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#112588 - 11/24/10 08:59 AM Zech 8:23 Tell me What YOU think this means....
Tamar Deburg Offline


Registered: 09/06/10
Posts: 19
Zech 8:23
"Thus says Yahweh of hosts: 'In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that Yahweh is with you."'"

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#113089 - 08/20/11 11:35 AM Re: Zech 8:23 Tell me What YOU think this means.... [Re: Tamar Deburg]
yeshuaslave Offline


Registered: 10/26/04
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Loc: tulsa
I think this, (and Yhwh has intimately taught me with great gentleness for 40 years, overcoming much stubbornness and ignorance and prejudice and greed and desire for anything of this world),
that
just as the nations scorn the Jew and scorn Yahshua today,
so too there will be a day, and it is very near, even at hand, when "every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess, with over-awed trembling willing-obedience, that Yahshua is the only Master".
Men from every language, from every country, from every religion (all of the religions on earth are in error)
will realize that Yahshua is the PROMISED MESSIAH, the Master/Ruler of all of the earth,
and
hoping for Yahweh's favor, maybe fervent for His Approval,
they will plead with the Jewish man to be allowed(if it is permitted) to go with him to Israel for a
required Feast/Sacrifice.



Zech 8:23
"Thus says Yahweh of hosts: 'In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that Yahweh is with you."'"
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"...suffer persecution so
that, perhaps, take part in
resurrection..." Paul's letter

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#113195 - 10/29/11 06:11 AM Re: Zech 8:23 Tell me What YOU think this means.... [Re: Tamar Deburg]
yeshuaslave Offline


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Loc: tulsa
Originally Posted By: Tamar Deburg
Zech 8:23
"Thus says Yahweh of hosts: 'In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that Yahweh is with you."'"



Today overwhelming realization society is so evil.
Already knew this, for some time, in part...
But now, marlo thomas 'glodified' for her part in
'liberting' woman movement via a show "that girl"
touting a single female not needing to get married
and 'making it' in business as an independent -i.e.
"free of responsibility to Yhvh" somehow okay.
..
alSo note - her dad's 'contribution' thru/via stjude hospital(a shrine temple endorsing other than truth to gain fame and money and power over everyone)...
is 'praised by men' everywhere(except for righteous men) for exorbitant spending on worldy fleshy things.
..
this may not be understood unless you understand that the pasteur method was developed because of SHEER GREED and FALSE SCIENCE overthrowing by lies and by deception the truth that beauchamp had made known.
..
now this is the largest and most expensive and most deadly deception in history, and is plainly written in Scripture but never translated accurately in english translations. namely, phrmk deceives the whole world.(deceives entirely the chruches as well as the politicians and the 'scholars' and the 'doctors' and the 'pastors' and the 'teachers' and the , well, and the "EVERYBODY" (except the elect and a few besides)...
..
so, the "WHOLE WORLD" is deceived, tricked, empty and devoid of truth...
..
and as or when or if men see this then they "shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that Yahweh is with you."
..
(this may well be AFTER Yahshua soon comes to rule earth... it may be before then, but i really can't imagine men so vividly desiring to know the truth before then, except for the martyrs)
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"...suffer persecution so
that, perhaps, take part in
resurrection..." Paul's letter

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#113271 - 01/18/12 09:50 PM Re: Zech 8:23 Tell me What YOU think this means.... [Re: Tamar Deburg]
JonesFullHouse Offline


Registered: 01/13/12
Posts: 3
I believe this verse means exactly what it says, and I believe it is just beginning to happen. Many Christians are beginning to see the Hebrew Roots of their faith in ways they never dreamed before. Many of us are seeking out the wisdom of the Jewish people to understand the Hebrew Scriptures more clearly.
It is beautiful, and I believe the eagerness to learn will lead many Jews to Yeshua, as well as many Christians back to Torah.

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#113350 - 03/03/12 01:53 AM Re: Zech 8:23 Tell me What YOU think this means.... [Re: JonesFullHouse]
yonah1 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 306
I believe this is happening too, although Jews are far from perfect, as there are at least a dozen sects and as there is a huge difference between Judaism and Torah observant Jews.

