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#112575 - 11/12/10 04:22 PM What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU
Tamar Deburg Offline


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I'm curious....What does coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU?

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#112579 - 11/18/10 01:46 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Tamar Deburg]
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What does coming out of Babylon mean?



A person begins to come out of the things that pertain to Babylon when (s)he will know what names, signs and doctrinal images, belonging to the church that has the title ‘Mother’, were mixed in the translations of the bibles; all things that do not pertain to the Torah nor to the books of the Prophets as originally written such as the word ‘baptism’ originated from the Roman terms Vattésimus (battesimu––augury) and Vaticynius (consecration made through augury or prediction); and images of doctrines of faiths and things that belong to the mixed translation and terminology that was left in the bible for the exclusive use of the State of Vatican and the Roman ordinations.


1st. There is only one woman (church; city; congregation) that calls herself by the title Mother which is also written on her forehead. Therefore the great Babylon is not about too many women but one Mother church; city or congregation.

2nd. A gilded cup of wine. On her forehead the title Mother of beliefs and spiritual fornications [type of love dedicated to images of saints] does not reveal who it is unless there is a woman--church which calls herself by the spiritual title Mother, and offers in her rites and masses for the nations a gilded cup full of the belief that the wine she has drunk is transubstantiated into holy blood.

3rd. A Babylonical; great or big in size. Vaticanus hill is one of the seven hills upon which the city of Rome was built; - A woman sitting upon a scarlet force. Symbolism of the flag of the Vatican's army -- the Swiss cross on a red field ultimately derives from a similar banner of the Roman Empire.

Book of Revelations clears up that the scarlet beast itself is the eighth nation, and is of the seven, for being Rome which in the past was the Roman empire. That is the beast that was and is not.

Therefore, literally, there is an eighth nation -State of Vatican— which is of the seven for being of Rome. The scarlet beast; the scarlet force that was (a Roman empire) and is not, lives in the form of reverenced ordination.

½. On the day a person comes out of Babylon then (s)he begins to revert the substitutions that had been made to the translations, knowing that the words 1st. Lord 2nd. god (elohim), 3rd. IESVS, JE-SUS (I-HORSE, Sameq, Vav, Sameq, 60,6,60); 4th. Christus; 5th. cross; 6th. crucify; 7th. baptism, 8th. faith (Roman doctrine of fides quae creditur and belief)

had been placed as substitute words for 1st. YHWH; 2nd. EL (ELYON); 3rd. YHWH’ÓSHUA (I AM WHO ANOINTS) 4th. Anointed, 5th. tree, 6th. suspend, 7th. Unction, 8th. Emunah--fidelitate--fidelity (hearing rather than working up a belief; understand; having ears to hear; give permanence; remain; endure).





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#112635 - 12/15/10 02:29 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: A_man_of_ELYON]
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Parable of the Road -- The light is with you for a brief time. Walk on the road in the time you have the light so that gloom doesn't overtake you. He that walks in the gloom credits a light by believing that a road is there but doesn't know where he's going. In the time you have the light, see the road in the light so that you may become a first-fruit of the light


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Brief time: Immediate time; A sequence of time that is abbreviated.
Access in a brief or Immediate sequence.
...believing there is a road –– Synonym: Not seeing the road.
Bible in Basic English -- ...one walking in the dark has no knowledge of where he is going.
Roman doctrine fides quae creditur -- ...walks in darkness [in lack of belief] knows not where he goes.




Parable of the Trail – Is there not a half day of daylight? A man may go about a half day without falling because he sees the trail in the light. But if a man goes about in the gloom, believing there is a trail, he may have a fall because the daylight does not depend on his will of believing.


Quote:
Half day: Immediate time; A Mediated sequence of time that is a dividing of time.
...believing there is a trail –– Synonym: Not seeing the trail.
Bible in Basic English -- ...he may have a fall because the light is not in him.
Roman doctrine fides quae creditur -- ...because there is no light [of belief] in him.
And If you feel that you can’t go on --a system of a ‘just believe’,
when you know that you can’t go wrong, in the Light you’ll find the road.



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#112640 - 12/17/10 01:13 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Tamar Deburg]
JamesTheMechanic Offline


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Absolutely Everything! I'm glad to be free. It means He was faithful who promised to be found by those who diligently seek Him. It means freedom from religion, and back into the battle to spread His Word so that if He calls someone who hears it they can be free also!

It also means the days are short. He's coming soon. He called us out by waking us up. Let's not come out in search of another Babylon. Lets sound the alarm!
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#112655 - 12/25/10 06:41 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: JamesTheMechanic]
yonah1 Offline


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The Messianic Movement

......."The Christian doctrine that Messiah did away with the Law has turned the Bible and biblical faith upside down. All of the ethical and moral instructions and commandments of Scripture are open to debate. If the Law was done away with, then three quarters of the Scriptures are unreliable and useless to Christians.

But clear, independent thinking people are seeing through the lie and seeing the truth of Scripture: Elohim doesn't change and neither does his moral character, his moral teachings and his definition of righteousness. What he gave to his ancient people is still valid and still speaks of his integrity today. None of his requirements and commandments have changed, because God doesn't change.

Consequently, a remnant of believers in Messiah are beginning to see the need for obedience to the commandments of Scripture. This repentance is the repentance spoken of by the prophets. When his people in the last days repent of their transgressions and rebellion against his Torah, and begin to seek Elohim with all their heart and mind, then he will fulfill his promise to bring Messiah and regather his people back to the promised inheritance of Land in Israel.

So Christians are discovering these truths and are no longer being accepted in the Christian churches because they are no longer towing the party or congregational line. They are no longer believing the traditions and practices and teachings of the denomination, because they are repenting of their rejection of the Torah and are beginning to embrace Torah as the proper walk of faith for the true disciples of Messiah.

As Christian ministers and pastors and teachers are confronted with those who are rebelling against the teachings of the church, they are expressing disdain for these "new" beliefs and are making it clear that those who embrace these Hebraic "heresies" are no longer welcome in the fellowship. Its no wonder that so many Christians are disengaging from and leaving their churches.

In my own experience, I long ago saw in the Scriptures that the pretrib rapture teaching was not biblical. As I studied more and more, I became convinced of it and shared it with others who saw the same thing as I did. But when I shared my belief (or non-belief) in the teaching of the pre-trib rapture with my pastor, I came up against a stone wall. I was ultimately told that I was no longer welcome to teach and fellowship with his congregation, because I would not conform and teach their doctrine of pre-trib rapture as truth.

I have heard many similar testimonies from others who were led by the Spirit to be convinced that one or several of the teachings of their church, denomination or pastor, was not biblical. And each one of them was met with the same disdain and rejection as I was. They were either thrust out of the fellowship or they willing moved on away from the fellowship as they began to see the "writing on the wall."

The combination of hypocrisy and sin in the leadership, the pervasiveness of false doctrine, and the hard-headed refusal by church leaders to hear and allow different opinions, beliefs and points of view in biblical interpretation have led thousands and thousands of believers to leave their home churches, and eventually to abandon all Christian churches as the place of worship and fellowship. Without a community church at which these truth seekers are welcome, there is really no other option but to worship and study at home and seek out others who feel the same way! And this is precisely what the Holy Spirit is leading many to do.

The rise in popularity of home Bible study groups is well known. Even within the larger Christian churches, home study groups have gained in popularity as a way of promoting fellowship and intimacy among believers and stimulating personal Bible study. Yet those who have left the church make the home fellowship into their singular mode of worship and study. It is in this context that more profound changes can take place. Without being under the control and supervision of a church, a pastor, an elder body or a doctrinal creed, truth seekers are able to explore Bible subjects freely without fear of censorship or scorn from those looking over their shoulders.

The Embracing of Torah

It is within this freedom of independence from an authoritative man made structure (a church) that people can truly contemplate ideas of Biblical interpretation which institutional organizations have labeled as "heretic" or "unorthodox." In this context, truth seekers may study doctrines and teachings from the Bible which had previously been frowned upon by their pastor or teacher.

At the top of the list of the many doctrines and teachings which have been summarily dismissed in the past, is that of the Law of Moses. In nearly every sect, denomination and church, the thought that Jesus did away with the Law is pervasive. This is a foundational assumption in Christian doctrine. So it affects all other doctrines and beliefs in Christianity.

But upon open investigation of this question, and without the constraints of church tradition to mute these inquiries, truth seekers are quickly rediscovering that the Torah is not only still valid as the expression of Elohim's will for his people, but the Torah contains a whole world of common sense instructions about how to live the "Christian life."

