ceremonies included the roasting of the lamb, eating the lamb with unleavened bread and bittern herbs, burning any leftovers before morning. When is the Passover and all its rites and ceremonies to be observed? As it is stated everywhere in God’s inspired word, “on the fourteenth”. When does it begin on the fourteenth? At twilight, at the beginning of the fourteenth. If Passover was to be on another day it would have been so stated as in “on the fifteenth at twilight”. But this is never the case. Those who argue about what the Bible means when it say “between the two evenings” and want to keep Passover on the night of the fifteenth have no scriptural support. They would have to kill and eat the Passover lamb, or partake of the Passover symbols that Jesus Christ gave us, at the close of the fourteenth and quickly finish before the fifteenth began. But this they do not do. And that is not acceptable as we have already seen that the Passover was to be eaten during the "night" time portion of the fourteenth as first observed in Exodus 12. Verse 5 again states that Passover is “on the fourteenth”, yes, at twilight, but twilight of the fourteenth, not twilight on the fifteenth.

Numbers 9:10-12 Speak to the children of Israel, saying: If anyone of you or your posterity is unclean because of a corpse, or is far away on a journey, he may still keep the Lord’s Passover. On the fourteenth day of the second month, at twilight, they may keep it. They shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. They shall leave none of it until morning, nor break one of its bones. According to all the ordinances of the Passover they shall keep it.
A “second Passover” for those on a journey or defiled was instituted in these verses. There was no “second Days of Unleavened Bread”. The person on a journey or defiled was to keep the seven day feast of Unleavened Bread always in the first month no matter their location or situation. The point being, there is no Holy Day on the fifteenth of the second month upon which to eat the “second Passover”. The “second Passover” was to be kept on the fourteenth day of the second month. The “second Passover” with its instructions that state the Passover lamb was to be eaten with unleavened bread and bitter herbs according to all the ordinances of the Passover help prove that no part of the Passover can take place on the fifteenth.

Numbers 28:16-17 On the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover of the Lord. And on the fifteenth day of this month is the feast; unleavened bread shall be eaten for seven days.
“On” the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover. “On” the fifteenth day of' the same month begins the feast for seven days. Passover and the first day of Unleavened Bread, a Holy Day, are always mentioned in the Old Testament as separate events on separate days. Confusion arises when following what the Jews did in New Testament times because they did not follow these Bibical instructions. We should obey the instructions of God’s inspired word, not the customs of the Jewish religion when they differ from the Bible.

Numbers 33:3 They departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the day after the Passover the children of Israel went out with boldness in the sight of all the Egyptians.
The Bible states that the children of Israel departed from Ramses on the fifteenth, “on the day after the Passover.” Exodus 12:42 quoted above clearly states Israel left Egypt during the night time portion of the Biblical day. It should be easy for anyone who will simply accept what the Bible says word-for-word that the Passover is on the evening and night of the fourteenth and that the “night of solemn observance” celebrating the departure from Egypt is on the night of the fifteenth. These two events are closely related to each other but they are two separate events with no overlap in their timing – they are sequential over a two day period.

Deuteronomy 16:1 Observe the month of Abib, and keep the Passover to the Lord your God, for in the month of Abib the Lord your God brought you out of Egypt by night.
We see again that God brought Israel out of Egypt by night (and we remember God forbid the Israelites to leave their homes on the night of the Passover on the fourteenth). There are no dates mentioned in this chapter which summarizes the three “pilgrimage feast” – the specifics of all seven feasts and holy days is not detailed in this chapter. The first few verses of this chapter describe both the Passover and leaving Egypt by night which begins the seven days of eating unleavened bread without mentioning any calendar dates.
Deuteronomy 16:6 but at the place where the Lord your God chooses to make His name abide, there you shall sacrifice the Passover at twilight, at the going down of the sun, at the time you came out of Egypt.