Kol ha Tor

- Voice of the Turtledove - http://www.kolhator.org.il/

The Greatest Event that the world has ever seen is now taking shape

"The regathering and rebirth of Re-united 12-tribed Israel as foretold 3000 years in advance in the Bible....The return of Jews to their Homeland since 1948, after 2000 years of exile and persecution amongst the nations is indeed such a Miracle. But, as if this was not miraculous enough, Kol Hator announces the national formation of even more absurd proportions: the re-identifying of the 'other House of Israel' consisting of 10 'Lost' Tribes, exiled to oblivion and dispersed amongst the nations of the entire world for the last 2800 years!...."
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John 17:6

“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#113379 - 03/28/12 03:13 PM Re: Zech 8:23 Tell me What YOU think this means.... [Re: yonah1]
Lady Minstrel Offline


Registered: 01/27/12
Posts: 4
Loc: california USA
Christ told us that he had come but for Israel...Was there was a remnant saved? Was not the first Christian church comprised of these Israelites who followed Christ?..

I presume the 144,000 will come from these people if this scripture is about lineage..keeping in mind that scripture tells us that they are Christians...that they have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God...

or could they be 144,000 who are Spiritual Israel, those who follow Christ..and keep the commandments of God as Galatians tells us that there is no more Jew or Greek..that we are all equal in the promises made to Abraham..

Christs Christian church is the completion of the Mosaic Hebrews and the Old Covenant from what I see..

Are the 144,00 these Israelites who Christ came for? Did God not have the lineage records of the Jews destroyed by the Romans in 70AD?

I Timothy 1:4 not to pay attention to endless genealogies..



From what Ive read on True Torah sites...these particular Jews such as the Karaites and others, do not believe in this Land of Israel of today as being scriptural...That they are still in the Diaspora..Awaiting Messiah..and only follow the Torah..and not the Teachings of the Elders (Todays Babylon Talmud)Christ condemned so much..

Scripture tells us that this earth..and this heaven will be destroyed...making it IMPOSSIBLE for Israel todayt to be the "land of the promises made to Abraham." as its not going to exist 'forever'...

But the NEW JERUSALEM that comes out of Heaven..seems to be the Kingdom of Christ given to him by the Father...and I believe is the land of the promise made to Abraham mentioned in scripture....not just to Israelite's..but to all of mankind... Heaven...were we will live for eternity..as Galatians 3 tells us there is no more Jew or Greek...no male no female....were all one in Christ...and we ARE the Temple of God..We are ALL HEIRS to the promises made to Abraham...That the SEED was only ONE SEED...not as in many..




Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the NATIONS of the earth be blessed:

Christ is the seed of Abraham...


STRONGS BIBLE CONCORDANCE...."NATIONS" ...#1471 GOY...meaning all of mankind..

Christ is the one who blesses us..and those who bless him..are blessed...

Genesis 22:18 is about Christ...the Entire bible is about Christ..See also Galatians 3.

Thats what Im seeing in scripture...

The Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and my Authorized 1611 KJV are the best books I have ever found in the pursuit of Bible truth...




Zechariah 6:12 tells us that the BRANCH OF JESSE will build the Temple of Yahweh...

STRONGS CONCORDANCE: "GOD"..#2316 The Supreme Deity

The New Testament tells us that the Temple of God (The Supreme Deity) is within us..Each Christian...

I CORINTHIANS 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

I CORINTHIANS 6:19 Know ye not that your body is THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY GHOST (GHOST #4151:divine, God, Christs Spirit) which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own? (20) For ye are bought with a price, therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are Gods..

In the Old Testament..the Spirit of God dwelled in the Temple....Today THE TEMPLE OF GOD IS THE CHRISTIAN....making the future Third Temple in Israel non scriptural..as the Temple of God ONLY resides in those who follow Christ....

DANIEL 9:27 shows us that Christ confirmed a NEW covenant with many,...and in the midst of that week..he was crucified..ending the animal sacrifice for sin under the Old Covenant..Therefore a Temple in earthly Israel for atonement for sin..does not match New Testament and Old Testament teachings..The Vale was torn..top to bottom..ending that covenant with the people Israel..

Is this not the NEW COVENANT that was prophesied to come? Gods word in our minds..and on our hearts?

"I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL..AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH" If the first was faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second... Hebrews 8:6-13

SEE HEBREWS 8:13...In that HE (Christ) saith, A NEW COVENANT, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away...



Edited by Lady Minstrel (03/28/12 03:19 PM)

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