Messiah Yahusha has made it very easy to understand his position on Torah. In the Sermon on the Mount, Yahusha exclaimed,

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-19)

Away from the influences of Christian dogmas and forced interpretations, this plain statement clearly states that Messiah is not abolishing Torah. Quit simply, he has come to reveal its true meaning (fulfill it). Moreover, those who are the greatest in the kingdom are those who obey Torah and teach Torah. And those who transgress Torah and teach others to transgress Torah are the least of all who make it to the kingdom of heaven.

Truth seeking Messianics who realize this simple fact and its ramifications for the life of faith must dramatically change many things in their lives, because much of what Christians believe and do are contrary to the written Torah of Scripture. Accordingly, most Messianic home fellowships and Messianic congregations begin following a regular reading schedule of the five books of Moses called the Torah or "Law."

Even the New Testament elders, in that well known "Jerusalem Counsel" which convened over the debate of what should be required of new gentile converts to the Messianic faith, concluded that only a few essential laws should be required:

"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to Elohim. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood." (Acts 15:19-20)

The justification for only requiring these few laws of Gentiles follows:

"For Mosheh has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath." (Acts 15:21)

The meaning of this statement should not be underestimated. The new Messianic believers would no doubt assemble with the others on every Sabbath day. On every Sabbath day, the biblical custom is to read a portion of the Torah and "midrash" over it - that is to say, the elders would explain its meaning and application to the assembly........"


http://www.bibletruth.cc/Body_Messianic.htm


Edited by yonah1 (12/25/10 06:51 AM)
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#112689 - 01/18/11 12:25 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: JamesTheMechanic]
A_man_of_ELYON Offline


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Posts: 35
Originally Posted By: JamesTheMechanic
I'm glad to be free.

..It means freedom from religion, and back into the battle..

..someone who hears it they can be free also!

..It also means the days are short.
Let's not come out in search of another Babylon. Lets sound the alarm!


And freedom from religion also means freedom from the image of the leopard; the image of doctrine that was consecrated in the bibles by the ordination (of words) from versio vulgata, which was left to the eighth kingdom (State of Vatican),


Quoting from a work entitled THE REVERSED WRITINGS,


The one who knows the heart does not need to trust or believe


From a book of 150 chapters a sentence is picked, '..bossom friend in whom I trusted who ate of my bread..', and then an ordinance of Litanies, also named Sacred Vulgate, does propose that the lamb would have been a spirit of man; a second person; god-the son, because, according to the ordinance, the lamb would have to be seen as one who believes and trusts, precisely the averse of the living Word that knows the heart and the thoughts.


A brief return to the facts that might be seen from the connection between the testimony in the first pages of Acts of Pilate (Gospel of Nicodemus) – Hebrew Names Edition –, and all fragments of texts in the books of the ancient ones in reference to the Word that was in the beginning.


In a written testament the words are given to be heard after the death of whom declared them. The reverse of it is a covenant through living Word declared in Immediate time; without interruption of time neither before nor after the resurrection of the lamb. When seeing which fragments of texts in the bible do not pertain to the Song of the Lamb (The Gospels and the writings of the apostles as originally written) nor to the Song of Mosheh (all words written by Mosheh and the books of the Prophets as originally written); one ascertains that there are two different transcriptions on how the lamb came in the presence of Pilate:

Gospel of Nicodemus––Acts of Pilate, treats the lamb as the living יהוה Word that was made flesh and became one of us just physically. Your word is a little part of you, and if your word is of a realm over Heavens and beyond then the word you declare shines white Light and come into being and say I AM THE LIGHT; And your own word is made flesh; with ability to walk and speak without taking a second person, vessel or prophet to do it for you. Being completeness of the Word that initiates the times and makes all things new, the Word [יהוה] of Yhwh was made flesh; not a spirit of man nor a second person either.

The second transcription, named passion of christ, staples the lamb to the spirit of a second person or spirit of man that was made flesh; Because the ordinance of Litanies, which speaks through the texts, calls the lamb a son of man, son of Adam, god-the son or the god in the person of the son; And it does not treat the lamb as the living יהוהWord in real time and not with ink, writing with life and new actions the covenant of Whom makes all things new. To the contrary, treats the living Word as having been put in subjection under words that were written about David or a spirit of man, whenever that ordinance says: '…that the scripture might be fulfilled'.



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#112694 - 01/20/11 01:28 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: A_man_of_ELYON]
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In the book of IsaYah the same Word clears up, I AM the same; I AM the first (the one that begets), I AM also the last (the one that is begotten).

From all words in the Sefer Tehilim (book of Psalms) and in the books of the Prophets, only what was written in reference to the living Word [יהוה] of the Celestial is that which can be quoted for testimony of the fulfillness of prophecy about the living Word that became flesh,

These are the words which I spoke to you beforehand
that it was important that all things which are fulfilled in Me are those written about Me
– (the Word יהוה that was in the beginning)
in the books of the Law, of the Psalms and of the Prophets.

Text originated from versio vulgata: ‘...that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written...’


The sending of the Truth that sanctifies does not depend on asking or praying

When you establish your house to be built upon the truth that sanctifies and be complete and ready to shelter whom you want the most then you send all materials for your house including the coating and ornaments. The last thing you need is a second person asking or praying for you to still send or do one thing or another since that would make it sound as if you needed to be reminded, as if it was not clearly understood that I AM already knows what you need.

When one is prudent as (when dealing with) serpents, in regards to badly revised copies of bibles then (s)he will see the field in the light and ascertain whether the alleged prayer of Iesus for his disciples would have ever taken place.

Text originated from versio vulgata: '...Sanctify them in the truth, your word is the truth...'

The living Word that was in the beginning said: I AM the Truth.

And only the averse - of the Completeness of I AM THE LIGHT – would need to pray and speak as if the Truth itself, the Word of Yhwh, was not there at that moment, present in the flesh.


Non-existence of Judas story in the earliest documents

In the Gospels of Mark and Luke, it is stated that following the resurrection the lamb appeared to the eleven. Who was not present? –– Book of John clears up that the one missing was Tomah (Thomas), therefore the eleven had to include Judah (Judas).

When Paul writes to the people of Corinto (1 Cor **:*) that after his resurrection the lamb was seen by the twelve, this had to include Judah since it was only after the ascension, approximately forty days after the resurrection (Acts *:*), that another person would have been voted in to replace Judah.

However, if in real life, an election of apostle requires the work of casting lots to help with decision making: It is indirect vote and a system opposite to the one that the twelve apostles were elected, when the Word alone is that chooses, and chooses when the Word is pronounced.

When a story is proper to whoever has a need to give credit, and where salvation would depend upon him working up a belief credited by the spirits of men; Is that not a story where the Word is shown as absent or unable to speak, so that decision making would depend upon lots being cast by the man? Much more disgraced and absent is a word or spirit that takes a prayer to have that casting of lots done well.


The emerging of the passion of christ

The living Word always comes first and only then comes the word in written form. However that is not what takes place in the following sentence: ‘…(would have to betray him) that the scripture might be fulfilled’.

What does determine which of the 150 chapters of the book of Psalms might be sheltering 1 or 2 verses that needs to be fulfilled; the need of using ancient scripture so that it might fulfill (give legitimacy) to a believed story, to show it as authentic scripture, and to fill out a lamb made by order, proper for the usage of the tradings of religion and doctrines.

And all that requires these three things: the god, or the generic term elohim--god(s), the worshipping and prayer rituals, and the need to give (spiritual) credit to become a creditor of merit, does also require a lamb in the same measure: a lamb that would need to be betrayed and delivered by an armed escort so that he should deliver his life.


Disconnection between the Word of Yhwh and the word from a second person

If one day you have to donate a part of you to save the life of the one you want the most, then the free access to life you do by your will and through your word, ceases from being ready and willing, if, in real life, your own living Word speaks as if it was a second person saying: ‘In order for me to make this donation by which a life might be saved, …it will depend upon they delivering me, however, before it takes place …one of you will have to betray me… …let this cup pass from me…’.


Thin Measurement Line – All words originated from the ordinance named versio vulgata came from the same source of the Litanies of Iesu and were left to the gathering of Pergamus by certain angels.

The words 'let this cup pass from me' were measured, clearing up that they do not pertain to the words of Yhwh. Instruction was given about the precise extension of contents that can be measured: The altar and the temple which is also tabernacle and body of the lamb.

