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#112777 - 02/23/11 05:06 PM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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I've noticed every time we mess with Israel in any way...things happen here. I have wondered if when or if we "part that land" if ours will be parted... maybe there is a connection to this, FEMA is planning for a disaster in that area...this is FEMA explaining what will be taking place...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqOVWBgBXY

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#112901 - 04/27/11 02:57 AM Re: Israel [Re: rainbow]
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"1* Gen 17:7 speaks of an unconditional everlasting covenant with the physical seed of Abraham. Lev 26:44-45 shows that Israel’s restoration was not to be conditional. Isa 11:11 speaks of a second restoration of the Jews. Isa 26:20-27:1 speaks of a final hiding of the children of Israel followed by Satan’s complete judgment. Isa 27:12-13, in context with the above, speaks of a final re-gathering of Israel. Jer 30:4-8 speaks of the time of Jacob’s trouble and future restoration. Jer 30:18-24 states that a restoration for the tents of Jacob will take place in the latter days, i.e. not the first restoration of 536BC. Jer 31:35-37 speaks of the permanent nation of Israel. Jer 33:24-26 is a definitive unconditional covenant with Jacob’s descendants. Eze 16:60-63 speaks of an unconditional everlasting covenant with the Jews.
Eze 37:1-28 speaks of an unconditional future restoration of Israel, followed closely by Armageddon in Exe 38-39. Hos 11:9-10 speaks of a future restoration of Israel from the West. Joe 3:1-3 predicts the restoration of Judah, followed by Armageddon. Amo 9:11-15 speaks of an Israel restored to the land. Zec 8:8 speaks of a post-exilic, unconditional restoration of the Jews to Jerusalem and the land. Zec 10 and 12 are more prophecies of a future restoration of the Jews. Zec 14 speaks of Armageddon, with the Jews in Jerusalem. Luk 21:24 speaks of a dispersion, the time of the Gentiles, and a restoration following. Rom 11:11 states that the Jews have not fallen so as to be lost. Rom 11:17 states that only some of the branches were broken off. Rom 11:17 states that the church was grafted in among the Jews. Rom 11:28 states that the gospel-age Jews are still elect. Rom 11:29 states that God’'s calling of the Jews is irrevocable. Rev 7:4-9 speaks of the 12 tribes of Israel in the Christian Era. Rev 12:1-6 speaks of Israel in the Christian Era. Rev 15:3 is a passage primarily about the Christian Era; there are two songs, one for the Jews, one for the Gentile church."

"2* Simply stated, Replacement Theology is the belief that the Church, as adopted Israel, has totally replaced the physical seed of Abraham and that God is completely finished with the Jews of the Christian Era. This view holds that during this era, the Church is all the Israel there is. The Scriptures cited in the preceding footnote, plus Rom 11:15, stand directly against such a doctrine."

http://www.fishhouseministries.com/pdf/TFPChapters1-9.pdf
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#112922 - 05/14/11 06:59 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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Formal vote being planed in just four months by the UN to create a Palestinian state

This time the ‘ovens’ will be turned on by Hamas, Fatah and the UN

- Dr. Laurie Roth Thursday, May 12, 2011

"While all the distraction of Obama’s latest, contrived birth certificate, debt ceiling arguments, Osama Bin Laden’s demise and who might be the next President, we have a potential death knell circling our best ally in the Middle East, Israel. Anyone home?

Two deadly Muslim terrorist groups have now combined, Hamas and Fatah. For many years they were at each others throats, but now have joined. They have now set their weapons and rage aside to become one group that will run the ‘Palestinian state,’ steal more land from the Jews, and plan the deaths of countless more.

Just a small little detail with all the ‘getting along’ ‘peace making’ fun between these two groups Hamas and Fatah. They both have a written and declared goal to exterminate and destroy Israel. They also both have a bloody and prolific history of attacking and murdering Israelis. A two state solution effort is old news and has been put on the table again and again and again. Now, we see three crime families emerging, Hamas, Fatah, and the UN. Will the United States become the 4th crime family with Obama at the helm?

The horror of this time is not only the unification of these two Muslim terror groups, but a formal vote being planed in just four months by the UN to create a Palestinian state, manipulating, no doubt putting endless international and media pressure on Israel to give away even more land. They will be pressured, if not ‘forced’ by the UN to give away the heart of Jerusalem and ‘more land for contrived peace’ AGAIN.

The plan and pressure of this UN vote coming up in four months is to gut Jerusalem and give it to the Palestinians, give over the Golan Heights, much of Galilee and Negev. This would force Israel back to the 1967 lines, while Hamas and Fatah are planning the rest of their demise.

