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#112723 - 01/30/11 08:59 PM Everyone Wants
Carrol Offline
The Remnant


Registered: 12/23/10
Posts: 12
Loc: Kentucky USA
Everyone wants Salvation, but they do not want to becaome a New Person. They do not want to obey the Commandments of Yahweh. Nobody wants to give up their Life Style. They do not want to give up their Pagan Tradition. Nobody wants to become Righteous like Yahweh.
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#112724 - 01/31/11 02:56 AM Re: Everyone Wants [Re: Carrol]
yonah1 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 306
You would think that death would make people want to pursue love and righteousness at all cost. But no, most seem content to live like animals - here for a while and then no more. No wonder Yahweh felt regret in his heart that he created man. I am reminded of a line from a movie "The Flight of the Phoenix," where stupidity was to one man a virtue and to another like a science.

2Thes 2:9-12 ESV

"The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

John 3:19 AMP

"The [basis of the] judgment (indictment, the test by which men are judged, the ground for the sentence) lies in this: the Light has come into the world, and people have loved the darkness rather than and more than the Light, for their works (deeds) were evil."

Matt 15:6-9 NASB

And by this you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition.

7"You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you:
8'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
9'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'"


http://beawatchman.blogspot.com/2010/07/there-is-heaviness-in-air.html



Edited by yonah1 (01/31/11 04:31 AM)
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“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#112770 - 02/22/11 01:01 AM Re: Everyone Wants [Re: Carrol]
yeshuaslave Offline


Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 176
Loc: tulsa
Originally Posted By: Carrol
Everyone wants Salvation, but they do not want to becaome a New Person. They do not want to obey the Commandments of Yahweh. Nobody wants to give up their Life Style. They do not want to give up their Pagan Tradition. Nobody wants to become Righteous like Yahweh.


Hardly anyone knows what salvation is. they need it, but unless they seek and talk with ABBA first they never learn what
UNION with HIM is or means.
Hardly anyone sees a NEW PERSON - again , unless they first seek and talk with ABBA. Publicly there is or looks like there is practically NO EXAMPLE for anyone to see or find to
know what a NEW PERSON is.
I did give up my Life Style. my life, my family, my future, my hopes, my dreams, my ambitions(for anything worldly - money, 'good'job, house, property, fame etc etc) - I gave it up completely, whole-heartedly, joyfully when I was 17; in/with wide-eyed wonder and awe (and A LOT OF NOT-KNOWING) at Yhvh's IMMENSE GRACE; in/with being broken, shattered, totally willing to turn to YHVH'S WAY and DENOUNCING SIN and SELFISHNESS and SELF-LIFE(HATING HATING HATING SELF-LIFE/WORLD).
It took a while(decades) to learn from YHVH and give up the pagan tradition of the trinity, lutheran-ism, man's religion entirely (it was so DECEPTIVE all my life - EVERYONE IS TRICKED and DECEIVED BY THEIR OWN FAMILY !!!!!!!!! et al).
I did want to become RIGHTEOUS LIKE YAHWEH, and TRUSTED HIM TO ACCOMPLISH, and HE DID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(x 10 to the infinity power) smile
..............
To BE HIS is the most humbling, amazing, joyfully EXCRUCIATING day to day; abiding in HIM, in constant prayer, in repentance, in AWESTRUCK shame at all that the human race is doing (republicna party, dem party, communists, buddhiss, rcc(anti-truth), lutherans, protestants, 'free'm.s.ns, lawyers, politicians, bankers, realtors, stock-brokers, school teachers, principals, p.st.rs, pr..sts, p.p.s etc etc etc AD NAUSEUM, EVERY CORPORTION, and even "_____________" (fill-in with whatever you can think of))
...............
Truly, justly it is written "whoever will not give up everything*** including even his own life CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE".
It is simply true.

*** for the GOOD NEWS OF YHVH'S SALVATION, to OBEY HIM in everything, every day, all day long, no matter what the cost.

................
and HE HIMSELF accomplishes this, day after day after day, in unbelievable mercy and long-suffering, working perfectly
with this previously unworthy earthen vessel designed by HIM for HIS GOOD PLEASURE AND PLAN AND PURPOSE
made worthy without a reason and without merit by the IMMEASURABLE BLOOD OF THE LAMB SLAIN
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#112771 - 02/22/11 01:42 AM Re: Everyone Wants [Re: yeshuaslave]
yeshuaslave Offline


Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 176
Loc: tulsa
p.s.
.........
rightly or wrongly i posted the previous as a kind of 'flag' or 'sign post' hoping/ needing/ desiring to find others who have actually already given up everything for the GOOD NEWS OF YAHWEH'S SALVATION .
if this is 'wrongly' (as in 'flesh') then it will simply dissipate to nothing or even possibly result in more persecution and physical suffering instead of fellowship.
if this is 'rightly' (as in 'let the words that you speak be what you hear ABBA speak')
then it will joyfully result in
even more righteousness, peace and joyful fruit given by YAHWEH as HE PLEASES (for all who are SEEKING HIM ONLY. --
for others who remain willfully ignorant of HIS WAY and or rebellious against HIM this will be towards HIS JUDGMENT of them and result in either more PUNISHMENT or more DISCIPLINE of them.
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that, perhaps, take part in
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#112923 - 05/15/11 11:50 PM Re: Everyone Wants [Re: yeshuaslave]
yonah1 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 306
".....The great problem with "finding truth" is that most people are unable to look outside their religious bubble. That is to say, they are unable to lay aside what they have been taught by their parents, or their religious leader, or the "expert scholar" in order to take an objective look at what the Scriptures are actually saying. Traditions and church doctrines are very powerful things. They get their hook into the jaw of the religious person and blind them to the truth.

Christians are susceptible to these dangers, because they tend to immerse themselves into the "faith" somewhat blindly. They hear the interpretations and opinions of those whom they regard as "experts" and whom they greatly respect, without fundamentally questioning the premises on which their preacher or pastor has built his theology. Christians dutifully pass on from generation to generation the doctrines they hold dear. They use the Scriptures to "prove" true what they already believe. This has led to some firmly entrenched doctrines which actually have no real basis in the teaching of the Bible.

Both Catholic Christians and Protestant Christians are afflicted with the same cancer.
The Catholic systematic theology is taught to children at a very early age and reinforced throughout the growing up years and beyond. Catholics rarely question the fundamental authority of the Church. Though they may not agree with some of the details and the opinions of their priests, they don't have the tools or the inclination to question the authority of their priests, cardinals and pope to issue binding declarations and requirements. The Church has historically held the threat of eternal punishment and torture to secure the loyalty and submission of their parishioners.

The Protestant churches do the same. Their systematic theologies are so pervasive that an independent thinking person is shut down wherever he deviates from the standard beliefs because every doctrine is intricately intertwined with all other doctrines. The deviate belief contradicts the whole of the entire systematic theology. Therefore, it cannot be correct, nor can it be tolerated. The protestant pastor tries to reform the straying member, and if he can't, he disfellowships him........."


http://bibletruth.cc/Body_Why.htm
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