Get up and measure the Temple and the altar and those who operate in them,
Leave out the atrium of the court which is outside of the Temple
and do not measure it, for it was given to the nations.


The atrium of the court is every extension of content (in the bible) that is not about the Temple, the altar and those that operate in them.

When one leaves out the atrium, for it was given to the nations, the understanding is given that, in every extension of text (in the bible) which is not about the Temple and the altar, one does not need to measure (or search for precision) because those contents are found mixed and were left to the nations.

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#112695 - 01/20/11 03:43 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Tamar Deburg]
harvest144 Offline


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Loc: Qld, Australia
Originally Posted By: Tamar Deburg
I'm curious....What does coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU?


Shalom Tamar,

To me, this means rejecting any & all human doctrines that are not completely supported by clear scriptural reasonings.

Then coming to an accurate knowledge, understanding & acceptance of the "clear light of scripture". (acceptance goes beyond knowledge & understanding, as satan & his demons know & understand, & yet rejected The Father)

Almost every "christian belief system" still contains some of the Roman beliefs that I believe we must divorce ourselves from, to gain our Heavenly Fathers approval.

H144

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#112703 - 01/22/11 07:20 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: harvest144]
yonah1 Offline


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The center piece of the Torah and the Ten Commandments revolves around the sanctity of Yahweh's name and the observance of His Sabbaths and Feast Days. From this everything else flows. And obviously this is what Babylon chooses to disregard - as they like Jews - put their own thoughts above those of Elohim and as a result - have never known the way of peace.

"The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace." Isaiah 59:8

THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME

"...It is time to bring the Church out of the Babylonian system and unite her in the truth. Since the time of the dark ages, the Church has struggled to free herself completely from the cords that entangled her and dimmed her light. The Spirit is once again calling for another step toward restoration. There will be those that will hear the voice of the Spirit that is crying, “Be not partakers of her sins...,” Revelations 18:4.

For every truth that has been revealed and accepted since the days of Martin Luther, there has been a great resistance and persecution. But restitution must come and with every wave of glory will come more persecution. Fear not, the fire is turned up to finish the refining process. The names Yahweh and Yasha have been rejected for years even by his people.

The removal of the names of the Father and his Son must be considered evil and a dishonor. It is one of the wrongs that must be set right just as the biblical feast and the Sabbath. And those who choose to participate will suffer for their stand. Listen to the words of Yasha,

“Then they will deliver you up to be afflicted, and will kill you; and you will be hated by all the nations for my name’s sake,” Matthew 24:9."


http://christthecreativeword.org/Messages/the_name_that_is_above_every_nam.htm

Why we use Yah and Yasha

http://www.eliyah.com/forum/messages/2254.html


Edited by yonah1 (01/24/11 12:31 PM)
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#112707 - 01/25/11 03:28 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: yonah1]
A_man_of_ELYON Offline


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Just as the word staff means stick and persons (a body of assistants) at one time, even so the word stick was used before in ancient writings to represent people,

I will gather the stick of Jiusaff (House of Joseph), which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the sticks of the tribes of Ishrael his fellows, and I will gather them all together to the stick of Judah (House of Judah) and make them into One stick in *mine* gathered hands.


Now a word that isn’t unnusual: Baby, which the Four Sticks use not to represent people, because the following Baby is for those who hide their love to depths of life
and ruin dreams that we all knew so,


O Baby, I got to fly – because you know I got to get away from you Baby


The message about who is the Baby from whom the Four Sticks are getting away, was previously sung in Celebration Day,


her name is B’rown, A’white or B’lack, You know her very well
you can hear her cries of mercy as the winners toll the bell



Instead of coming out of her, many are heading to the opposite direction,


There’s a train that leaves the station heading for your destination
But the price you pay to nowhere has increased a dollar more
And if you walk you're gonna get there, tho' it takes a little longer,
And when you see it in the distance you will wring your hands and moan.



The poor ones who take a little longer to get there and the ones who do not take the train nor pay the price one pays to nowhere (tithes of salary), will not be there when Baby fall.


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#112708 - 01/26/11 09:21 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: A_man_of_ELYON]
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Since there is no "W" in Hebrew, and we claim to be getting back to "Hebraic Roots" why is a "W" substituted so often for "V" in "VAV" the 3rd letter of the Tetragrammaton? This obviously has serious implications for the correct pronunciation of Elohim's name.

"Special uses of Vav - The letter vav is used to mean "and" ("vav Hachibur" - the vav of connection). This Vav of connection is most often pronounced "Veh," but in certain cases (before a Shwa) it becomes "oo." This is often more honored in the breach than in the observance.

Vav has several types of sounds in Hebrew:ן Vav as a consonant is pronounced "V." This is most often at the beginning of a word where it may mean "and" as in גד ושרה (Gad and Sarah). As "V" it can also be sounded according to the vowel associated with it, Vah or Veh or Vee. But a Vav with an oo sound is not Voo.

Shuruk - When a dot is put in the Vav it becomes an "oo" sound. A Voo sound would require two vavs. This sound occurs frequently when Vav is used to mean "and" and is placed at the start of a word that has a shwa (semi silent or silent vowel) under the first letter. For example: חנה ובנותיה - Pronounced - "Hahnah oo'vnohtayeh, meaning Hanna and her sons...."


http://www.zionism-israel.com/hebrew/Hebrew_Alphabet_for_Dummies_6.htm


ANCIENT HEBREW OR PALAEO-HEBREW LETTER FORM OF THE NAME YOD-HAY-UAU-HAY .... In short, there is no letter "W" in Hebrew. To render the sixth letter of the ...
www.fossilizedcustoms.com/hebrew.html - Cached


Edited by yonah1 (01/27/11 08:23 AM)
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#112712 - 01/27/11 08:15 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: yonah1]
yonah1 Offline


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Monday, September 20, 2010
http://www.beawatchman.blogspot.com/

"His Name!"

"Why is it that we serve the Creator Elohim/God who is the Only real God yet Jews and Christians are the only religions who do not use His Name? All other religions use the name of their god to differentiate between their god and other gods. Instead we use a title. God, Lord, Savior, etc. These are all titles. That would be like me always being called mom, wife, sister, daughter but never by my name, Kathe. I could be anyone's mom, or wife, or sister or daughter. The title does not make me different, my name does.

In the original Holy Scriptures our Creator's Name was written over 6,000 times. Because of Jewish tradition those writings were changed to a title instead.(Remember the verses where the Bible tells us what is going to happen to those who change His Word?) Going through those Holy Scriptures and replacing His Name everywhere the Bible says GOD, LORD, Adonai, Elohim, etc. makes you realize that His Name was EVERYWHERE in Scripture. It also makes you realize the importance that He puts upon His Name and that it is very important to use His Name, both in reading His Word and in conversation with others. In fact we are told in His Word that those of us who use His Name in conversation will be blessed.

Yet most don't even know His Name. A few weeks ago I had a conversation with a believer. I said Yahweh and she looked at me funny. I told her that Yahweh is the Name of God and she was confused. She thought His Name was God. When I told her the bit about it being a title like her title was mom she was floored. She had been to church for years and was never told that.

This is a huge disservice to Yahweh. And to believers as well. His Word tells us that by His Name we are saved. It does not say by His title we are saved. Think about that one for a moment. You can argue all you want against it, I'm just saying what He is saying. Take it for what it's worth....."


Edited by yonah1 (01/27/11 08:19 AM)
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#112713 - 01/27/11 08:51 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Tamar Deburg]
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Coming out of Babylon mean to come out of the world's religious system. Most if not all of the Christians churches is a branch of ancient pagan religion. I have attended many of these churches, but now I do not. Man-made religion covers most of Christianity. Babylon is the world's church. If you are a child of Almighty Yahweh and you know you are not where you need to be. Come Out, Search the Sacred Scriptures, and Almighty Yahweh will guide you to where you need to be. Praise Almighty Yahweh


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#112715 - 01/28/11 01:19 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Carrol]
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Originally Posted By: Carrol
Babylon is the world's church. If you are a child of Almighty Yahweh and you know you are not where you need to be. Come Out, Search the Sacred Scriptures, and Almighty Yahweh will guide you to where you need to be.

Praise Almighty Yahweh



AMEIN! - 1Cor 10: 21 "You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of Yahweh and the table of demons."


