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#107129 - 06/25/07 01:51 PM To my fellow gardeners..
Sojourners Offline


Registered: 11/11/03
Posts: 1189
Loc: Mansfield, MO
Hi all,

We live in MO, near the town of Mansfield. I have always loved to garden, but have never encountered bugs like I do here!

I am convicted not to use any form of chemical pesticides. I am searching out proven "home" remedies to control bugs ...specifically on potatoes, squash and the cabbage family.

I am trying a mix of dawn original dishsoap, and have tried cayenne pepper by the bottle full, but it doesn't control whatever is still eating my potatoe plants.

Any help any of you have is welcome!

Blessings,
Tamar
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#107130 - 06/25/07 02:06 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Tuck Offline


Registered: 08/19/04
Posts: 101
Loc: Titusville PA. USA
Greetings Sister,

We have had good results with potatoes by planting them on top of tilled soil and then covering them with straw or leaves. We plant them 6” to 8” apart in all directions so that when they come up the leaves touch and form a canopy that holds in the moisture. For some reason, “No Bugs”. As the plants grow, keep adding more mulch or the sun will get through and turn the taters green. Do this early because at some point it gets impossible to add mulch because the leaves grow together at the top.

Worked for us.

Tuck

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#107131 - 06/25/07 02:40 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
The only thing that has worked for us is to pick the bugs off. I know it's a lot of work, but we never use pesticides and we always have a very nice, abundant garden. We also rotate where we plant stuff, never planting (for example) potatoes where we had potatoes the year before.

Also, look for the eggs on the leaves. They are usually on the underside of potato, bean and tomato plants, little clusters of bright yellow or orange eggs so they're easy to find. If you can get the buggies before they even hatch, all the better!

We mulch a lot too.

BTW, is anyone else being hit with drought conditions? We're in WV, and although it's not a drought yet, we have sheep and goats, and boy, so we need rain for the pastures! Keep us in your prayers. I've heard it's even worse in Ohio, north of us.

Nancy B.
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#107132 - 06/26/07 03:33 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
czygyny Offline


Registered: 06/08/07
Posts: 93
Loc: California
Picking off the squash bugs, and using heavy duty trellising for the squash type plants have helped for me, keeping the plants off of the ground makes it easier to spray the undersides of the leaves with insecticidal soap, or just a blast of water.

We also use 'Tanglefoot' spray on yellow plastic dixie cups on stakes throughout the garden, the yellow attracts all sorts of insects.

I try not to use insecticides much at all, but sometimes I cave in and use it if the crop is in danger and it is a long time before harvest. I would much rather see the praying mantis, ladybugs, spiders, assassin bugs, lizards, frogs and other predators doing the job!



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#107133 - 06/27/07 07:32 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
friendofyah Offline


Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 358
Loc: Huntington, WV
Shalom Nancy B,

My name is Donnie, I live in Mansfield, MO. I bought 10 acres close to Sojourners...I moved here from Huntington, WV...I was born and raised there...I was a bit curious as to which part of WV you are from.


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#107134 - 06/27/07 09:10 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
We are near Buckhannon, about 45 minutes from Clarksburg. We moved here from California about 9 years ago. How do you like MO.?

Nancy B.
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#107135 - 06/27/07 09:34 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Sojourners Offline


Registered: 11/11/03
Posts: 1189
Loc: Mansfield, MO
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tuck:
Greetings Sister,

We have had good results with potatoes by planting them on top of tilled soil and then covering them with straw or leaves. We plant them 6” to 8” apart in all directions so that when they come up the leaves touch and form a canopy that holds in the moisture. For some reason, “No Bugs”. As the plants grow, keep adding more mulch or the sun will get through and turn the taters green. Do this early because at some point it gets impossible to add mulch because the leaves grow together at the top.

Worked for us.

Tuck
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Hi Tuck

How deep would you say the tilled soil is? My potatoes themselves are delicious, and though the greens on top look horrid and are being eaten, as soon as the weather clears I'll go and gather them all. Yah's desire we'll have a cellar ready that I can store them in.