God commands that the Passover lamb be sacrificed “at the going down of the sun”. The Jews who keep their Passover on the fifteenth do not slay the Passover lamb at the going down of the sun. From many historical references we learn that the Jews would sacrifice the Passover lambs starting as early as noon and continuing until around 6 pm. The Jews departed a long time ago from what God stated regard this matter. Reread this verse. Can there be any doubt when the Passover is to be sacrificed? God is very specific about when the Passover is to be sacrificed, “at the going down of the sun”.

The Jews and their liberal interpretation of between the two evenings ignore this plain and very clear scripture that leaves no doubt. And to repeat an important point once again, the Passover lamb was to be eaten on the same night as it was slain, the night of the fourteenth. The only Biblical conclusion one can come to is that the slaying of the Passover lamb must be at the going down of the sun at the beginning of the fourteenth, not at the end of the fourteenth. The phrase “at the time you came out of Egypt” can refer to one of two things. One, referring to the overall time period when Israel came out of Egypt, or, two, that Israel left Egypt at the same time in the evening as when they had eaten the Passover the night before, but obviously on two different nights as we have clearly seen from the previous scriptures. The Bible does not contradict itself.

2 Chronicles 35:1 Now Josiah kept a Passover to the Lord in Jerusalem, and they slaughtered the Passover lambs on the fourteenth day of the first month.
As we have seen from many scriptures, the Passover lambs were slaughtered on the fourteenth. The word “day” is in italics as is “lambs”. Most Bible students realize this convention is used in many Bible translations to indicate that the word in italics is not in the original Hebrew or Greek, but has been added by the translators in their attempt to make the translation more readable according to their understanding of the scriptures. The original Hebrew in this verse simply states “… and they slaughter the Passover-offering on the fourteenth of the first month.” (Young’s Literal Translation of the Bible)

2 Chronicles 35:14 Then afterward they prepared portions for themselves and for the priests, because the priests, the sons of Aaron, were busy in offering burnt offerings and fat until night;…
The slaughtering and eating of the Passover lamb and burnt offerings went on for many hours into the night. Which night was this? Verse 16 combined with verse 1 of the chapter answer this question.
2 Chronicles 35:16 So all the service of the Lord was prepared the same day, to keep the Passover and to offer burnt offerings on the altar of the Lord, according to the command of King Josiah.
The slaughtering of the lamb, the burnt offerings, the eating of the Passover lamb and burnt offerings all took place “the same day”. Verse one tells us which day that was, “the fourteenth.”
There are many other scriptures in the Bible about the Passover. Many do not give a date for the keeping of the Passover, they just describe what happened on this religious event. Those that give a day for the observance all state that the Passover was kept on the fourteenth. See Joshua 5:10, 2 Chronicles 30:15; Ezra 6:19; Ezekiel 45:21
John 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He should depart from this world to the Father, …

In the old Kings James version of the Bible this scripture might seem to be saying that Jesus ate the Passover meal with His disciples before the Feast of the Passover. However, most modern translations give a more proper rendering of this verse.
Young’s Literal Translation of the Bible: And before the feast of the passover, Jesus knowing that his hour hath come, that he may remove out of this world unto the Father, …
New Living Translation: Before the Passover celebration, Jesus knew that his hour had come to leave this world and return to his Father.

Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the New Testament: Now Jesus having known, before the feast of the passover, that his hour was come,
This verse is not saying that Jesus ate the Passover meal before the Passover, but that before He ate the Passover meal, He knew that His death would occur on the day of this Passover.
Matthew 26:17 Now on the first day of the Feast of the Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying to Him, “Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?”

