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#113194 - 10/29/11 02:24 AM Re: Called, Saved, Chosen [Re: yeshuaslave]
yonah1 Offline


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Luke 13:22-24

"And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."

Romans 11:25-26

"I would not have ye be ignorant of this mystery, brethren, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved..."


Edited by yonah1 (10/29/11 08:28 AM)
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John 17:6

“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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#113196 - 10/30/11 02:19 AM Re: Called, Saved, Chosen [Re: yonah1]
yeshuaslave Offline


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“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."

*** "I have revealed your name ***
Mt 16:15-20
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Luke 9:20,21 - 20 He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. 21 And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing;

notes:
"Today very few Christian pastors, theologians, or "Messianics" agree with Peter and do not really know who Yeshua is. They are proclaiming a totally unscriptural "Christ!" ... ... ...

"When Christianity in the early centuries brutally and intentionally divested itself of the Hebraic mindset it lost virtually all truth, developed a largely false religion, and the anti-Messianic Beastly religion achieved dominance. THE major error that ensued was ... ... ... creating a new "Christological creed". Anti-Semitism and anti-Judaism lie at the very core of Traditional Christian dogma. When the Hebraic foundations were (and still are) discarded, truth perished.

"Having crushed Israel in war, the Roman gentiles destroyed and paganized the Holy Capital, eradicated the last genealogy of the House of David (except that of Yeshua), and replaced the annual Temple tax with a higher tax to maintain their pagan temple of Jupiter (Zeus). It was then (135CE) that the true Body of Messiah was forced aside and the Beast began his expanding effort to "change times and laws". One of his first changes was to replace the One God with his pagan Trinity and to confuse the true nature and final mission of the Messiah. Oh, and of course he couldn't allow the Jewish name of the Messiah to remain; so, he changed that also into the false name "Jesus" - evidence of which exist to suggest is a name which gives honor to the pagan god, Zeus.
Peter was never the Pope of anything. The historical record proves without doubt Peter was never the leader of the "church"."
from torahofmessiah
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"... ... ...to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."

called, saved, chosen --- 'believing' is not it. even the demons believe, and shudder in terror. so should and so would the charismatics if only they knew the truth. those who are given to Yahshua by Yhvh do know the truth, do obey, have obeyed, and will obey until the end. the lawless are lost, and will remain lost. they are not chosen. they did not belong to Yhvh and were not given to Yahshua. And they are lawless - they do not obey Yahshua. They do not obey Yhvh's Living nor Written Word.

note: from torahofmessiah
" Irrefutable! - Does Traditional Christianity actually promote "Following" Christ? - The answer is NO, and I prove such in the article. In fact, I conclusively prove that traditional Christianity actually promotes OPPOSITION to Christ!


Edited by yeshuaslave (10/30/11 02:21 AM)
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"...suffer persecution so
that, perhaps, take part in
resurrection..." Paul's letter

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#113197 - 10/30/11 09:38 AM Re: Called, Saved, Chosen [Re: yeshuaslave]
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Edited by yonah1 (11/01/11 06:34 AM)
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John 17:6

“I have revealed your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word."


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