I had an idea for those who love gardening. Some time ago I wrote and asked bro Eliyah about a barter board...but this forum seems to work too...
What would any of you feel about a seed exchange? Last year our watermelons and cantelope were just incredible. Our daughter went to a forum and swapped seeds with those interested and we had some awesome new seeds that we are growing this year.
A brother I met on paltalk sent me tomato seeds, and wow they grow awesome! This year we are going to dry as much seed as we can for next year, and thought if we had a bunch extra we sure wouldn't mind helping others..and if others did the same as beleivers we could exchange ...of course remembering we cannot send certain seeds to certain states because of bylaws. But we can study those out so as not to violate those laws too

Thanks to all for your replies, and I'm still searching for that home remedy to get rid of bugs that are NOT needed in the garden. I am putting our turkeys in the garden, and they are having a wonderful time eating bugs and not touching the plants!

Blessings to all,
With gratitude to YHWH for earth and water and sun and seed, it surely is good!!

Tamar
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#107136 - 06/27/07 10:05 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
Tamar - do you have ducks? I heard they do wonders in the garden too.

One thing I did use one year...I made a tea out of tobacco (believe it or not, I had gotten some old pipe tobacco from a dumpster when we were looking for boxes for Ebay) and we sprayed that on some very badly infested plants. Now, I wouldn't spray it on sometihng that grows above the ground, like lettuce...anything I was going to eat directly, but it did work OK for potatoes.

Another idea I read about that can be thought of next year...the idea is to plant a ring around the garden, so to speak, of plants (weeds especially) that the bad bugs like. Some people really "swear" by this, as the bugs are more attracted to the stuff they aren't going to eat (weeds, lure plants, etc) so they leave the plants you're going to consume alone. I know we have this one weed, that the bugs loved MORE than the potato plants...I may not pull those weeds next year, and see if the bugs will be more attracted to them.

Another thing...(boy, all these things are coming back to me!) And this works really well for us, not only in saving the garden, but saving the chickens and eggs...We have different areas, especially at the edges of our living area, that we put scraps, compost, leftovers, etc. Animals that will bother your plants (possums, raccoons especially) will gladly take an easy meal over one they have to dig for, pick, or kill. If you keep a few goodies for the wildlife away from your garden area, they'll leave your garden and chickens alone.

Nancy b.
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#107137 - 06/27/07 10:10 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
I love the idea of a seed exchange. That's a good way to keep heirloom seeds alive! I'm sure you already know, you have to use plants that are heirloom seeds, as most hybrids won't grow the same plant from their seeds...wierd, I know, but it was actually engineered that way to force people to continue buying seeds each year!

One company we love, that doesn't do this, is "Seeds of Change." They sell only organic seeds, and MOSTLY heirloom types whose seeds are true to their parent plant.

I would especially like some heirloom apple, plum, pear, peach, apricot seeds. I know it takes forever to grow trees from seed, but the cost of fruit trees is outrageous!

Nancy B.
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#107138 - 06/28/07 02:29 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Yahs_Lamb Offline


Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 102
Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
If I could send some water to any of you that needs water for your place I would gladly do it.
I live about 90 miles south of Dallas, Tx. and we have had the blessings of the rain for over a week here. I ask Father Yahweh for rain and He doubled it to me. What a blessing. Some people complain about the rain and that its causing flooding all over the Dallas Tx. area, but to me its a wonderful blessing. It washes all the bugs out of the garden, so I have no bug problem at all. Plus the vegies are growing to unbelievable sizes. I have squash coming out of my garden as long as my arm. And very tender too.
I gave some to the lady at the butane place where we fill our tanks, and she told me she's never seen such big squash, and so good to eat.
My tomatoes are as big a saucers,
Now if I could just figure out what's eating my ducks and turkey's I would really be doing good. Raccoons, I know how they kill, but what ever is eating them, is carrying them off and it has to be something big, cause my ducks and turkeys are big. And guess what the dog is doing during all this??? sleeping.
I have told the dog several times,"change is coming"
So now I need a good critter dog. Any ideas ?

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#107139 - 06/28/07 01:06 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
czygyny Offline


Registered: 06/08/07
Posts: 93
Loc: California
Yah's_Lamb,

I have found that cattle dogs (Queenslands, Australian Cattle Dogs, Border Collies, etc) are the most alert and fearless when it comes to keeping animals away.