We must be careful when reading the four gospel accounts of Jesus keeping the Passover and His crucifixion. Note again the words “day of the Feast” are in italics and not in the original Greek. When you read this scripture without those added English words it makes more sense – the first time unleavened bread was eaten was at the Passover meal on the fourteenth. To the Jews that kept Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread, the total period is eight days. Just as many of us tend to think of Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread as one large occasion with several important events, so did the Jews of Jesus' day. Because the language of Exodus 12:18 and other scriptures state unleavened bread must be eaten with the Passover, plus the seven days of Unleavened bread, many tended to think of an eight day period of unleavened bread and they commonly referred to and called the whole eight day period as either Passover or the Days of Unleavened Bread. Leavened bread is commanded to be absent from our homes for only the seven days of the feast. But unleavened bread must be eaten on the Passover night of the fourteenth. Leavened bread could be eaten and could be in the home on the fourteenth, but with traveling to Jerusalem by many for Passover, their homes would be free of leaven before they left, eight or more days.

This is a simple matter and there has never been any confusion as to understanding the timing of this scripture relative to the beginning of the first Holy Day of Unleavened Bread a day later. Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the New Testament states in his comments on this scripture: “As the feast of unleavened bread did not begin till the day after the passover, the fifteenth day of the month, Leviticus 23:5, 6; Numbers 28:16, 17, this could not have been, properly, the first day of that feast; but as the Jews began to eat unleavened bread on the fourteenth, Exodus 12:18, this day was often termed the first of unleavened bread. The evangelists use it in this sense, and call even the paschal day by this name. See Mark 14:12; Luke 22:7.” Barnes’ Notes on the New Testament: “The feast continued “eight” days, including the day on which the paschal lamb was killed and eaten, Exo. 12:15. That was the fourteenth day of the month Abib, answering to parts of our March and April.” Life Application Bible Commentary: Matthew: “The Passover took place on one night and at one meal, but the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which was celebrated with it, would continue for a week. The first day of the feast was technically the day after Passover, but the two were combined because they occurred in the same month. Thus, this was either Wednesday night (the day before Passover) or Thursday of Jesus’ last week (the night of the Passover meal). Two main questions emerge. First, was this Last Supper a Passover meal? Most likely it was. In John, Jesus seems to have this meal on the evening before Passover. But the synoptic writers (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) identify this meal as a Passover meal (Matthew 26:18; Mark 14:12-16; Luke 22:7-16). Certain descriptions in the Gospels indicate that this was a Jewish Seder:”

While many Bible commentators can figure out that Jesus kept the Passover on the fourteenth as described in Exodus 12, they seem to have difficulty understanding that not everyone was keeping the Passover at the same time. Why they assume there was total religious unity on these topics back then when there is none in this day and age is something to wonder about. And of course, many commentaries get the days of the week wrong regarding the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus and all related events.
Bible commentaries are quoted in this article mainly for their historical perspective. We should trust in the scriptures themselves for our understanding, not the commentaries. Commentaries, however, can add interesting facts and points of view. Often they miss the point or are just plain wrong in their understanding of the scriptures. With the variety of commentaries and with the current proliferation of the internet, among all the different points of views written in these mediums, an individual can search and likely find someone else who agrees with their point of view no matter how divergent that view might be.
Matthew 26:19-20 So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they prepared the Passover. When evening had come, He sat down with the twelve.

Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the New Testament: states relative to verse 20: “It is a common opinion that our Lord ate the passover some hours before the Jews ate it; for the Jews, according to custom, ate theirs at the end of the fourteenth day, but Christ ate his the preceding even, which was the beginning of the same sixth day, or Friday; the Jews begin their day at sunsetting, we at midnight. Thus Christ ate the passover on the same day with the Jews, but not on the same hour. Christ kept this passover the beginning of the fourteenth day, the precise day and hour in which the Jews had eaten their first passover in Egypt. See Exodus 12:6-12. And in the same part of the same day in which the Jews had sacrificed their first paschal lamb, viz. between the two evenings, about the ninth hour, or 3 o’clock, Jesus Christ our passover was sacrificed for us: for it was at this hour that he yielded up his last breath; and then it was that, the sacrifice being completed, Jesus said, It Is Finished.”
Most of the Churches of God have correctly understood that in the year of Jesus' crucifixion, the first Holy Day was on a Wednesday night/Thursday day. Jesus kept the Passover on the previous Tuesday night, then went to the garden of Gethsemane on the Mount of Olives around 9 pm and prayed until around midnight, was arrested by the Jews shortly thereafter, tried by the Jews during the darkness of what we call Wednesday morning, taken before Pilot during the day light portion of early Wednesday morning, crucified around 9 am on that Wednesday and died about six hours later at approximately 3 pm.