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#112716 - 01/28/11 08:33 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Carrol]
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Originally Posted By: Carrol
Search the Sacred Scriptures, and Almighty Yahweh will guide you to where you need to be.





O.Fr. sacrer (12c.), from O.L. saceres, bind, restrict, enclose, protect.
L. secretus 'set apart, withdrawn, hidden,' originally pp. of secernere 'to set apart,' from se- 'without, apart,' prop. 'on one's own' (from PIE *sed-, from base *s(w)e-; see idiom) + cernere 'separate'.


The versio vulgata from which all mastercopies of bibles left to religion and doctrines were made
has kept secretus (treasure hidden as it is said in the parable);
If you go to the texts in the Hebrew bible, the word Emunah [Fidelity, fidelitate, consistency, firmness]
is to remain having fidelity to Yhwh's Word only.

When keeping emunah secretus the versio vulgata mistranslates emunah to fides quae creditur [belief that is credited by spirits of man]




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#112717 - 01/28/11 10:53 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: A_man_of_ELYON]
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Are you eating food sacrificed to idols?


American pastor sounds alarm on supermarkets, restaurants
Posted: January 27, 2011
7:55 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2011 WorldNetDaily


ADVERTISEMENT: Whole Foods is among the growing number of U.S. companies offering Islamically permissible "halal" products at its stores.

"When you bite into a delicious pizza, succulent sandwich or luscious lamb chops, are you possibly eating food that has been sacrificed to idols?

An outspoken American pastor says yes, and he's sounding the alarm for Christians to be aware of the Islamic influence he calls "backdoor Shariah" now nibbling its way across the fruited plain.

At issue, says Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries http://www.elshaddaiministries.us/613commandments.html in Bonney Lake, Wash., is eating food that's"halal,"in other words "lawful" or "permitted" for the Muslim diet.

Muslims join many Jews and some Christians in avoiding the consumption of certain animals such as pigs and birds of prey, but those of the Islamic faith also have their meat blessed in the name of their god, Allah.

"From the Christian standpoint, Allah would be an idol," Biltz told WND.

In a sermon last weekend which he posted online, Biltz explained, "In order for it to be halal, they have to slaughter the animal facing Mecca ... and they have to say this prayer about Allah is great and greater than all other gods. Muslims can only eat food that is halal, that has been sacrificed to their idol, Allah ... and with Allah's name prayed over it."


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Biltz quotes directly from a Muslim-run site titled, "The Islamic Guidelines to Slaughtering Animals" to let Christians know some of the procedures involved in making sure meat is halal. According to author Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam:

Some evidences regarding the necessity of pronouncing the name of Allah when slaughtering:
a) Allah Most High says: "Eat not of (meats) over which Allah's name has not been pronounced. That would be impiety." (al-An' am, V. 121)

The above text is clear in determining the necessity of taking the name of Allah when slaughtering, and the unlawfulness of the animal when it is left out, as the major Qur'anic commentators explain.

b) Allah Almighty says: "They ask you what is lawful for them (as food). Say: Lawful unto you are (all) things good and pure and what you have taught your trained hunting animals (to catch) in the manner directed to you by Allah. Eat what they catch for you and pronounce the name of Allah over it." (al-Ma'idah, V.4)

Biltz is also publicizing a Muslim website called Zabihah.com which bills itself as the world's largest guide to halal restaurants and products. Consumers wondering where they can purchase halal food simply need to click on their geographic location......"


Read more: Are you eating food sacrificed to idols? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=255825#ixzz1CLRg5U9x


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#112816 - 03/21/11 04:31 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Tamar Deburg]
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Any thoughts on this view? He seems to put scriptures and history together well. te

Congregation of YHWH, Jerusalem, Po Box 832 Carteret NJ 07008

Lesson 15 Correspondence Course, Who is Babylon?

Except for Jerusalem, end time Babylon is mentioned in scripture more than any other place in the entire Bible. Because of the extreme importance of Yahweh’s end time remnant, recognizing who this end time Babylon actually is, our Heavenly Father has put more than 100 identifying marks about Babylon in Scripture so that there could be no mistaking who she is.

Some, through the teaching of false religion, want to simply think that Babylon is some church, or only a system of greed. However, how does scripture plainly characterize what end time Babylon actually is?

Jer 50:1 The Word that Yahweh spoke against Babylon, against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet:
Jer 50:3 For a nation comes up against her from the north, which shall make her land a desert. Yea, no one shall dwell in it. They shall flee, they shall go, both man and animal.
Jer 50:28 The voice of those who flee and escape out of the land of Babylon to declare in Zion the vengeance of Yahweh our Elohim, the vengeance of His sanctuary.

Jer 51:2 And I will send foreigners to Babylon who will sift her and shall empty her land. For in the day of evil they shall be against her all around.
Jer 51:3 Do not let the one treading fully tread his bow, nor go up in his armor. And do not spare her young men; utterly destroy all her army.
Jer 51:4 So the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, yea, pierced through in her streets.
Rev 18: 2 And he cried in a strong, great voice, saying, Babylon the great has fallen! It has fallen, and it has become a dwelling-place of those possessed by demons, and a home of every foul spirit, and a home of every unclean bird, even the home of every unclean and hateful beast,

Comment: Clearly, from scripture we see that Babylon is a land and not simply just a church or a system. It has a leader and also an army, and as we shall see it has an economic trading system that is the engine of the world economy in the end time.

In addition and of most importance it must be strongly understood that Jeremiah 50 and 51 never have happened in the history of humanity. Both of these chapters are end time prophecies.

When Cyrus the Meade overtook Babylon in 539 B.C., he diverted the water system away from the city and then entered under the wall where the water fed into it. He then opened up the two gigantic leaved gates and over took all of Babylon almost overnight, without any bloodshed or mass murdering. There was no total destruction that we see prophesied about end time Babylon in Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51.

Is there any other proof to show that Jeremiah 50 and 51 are end time chapters about Babylon and not about ancient Babylon?

Jer 50:4 In those days, and at that time, the sons of Israel shall come, declares Yahweh, they and the sons of Judah together, going and weeping; they shall go and seek Yahweh their Elohim.
Jer 50:5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces pointing there, saying, Come and let us join ourselves to Yahweh in an everlasting covenant never to be forgotten.
Jer 50:19 And I will again bring Israel to his home, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied on Mount Ephraim and Gilead.
Jer 50:20 In those days, and at that time, states Yahweh, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and it is not; and the sins of Judah, and they will not be found; for I will pardon those whom I leave as a remnant.

Comment: The phrase “in those days and at that time” is a Jewish idiom that can only refer to the end times or latter days in Scripture. Also, and of most importance, this scripture is speaking about the restoring of both Israel and Judah back into sovereignty in their homeland, Israel. This never happened under the invasion of Cyrus in 539 B.C. Judah was not restored sovereignty until 1948 and the northern tribes of Israel are still in Diaspora until today.

In addition, the northern tribes of Israel went into captivity to Assyria and other places in 721-718 B.C., and were not even present during King Cyrus’s invasion of Babylon, so Jeremiah 50 and 51 could not be speaking about ancient Babylon, but only end time Babylon as mentioned.

So another very clear identifying marker to who end time Babylon is, is the fact that both the majority of Judah and Israel are living in end time Babylon and return to Israel from her.

Does Jeremiah 50 and 51 speak about an invasion of Babylon that brings total destruction and annihilation?

Jer 50:13 Because of the wrath of Yahweh, it shall not be inhabited, but all of it shall be a waste. Everyone who goes by Babylon shall be amazed and hiss at all her plagues.
Jer 50:26 Come against her from the end, open her granaries, pile her up as heaps and utterly destroy her. Do not let a remnant be left.
Jer 51:58 So says Yahweh of Hosts, The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly laid bare, and her high gates shall be burned with fire. And the peoples shall labor as for vanity, and the peoples as for fire; and they shall be weary.
Jer 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon; yea, each man deliver his soul. Do not be silenced in her iniquity. For it is the time of the vengeance of Yahweh. He will give her a just recompense. He will repay her.
Jer 51:43 Her cities have become a ruin, a dry land and a wilderness, a land in which no man dwells, nor does any son of man pass by it.
Jer 51:62 then you shall say, O Yahweh, You have spoken against this place to cut it off so that none shall remain in it, from man to animal, but it shall be a ruin forever.

Comment: Clearly, the destruction that is spoken about in Jeremiah 50 and 51 is a total devastation. It also clearly states that no one will ever live in this end time Babylon after the destruction mentioned in Jeremiah 50 and 51.

