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#112767 - 02/21/11 05:03 AM The church and why I do not wish to attend it
Alex_From_NZ Offline


Registered: 08/18/10
Posts: 19
Loc: New Zealand
Ok

I have been attending the so-called 'church' but I have problems with the church and its doctrines and why I will leave and try to look for people who follow Yahweh and his son Yeshua in my area (Lower Hutt/Wellington New Zealand)

1.Sunday Worship

Sunday is most certainly not the sabbath as I have read that the Roman Catholic Church made Sunday as the sabbath which is wrong

2.Baptism

I am not sure about why the Baptism,but I know the words Holy Spirit,Ghost,Jeseus and God are used

3.Why is the church greeting the RCC with open arms?

If anyone has read about the inquisition which the RCC and her Jesuit Order carried out,well the local Baptist Church had the dare to invite a Jesuit Priest or a Supreme Jesuit to speak a sermon..I have also heard of SDA,Protestant,Prybesterian churches doing the same thing aswell

4.The Church loves money

5.The Church preaches OSAS (once saved always saved)

6.The Church pray for divine healing but some are quite frustrated and demand it straight away

I know of a person who had broken his leg,well he and his family have been praying for healing from 'God and Jeseus' well they have been frustrated as to why no divine healing is happening

7.I know the church encouraged me to find a girlfriend in the same church,I seriously did not feel comfortable with that after they believe in Once Save Always saved and even invite a Supreme Jesuit to speak at a so-called sermon

By the way I am looking for someone to fellowship with as well and I live in the Lower Hutt area as well.

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#112768 - 02/21/11 09:09 AM Re: The church and why I do not wish to attend it [Re: Alex_From_NZ]
yonah1 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 306
8) There is no reverence for Yahweh's Name

And if there's no reverence for his name(or His Messiah's) then there's no reverence(or love) for what he/they instructed.

http://www.yrm.org/11-13-10-video.htm

http://christthecreativeword.org/Messages/the_name_that_is_above_every_nam.htm



Edited by yonah1 (02/21/11 09:12 AM)
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John 17:6

“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#112779 - 02/25/11 04:56 AM Re: The church and why I do not wish to attend it [Re: Alex_From_NZ]
Alex_From_NZ Offline


Registered: 08/18/10
Posts: 19
Loc: New Zealand
Ok

On Tuesday a 6.3 Magnitude Earthquake hit Christchurch,I am wondering if it is Yahweh's judgement as in Christchurch,civil union marriage (same gender marriage) are accepted,the cathedral,a Roman Catholic church and lots of buildings have been damaged,I am seriously wondering if Yahweh has passed judgement to Christchurch

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#112780 - 02/25/11 10:19 AM bump [Re: Alex_From_NZ]
yeshuaslave Offline


Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 176
Loc: tulsa
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Edited by yeshuaslave (02/27/11 05:34 AM)
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"...suffer persecution so
that, perhaps, take part in
resurrection..." Paul's letter

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#112782 - 02/27/11 02:15 PM Re: The church and why I do not wish to attend it [Re: Alex_From_NZ]
yonah1 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 306
Originally Posted By: Alex_From_NZ
Ok

On Tuesday a 6.3 Magnitude Earthquake hit Christchurch,I am wondering if it is Yahweh's judgment as in Christchurch,civil union marriage (same gender marriage) are accepted,the cathedral,a Roman Catholic church and lots of buildings have been damaged,I am seriously wondering if Yahweh has passed judgement to Christchurch


I'm wondering if there is judgment happening everywhere.

Luke 21:35-36 (King James Version)

"For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

http://www.v-a.com/a_funny_thing_happened_on_the_way_to_armageddon.html

A funny thing happened on the way to Armageddon


"American Christians used to say regarding the deity of Islam, "We worship God; you worship Ullah." This they didn't say to their faces, but behind their backs. Of course, everything has changed now; the current US President was raised Muslim and he refuses to mention the name of Jesus publicly, but he does say, "God bless you and God bless America." So finally the issue has been resolved, there is one God and He is the God of the Muslims as well at the God of the American Christians.

Now, this is truly a big deal, because until Obama came along the official US policy was that the Creator mentioned in the Bible was called God and that Jesus was the Christ, and Jesus was often referred to as the Lord. Today, the name of Jesus is hardly ever used officially and the name of God is reserved to the end of speeches, namely "God bless you and God bless America." As for the word "Lord", that is mentioned very seldom.

Ironically, the name of the Creator of the Universe first mentioned in the Scriptures is Allaha. In fact, there is never any mention of "God" anywhere in the Scriptures. And "Allaha" is the same word as "Ullah" (or Allah) in Arabic and "Elohim" in Modern Hebrew. So here is a major dilemma for the followers of the Messiah worldwide: the Easterners always called the Creator of the universe "Allaha" and the Westerners always called the Creator of the universe by other names, most of them a variation of "God" or "Good." In fact, in simplistic terms, the Western deity is called "Good" and the Devil or Satan is called "Evil" or the "evil one."