It should come as no real surprise that the Jews kept the Passover at a time other that what God originally commanded. Just as we today see different groups from the Churches of God and even the original large body of the church changing the observance of Holy Days and doctrines, so did different groups of religious Jews have different beliefs and doctrines. There were three major religious groups at the time of Jesus: the Sadducees, the Pharisees and the Essenes; and they all had slightly different views and customs relative to the religious practices of the Torah or what we call the Old Testament. The Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection of the dead (Matt 22:23, Acts 23:8). It is fairly well know these different Jewish groups kept Pentecost on different days. It should then be no real great surprise that Jesus and His disciples and the New Testament Church of God kept the Passover at a different time than many or most of the Jews, they kept it as God originally gave it and commanded it to be kept forever.

Jesus and His disciples kept the Passover on the evening of the fourteenth. Jesus was crucified on the daylight portion of the fourteenth, and died around three hours before sunset and the beginning of the first Holy Day of Unleavened Bread, which is the beginning of the fifteenth. This, as we know, was after He had given what we refer to as the New Testament symbols for the Passover the evening and night before. Jesus did not die “between the two evenings” or “at the going down of the sun”. We must also remember the Israelites were commanded to offer the daily sacrifice, a lamb in the morning and a lamb in the evening. Many references fix the time of these sacrifices around 9 am and 3 pm.
Mark 15:30 Now it was the third hour, and they crucified Him.
Mark 15:33-34 Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “EloiEloi, EloiEloi, lamalama sabachthanisabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
From Mark 15 we see that the crucifixion of Jesus began around 9 am as we count time today. Darkness covered the land from noon until 3pm at which time Jesus died. It would seem that Jesus was crucified around the time of the morning sacrifice and died around the time of the evening sacrifice. Why God the Father chose to have the timing of the events of Jesus’ last day of this earth occur as they did, we cannot reason why. All we can do is read the scriptures and accept what we read.

In this day and age shortly before the “Second Coming” of Jesus Christ we must contend for the faith originally delivered to the saints. This includes how the Passover was originally kept for over 40 years in the Church of God. As has been shown from the scriptures of the Bible without arguing over the Hebrew and Greek or other scholarly studies, the Passover sacrifice was killed as the sun went down at the beginning the fourteenth of the first month. The Passover meal was eaten the night of the fourteenth. The Israelites left Egypt at night on the fifteenth, and in following years, observed this momentous occasion as a night of solemn observance, or as we call it today “the night to be much remembered / observed”.
It should also be remembered that the Jews as a whole rejected Jesus Christ as their savior, their spiritual Passover lamb. They did not recognize Him as such when He came to this earth born of a woman. Part of their rejection of Jesus as Messiah can be directly related to the fact that they rejected God's instructions on the proper keeping of the Passover. You cannot reject God's instructions on how to keep a feast of God and spiritually expect to understand what it represents, nor be aware of its literal fulfillment.

When will you keep Passover? As given by God in Exodus 12 and observed by our Savior Jesus Christ? Those whose’ eyes and ears are spiritually open should have no problems proving that the Passover is on the fourteenth. Let us hope and pray that our eyes and ears are not closed to these truths as clearly stated in God’s inspired scriptures.

Let's see. The Bible says that on the 1st day of the week the women went to the empty tomb. (Just to keep things simple let's call that Sunday) That would be the day after the Sabbath. HaMoshiach said he would be in the tomb for 3 days and three nights. Let's count

He was killed on the Passover/Preparation day - and was in the tomb for part of that day and stayed there during the Sabbath night/day - That's two days and one night and arose on the 3rd day - (1st day) following the night.