In addition as stated when Cyrus the Mede invaded Babylon in 539 B.C. he did it with much ease. There was no mass murders, no fleeing of Jews, and no total annihilation as mentioned in Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51. In fact, there were more Jews living in ancient Babylon in the days of Yahshua in the 1st century than even in Israel. Clearly, Jeremiah chapter 50 and chapter 51 are a future prophecy and were not historical to the invasion of King Cyrus.

It is also important to mention that when this end time Babylon is destroyed it will never be rebuilt again, but in modern times Saddam Hussein, in the 1980’s, did rebuilt ancient Babylon in Iraq, clearly, disqualifying ancient Iraq as the place of end time Babylon. Also, if some will believe that these prophesies are speaking about end time Babylon being in modern day Iraq, this would be impossible. End time Babylon will be completely destroyed, with no one living in her forever but modern Iraq will actually be part of the promised land during the Millennial reign of Messiah as outlined in Genesis 15:18 and other scriptures.

Therefore, we actually have the whole chapters of Jeremiah 50 and 51 as well as Revelation chapters 17 and 18 that are completely centered on end time Babylon, as well as other scriptures.

What are some of the predominant characteristics of end time Babylon?

Rev 17: 5 And on her forehead was a name having been written: Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Harlots and of the Abominations of the Earth.

Comment: First, we see from the above scripture that Babylon is called “Mystery” Babylon. This is a connotation, showing that Babylon cannot merely be ancient Iraq, as where would the mystery be? There is more to end time Babylon that has to be revealed through her characteristics. In addition, she is called Babylon “The Great”. The word is “Megala”, meaning “Superpower”. Therefore, we clearly see that end time Babylon must be the world’s superpower and not just any nation.

What are some of the other predominant characteristics of end time Babylon?

Hab 1:6 For, behold, I raise up the Chaldeans, the bitter and impetuous nation which is going into the broad spaces of the land, to possess dwellings not his own.
Hab 1:7 He is terrible and fearful; his judgment and his glory goes forth from himself.
Hab 1:8 His horses also are swifter than leopards and are fiercer than the evening wolves. And their horsemen spread themselves; yea, their horsemen come from afar; they shall fly as the eagle hurrying to eat.
Hab 1:9 All of him shall come for violence; the gathering of their faces is forward; and they gather captives like the sand.
Hab 1:10 And he shall scoff against the kings, and officials shall be a scorn to him. He shall scorn every fortress, and he shall heap up dirt and capture it.
Hab 1:11 Then he sweeps on like a wind; and he passes on and is guilty, crediting this power of his to his god.

Comment: The first thing we see here about end time Babylon is how they become a great nation. In verse six it explains that they go into the broad places of the land possessing dwellings not their own. This is exactly how America became a nation by going across the United States and taking the land away from the American Indians.

Then it goes on to tell us what a mighty fighting machine end time Babylon actually is. There horses (machinery) are swifter (better) and fiercer than all opponents. They shall also fly as the eagle, showing their powerful air force might. They shall capture opponents as sand. This is exactly what happened when America overtook Iraq and Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War. You could see the captives in the dessert by the thousands putting down their weapons and like sand on the seashore being taken away by end time Babylon, the United States of America.

Then, Babylon scoffs at Kings (leaders) and officials (world leaders) shall be a scorn to Babylon. Which other country in the world today, except for America does whatever it deems right militarily? What country scoffs at the United Nations and shows its power to any detractor that would dare try to stand up to it?

There have been other dictator type leaders such as Saddam Hussein, who tried to talk a big talk but in the end, only America, Babylon has had the military might in these last days to perform the military prowess that only end time Babylon could perform.

Let’s look at some other characteristics of end time Babylon.

Rev 17: 1 And one of the seven cherubs having the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying to me, Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot sitting on the many waters,
Rev 17: 15 And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.
Jer 50:37 A sword is on his horses and his chariots, and to all the mixed people in her midst. And they shall become as women. A sword is to her treasuries, and they shall be robbed.

Comment: We see in both Jeremiah and Revelation that Babylon is a great melting pot and many different races of people dwell in her land. There is no greater melting pot in the history of the world then The United States of America. When Saddam Hussein was digging up ancient Babylon back in the 1980’s, they found very old cuneiform writings from ancient Babylon.

These writings are very interesting because before they thought that Istar, the false goddess of Babylon, was simply a temple prostitute. However, these writings showed, that she was actually called the mother of immigrants. She also had a seven spiked crown and either a golden cup or torch in her hand. In her other hand, she held the law of Hammurabi. This is a striking resemblance to the Statue of Liberty in the New York Harbor today, the largest idol in the world. Interesting enough, the Statue of Liberty was named after the Roman goddess Libertas, who is named after the Greek goddess Diana, who is in reality the Babylonian goddess Istar. The waters also represent actual fresh water seaports that Babylon exhibits, something that is abundant in the United States but absent in ancient Babylon in Iraq.

Another characteristic about who is end time Babylon, is the fact that end time Babylon will be the world policeman.

Jer 50:23 How the hammer (superpower) of all the earth is cut off and broken! How Babylon has become a ruin among the nations!

Comment: This phrase in the original Hebrew is actually a Hebrew idiom that literally means world policeman; the concept of the hammer of the earth being one who pounds and pounds his opponents. If one is honest with themselves, there is no other modern superpower that has used their military and economic power to pound and pound their opponents. Whether it is forced monetary sanctions at the United Nations, or literal military invasion as we have seen in Kosovo, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan Grenada, Sudan, Libya, etc. America has pounded all nations that opposed them in modern times.

It is also prophesied that end time Babylon would not be a dictatorship but would be a democracy where leaders from all nations in the world would meet together in end time Babylon to discuss world problems.

Isa 47:13a You are exhausted by the multitude of your counsels,
Jer 51:44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he has swallowed up. And the nations shall not flow together any more to him; yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
Rev 17:18-18 And the woman whom you saw is the great city, having dominion over the kings of the earth.

Comment: Only in New York City in the United States is the United Nations, where all nations assemble together in Babylon to try to solve the world’s problems. When Babylon is destroyed, they will have to meet in another location. Revelation 17:9 speaks of Babylon sitting on seven mountains. In scripture, mountains indicate large landmasses and this scripture is showing that Babylon controls all seven landmasses, which we call continents. Some have erroneously used this scripture to mean Rome, since Rome sits on seven hills.
However, hill is a different word in both Hebrew and Greek than mountain, and clearly, the definition is of mountains not hills.

It also prophesied that end time Babylon will even have a space program.

Jer 51:9b For her judgment reaches to the heavens and is lifted up to the skies.
Jer 51:53 Though Babylon should ascend up to the heavens, and though she should fortify her strong height, plunderers shall come from Me to her, states Yahweh.

Comment: the Hebrew word for “lift up” in the above verse is actually “Nasa” the very name of the American space program.

Does end time Babylon deceive the people through prescription medicine and drugs?

Rev 18:23b For your merchants were the great ones of the earth, for by your sorceries (pharmacia) all the nations were deceived.

Comment: The people in the end time would be deceived by Babylon’s sorceries. This word in the original is “pharmakia”, where we get our modern word for pharmacy. The modern medical field today is not committed to actually curing people by dealing with the cause of the sickness, but rather treating people by dealing with the effect of the sickness.

How many Americans are on several pills a day for the rest of their lives treating ailments but never curing them? Gigantic drug companies such as Merck, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer has millions upon millions of people on daily drugs for everything, from cholesterol to heart conditions to diabetes etc.
Even millions of children are put on antidepressant drugs such as Ritalin and Paxcil.
Our heavenly Father has given humanity the leaves of the trees and plants for every kind of herbal formula for healing every disease (Rev 22:2), but Babylon has deceived the people through Pharmaceutical medicines that Scripture relates to as sorcery. The major health problem in the United States today is caused by an unhealthy diet, due to people living on fast foods and sugar, which destroys the immune system.

Here is another interesting characteristic and result about end time Babylon relating to the deception that has been placed on the people for getting them addicted to drugs and fast food and white sugar and white flour products.