A raccoon can drag an animal quite aways, but perhaps you have a fox, bobcat or coyote dining on your livestock if they are being carried off a long way.

Thankfully, our property is double fenced so only the occasional raccoon and skunk get in. Skunky just meanders through and doesn't harm much except snagging the occasional hen's egg. The coons haven't been back since their comrade fell to my rottweiler.

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#107140 - 06/28/07 05:09 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Yahs_Lamb Offline


Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 102
Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
This morning I found fresh tracks of 3 slash marks in the wet dirt that was about 2-3 inches long and another duck missing.
Whatever this critter is, came out in the daylight (after 9am) and took the duck away. I have been locking the ducks up at night in wire cages that's impossible for anything to get to them. So now whatever it is, is coming out in the daytime.
And the unbelievable thing about it is, the tracks I found was 20 feet away from where the dog was.
Thanks for the advise on the dogs. I have the new advertisement paper and I am looking to find one of these dogs you mentioned, before I end up with no animals.

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#107141 - 06/28/07 08:13 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
Another dog to think about is a Great Pyrenees. That's what we have, and we have't lost a chicken in a long, long time. The only thing is...they stay up almost all night and patrol...back and forth, and LOTS of barking. So if you have neighbors that may complain, it might not work out.

Also, be careful about knowing the difference between herding dogs and guard dogs. Herding dogs have a very strong instinct to chase things, which actually stems from their very strong instinct to hunt. The thing is, if they are trained properly, they circle the animals, keep them together (as if they were circling to kill) but they have enough training and control not to attack. If they are not trained properly, they will definately attack your animals.

A livestock guard dog, does NOT have that strong hunting instinct, they instead have a very strong instinct to protect their "pack". Their pack may be a human family, a family of sheep, a family of chickens...But whoever their "family" is, they will protect.

We had foxes really bad, and before we got our Pyrenees we lost about a dozen Rhode Island Red hens. If the duck/goose/chicken is completely gone, I'd say there's a good chance it's a fox, as they take their prey home. Wild dogs and mountain lions/bobcats will do the same.

Often, Possums and Raccoons will just bite the head off the animal and eat it, and maybe eat it's innerds ) But you'll find pieces of the animal around.

Nancy B.
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#107142 - 06/28/07 08:15 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
I just wanted to add a thanks for adding this thread! It sure has been interesting! I could talk my head off when it comes to gardening/animals/farming! LOL!

Nancy B.
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#107143 - 06/28/07 08:25 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 06/08/07
Posts: 93
Loc: California
I must agree with Nancy B about the troubles with the herders vs. the breeds like the Great Pyrenees, etc. I have only had the Queenslands and Australian Cattle dogs, but they were trained not to hunt/chase the animals unless prompted by me. They are quite a bit smaller than those big 'shepherd' breeds, which might be a factor for you.

I had chickens disappear out of my barn while the fences were being rebuilt, and many of the bodies just disappeared. The only thing I could imagine getting up in the high rafters were 'coons, but I don't know. I took to leaving a light and a radio on all night to deter whatever was doing the deed, and it worked.

I could talk and talk about gardening and animals forever, too. I have sheep, koi, goldfish, dogs, cats, even had a snow goose for awhile that had been attacked by a bald eagle right over my property! If given my own way, I would spend every minute 'playing' in my gardens!

That is why I liken myself to 'Gardening in Babylon'.
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#107144 - 06/28/07 09:00 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Yahs_Lamb Offline


Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 102
Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
Nancy,
Thanks for the tip about the Pyrenees dogs. In this area these dogs are very common. As far as the barking they do, I live in the middle of nowhere, in the woods, so the barking wouldn't bother no one except the wild critters : )
But what I would like to ask you is do you have to train these dogs to leave your animals alone ? Or are they naturally friendly with them ?
I have a german shepherd and she has never been good to be let loose, because she wants to run and chase all the animals, including the horses. Well the horses have pretty much taught her to stay away from them, and she hasn't ever killed one of the chickens or ducks, but she wants to chase them. For this, she has earned herself to a long chain that she has plenty of room to roam back and forth close by the pens where the ducks, chickens and the fowl are, but not allowed to go in that area.
I also have California rabbits in a pen, and she seems to go nuts when she sees the rabbits. So that's why I am asking you about the Pyrenees dogs.
I am wondering if the next dog I get should be a pup to allow it to get used to the animals and grow up around them.