That's two nights and three days.

Friday, Sabbath, Sunday

How does anyone conclude that HE ate the Passover on the previous Tuesday?



And of course the other thing is that he said Three Nights - not two - so we have this conundrum that either he was wrong or somebody made a mistake in translation. I'll go with the latter.

Ist Day of Unleavened Bread to Wave Sheaf Fulfillment
Passover

Time lines and events with supporting scriptures charted
Nice to print out for study.

http://www.cog-pkg.org/publications/PassOverChart2.pdf

I'm still trying to get the connection between Passover and Unleavened Bread for 7 days. What does one have to do with the other, why unleavened bread, and why 7 days? What are we supposed to be understanding now that is different than say next week? I realize that obedience requires doing things we don't always understand and I appreciate that this is an 8 day period that seems to line up the 8 day fall festival. I'm just wondering if there's something everybody else gets that I don't.

The Hebrew's were commanded to eat unleavend bread with the passover meal. After leaving Egypt the next day they had no choice but to eat unleavend bread for the next 7 days because they were on the march to a place called Succott. There the Lord had them wait for the Eghptians and that was the first time that they could have time to make yeast bread. What we are to do is remember that time by eating unleavend bread for the same length of time. Unleavend bread is also to teach us to be humble before the Lord. We don't have to eat much each day but the command is to eat it every day.

That's as good of an explanation as I've heard.

It strikes me that since we keep this Feast that it's either that we are claiming to be descended from Israel and are commemorating this journey in the wilderness that led to being rescued by Elohim at the Red Sea, and/or that there must be a personal spiritual aspect involving our baptism into HaMoshiach's death at Passover. For at our baptism we made public declaration that we were enemies of YHVH's enemy as personified by Pharaoh who would pursue us relentlessly and that would require rescue by Yahweh - less we be drowned in a sea of demon assisted afflictions, as well as protected all along the way. It just strikes me that if there is not that personal component then we're simply being Feast Keepers.

Shabbat Shalom

When the Hebrew came out of Egypt they didn't come out alone. All the foreign slave lived in Goshen with the Hebrew and they saw how the Plagues effected only the Egyptians so when they, the Hebrews, painted the blood of the lamb on thier door post they did also. Scripture says they came out as a "mixed congeration". As a matter of fact the first person stoned for taking the Lords name in vain was a 1/2 Egyptian. It happened in a fight with a Hebrew. According to most Messianic teachers when you confess faith in Yeshua and keep Torah in honor of Him you become Hebrew also and that is why we keep the "Feasts".

Any Scriptures or links to go with this besides Ex 12:38?

Exo 13:5 "When YHVH brings you into the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Hivites and Jebusites—the land he swore to your ancestors to give you, a land flowing with milk and honey—you are to observe this ceremony in this month: 6 For seven days eat bread made without yeast and on the seventh day hold a festival to YHVH. 7 Eat unleavened bread during those seven days; nothing with yeast in it is to be seen among you, nor shall any yeast be seen anywhere within your borders. 8 On that day tell your son, ‘I do this because of what YWVH did for me when I came out of Egypt.’ 9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of YHVH to be on your lips. For YHVH brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand. 10 You must keep this ordinance at the appointed time year after year."

Feast of Unleavened Bread; Exd. 12:15, 12:17, 12:18, 13:6,
13:7, 23:15, 34:15, Lev. 23:6, Num.28:17, Deu. 16:3, 16:8, 2Ch.35:17, Ezr.6:22, Eze.45:21 Are just a few.

Where do you find this account?

Leviticus 24:10 There was a man who was the son of a woman of Isra'el and an Egyptian father. He went out among the people of Isra'el, and this son of a woman of Isra'el had a fight in the camp with a man of Isra'el,
11 in the course of which the son of the woman of Isra'el uttered the Name [Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh] in a curse. So they brought him to Moshe. (His mother's name was Shlomit the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan.)
12 They put him under guard until ADONAI would tell them what to do.
13 ADONAI said to Moshe,
14 "Take the man who cursed outside the camp, have everyone who heard him lay their hands on his head, and have the entire community stone him.
15 Then tell the people of Isra'el, 'Whoever curses his God will bear the consequences of his sin;
16 and whoever blasphemes the name of ADONAI must be put to death; the entire community must stone him. The foreigner as well as the citizen is to be put to death if he blasphemes the Name.