Jer 50:11 Because you rejoice, because you exult, O destroyers of My inheritance, because you are fat like the heifer in grass, and neigh like strong ones,

Comment: Obesity in the United States has become a real problem over the last decade. Even small children today are extremely overweight. America has the best doctors and medical facilities in the world and the most overweight and unhealthy society in the world. Super sizing at fast food restaurants and all you can eat buffets have become the culture of modern America/Babylon. Statistics show that the average person drinks enough soda daily that accounts to 82 teaspoons of sugar. Sugar is also very addictive and only one element difference from cocaine. That is actually, where the name Coke A Cola came from, due to the small amount of cocaine substance in the drink.

There is one characteristic though, about end time Babylon that actually encompasses everything else about her. End time Babylon is the core of the engine of the end-time world economy. She has set up through her democratic trading status a world trading system like none other that the world has ever known. She has also made all the other world leaders and merchants rich through the mighty economic machine that she instituted all throughout the world.

Rev 18: 3 because of the wine of the anger of her fornication which all the nations have drunk, even the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her; and the merchants of the earth became rich from the power of her trade.
Rev 18: 9 And the kings of the earth will weep for her, and will wail over her, those having fornicated and having luxuriated with her, when they see the smoke of her burning;
Rev 18: 10 standing from afar because of the fear of her torment, saying, Woe! Woe to the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment came.
Rev 18: 11 And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their merchandise any more,
Rev 18: 12 Never again will there be (trading) merchandise of gold, and silver, and of precious stone, and of pearls, and of fine linen, and of purple, and of silk, and of scarlet, and all aromatic wood, and every ivory vessel, and every vessel of very precious wood, and of bronze, and of iron, and of marble,
Rev 18: 13 and cinnamon, and perfumes, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and of bodies and souls of men.
Rev 18: 14 And the ripe fruits that your soul lusted after have went away from you, and all things delicious and splendid have perished from you; and you shall obtain them no more at all.
Rev 18: 15 The merchants of these things, the ones being enriched from her, will stand from afar because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning;
Rev 18: 16 and saying, Woe! Woe to the great city having been clothed in linen and purple and scarlet, and having been gilded with gold and precious stone, and pearls!
Rev 18: 17 For in one hour such great wealth was desolated. And every ship-pilot and all company on the ships, and sailors, and as many as work the sea, stood from afar,
Rev 18: 18 and cried out, seeing the smoke of her burning, saying, What other is like the great city?
Rev 18: 19 And they threw dust on their heads, and cried out, weeping and mourning, saying, Woe! Woe to the great city, by which all those having ships in the sea were rich, from her costliness, because in one hour she was ruined.

Comment: These scriptures more than any other clearly define who only end time Babylon could be. It actually names 25 specific things that Babylon trades more than any other nation. Only in the United States does it have a commodity exchange that you can trade all 25 items listed.

In addition, without a shadow of the doubt, it is the country of the United States of America and the American people who import all the worlds’ goods, who the merchants of the earth would “wail and cry” if they did not exist any longer. If one is honest with themselves, there is no other nation on earth who imports and consumes the goods of all other nations as the United State does. China is growing on the world export market but they are sellers not consumers and buyers like the Americans are. Clearly, there is only one nation on earth today who fits the above scripture and it is the United States of America. Up until 1981, there were only a handful of stock market exchanges worldwide, but now almost every country on earth has adopted the trading system of America/Babylon to incorporate into their own.

Also, look at verse 14, where it states that “the ripe fruits that your soul lusted after have gone away from you and all delicious and splendid things have perished from you”. In most places in the world, you do not eat your favorite fruits and food all year long, but you simply eat them when they are in season from your local outdoor market.

Only in the United States do people get food transported from other places year round, so that they can eat their delicacies whenever they desire.

Besides being the world’s biggest consumer of goods and the very engine of the world economy, end time Babylon is also world renowned for their luxurious lifestyles and their pleasure seeking attitudes. Pride and pleasure seeking is a key component to identifying who end time Babylon is.

Isa 47:6 I was angry with My people; I defiled My inheritance and gave them into your hand. You gave them no mercy; you made your yoke on the aged very heavy.
Isa 47:7 And you said, I shall be a mistress forever, until you did not set these things on your heart, and did not remember its end.
Isa 47:8 Now, then, hear this, O pleasure seeker, who lives carelessly; who says in her heart, I am, and none else is; I shall not sit as a widow, nor shall I know the loss of children.
Isa 47:9 But these two things shall suddenly come to you, in one day: loss of children, and widowhood; according to completeness they come on you, for your many sorceries, for the power of your great spells.
Isa 47:10 For you trusted in your evil; you said, No one sees me. Your wisdom and your knowledge; it is turning you back, and you said in your heart, I am and none else is.

Rev 18: 6 Give back to her as also she gave back to you, and double to her double, according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix to her double.
Rev 18: 7 By what things she glorified herself, and luxuriated, by so much give back to her torment and mourning. Because she says in her heart, I sit as a queen, and I am not a widow; and I shall not see sorrow.
Rev 18: 8 Because of this, in one day her plagues shall come: death, and mourning, and famine; and she will be consumed with fire, for Adonai Yahweh judging her is strong.
Rev 18: 9 And the kings of the earth will weep for her, and will wail over her, those having fornicated and having luxuriated with her, when they see the smoke of her burning;

Rev 18: 16 and saying, Woe! Woe to the great city having been clothed in linen and purple and scarlet, and having been gilded with gold and precious stone, and pearls!
Rev 18: 17a For in one hour such great wealth was desolated.

Comment: Can anyone deny that these scriptures clearly define the United States of America? There is no other single nation on earth, which has a standard of living such as the United States. Most in the west have no concept of what world democracy, which America/Babylon has brought to the world, has done to the majority of people living on this earth.

While the NAFTA and GATT, treaties of the 1990’s under Bill Clinton, brought widespread prosperity to most in the U.S. and an unprecedented rise in the New York stock exchange, it was not the same in most of the rest of the world. While someone in New York can buy a Gucci dress shirt for $100 or more, the tag may still say made in Honduras or Philippines. The poor soul who actually made the shirt is working for about 20 cents an hour while the U.S. Corporation is making billions of dollars.

This is what Babylon has brought to the world through world democracy. Poor women in Africa work picking tea with their babies on their backs all day and make about 10 cents a basket. If they truly work hard, they may fill two or possibly three baskets in the heat of the day. In even worse case scenarios parents in places like India and the Ivory Coast, sell their children for $50 for slave labor, as they are so poor that they do not even have food to eat.

So, we can see why our Heavenly Father is so upset with Babylon as she has luxuriated herself through her so called free trade, 70% of the world or more do not even have clean water to drink, food to eat, or sustained incomes to live. 70% of the world today lives on $5 a week or less, and the number one job in the world today is working in rice fields and patties, making very little money to support their families.

Many people living in places such as Philippines and Sri Lanka have to leave their families for years to work overseas making maybe $40 or $50 a week and send all the money home, hoping to help their children have a better life than they do. However, they do so at the expense of not seeing their little children grow and sometimes the children do not even know who their parents are. Babylon’s economic prowess made the merchants and bankers of the world rich but at the expense of billions of poor people worldwide.

This is the real key to understanding why Yahweh is so angry about end time Babylon; because Babylon did not only destroy itself with it’s over abundant lifestyles and covetous spirit, but it did so at the enslavement of the souls of men (Rev 18:13).

Does the Bible tell us what will be the punishment for the nation of Babylon for the great crimes that she has committed before Yahweh?

Jer 50:2 Declare among the nations, and make them hear, and lift up a banner. Make them hear, do not hide it; say, Babylon is captured, Bel is put to shame, Merodach is broken in pieces, her images are put to shame, her idols are broken in pieces.
Jer 50:3 For a nation comes up against her from the north, which shall make her land a desert. Yea, no one shall dwell in it. They shall flee, they shall go, both man and animal.
Jer 50:13 Because of the wrath of Yahweh, it shall not be inhabited, but all of it shall be a waste. Everyone who goes by Babylon shall be amazed and hiss at all her plagues.
Jer 50:26 Come against her from the end, open her granaries, pile her up as heaps and utterly destroy her. Do not let a remnant be left.
Jer 51:58 So says Yahweh of Hosts, The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly laid bare, and her high gates shall be burned with fire. And the peoples shall labor as for vanity, and the peoples as for fire; and they shall be weary.
Jer 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon; yea, each man deliver his soul. Do not be silenced in her iniquity. For it is the time of the vengeance of Yahweh. He will give her a just recompense. He will repay her.
Jer 51:43 Her cities have become a ruin, a dry land and a wilderness, a land in which no man dwells, nor does any son of man pass by it.
Jer 51:62 then you shall say, O Yahweh, You have spoken against this place to cut it off so that none shall remain in it, from man to animal, but it shall be a ruin forever.
Isa 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of the kingdoms, the beauty of the pride of the Chaldeans, shall be as when Elohim overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
Isa 13:20 It shall not be lived in forever, nor shall it be lived in from generation to generation. And the desert wanderer shall not pitch a tent there, nor shall the shepherds make flocks lie down there.
Jer 51:29 And the land trembles and writhes in pain. For every purpose of Yahweh shall be done against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a waste without one living in it.
Jer 51:37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a home for jackals, a horror and a hissing, without even one inhabitant.
Jer 51:43 Her cities have become a ruin, a dry land and a wilderness, a land in which no man dwells, nor does any son of man pass by it.