The playbook is old and boring already. Obama, the UN and even Hamas and Fatah all are standing with their ‘liberation’ ‘stand for the underdog’ costumes on. They have been standing against evil Apartheid all these years and it is only right to take back major chunks of land from Israel, while the world and media looks on in self righteous satisfaction. “You all get a whole bucket of victim candy for best ‘Destroy Israel costumes.’

This is a deadly and serious time for Israel. Israel must stand against ANY more schemes from ANYONE to give away one more inch of land anywhere in their country! No matter what the cost to Israel is, they must stand boldly with God and for what is right for them! It is time for a political and timely response given to Obama, the UN, Hamas and Fatah regardless of any vote, Muslim decree, meeting, threat list, or Obama wish list is:

We are a sovereign nation and will never again consider giving away more land. We will ONLY consider talking of a two state solution when Hamas and Fatah totally renounce Muslim terror and murders against Jews, rewrites their charters to say that Israel has the right to exist next to them, then advertise this to the Muslim world, and stops demanding another shred of fought for sovereign Israeli land.

Since none of this will happen, the only response to Obama, the UN, Hamas and Fatah from Israeli leadership should be: KISS MY JEWISH GRITS!"


Just Who is this Annie Oakley of the airwaves?
Laurie Roth has a Ph.D. in counseling and a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, is happily married and currently resides in Washington State. She is a singer/songwriter with five CD albums to her credit. She plays the piano, keyboard, and violin and has a voice that can penetrate your very soul. 
 

Laurie is also an accomplished Author, Cartoonist, and Artist.

She can be reached at: Drljroth@aol.com

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36440
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#112927 - 05/19/11 01:48 PM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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Obama says Palestine must be based in 1967 borders

"President Barack Obama is endorsing the Palestinians' demand for their future state to be based on the borders that existed before the 1967 Middle East war, in a move that will likely infuriate Israel. Israel says the borders of a Palestinian state have to be determined through negotiations.

In a speech outlining U.S. policy in the Middle East and North Africa, Obama on Thursday sided with the Palestinians' opening position a day ahead of a visit to Washington by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu is vehemently opposed to referring to the 1967 borders.

Until Thursday, the U.S. position had been that the Palestinian goal of a state based on the 1967 borders, with agreed land swaps, should be reconciled with Israel's desire for a secure Jewish state through negotiations."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_mideast_palestinians_1
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#112980 - 06/28/11 11:42 PM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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Shalom Rainbow

Originally Posted By: rainbow
I've noticed every time we mess with Israel in any way...things happen here. I have wondered if when or if we "part that land" if ours will be parted... maybe there is a connection to this, FEMA is planning for a disaster in that area...this is FEMA explaining what will be taking place...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqOVWBgBXY



Maybe doomsday is near

Bible prophecy may have a bad name in the light of Harold Camping's misguided date-setting, but the biggest sign of the end may have been overlooked in all the rapture hysteria of the May 21st weekend.

Once again, we saw the U.S. hit with a series of deadly superstorms following Barack Obama's pledge to return Israel to pre-1967 borders. Just days after Obama insisted Israel must give up lands it won through military victory with its enemies, some 200 people were killed by a tornado in Joplin, Mo.

There's a pattern here.

We saw it in Katrina, when George Bush forced Israel's withdrawal from Gaza. In fact, as everyone from Israeli rabbis to U.S. senators have noted, it seems to happen every single time the U.S. pressures Israel to divide the land. The phenomenon was best documented by Bill Koenig, author of "Eye to Eye: Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel."

Koenig points out that nine of the 10 costliest insurance events in U.S. history followed dramatic calls by U.S. officials for Israel to make land concessions in bids for peace with its neighbors. He points out with startling detail how six of the seven costliest hurricanes in U.S. history followed such events. He points out how three of the four largest tornado outbreaks in U.S. history followed such developments.

Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, even terrorist attacks have hit America often within 24 hours of calls by U.S. officials for Israel to withdraw from Jewish land.

What does this have to do with prophecy?...........READ MORE

http://superstore.wnd.com/


Edited by yonah1 (06/28/11 11:46 PM)
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#113058 - 08/14/11 04:15 AM Re: Israel [Re: jeff1]
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"The Greatest Event that the world has ever seen is now taking shape"

The regathering and rebirth
of Re-united 12-tribed Israel as foretold 3000 years in advance in the Bible



"This Event, according to hints given in the Bible, is to take place when the "Voice of the Turtle Dove" (Kol HaTor) is discerned. In addition, the main theme of Prophecy throughout the Bible entails the formation through return from exile across the world, of that seemingly invincible nation, the Jews - or, in its broader Biblical application - the nation of Israel.