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#107145 - 06/28/07 10:49 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
I've actually heard (and don't quote me on this, because I don't know for sure) that even the Pyrenees puppies will chase chickens and such, but once they hit about 9 months or so, they stop and begin guarding. So unless you got an adult one, you'd have to keep an eye on it and at least make sure it doesn't chase your animals.

Nikka, our Pyr, we got as an adult. We too don't have any neighbors, and she barks most of the night. I have one of those noise makers in my room (it makes the sound of rain, or the ocean, etc.) and that helps drown her out at night. I guess we've just all gotten used to her. She will NOT leave our farm. She is free to roam anywhere, not chained up or fenced, and I can't even get her to go on a walk with me. She gets to the edge of the yard and no matter how much I try and coax her, she will turn slowly and head back to the barn/shed area. I can't say enough good things about her. She's only about 3 years old, and I had really wanted to breed her at least once so I'd have her offspring to carry on once she's gone, but haven't been able to find an affordable male.

EliYah's family has Pyrenees/Kommador(??sp) mix puppies (both breeds are guard sheep dogs) and I wanted so badly to take a male home, but we just didn't have room in the car. I think KaraYah has pictures of them posted on her blog (you can find her blog on the website.)

Nancy B.
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#107146 - 06/29/07 12:44 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 102
Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
I have been very prayerful about this, and in asking Yahweh for wisdom on what I should do, and I do believe He gave me a answer this evening as it was getting dark, yet still light enough to see clearly.
I was locking the gate to the back area where most all the animals stay and after doing this I stood there looking around thinking to myself why couldn't I see where this creature was coming in from as our place is fenced all around the 5 acres we have. I was looking up in the trees trying to see if maybe there was something in the trees like a raccoon or some other critter, when my attention was drawn to the fence and the medium high grass there. And I saw something I had not seen before there. Above the fence was a old hot wire from the people that used to have goats next to our place. They moved away several months ago and left the wire above the fence. As I looked at it, I noticed in a certain section the wire was pushed down against the fence. In the grass, I noticed a path leading right to where I was standing. It was the same place that I found fresh tracks this morning. As I looked across the fence on the other people's property I saw white feathers in the grass.... My ducks feathers. So now I know whatever it is , its coming over the fence.
I thought about what someone had said on this thread about playing a radio, and this idea came to me. If I buy a motion detector with lights, and put it on a tree, in that area, and take one light out of it and place one of them screw in plugs in it and plug in a radio so when whats ever coming in front of that gate area not only gets a flood light turned on, but the radio begins to playing.
Think that will scare it ? I have another motion detector and I have it set for the lights to stay on for 8 minutes. If I do this (and I will) that critter will get the scare of its life. By the time it calms down and the lights and radio goes off and if its brave enough to come back, it will get the same treatment again.
Also at the same time, if I hear the radio, I will know something has crossed the area of the motion detector and me and the 20 gauge will go outside.
I still will be looking for a dog, but until I find the right one, I feel Yahweh has gave me a solution.

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#107147 - 06/29/07 08:31 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
Oh wow, glad you found the hole in the fence. Great detective work!! Hee hee...

Before we ever had an outside dog, we had a horrible time with foxes. I remember one night the boys sleeping outside in a tent watching for them, and they said probably 4 or 5 came around. We went to the pound the next day and got a dog. He was just a mutt, but he kept the predators away.

I was thinking, if the cost of a guard dog is too much, I have actually trained "regular" dogs to leave the chickens alone. It took some work, and we lost a couple of chickens on the way, but eventually we broke a couple of non-guard dogs of their need to chase chickens. Yah's Lamb, Didn't you say you have an adult dog that stays inside? It might be possible to train it to leave the chickens alone. Or could you even chain it up at the spot in the fence at night?

Nancy B.
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#107148 - 06/29/07 08:54 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
Also, walking your dog around the property line and letting it "relieve" itself will mark the territory and let predators know that there is a meat eating animal there, and will help to scare them off.

Do you have much leftovers at your house? Or kitchen scraps? Try putting that at the hole in the fence. It might be enough to satisfy the wild beasts and they'll leave your livestock alone!