Comment: Clearly, we see from Scripture that end time Babylon is indeed a land and not a religion and that it will be completely destroyed. Scripture tells us that not even one human being will survive. It is interesting to note that the scripture in Isaiah speaking of the total destruction of end time Babylon is clearly end time as verse 6 and verse 9 clearly show that this destruction is coming during the Day of Yahweh, which is His wrath during the seven last bowls of Revelation.

There are different ciphers that are used for Babylon in Jeremiah 50 and 51. Ciphers are hidden meanings in words to hide the identity of the entity. One such name is “merathaim” which means double punishment. In addition, we read in Revelation 18 that it says give back to her double as she has given to you. This again is showing a double punishment to end time Babylon. The first punishment will be taking down her sovereignty over the kings of the earth and the second punishment at the return of Yahshua is complete annihilation, where not even one person will ever dwell in her again.

It should also be noted at this point that it is not the beautiful mountains or landscape of the United States that Yahweh is angry with. Although Babylon is a nation, as clearly shown from Scripture, it is the system of world democracy that end time Babylon has brought to the world to corrupt all nations that Yahweh is angered with.

Babylon has been a succession of world systems starting with Nimrod and the tower of Babel. Then, Egypt took over as the Babylonian style world empire, after that it was Assyria, and then Babylon, the Persians, after them Greece, and then Rome the sixth, and now America Babylon heading the New World Order is the seventh system of global government. When America/Babylon is destroyed by the beast of Revelation 13 and 17 that she created and is now riding, that beast will be the eighth system of world government, but of the 7th (Rev 17:7-9), as it is already part of the global system of government that America/ Babylon has set up under the United Nations in 1948.

The beast (United Nations) that Babylon/America set up has 7 heads (5 permanent members, a rotating president and a secretary general) and ten horns (ten rotating members on the security council that sit monthly with the five permanent members), who ultimately hate Babylon who is riding (controlling) them and will destroy her.

Does scripture actually tell us who will destroy end time Babylon?

Dan 5:28 HALF MINAS: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
Jer 51:11 Purify the arrows, fill the shields; Yahweh has aroused the spirit of the kings of the Medes. For His plan is against Babylon, to destroy it, because it is the vengeance of Yahweh, the vengeance of His sanctuary.

Comment: Scripture gives us a very graphic account of the end times in the book of Daniel. Daniel was written as a shadow to show what will happen in the end times (Dan 2: 28,44, Dan 7:17-18, Dan 8:17,19, Dan10:14). In Daniel’s time, it was prophesied that there would be four parts of that beast system that will be in the end time. They consist of Babylon, Media- Persia, Greece and then Rome (world government).

The parallel we have today from the book of Daniel is the head of gold is Babylon/America, as proven in this study. The nations who will destroy Babylon are prophesied to be the Medes and the Persians. If you look at who these nations are on any bible map, you will see that it is the Iranians and Russia primarily, with Ukraine and other Soviet block countries helping them.

This is very interesting considering the geo-political situation going on in the world today. Iran calls America the big satan and Israel the little satan and has challenged Washington D.C. as no other leader in recent times has, except for maybe Saddam Hussein. It is also, interesting to note that since America’s invasion of Iraq in 2003, that end time Babylon/America is occupying ancient Babylon in Iraq. The parallels are striking.

The president of Iran has consistently mentioned about the Madhi or Muslim Messiah returning. He also mentioned that he could only return if the whole world is in utter chaos. He is a “12ver”, which is a very elect group in Islam whose whole existence is to bring about the return of the Madhi. They are also becoming a nuclear power with vast capabilities. They have been trying to develop EMP weapons that could cripple all electronics in the U.S. and change life there permanently.

Russia on the other hand (ancient Medes) has signed a military pact with Iran promising to help them in a military conflict. They have also taken a much larger position on the world scene and have had much friction with the U.S. in recent years.

Does Yahweh’s destruction on end time Babylon also have something to do with the nation of Israel?

Jer 51:49 As Babylon is to fall for the slain of Israel, so for Babylon the slain of all the earth shall fall.
Jer 51:35 The violence done to me and to my flesh is on Babylon, the one living in Zion shall say. And Jerusalem shall say, My blood shall be on those living in Chaldea.
Jer 51:36 So Yahweh says this: Behold, I will strive for you and take vengeance for you. And I will dry up her sea and make her well dry.
Jer 51:37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a home for jackals, a horror and a hissing, without even one inhabitant.

If America is a friend of Israel and always has been a stanch supporter of Israel, why would the Scriptures indicate that America/Babylon has betrayed Israel?

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days and in that time, when I bring again the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat. And I will enter into judgment with them there, for My people and My inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; and they divided My land.

Zec 1:18 Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and, behold, four horns!
Zec 1:19 And I said to the Messenger who was talking with me, What are these? And he answered me, These are the horns that have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.
Zec 1:20 And Yahweh made me see four craft masons.
Zec 1:21 And I said, What are these coming to do? And He spoke, saying, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man lifts up his head. But these have come to terrify them, to throw down the horns of the nations who lifted up their horn over the land of Judah, to scatter it.

Eze 17:12 Say now to the rebellious house, Do you not know what these mean? But speak, Behold, the king of Babylon has come to Jerusalem, and has taken its king and its rulers, and has brought them to himself at Babylon.
Eze 17:13 And he took of the royal seed, and he has cut with him a covenant and has made him enter into an oath. And he took the mighty of the land,
Eze 17:14 that the kingdom might be low, that it might not lift itself up to keep its covenant, that it might stand.

Comment: It is very clear from Scripture that America/Babylon will be the leader in perpetrating a false peace deal with the Arabs and forcing Israel to divide Yahweh’s covenant land, which only belongs to Him (Lev 25:23). As we see in Joel the third chapter, this coercing by America/Babylon to divide Jerusalem will lead to the punishment of Babylon and ultimately, bring on the Day of YHWH and His wrath on an unrepentant world. It is also interesting to note in Zechariah, the first chapter that it is four masons who are working to divide Israel and scatter Judah. Today we have a group called the quartet (four) who are made up of America, Russia, United Nations and the European Union. The job of this group is to bring about a peace deal in Israel by dividing the land of Israel and making two states, a Jewish state and a Palestinian state.

What about all of Yahweh’s covenant people living in America, end time Babylon? What will happen to all these people if Yahweh destroys all of the United States? Does Yahweh warn His true covenant people to do something to avoid this devastation?

Jer 50:8 Flee from the midst of Babylon, and go out of the land of the Chaldeans (astrologers), and be as the he goats before the flocks.
Jer 50:9 For, behold, I am stirring up and bringing up a company of great nations from a northern land against Babylon. And they shall array themselves against her. She shall be captured there; their arrows shall be as those of a mighty, skillful man; they shall not return empty.
Jer 50:28 The voice of those who flee and escape out of the land of Babylon to declare in Zion the vengeance of Yahweh our Elohim, the vengeance of His sanctuary.
Jer 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon; yea, each man deliver his soul. Do not be silenced in her iniquity. For it is the time of the vengeance of Yahweh. He will give her a just recompense. He will repay her.
Jer 51:45 My people, go out of her midst, and deliver each man his soul from the burning anger of Yahweh.
Zec 2:7 Woe, O Zion! Escape, you who live with the daughter of Babylon.
Rev 18: 4 And I heard another voice out of Heaven saying, leave the land of her, My people, that you may not share in her sins, and that you may not receive of her plagues;
Rev 18: 5 because her sins joined together, even reach up to Heaven, and Yahweh remembered her unjust deeds.

Comment: Yahweh will never bring judgment unless He first gives a warning to His covenant people. Clearly, from the Scriptures we see that Yahweh is warning His covenant elect to flee the land of Babylon before His destruction comes on her.