It is our considered opinion, based upon our understanding of Biblical prophecy in relation to some amazing developments in the world today, that the signs of the era of Kol HaTor is now becoming clearly distinguishable. This Event to astound the world, is amply confirmed in the writings of Torah sages many centuries before there were any signs of such fulfillment of Prophecy.

It entails the miraculous rebirth of an entire nation from the annals of history - a nation which had been invincibly linked to the very Scriptures which foretold their history in advance - the nation of Israel.

The return of Jews to their Homeland since 1948, after 2000 years of exile and persecution amongst the nations is indeed such a Miracle. But, as if this was not miraculous enough, Kol Hator announces the national formation of even more absurd proportions: the re-identifying of the 'other House of Israel' consisting of 10 'Lost' Tribes, exiled and dispersed to oblivion amongst the nations of the entire world since 2800 years ago!......" http://www.kolhator.org.il/ , “Who has ever heard of such a thing?
Who has ever seen such things?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.”
(Isaiah 66:8).


Edited by yonah1 (08/14/11 05:15 AM)
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#113062 - 08/14/11 05:51 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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All this makes my mind think about how all this can come about and there's one interesting scenario in particular that might get some criticism from some who lack imagination and never watched Star Trek or read the Book of Exodus,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Matthew 24:41
"Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left." ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1 Corinthians 15:51,52
"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Edited by yonah1 (08/14/11 06:56 AM)
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#113063 - 08/14/11 06:40 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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"Although the Jewish People have been charged with a mission to reach out, touch, teach and to bring the whole-wide world closer to the One G-d of pure spirit and His Torah, there have been numerous obstacles. Indeed, some scholars have ventured the opinion that the failure of Judah to outreach, has necessitated the forming of several religions to get the Divine message out, albeit imperfectly. In fact the credit of translating the Bible into over 6000 languages, and distributing billions of copies to all the nations and tribes of the world is the achievement of mainly Protestant Evangelical nations, such as Great Britain and the United States of America. The Jewish representation in the Kol HaTor Project therefore apologize on behalf of Judah and ask forgiveness for not having done a better job. Yes, we are guilty - but guilty with an explanation: If you were, G-d forbid, exiled, punched, beaten, stepped upon, and tortured, YOU TOO WOULD NOT BE IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE AND FOR REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO REMIND YOU OF YOUR PERSECUTORS. THEN - WITH ASSIMILATION, ADOPTING STRANGE CULTURES - IN BRIEF: FACING AND DEALING WITH THE TEMPTATIONS OF VANISHING IN THE MELTING POTS OF VARIOUS SOCIETIES, the Jews have had a hard enough time holding onto their bare spiritual survival." http://www.kolhator.org.il/


Edited by yonah1 (08/14/11 06:52 AM)
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#113075 - 08/16/11 08:25 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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ONE DAY THAT SHOOK THE WORLD
By ELLI WOHLGELERNTER

(April 30) - The story behind the drafting and signing of Israel's Declaration of Independence was dramatic political theater, played out under war clouds poised to burst.

"We must all hang together or assuredly we shall all hang separately," Benjamin Franklin to John Hancock at the signing of the American Declaration of Independence, 1776.

Growing up in the United States, every pupil is taught stories about the Founding Fathers from an early age, about the 56 men who attached their names - and thereby their destinies - to the Declaration of Independence.

Those heroes, among them Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Hancock, and Benjamin Franklin, come to seem larger than life to many American schoolchildren, as they learn about how the 13 colonies threw off the yoke of the British Empire.

It is not surprising then, that when Golda Meyerson - later Meir - waited to step up to the podium to add her name to Israel's Declaration of Independence, her thoughts went back to the legends she learned as a child in Milwaukee, as she writes in her memoirs:

"From my childhood in America, I learned about the Declaration of Independence and the geniuses who signed it. I couldn't imagine these were real people doing something real. And here I am signing it, actually signing a Declaration of Independence. I didn't think it was due me, that I, Goldie Mabovich Meyerson, deserved it, that I had lived to see the day. My hands shook. We had done it. We had brought the Jewish people into existence.

"Whatever price any of us would have to pay for it, we had recreated the Jewish national home. The long exile was over. Now we were a nation like other nations, masters - for the first time in 20 centuries - of our own destiny," she continued.