Nancy b.
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#107149 - 06/29/07 01:17 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
friendofyah Offline


Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 358
Loc: Huntington, WV
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nancy B:
We are near Buckhannon, about 45 minutes from Clarksburg. We moved here from California about 9 years ago. How do you like MO.?

Nancy B.
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Shalom Nancy,

I love Missouri! The country is just as beautiful as WV's! The fellowship here is great too...I have some family in the Parkersburg area...was unaware of any "Name/Sabbath Believers" in that area.

Also, I have a Pyrenese mix....he is about 6 or 7 mos old...he has been a great dog so far, yes he get excited with other animals...the chickens he "has fun" with...but does not harm them...one day while letting the chicks free-range, I heard a big squable in the coop, I saw the dog in there and chickens flying everywhere, I first thought the dog got one...but when I got inside the coop I found he had just rounded them up for me and was not letting them out of the coop! He also loves our 2 lil kittens...he pens them down for an intense bath from time to time, but other than that he is very loving toward them...

Other than them being an extremely large dog, they are great dogs...(at 6 mos old he is as big as a full grown dog and has more growing to do)

Have a blessed Sabbath Day
Ariyah

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#107150 - 06/29/07 03:33 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
Nancy B Offline


Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 48
Loc: Buckhannon, WV, USA
Oh Yes, Pyrenees are humongous. Ours looks just like a big polar bear lumbering around the yard. Once in a great while she'll get excited and bound across the grass, but not real fast.

Nancy
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#107151 - 06/29/07 03:41 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 102
Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
No I don't have a inside dog, just a shepherd outside on a long chain that can't be trusted to be loose. I bought her when she was 4 mos. old with the hopes of training her to watch over the animals, but she became part of the problem.
I used to let her loose at night once we put all the animals up in their pens for the night, and all she'd do is chase wild bunny rabbits and once she was tired, she'd go lay down and sleep. I have lost several ducks, and turkey's, while she was loose. She's a year old now and she still hasn't calmed down any. She's AKC registered, and she's a beautiful large bone blk and tan shepherd, but isn't worth a flip to watching over the animals. Even the man that I bought her from at the kennel said, he couldn't understand why she's this way. I paid 300.00 for this dog and I am very disappointed with her. I have had several shepherds in the past, (not here) that was smart as a dog could be and would kill anything that came on my place. But this dog is different.

By the way, it isn't a hole that I found where the critter is coming on to my place, but over the top. So that tells me that whatever it is , is pretty good at leaping. But after we hook up the motion detector today to a light and radio, I think the problem will stop... A good rock station will work.. lol

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#107152 - 07/12/07 06:50 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 11/14/05
Posts: 1307
Loc: Las Vegas Nevada USA
Shalom gardeners

I read this and thought of you guys.LOL!

Just Because It’s Red Doesn’t Mean It’s a Tomato

If you are a home gardener, you may have experienced the heartbreak of having your beautiful crops of tomatoes and other edibles destroyed by birds or other hungry creatures. You are about to learn the most amazing way to make the birds leave your beautiful ripening tomatoes alone. I tell you this first tip made me laugh out loud and sent me scrambling for my Christmas decorations!

TRICK THE BIRDS. Just before your tomato plants start to grow tomatoes, hang red round Christmas bulbs on your plant. The birds will think the bulbs are tomatoes, peck at them, and become unhappy. They will then leave the plant alone. I have used this trick for several years and it works. Sandee B., California


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#107153 - 10/08/07 01:10 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 07/16/07
Posts: 34
Loc: Caruthersville, MO 63830 USA
What is the best way to dry pepper pods? I remember when my grandmother would string them on a long thread and hang them up to dry. I've heard of laying them in the sun to dry. I would like to learn what and what not to do.

Yah's blessings,
Tommy Lee

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#107154 - 10/10/07 08:45 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
adelore Offline


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 309
Loc: MI
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by exodus:
What is the best way to dry pepper pods? I remember when my grandmother would string them on a long thread and hang them up to dry. I've heard of laying them in the sun to dry. I would like to learn what and what not to do.

Yah's blessings,
Tommy Lee

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The best way to dry pepper pods?

