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#112642 - 12/19/10 08:20 PM I've been warned....
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Shalom to everyone,
I had been a member of a christian website for a long time...I tried to share some of the things I have been learning, Yahweh's name, his Son and the 7th day Sabbath. It is amazing at these websites...they can share worldly stuff like Patrick Swazey and Mariah Carey stuff, Christmas things etc....I received a warning in my box there...letting me know that they are sorry to see I have gotten involved with a "sect" a sacred name sect....and they gave me an article from a Pastor explaining how Sunday is the Sabbath....well I tried I guess this is what it means...those who have ears to hear...basically I have been told the teachings here are lies...it is so sad. Since coming to the truth in June of this year....my "Christian" friends have all abandoned me..it amazes me that they are ecumenical in a sense of all denominations now "get a long" but if you mention the names or the Sabbath..they shun you like the plague....this is a very lonely walk....Yahweh is good though, and this website has been such a blessing to me. What baffles me is I ma willing to stay in a relationship with Christians all though we differ greatly in many areas and I cannot participate in the things I know are wrong...but they seem to turn on anyone that holds these beliefs...I have been told I'm in a cult now, or I have basically "fallen away" please keep me in your prayers....
I'm not even going to read the "Pastors" article about Sunday worship...it's sad they turn to man's teachings instead of Yahweh's word....
May Yahweh bless you all. I greatly enjoyed the Sabbath teaching....

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#112643 - 12/20/10 02:20 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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Yahweh is so good. I was feeling sad about being "abandoned" all the way around...as friends and family seem to not want anything to do with me because of my beliefs etc....so later I came back on here and was checking around the home page...I clicked on the youth zone...LOL even though I'm not a youth, this helped me very much.....this explained a lot to me...and helped me to see I could never be a "close friend" to a non-believer.... thank you whoever wrote the following article!!

Youth Question and Answer Page
Q. So many young people around me do not serve Yahweh. How do I overcome the pressures?

A. First of all, one should not have an unbeliever as a close personal friend. Yahweh says:


Prov 12:26 (NKJV) The righteous should choose his friends carefully, For the way of the wicked leads them astray.

And:

Jame 4:4 (NKJV) Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with Yahweh? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of Yahweh.

Yahweh knows how deceptive it can be to have friends who are unbelievers. We need to be careful who our company is. If those around us are doing wrong things, we are just walking into a temptation. The only purpose we would have for being with unbelievers strictly for witnessing to them. This is often used as an excuse to be their friend, but there is a very big difference. The second you find anything they do as tempting, depart from them!

1Cor 15:33 (NKJV) Do not be deceived: "Evil company corrupts good habits."

Second, we need to remember that if we truly want to be Yahweh's servants that we must be different than everyone else. We should be joyful that we are different than the crowd! Anyone can go along with everyone else, but it takes someone special to be different.

1Joh 2:15 (NKJV) Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that [is] in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of Yahweh abides forever.

When they mock you for being different, just remember that what you are going through truly pales in comparison to the whippings, spittings, beatings and eventual death that Yahushua went through because He also was not of the world and He too, was different.

Luke 23:33 (NKJV) And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Yahushua said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." And they divided His garments and cast lots.

We must be different if we are on the narrow road that leads to eternal life. We can't be on the road that only a few find (Matthew 7) and still be on the path that everyone else is on.

Luke 6:22 (NKJV) Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile [you], and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man's sake. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy! For indeed your reward is great in heaven, For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.

Q. Why do some bad people often seem happy and "blessed"?

A. The Psalmist gives a great answer to this question:

Psal 92:5 (NKJV) O Yahweh, how great are Your works! Your thoughts are very deep. 6 A senseless man does not know, Nor does a fool understand this. 7 When the wicked spring up like grass, And when all the workers of iniquity flourish, It is that they may be destroyed forever. 8 But You, Yahweh, are on high forevermore. 9 For behold, Your enemies, O Yahweh, For behold, Your enemies shall perish; All the workers of iniquity shall be scattered.

It is better to be chastened (punished) for our sins now because this indicates Yahweh's love for us:

Hebr 12:5 (NKJV) And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: "My son, do not despise the chastening of Yahweh, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; 6 For whom Yahweh loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives." 7 If you endure chastening, Yahweh deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

If we are not chastened by Yahweh, then this indicates we are not the children of Yahweh. It is much better to receive punishment for our sins in this life than to receive the punishment for our sins in the lake of fire.