"All I can recall about my actual signing of the proclamation is that I was crying openly, not able even to wipe the tears from my face... David Pincus asked me why I was crying and I said, 'one, because of the honor, and two, because there are people missing here... who had more of a right to be here and sign'... I wept almost beyond control."

Others may not have wept, yet they felt their date with destiny....."

http://info.jpost.com/1998/Supplements/Jubilee/2.html
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“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#113116 - 09/06/11 08:59 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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Edited by yonah1 (09/06/11 09:01 AM)
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#113118 - 09/10/11 02:58 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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"Egyptians break into Israel Embassy in Cairo,,,prompting the ambassador and his family to leave the country,,,," ,,http://www.washingtontimes.com/


Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace,,,,http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29
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“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#113161 - 09/26/11 10:23 AM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
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"Barbra Streisand Sings Hatikvah and Talks to Golda Meir"`` Hatikvah


Edited by yonah1 (09/26/11 10:49 AM)
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#113367 - 03/19/12 07:46 AM Re: Israel [Re: jeff1]
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Posts: 5
I want to live in a messianic community in Israel.

I live in the mountain in Hawaii. I just pitch a tent and knock down trees for a garden I have 2 others here and we want to start a messianic communal living to study torah and observe feast days. Email me on Facebook
Aaron Scott bullock

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#113377 - 03/28/12 02:17 PM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
Lady Minstrel Offline


Registered: 01/27/12
Posts: 4
Loc: california USA
Originally Posted By: yonah1
"The Greatest Event that the world has ever seen is now taking shape"

The regathering and rebirth
of Re-united 12-tribed Israel as foretold 3000 years in advance in the Bible



"This Event, according to hints given in the Bible, is to take place when the "Voice of the Turtle Dove" (Kol HaTor) is discerned. In addition, the main theme of Prophecy throughout the Bible entails the formation through return from exile across the world, of that seemingly invincible nation, the Jews - or, in its broader Biblical application - the nation of Israel.

It is our considered opinion, based upon our understanding of Biblical prophecy in relation to some amazing developments in the world today, that the signs of the era of Kol HaTor is now becoming clearly distinguishable. This Event to astound the world, is amply confirmed in the writings of Torah sages many centuries before there were any signs of such fulfillment of Prophecy.

It entails the miraculous rebirth of an entire nation from the annals of history - a nation which had been invincibly linked to the very Scriptures which foretold their history in advance - the nation of Israel.

The return of Jews to their Homeland since 1948, after 2000 years of exile and persecution amongst the nations is indeed such a Miracle. But, as if this was not miraculous enough, Kol Hator announces the national formation of even more absurd proportions: the re-identifying of the 'other House of Israel' consisting of 10 'Lost' Tribes, exiled and dispersed to oblivion amongst the nations of the entire world since 2800 years ago!......" http://www.kolhator.org.il/ , “Who has ever heard of such a thing?
Who has ever seen such things?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.”
(Isaiah 66:8).


Scripture tells us that this earth..and this heavens will be destroyed..and a NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH will be created..making it IMPOSSIBLE for Israel in Palestine to be of the promise made to Abraham..

And Revelation 18 shows us that Jerusalem in the end times is the haunt of devils..and will be destroyed...



I think the PROMISED LAND is no where on this planet...as this earth is 'marked for demolition' after the 1,000 years of Christ rule over the planet earth...as it is today......

The promised land comes out of Heaven...according to both old and new testaments...and its called the NEW JERUSALEM that comes out of heaven..AND this promise is made to ALL OF MANKIND THAT FOLLOWS JESUS CHRIST..

Zechariah 6:12 tells us that Christ will build the Temple of Yahweh....and both testaments tell us that the Temple of God dwells INSIDE of the Christian who follows Christ...

The promises are Spiritual....and not of the flesh..from what I see in BOTH testaments..

and the promises are made to ANYONE who follows Christ..This is mentioned in BOTH testaments..from what Ive read...

EXODUS 4:22...."Tell Pharoah..." ISRAEL IS MY SON...MY FIRST BORN."

Who is true Israel?


Edited by Lady Minstrel (03/28/12 02:19 PM)

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#113378 - 03/28/12 02:21 PM Re: Israel [Re: yonah1]
Lady Minstrel Offline


Registered: 01/27/12
Posts: 4
Loc: california USA
Originally Posted By: yonah1
"Barbra Streisand Sings Hatikvah and Talks to Golda Meir"`` Hatikvah


Golda Meir and Shimon Peres, previous Israeli Prime Ministers were both raised in these communist Kibbutzes...Communism is atheist..

So..whats going on here?

I found that an interesting piece of info..

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