Yes hang them up on a string. I use to hang mine up in our Sun Room. Or even anywhere in the house. You can lay them out in the sun to dry; however if you don't keep watch on them and turn them one side of them might mold, because of part of it touching a surface.

I use to hang mine up on a string; or when the plant is done for the season just pull the whole plant up and hang it upside down by the roots. They will dry naturally.

Once dried, completely, then you can place them in the blender and chop them up as small (or what ever size you want) and then place them in zip locks or another type of container.


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#107155 - 10/10/07 09:06 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 309
Loc: MI
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Yahs_Lamb:
This morning I found fresh tracks of 3 slash marks in the wet dirt that was about 2-3 inches long and another duck missing.
Whatever this critter is, came out in the daylight (after 9am) and took the duck away. I have been locking the ducks up at night in wire cages that's impossible for anything to get to them. So now whatever it is, is coming out in the daytime.
And the unbelievable thing about it is, the tracks I found was 20 feet away from where the dog was.
Thanks for the advise on the dogs. I have the new advertisement paper and I am looking to find one of these dogs you mentioned, before I end up with no animals.
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3 Slash Marks in the wet dirt? I'm racking my mind trying to think what this could be.

Ok most racoons, bobcats, and coyote's are night time animals; although if they are in great need for food, will venture out at other times.

In any case to keep Racoons, bobcats, and such at bay, this is a True and Tried thing that will work.

Household BLEACH or AMONIA. WARNING: Don't use both and DON'T mix them. It's a chemical reaction that the fumes can/could kill you. Only use one of them at a time.

You pour it on top of your trash can and around the dirt. (this keeps animals out of the Trash.) Anywhere you don't want them to be. If you do this once a week on the ground, it will keep them away. The smell stays in the ground even when it rains, and they flee from it fast.

Dial Soap Bars Haning on Trees, and fences will keep them at bay. It also will keep deer, rabbits and such out of your fruit trees and gardens.

Marigolds planted around a garden will keep "some" bugs at bay, while the "good" bugs and bees don't mind them. I know several gardens here in Michigan have Marigolds planted around them every year. Marigolds will also keep Rabbits from eating your Veggies. They don't like the smell.

Well I hope this helps.


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#107156 - 10/11/07 07:26 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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I asked my husband about the Tracks last night. He said they sound like Oppossum. They will attack and eat Chickens.

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#107157 - 10/11/07 11:07 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 05/23/07
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Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
Shalom Annette,
Thanks for all the great tips. The bleach and ammonia ideas is a really good idea.
And I also liked the dial soap ideas.
I have found since posting about all these critter problems, 2 Pyrenees doggies. They are great! They was free to me and I enjoy having them around. At night they do their duties and are constantly running and barking at critters. Since I have got them, I haven't lost one animal.
They also let me know when one of my lambs or horses have got out of their penned in areas. I am learning the differences in their barking at what they are alerting me of.
Now there also a drawback on these 2 dogs I have. They have a chewing habit. They will steal anything off my front porch that isn't nailed down and chew it up. Any paper they get a hold of they shread all over the yard. I have gave up on trying to have a door mat outside my front door, because they take it and I find it all over the lawn the next morning. I even tried nailing it down, and they still tore it off during the night.
So I think the bleach and ammonia ideas will work for more then just critters. (at least its worth a try)
But I won't complain to much about the dogs, cause they are doing a good job at protecting my place from the wild critters. And they are good pets also. Very loving.

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#107158 - 10/16/07 12:58 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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You're Welcome for the tips.

Now about the Dogs. A sure proof way to keep them from stealing your rug and chewing anything in site, is to provide them with "Chew Toys" and "Other Types of Toys".

Now many people make the mistake of only giving their dogs one or two "chew toys" thinking this will keep the dog happy. WRONG! For many years, I had on the average of 6 Collies all at once, (more if I really stop to count) Never did I have anything chewed up. Not once.

The ticket is to give your dogs several, (SEVERAL) Different Dog Raw Hides. I did mention SEVERAL right? A ball or two to play with, (hence the rug they tore up and most likely tossed around) a Ball even different types of balls is very helpful. The twisted or braded ropes you see for dogs. Oh what a treat that is to play tug-of-war with the other Dog or even a person with. Another good thing to have a couple of laying around.

