#113044 - 08/11/11 04:00 PM
Re: I've been warned....
[Re: ANewman]
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Well Boomshagalagaboom!
I do not want to sound judgemental,
Is leaving tough? YES. They made the choice to give up all of their possessions when they joined the group, following after the example of the Apostles and early ekklesia. No one forced them to join the group, so now they have no possessions to go back to?
I just don't understand what your beef is
I'm not saying you had evil intent, not at all, and hey, I could be the one missing some big piece of the puzzle here about this group, it was mostly your using that hateful group as a source that got under my skin,,,,,,,,I am genuinely interested in that group, and so would desire scriptural backing vs mans opinions.
I pray that I did not offend you with this post, or that you do not take this as an attack. I do not mean it as such. I made the effort to investigate that cult watch group that you referenced, and they are not righteous. Their purposes, their goals, are evil.
Edited by yonah1 (08/11/11 04:27 PM)
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#113048 - 08/12/11 06:28 PM
Re: I've been warned....
[Re: yonah1]
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Registered: 08/12/05
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Yonah1 --
Hey, brother, if I was wrong, please set me straight. If I crossed the line, I am sorry. I want to be in the right, in what I teach, in my relationship with the Body, with another brother and would like to know what you think about what I wrote. I notice you quoted some of my post, but am not understanding what message you are trying to send, to me or to others? I am not perfect and can make mistakes, so like I said, if you do not agree with what I said, I want to know, so that we can reason together about this. I consider the twelve tribes group to be harmless and possibly a part of the Body of Messiah, if I am wrong about them, I want to know! If you felt I was judging you, I wasn't meaning to. Any feelings I may have of judgement towards anyone, might be that Cult watch group, if anyone. Is that wrong to feel judgemental of them, if they are persecuting people of similar religious beliefs as you and I? If I am wrong, then please, set me straight!
Sincerely Anewman
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#113065 - 08/14/11 03:49 PM
Re: I've been warned....
[Re: rainbow]
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Registered: 08/14/11
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Loc: Rosamond, CA
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Blessings! I do not pretend to know everything as our family is new to the Torah and Feasts; however my understanding is this: Numbers 15:37-41 (Tanakh)YHWH said to Mosheh as follows: Speak to the Israelite people and instruct them to make for themselves fringes on the corners of their garments throughout the ages; let them attach a cord of blue to the fringe at each corner. That shall be your fringe; look at it and recall all the commandments of YHWH and observe them, so that you do not follow your heart and eyes in your lustful urge. Thus you shall be reminded to observe all My commandments and to be holy to your Elohim. I, YHWH am your G-, who brought you out of the land of Egypt to be your G-d; I, YHWH your G-d.
The purpose is to be able to see them, recall His commands, so that we are kept safe from the urges of the flesh.
On a larger scale YHWH's people were chosen to be the priesthood of mankind and to share His word (miltha) with all of us that we might be saved. The tzittzit are to be seen so that the wearer might even look set apart (we are a peculiar people) and cause a little curiousity.
Please anyone clariry or correct my words if I am misled. Blessings and Shalom to my brothers and sisters!
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#113071 - 08/15/11 03:16 AM
Re: I've been warned....
[Re: ANewman]
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In considering ways that the adversary might use to drive a wedge between believers two stand out< One is total confusion of the Divine Names and the second would be confusion regarding the Sabbath< Seems he's scored big hits in both< After having spent what amounts to 20 year war regarding the issue of Yahweh's name, it strikes me that as one Jewish person explained as their rationale for not uttering Yahweh's name out loud, was that it was so pagans could not misuse it, was that this misguided logic was causing people to worship demons< In the case of the "lunar sabbath" it strikes a similar chord of confusion having the same result< In addition to Eliyah's exhaustive treatise ( http://www.eliyah.com/lunarsabbath.html) on the subject, one thought keeps recurring in my mind, to wit, if one is going to determine the Sabbath by sighting the new moon, how would one determine the Sabbath if there had been cloud cover for say a week to ten days< Just assign an arbitrary day for the first day of that month which of course would throw the whole rest of the year off< Just doesn't fly and fractures the body< But we were warned that there would be heresies and false teachers and that even the very elect might be deceived< http://www.clearbibleanswers.org/the-challenge.html?start=2, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/message/6805
Edited by yonah1 (08/20/11 01:17 AM)
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