You should spend a lot of time in prayer before you post junk like this Ron Wyatt stuff. This man was a phoney as a $19.00 Dollor bill. The only reason people get taken in by someone like this is because they don't know the Bible and what it says about God. They are always looking for someone else to do the hard digging for them and then because they are not "grounded in the word" they beleive smooth tounged speekers like this man. He makes it sould so true that you have to believe him. God has never offered to show us prof of His word. We are "blessed because we don't see and still believe." This discovery of the ark is more like a Morman story than a true story. He has no ARK and they had no tablets of GOLD.

(you should work on your spelling instead of trying to decide for everyone else what's truthful)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AbVOdRigOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGLPADW_kUw

"It is too bad that most scientists will not go out to confirm nor debunk Ron Wyatt's discoveries. All they can do is take pot shots from their chairs.

They really need to take a submersible camera and explore the Red Sea on both sides of the crossing to see and to record for themselves of coral formations over chariot wheels and rib cages at the bottom of the sea.

But given the persecution that the world has for the truth to withhold it in unrighteousness, it is highly possible that some did go out and were threatened with descreditation and loss of position if they published their findings: course, the scientific establishment could just as well deny any funding to such a project to keep anyone from going out there to do a "professional" job: even to show up this amateur Indiana Jones... but strangely... no takers.

Christian scientists have gone out there like to the site of Sodom and Gomorrah, but of course, any "christian" label rolls the eyes of any reader or researcher in the field.

The world will continue to look the other way while withholding the truth in unrighteousness.

So as far as the Blood of Jesus goes: I had read that the site was excavated and the ark was no longer there. Ron Wyatt site had pulled the pages of the blood and the ark, but that doesn't mean anything since the Jewish authorities could have moved it and wish to keep it out of the press for fear of terrorists or thieves or a religious upheavel in getting that Temple built.

Ron has made significant discoveries so there is no need to frabricate anything.

What was at the site was huge jars, but it is obvious that Ron knows he had been had. Maybe he lost direction in those tunnels upon his revisit to the site... maybe they were digging or excavating the wrong site... or maybe other forces are at work to discredit the finding and hide it from the public.

Ron got the blood from somewhere:

Tests were done but obviously due to religious uprisings, anonymity would be needed for the protection of those that did the test as well as to their careers.

He is risen is all the proof we need as believers.

The world dragging their feet to the discoveries sites proves a reluctance to confirm and to know the truth, but Jesus Christ will be giving a wake up call as the Bridegroom and soon.

Why do we doubt everything so? I have a feeling if Christ Himself came down from heaven and tap some of you on the shoulder and says: I am He, you still wouldn't believe! What would it take?"

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/christian...l#ixzz1KjhKBd6W

Please remember to be "meek and gentle" with one another....even if the post had errors in it....gentleness is required when bringing correction...

patience, long suffering, etc.

We are all here to learn grow and share...

It's not enough to "know the Bible" if you we don't walk in love and compassion with the knowledge we have...

We ALL need to grow in this area...remember how we speak to another brethren is how we speak to the Messiah...when you did it unto the least of these you did it unto me...

If we all look at our fellow brethren as though we were looking into the eyes of Yahushua I do believe we would temper our words with love, our corrections with caution and our conversations with fear....

I speak these words to myself as well...

Ive just been grieved lately as I witness in the chat room on the Shabbat "arguments" disguised as fellowship, sarcasm as correction, we need to remember every idle word we answer for....eeeek
Fear and trembling....

May Yahweh baruk all and guide the words of our mouths to be pleasing to him....