Dog's love to play and CHEW! Dog's are great at keeping us safe and keeping unwanted critters away from our homes and our other animals. As you've already found out they give us warning, when one of our other animals is out and shouldn't be.

Dog's can Chew and Play around and yet at the same time still be aware of what's going on around them in their area. It's nothing to see two dogs playing having a good time and then stop in a moment and take off to something that has alerted them out of the norm.

Even outside Dogs need Chew Bones and Toys to keep them busy. If you have a outside Dog house, it's a good idea to give your dogs an old blanket in their dog house. This way they know it's theirs. If they tear it up, well that's ok they know it's theirs.

Now keep in mind it's a good idea to give your dogs a new Raw hide Chew bone, one for each dog. (depending on how fast they chew them up) at least once a week, maybe more while they are younger. Don't wait until you don't see any chew bones laying around, or they'll go back to chewing things you don't want them to. If they are younger dogs, (males up to 3 years old really love to chew) Females slow down at around 2, but all dogs love to chew their whole life.

Yes the bleech (not amonia) will keep the dogs away from unwanted area's. Such as your plants. It will keep them from digging by them. But becareful not to get too close to the plant or the roots or you'll burn up and kill the plant.

The main thing all these types of toys do is keep your dogs from being bored. A bored dog will look for things to play with and to chew. Again Several Raw Hide Bones will keep your dogs entertained. Different flavored ones, not all the same.

Hope this helps.

May Yahweh Bless

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#107159 - 10/17/07 11:28 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Thanks for the chew tips. I guess I'll go visit the store tomorrow and load up with a bunch of these toys.
These dogs are so playful. They run in the back pasture and play. I like watching them play. Now my 2 kitties are getting in with them playing. Its really funny to watch all 4 of them play together.
You are 100% correct about going from playing to keeping a watchful eye. I have seen them do this several times. They see something in the woods, and off they take barking, and jump the fence into the woods.Then return back to playing when they have went after whatever critter they saw.
Have you ever heard of adding garlic to their food to repel flees ? Someone told me about this, and I have been wondering about it, if I should or shouldn't add real garlic or garlic powder to their food.
They had a bad flee problem when I first got them, but I've pretty much got it under control now.
Once again, thanks for all the good tips.

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#107160 - 10/18/07 06:30 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Loc: MI
Shalom,

Yes, buy Garlic Pills (Make sure you DON'T get the Ordorless, it has to be just plan Garlic Pills, the Ordorless won't do any good) buy and give them One Pill a day, you can do this by opening their mouth and placing it in the far back of their tounge and then holding their mouth shut and rubing their throat, this will make them swallow it.

The easiest way though is to put the Pill in a small piece of bread, squeeze the tightly around the pill and give it to them as a treat. Anyway they will think it's a treat.

Since most Dogs will turn their nose up at Garlic on their Food, I wouldn't put any Garlic on their food. Besides that you need a steady amount for it to work.

Garlic will keep flea's, tic's, misquotes, most fly's, fruit fly's ect. off of the dogs. Back when I was showing and breeding dogs, I gave all my dogs each day a Garlic Pill. You can find them at Wal-mart or even Walgreens. They are cheap.

As far as your kitten's I don't know why you couldn't give it to them also, this will keep them from getting fleas as well.

Glad I could help with the other ideas. Sound's like you're really enjoying your dogs.

May Yahweh Bless,



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#107161 - 10/18/07 06:47 AM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Shalom,

Guess I'll try this again. I posted but somehow it got lost in Cyber Space.

Yes buy Garlic Pills, (DON'T get the Odorless, they WON'T work) and give them to your dogs once a day. You can place the pill in a small piece of bread and sqeeze the bread around it, this way you are sure they are getting the pill. Or you can open their mouth and place the pill on the back of their tounge, then hold their mouth shut, and rub their throat, causing them to swallow the pill.

Garlic Pills, will keep off Flea's, tic's, misquote's, fly's and fruit fly's. You must give them a pill once a day, every day for this to work. It will take a few days, to a week, (once they build up enough Garlic in their system) for this to work. Give it to them Year round.

Wal-mart, Wal-greens, just about any store has them and they are Cheap.