For centuries, Westerners and American Christians have been fighting with Islam over this issue. The Western and English Bibles have always used the word "God" for the Creator mentioned in the first book of the Bible and the Easterners and the Muslims have used the name of Allaha or Allah as the name of the Creator. However, the major disagreement centers on who has the biggest right toward being a genuine believer and who is the infidel. Wars have been fought between the Muslims and the Christians for over a thousand years and the winners of these wars have divided the world between them based on who was right. The people who always lost everything were the Easterners, because they were neither in agreement with Western Christianity in calling the Creator "God" nor were they in agreement with the Muslims in calling the Creator Ullah or Allah. The word Ullah or Allah is singular, but the word "Allaha" or "Elohim" is plural. Ironically, the words "Allaha" and "Elohim" do not refer to many Creators, and the words "Allaha" and "Elohim" refer to One Creator. So there are some major misunderstandings in the terms used by Muslims, Christians and Jews regarding the Creator of the Universe.

Western Christianity's refusal to resolve their differences with Muslims regarding what is the Creator's name have led to wars and discrimination against the Muslims. Moreover, the use of the word "God" by Western Christianity has led to many atrocities committed against the Muslims, the Eastern followers of Eashoa Msheekhah (Jesus the Messiah), and the Jewish people who also do not use the name "God" nor "Christ" in their language or religion. Six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi Christians (mostly Catholic) because the Jewish Creator was not called "God." The rest of the European Christians also have discriminated against the Jews and the Muslims on account of their using a different term in referring to the Creator of the Universe.

As for American Christians, the use of the name of God and Jesus Christ in their many Bible versions have led to the genocide of most of the Native Americans and the enslavement of millions of Africans and the Asian peoples of the whole world in general. American Christianity's outrageous interpretations of the Scriptures in their many contradictory Bible versions have produced the biggest genocides and ongoing crimes that are being committed daily against the true followers of Eashoa Msheekhah (Jesus the Messiah) in the history of the world. The murders, rapes and robberies committed against the true followers of Eashoa Msheekhah are reported daily on the Internet and the videos of the atrocities committed are also uploaded on Youtube.

The two parties in America refuse to mention the name of Jesus officially and they deny the betrayal of their Creator and Eashoa Msheekhah (Jesus the Messiah.) The upshot of American Christianity's betrayal of Eashoa Msheekhah and the denial that the entire Scriptures were originated in Ashurit (Ancient Aramaic) and not in Greek or Hebrew, has resulted in their continued misery and torment as a former "Christian Nation."

American Christianity's biggest crime is that they set up the US Dollar as their God; they define all their success and values by the worth of their currency, they use money as a measure of everything, they use money as a means of exchange and evaluation of everything, and they worship it. "In God we Trust" is emblazoned on their currency, by which they mean that money is their God -- there is no other meaning to it.

This revelation of the true nature of American Christianity would not have been possible if it weren't for the fact that Obama became the first non-Christian President of the United States of America. People could take issue with the fact that American Christianity may have been genuine to some degree; but Obama put the whole matter to rest forever. By successfully challenging their Christianity as being fake, Obama introduced Islam into the American Culture. American Christians succumbed to the leadership of this former Muslim to the point where they got rid of every official or representative who called himself or herself a Christian publicly. All the Christian leaders of Congress and the Senate have been kicked out by both parties as soon as they say they are Christians. The Atheists have successfully sued and kicked out every official who mentions the name of Jesus publicly or prays to the Creator of the Universe. The entire US government is Antichristian.

The Middle East has erupted now in multiple revolutions, all of them have one thing in common: the secularization of governments and the promotion of Islamic freedom and advancement for all the Muslim peoples of the world. This policy is the hallmark of Obama's Presidency and it will remain so until his term of office comes to an end. The American Culture will continue to deny that Eashoa Msheekhah is the Messiah prophesied by the Scriptures.

As for the Battle of Armageddon there is no need for Americans to fight it. Who will the Christians in America attack with Obama riding the white horse? Surely not the Muslim countries. Then also what will they fight for? In fact, if there is going to be a repeat of the Battle of Armageddon, this time it will have to be somewhere else.

On another note, the biggest achievement of Obama's Presidency will be that he was the first President who made it alright for anybody to run for President regardless of religious affiliation. Thus, from now on Mormons (who don't believe in the New Testament of any church) can run for the highest office, and others also who believe in the various False Christian doctrines and interpretations of the Scriptures (all the American Bibles based on Greek, Latin and Modern Hebrew.) False Christianity cannot succeed in the US anymore. It has been exposed as a fraud already. Simply put, American style Christianity is on its way of disappearing from America and from the rest of the world.

So if you want to still discover the genuine faith in Eashoa Msheekhah (Jesus the Messiah) and become a follower of Eashoa, now is the best opportunity you have. Remember He said, "My Kingdom is not of this World." You don't have to fight anyone to be a follower of Eashoa Msheekhah, you don't have to worry about anybody discriminating against you and you don't have to fear anybody in this world. You simply open up the Scriptures and read and believe in your heart. He will open up a table for you in the midst of your enemies and provide you with all your needs from day to day.

There is a silver lining to every tragedy and calamity of this world."
_________________________
John 17:6

“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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