Q. How do i know what i believe is right?

A. If what you believe is right according to Yahweh's word, then this is how you know! If another comes and teaches something contrary to what you believe, examine the word of Yahweh to see if it is true. Timothy became a disciple of Yahushua the Messiah. He had known the scriptures since he was a child:

2Tim 3:14 (NKJV) But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in the Messiah Yahushua

This is what the scriptures are for:

2Tim 3:16 (NKJV) All Scripture [is] given by inspiration of Yahweh, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of Yahweh may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

His word is the ultimate test. An answer I commonly give is "I'm willing to change, just show me from scripture that I am wrong"

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#112649 - 12/21/10 01:43 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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"Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with [them] to the same sink of corruption, speaking injuriously [of you];" 1 Pet 4:4 Darby


"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it." Matthew 7:14 NASB

Thanks for posting Rainbow.


Edited by yonah1 (12/21/10 01:44 AM)
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#112657 - 12/27/10 07:58 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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Me too......been on a "christian" board for years...had to leave .

Im called a legalist, cult, sect, misled, confused, amoung many other things...

The truth is precious and many dont want it ..no not at all.

We home school, four children, and need fellowship.

Weve been burned, crushed, hurt, betrayed, but NOT forgoten; for YaHWeH remembers HIS!

With this said, i feel its just the begainings of the woes that are to come....

Stand fast Brethren, and let Yahushua lead us to HIS victory.

Barry
fellow bondservant
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#112658 - 12/27/10 07:33 PM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: barrykind]
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Thank you both for your comments. At least I know I am not alone! Yes...I too think worse things are yet to come....

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#112659 - 12/31/10 11:31 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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Shalom, Rainbow!

I read your posts and I can totally relate to exactly what you are going through. But as you know the world will hate us for Yahshua's Name. Ironic right? I am mocked by family, friends, and people that I try to share the Truth with. Actually my family and I are not talking anymore either. My own dad tried to make me say "merry -----mas" one year for money. I couldn't believe it! I think we all are experiencing this persecution so you're definitely not alone. Fellowship has become so important to me and actually on Facebook I have found some friends. It makes such a difference. If you're on FB let me know and we can "become friends"; just email me all4Yah@gmail.com.

I agree with you that it's really backwards that people don't find all kinds of lusts of the flesh, lies, etc. are not offensive but the Truth is. And saying you've joined a sect...that is one I have not been told directly but I'm sure people are thinking. The funny thing is that the "sacred name" movement is not a sect, it is a movement to restore the Name of Yahweh.

Acts 2:16
“But this is what was spoken by the prophet Yo’ĕl:

Acts 2:17
‘And it shall be in the last days, says Elohim, that I shall pour out of My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams,

Acts 2:18
and also on My male servants and on My female servants I shall pour out My Spirit in those days, and they shall prophesy.

Acts 2:19
‘And I shall show wonders in the heaven above and signs in the earth beneath: blood and fire and vapor of smoke.

Acts 2:20
‘The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and splendid day of יהוה.

Acts 2:21
‘And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be saved.’1 Footnote: 1Joel 2:28-32, Rom. 10:13.

So returning to Yahshua's right Name is prophecy being fulfilled and the apostasy happened before most of these denominations even came to exist. Ironic.

Well, you're in good company here and if you are interested in any research I've done, and things I've learned check out www.all4Yah.weebly.com (I only offer not for me but because I believe Yahweh uses all of us to put the pieces of the puzzle together) and you can download a free e bible at tinybible.free.fr. Here is a bible that you can totally customize the settings like the size of the window, font, the color, export, etc. Plus I know the guy who built it so if you have any problems, I can get him to help you ; )

Though we are scattered we will one day live properly all together with huge feasts and daily fellowship with the Master Himself and our whole family!

Peace in Yah!
Amanda Godard

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#112660 - 12/31/10 12:08 PM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: all4Yah]
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Originally Posted By: all4Yah
Shalom, Rainbow!

I agree with you that it's really backwards that people don't find all kinds of lusts of the flesh, lies, etc. are not offensive but the Truth is. And saying you've joined a sect...that is one I have not been told directly but I'm sure people are thinking. The funny thing is that the "sacred name" movement is not a sect, it is a movement to restore the Name of Yahweh.


Yeah, but they're out there.

Any of this sound familiar?