Back when I use to show and breed my Collies and Shelties, they all got their Garlic Pills Daily. Another Breeder had told me about this, when I asked my Vet, he said by all means do it, it does work. It's all natural and won't hurt the dogs. (It may cause a little bad breath though on the dogs.)

It sounds like your dogs and kittens are having a great time together. You seem to be enjoying your new dogs, they are fun aren't they.

Currently we have a Poodle and a Min Pin, that travel on our Truck with us.



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#107162 - 10/18/07 09:00 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 05/23/07
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Loc: Groesbeck, TX. USA
Annette,
Yes I enjoy all my animals. One of my dogs, named Susie, smiles at me all the time now. LOL. When I call them to come get a treat such as a rib bone, one will come on the porch and gently take the bone and she's gone. Susie, comes up the steps wagging her tail and smiles at me before taking her bone. I laugh and tell her she's a good girl. So now everytime she comes up to me, she smiles. I guess she knows I'm going to pat her and tell her she's a good girl.
My horses are also like giant dogs. I used to let them run loose on the place to graze grass, but they started kicking the dogs to eat their food, and then broke the mirrors on the truck by leaning and rubbing against them, so they had to be penned in the back woods area. When they started costing us unnessary money, it was time for a change.

I wanted to ask you Annette, have you and your husband ever been in the Houston TX. area?
I used to be a manager in one of the TA's in Baytown, TX. a few years ago.
I was just wondering if you have ever been in that direction and if by chance we may have passed each other back then ?

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#107163 - 10/21/07 01:13 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Loc: tulsa
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sojourners:

Hi all,

We live in MO, near the town of Mansfield. I have always loved to garden, but have never encountered bugs like I do here!

I am convicted not to use any form of chemical pesticides. I am searching out proven "home" remedies to control bugs ...specifically on potatoes, squash and the cabbage family.

I am trying a mix of dawn original dishsoap, and have tried cayenne pepper by the bottle full, but it doesn't control whatever is still eating my potatoe plants.

Any help any of you have is welcome!

Blessings,
Tamar

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check out organic gardening magazine... they have had a very effective natural bug eliminator method for over 50 years....

warning if you use bleach, chlorine or ammonia - any and all of those hurt you and your children, even the little bit in the tap water causes serious trouble.
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#107164 - 10/21/07 11:46 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Posts: 309
Loc: MI
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Yahs_Lamb:
Annette,

I wanted to ask you Annette, have you and your husband ever been in the Houston TX. area?
I used to be a manager in one of the TA's in Baytown, TX. a few years ago.
I was just wondering if you have ever been in that direction and if by chance we may have passed each other back then ?
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Have we ever been in the Houston, Tx area? Yes, more than once. Infact my hubby just returned last thursday from Houston. (shhh...don't tell but he stayed at the Flying J ) Most of the time we "team drive" but there are times, we each go solo and leave the other one at home. Since I fish and he hunts, we can give each other a week paid vacation to enjoy the fishing and hunting. But yes, I've been to the Baytown, TA.

I've been to the Valley, (McAllen, Pharr ect.) several times in Tx. Our oldest daughter, son in law, and children live there...So the trips to Houston, end up in the Valley to bring Produce back to MI. Not to mention it's a great way to see the kids!

Take Care and May Yahweh Bless,


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#107165 - 10/22/07 12:55 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 78
Loc: NE Indiana
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nancy B:
Also, walking your dog around the property line and letting it "relieve" itself will mark the territory and let predators know that there is a meat eating animal there, and will help to scare them off.

Do you have much leftovers at your house? Or kitchen scraps? Try putting that at the hole in the fence. It might be enough to satisfy the wild beasts and they'll leave your livestock alone!

Nancy b.
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Nothing like finally getting around to reading these. O.O

We live in town and there are the "town cats" the make themselves at home in any yard. But, they won't come in our yard because of the 'dog smell' planted at strategic locations by the male dog. I can imagine what you're saying is totally true!!

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#107166 - 10/22/07 08:18 PM Re: To my fellow gardeners..
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Thanks Yeshuaslave, I went to their website and bookmarked it for next year.
Thankfully, praise YHWH we had a great crop of potatoes even though the green were eaten!

blessings,
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