Will there be places of refuge inside of Babylon for people who do not want to flee?

Jer 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed. Forsake her, and let us go, each one into his own country. For her judgment reaches to the heavens and is lifted up to the skies.
Jer 51:43 Her cities have become a ruin, a dry land and a wilderness, a land in which no man dwells, nor does any son of man pass by it.
Jer 51:62 then you shall say, O Yahweh, You have spoken against this place to cut it off so that none shall remain in it, from man to animal, but it shall be a ruin forever.


Comment: It is extremely clear from all the scriptures covered in this study that there is not one prophecy that even remotely claims that there will be some kind of a refuge for believers in Babylon in the end time. It is the complete opposite. It is clearly laid out many times that there will be no refuge in Babylon, but Yahweh’s covenant people will have to flee the land to save their lives and not even one single soul will be left in the land of Babylon.

The timing of ones fleeing is extremely crucial in the end times. If you were in ancient Egypt during the first Passover, you would not have wanted to put the blood on the door one day too late or you could have died by the death angel. You also would not want to leave too early and wind up back in Babylon as Israel learned in the wilderness, that turning back once delivered is a grave sin against Yahweh.

Some people Yahweh is calling out of Babylon as the he-goats before the flock (Jer 50:8), and others He is preparing for a later exodus right before her destruction. From Scripture it indicates that most are fleeing when Babylon is falling, as the Scriptures even say “run for your lives” which the word flee indicates.

The doctrine and policy of the Congregation of Yahweh Jerusalem is to preach the truth of Scripture,
which is that America fits every and all scriptures pertaining to end time Babylon, and indeed is end time Babylon.

In addition, there are seven direct commands to flee the land of Babylon, not only to save your physical life but also to avoid partaking in her sins (Rev 18:4). When one is living in Babylon then they are supporting the system of Babylon through the commerce that they would do on a daily basis. Buying goods, paying taxes and consuming merchandise is what gives Babylon the financial strength to have brought world democracy to the entire earth. Your tax dollars are going to pay for legal abortions and also producing the war machine that America/Babylon has become. This is the main reason Yahweh calls His covenant elect out of that system and ultimately nation, that will be destroyed because they brought that system to the entire world.

Yahweh’s word also tells us in Mathew the 7th chapter not to judge, lest we be judged. So in this regard, it is also the policy of the Congregation of Yahweh Jerusalem not to judge any brother or sister who has not been delivered yet out of Babylon/America, knowing that it is Yahweh and His timing that will deliver His covenant people. The Congregation of Yahweh Jerusalem also does not place any spiritual superiority to those who have left Babylon to those who have not.

The main purpose to understanding end time Babylon is to first and foremost come out of the system of world democracy that Satan has created through end time Babylon. We as believers also need to work on coming out of religious Babylon and the pagan customs that organized religion brings. Then it is solely up to an individual or family to decide for themselves through prayer and fasting, when Yahweh is leading them physically out of the land of Babylon and where He is leading them to.

It is also extremely prudent to do due diligence and research to any given country one may be planning on going to. Many country’s laws today, such as Israel, only allow visitors to stay a maximum of three months in a calendar year. Many countries also restrict visitors from working.

The key to understanding end time Babylon is that many have exchanged faith in Yahweh for trust in the government and system of Babylon. Government handouts and public education and health care are just the tip of the iceberg to how dependant people have become on the government and the system and how less dependant they have become on Yahweh Almighty. Remember it is only FAITH in YAHWEH that will get anyone through the end times that we are now living in. Physically leaving Babylon should be an act of faith, not pride or self-righteousness.

Points to Remember:

1) Babylon is a land and not simply a system or church
2) Babylon is the top military might in the world
3) Babylon is the engine of the world economy
4) Babylon has the highest standard of living in the world
5) Babylon is rebuked for her pride and arrogance
6) Babylon will be completely destroyed before the Kingdom comes
7) Yahweh warns His covenant elect to flee the land of Babylon and not to partake in her sins and also not to receive of her plagues

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#112954 - 06/06/11 09:21 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: 123]
ema Offline


Registered: 05/12/11
Posts: 18
Loc: New Jerusalem H'Shamyeem
Shalom -- (not my PC-no time to read it all -TY for Address:)

Thank you for
Main points <-clearly marked...

i was searching for Script re: "Eyes of Fire"
-^- These i see over the Capital ALB NY -knowing they are assoceated with the "ufo"...
-Paul/Shaul uses the word "Celestieal"
Having both the fascination & following "rebuke/ing" of them..
i seek pray/ers/ ...

Yest- YHWH having mercy on me- i was able to connect with a Prophet Right out of Scripture! --

William Dean http://wwfar.com/schd-mo.html
-The Keystone Treasure


^This was the first - i had a live conversation where another of mankind gave comprehension re: those morph-craft..

More importent [re Kingdom] Fear of YHWH -||- must hear^



If you have content re. these things;

pls. l o v (dot) t a p @ g m a i l (dot) c o m


Very greatfully,
ema Shulomet


Edited by ema (06/06/11 09:25 AM)

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#112976 - 06/21/11 06:32 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: 123]
ema Offline


Registered: 05/12/11
Posts: 18
Loc: New Jerusalem H'Shamyeem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=696n61fQ9Nc
^
Nomadic -- the only way to Free

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#113149 - 09/16/11 02:34 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: ema]
yeshuaslave Offline


Registered: 10/26/04
Posts: 176
Loc: tulsa

^
Nomadic -- the only way to Free
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new era for me..... if YHVH OPENS DOOR.
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my 'struggle' in tulsa for 20 years may soon be over.
with no fellowship here it has been very difficult at times
but the
lesson(s) ongoing of trusting HIM TOTALLY have been extreme (for american) and wonderful (for anyone)...
.
anyway,
i may be uprooted very soon - within days or weeks perhaps -
and
willingly looking / searching / stepping out /going on to
(____________)
..
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anywhere YHVH opens a door of fellowship i hope
yet
pray not just so, but simply anywhere HE DIRECTS ME, rough or smooth going.
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i am game to pray / fellowship / sojourn / work anywhere with any one / group / family that keeps and honors TRH, especially and strictly NEVER WORK FOR MONEY ON SHABBAT. (that was one of YHVH-ABBA'S FIRST AND VERY EMPHATIC LESSONS TO ME that almost every other 'sabbath-keeper' that i have met violates willingly if they think they "have to to pay the bills"... NYET! i say... the bill(s) go unpaid if YHVH does not provide... and YHVH-ABBA HAS ALWAYS PROVIDED!!!! )
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"...suffer persecution so
that, perhaps, take part in
resurrection..." Paul's letter

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#113328 - 02/23/12 06:17 PM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: A_man_of_ELYON]
MENZ Offline


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Posts: 5
Thank you for the good information that you have shared with us.

I have a question. I also believe America is Babylon, but does that also include Hawaii and Alaska, because Revelation 16:18 & 19, says Babylon is divided into three parts by an earthquake. Hawaii and Alaska are not connected to the 48 States.

In Jeremiah 50:23, says Babylon is "Broken". In Hebrew, the word "Broken" means... to burst, Break (down, off, IN PIECES...

Is Babylon just the 48 States? Hawaii was just recently added to America only about 60 years ago.

One of the reasons I ask this is because a family member, who is very sick, would not be given a passport to travel to another country because of his health condition.

Would going to Hawaii be coming out of Babylon?

I have heard that some of the people in Hawaii say that they are not part of the United States.

Thank you for your help!

Shalom,
In the Name Yah Yahshua

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#113330 - 02/25/12 11:45 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: MENZ]
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Posts: 306
Zeph 3:8 "I have decided to assemble the nations,
to gather the kingdoms
and to pour out my wrath on them—
all my fierce anger.
The whole world will be consumed
by the fire of my jealous anger."


That will include Alaska and Hawaii

And you can't get out of the world

1 Corinthians 5:9-10

So Babylon isn't just the US
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John 17:6

“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#113366 - 03/19/12 07:44 AM Re: What does....Coming out of Babylon mean to....YOU [Re: Tamar Deburg]
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Registered: 03/19/12
Posts: 5
Need a place to go after leaving confusion.

I live in the mountain in Hawaii. I just pitch a tent and knock down trees for a garden I have 2 others here and we want to start a messianic communal living to study torah and observe feast days. Email me on Facebook
Aaron Scott bullock

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