3. Only Elbert Spriggs is allowed to give original teaching, and his writings are the final authority within the communities. Elbert Eugene Spriggs has no real accountability. All men must wear their hair in short ponytails with a long, trimmed beard. All women wear long dresses, skirts or “Sus” pants. Women also have long hair. Unity with the “church” is heavily stressed, usually to the point where it becomes the chief doctrine. Unity is considered to be more important than “Doctrine”. (Behavior Control)

8 Emotion control is also practiced within the communities, narrowing a person’s emotional responses. The gray areas of life are slowly eliminated, and everything progressively becomes black and white. This manipulation and narrowing of emotions occurs in three ways. –Bob. Pardon NEIRR
9. The Twelve Tribes Community practices brutal information control. Community members are not permitted to read newspapers, books or listen to the radio. This causes the individual member to become highly dependent on the group.
10. The community claims a special exalted status for itself. “We are the light and the hope of the world. We are the only ones who can reclaim this earth for its Maker. We are the only ones whose lives of love and pure devotion, like a bride for her groom, can bring heaven to earth all other attempts to do so are not merely futile, they are evil..”
11. Members are encouraged (strongly) to break ties with family and friends and society. The Community becomes a replacement family and society.
Restricts the ability to leave the group.
4. Community members must obey the teachings of Spriggs or risk shunning or excommunication. “Everything we hear in the teachings we are required to obey.” (Repentance 4/2/91). “If an elder questioned Spriggs’ teachings he could lose his place of authority. Dissenting elders were also talked about in the apostolic workers Meetings.” Michael Painter, Former Member

5. Every person must submit to the elders who are in submission to the leader (Spriggs). Demand absolute obedience.

6. Inhibits critical thinking so that a “group think” predominates. Followers give up the right to make value judgments of their own. (They cannot reason). Behavior Control

7. There is intense control over community members in the areas of dress, and the regulation of where one lives. “When we are in the Body we have no independent action or movement. AWM 6/12/88) “When God commands us, if we stop to consider the matter to see if there is sufficient reason for us to do it, then we are still living according to the flesh. If the elders say, you need to move to…’ and you say, ‘what is the reason for that? I’m doing fine here, etc., no matter how good you may do in the flesh, you cannot go past that rebellion”

Reasoning 11/I 8/90
http://www.twelvetribes-ex.com/blog/

http://www.cultnews.com/


Edited by yonah1 (12/31/10 12:11 PM)
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#112668 - 01/05/11 05:46 PM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: yonah1]
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Hi everyone,
thank you for your comments. Thank you for the invite on facebook as well. I'm not currently on there...I'm uneasy about it and not all that tech savy so to speak...so I'm not sure about it. Wow, being bribed to say Merry x-mas...oh that is so grievious to go through, as you love them and want them to come to the truth. I will pray for your family ...okay I was going to put your title...I think it was all4Yah...I'm still trying to figure out how to use everything here he he!

I think the other poster was yonah1 thank you for more comments on the twelve tribes...I was so wishing it were something good as my husband and I have no physical fellowship, we are meeting people here and keep the Sabbath with all of you here live..that has been a huge blessing...I have a few women I found through a particular group "assembly" and they have been wonderful....I just struggle with some of their teachings as they teach against the tassels. I even tried to gently as the Elder there about their stance, I shared the teaching from here and the response I got almost implied I'm not lead by the spirit if I wear them and if I wear them they should be hidden...and it makes me a "new believer" or wannabe Jew...I was sad and very confused...they said it is not a command it points to the commandments???? but the verse in Numbers says to all their generations??? and to the children of Israel not just "Jews"....
any imput....

I was saddened at the tone of the response I got...basically if I am "convicted" to wear them do it in private by hiding them in an undergarment??? and not to think everyone is to wear them and again the implication was I may be bypassing the spirit.....help

Thank you all for your fellowship....

again I am atleast glad to know I am not alone

Interesting point about the apostacy taking place long before the denominations formed....in Christianity they teach that as some "future" event we are to be watching for?????

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#112675 - 01/05/11 09:39 PM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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This is a good site. http://www.bibletruth.cc/Body_Messianic.htm

also - http://miami.ucg.org/sites/miami.ucg.org/files/sermons/aug-28%20Haeffele%20Bible%20Study%20-%20Tribes.mp3
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#112727 - 01/31/11 12:06 PM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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Good day to you and yours, blessings from Yahushua. I am new to the forum and website. I too keep the Sabbath and food laws and feasts. I too have many similar problems with the public and family. I keep sabbath at home and when I have to work in the health care field, I keep sabbath with the little ones I watch after. Adults with developmentally disabilities. My family once told me if I didn't keep X----s, that I didn't love "jesus" Hmmmm, I said, Ok, for I love Yahushua with all my heart and spirit and our Holy Father, Amein. smile But I was able to witness to my little brother while helping him in the hospital this past week, and I pray always for my family, extended and all others. Yes, it is lonely out here, but I found that when I was attempting to join in with sabbath keeping churches, all they wanted to do was leave their first love and gather with the traditions of men. So now I know, we are scattered, but just as in Noah's day, the people were told to go forth and multiply, so they built cities so they would not loose site of each other, they didn't go "forth" as commanded. So our Father scattered them and confounded their language......kind of got the point across to them to go forth! Now here we are, scattered individuals called to His service, Amein.....if we had only each other, as some are doing, where would our light shine forth???? I am the only sabbath keeper and follower in the truth in the agency I work in, about 300 + co-workers.....Amein!!!It took time for me to understand why it was ok for me to be "alone" for I really wasn't. Our Father puts us in touch, as we have need, amein. He is so merciful. My days are filled with trying to help all those in need, and my co-workers are in awe of the fact that things I craft for the needy in the winter, I do not sell. If I sold the items, it would be WORK......I am doing it as a love offering. Amein. And our Father enabled me to learn to crochet, so I am blessed in this gift of love, amein. I pray for all my brethern out there, it won't be too much longer, we will be gathered to Himself, and we will be among those to do His work always, that is my goal. Love and blessings from my house to your house,

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#112730 - 02/03/11 01:37 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: moonshadow59]
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Thank you moonshadow59 what a beautiful testimony and you have given me so much encouragement, thank you! I guess I always wonder how we obey the not forsaking the gathering together if we are scattered??

I pray Yahweh will bless the works of your hands, and that many will see his light shine through your life...

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#112793 - 03/07/11 03:50 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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This might seem a little off topic, but didn't know where to put it. Before the phone cut out on Saturday's broadcast I heard something about storing up food, etc that might wind up being "a waste of time".

We've been hearing about all sorts of strange things occurring that could turn our world upside down pronto. Given where we appear to be in time, our trust ought not to be in material provisions - although I guess a little common sense might not be a bad idea. Only problem is that common sense isn't very common. I've been reading about things that may be coming to a head in the New Madrid Fault Zone of Missouri. The last time there was a major eruption there was 1829 I believe and was so strong it rung church bells in Boston. Should it happen again, FEMA says there will be 7 million instantly homeless people and they are now taking bids for 140 million MRE's and lots of underwater body bags.

I used to go to the truck stop in Hayti, MO.

The question is are those dead birds like the canary in the coal mine?

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"........What is the connection between the fault line, the birds, and the Gulf Oil Spill?

There is a bulge on the ocean floor, due to methane gas buildup.

GPS and depth finders have found a bulge in the ocean floor 15-20 miles wide and 10s of feet high.

The methane, and other gases and toxins, as they escape, will poison the atmosphere.

Methane is also flammable.

They went down 22,500 feet to drill…this is 4 miles…the pressure is 100,000 lbs per square inch (psi)…no one can contain this kind of pressure.

Cavitation is occurring."

General report

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/new-madrid-...




Edited by yonah1 (03/07/11 07:27 AM)
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#112812 - 03/16/11 08:06 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: yonah1]
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I have a friend, and her son is in the military as well. He was sent to Missouri last month as well. Here is video that explains the "planned exercise" for the Madrid fault line. It will be in May

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3amqxiLJl8&feature=feedlik



Watch and Pray...

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#112813 - 03/19/11 03:07 PM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: rainbow]
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My family and I CHOSE to separate from our physical family as none of them followed the ways of Yahweh...We shared the truth with them in which they rejected...we shook the dust...wiped our feet and left town...that was 16 years ago...are we happy? Oh yea.

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#112815 - 03/21/11 04:10 AM Re: I've been warned.... [Re: Tamar Deburg]
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It is quite remarkable to me that so many groups/individuals have pieces of truth - some of it quite deep - but they seem like they can only go so far in understanding even if they observe Shabbat, Feasts, food laws and acceptance of Messiah. The Divine Names are not on their foreheads - in their place seem to be traces of Babylonianism. (I wonder if that's where baloney came from? - LOL) They seem to be like Lot's wife or are looking for loopholes in YHWH'S Law that affects what they are allowed to discern.

Matthew 7:14 - "But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
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