The way of Yahweh is a pecular way. Unfortunately many of us live in a place where we have few or no role models of how Yahushua would have us to live. My husband and I have had these struggles and have been given much wisdom by Yahweh. We struggle with the lack of people around us who want to read Yahweh's word much less walk as He would have us to. But alas, Yahweh has called us to be a wine skin and we really want to share His truths. I personally have had several women from the chat room come to me about the way of Yahweh for women and it is a very different road than most of us have been taught to walk. I just wanted to post and say that I am just learning and I am far from being perfect, but I would be willing to share my experiences in growing to walk on this path and I would be willing to be accountable with any that have a desire. As I stated, I am far from perfect, but I will do my best to be faithful.
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

Shalom, Tahar

I can certainly empathize with you, as I am going thru the same thing you went thru. The chat room is a very nice place to chat and learn from others of similar beliefs. I, too, am learning the ways of Yahweh, and so just wanted to share with you that you are not alone.

Mazel Tov to you! (and ME as well! LOL)

Hello Tahar, I really need accountability too. I am discouraged due to my Moms attitude towards my choices. I am haveing a hard time getting it together in time for Sabbath on preparation day as well as being the submissive wife as the Word requires of us. Pray for me. I am changeing from Shashua to Chanita. Talk to you soon. Chanita

Shalom sisters!

Here are some great studies!

http://www.eliyah.com/family/mothers.html
http://www.eliyah.com/family/wives.html

In my journeys with YHWH as HIS handmaiden...HE has deeply impressed this passage on my heart...may you too be encouraged!

1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of Elohim of great price.

I asked YHWH to reveal to me deep inside of me...what this ornament of a meek and quiet spirit really is...
and then, with joy when HE showed me,
the words..

is in the sight of Elohim of great price...

made perfect sense!


May YHWH bless you richly as you fulfil the desires HE placed upon your hearts!

With much love in Yahushua,
Tamar

I would reccomend you go to this site and read the article entitled:

"Family Order," http://www.yahuahreigns.com/family.html

it is a well written and thought provoking tretise on the roles in a Torah observant household.

Shalom,

angeL

Hi all, this is late coming, but I really need some fellowship with other women trying to follow Yahweh in all ways. I hope this thread can be revived and maybe we can all develop friendships and help each other walk as we should.

Just an introduction - My name is Nancy, I am in the chat room usually on Shabbat, don't get a lot of time to go there other times though I wish I could. I have 4 "bio" children, 4 adopted, and 1 foster son as this time. 3 of my kids are grown and moved out, so I have 6 at home right now. We homeschool (have been for about 15 years or so) and we live in West Virginia on a 40 acre farm. We raise sheep and goats, and I make things with the wool and sell them on Ebay and Etsy.

Looking forward to speaking with more of you!

Nancy

Shalom Nancy,
I agree whole-heartedly with your post. I think my original post was mis-understood as I was trying to reach out to those who are struggling with this lifestyle and maybe had questions. I hope to have fellowship with more women also. Maybe you and I nancy could at least e-mail one another once a week or give each other a call. Anyway, Yahweh be glorified and magnified!
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

Tahar - what does Tahar-bat-Levi mean?

Do you do a devotional each day? I try and at least pray, but I have gotten behind in the daily Torah Study that Chuck does for the kids. Still, I'm trying to catch up!

Nancy

Shalom Nancy,
Tahar means "clean or cleansed" and bat-Levi means daughter of Levi. That is because Yochanan has traced his family line to the tribe of Levi. I understand about the devotional thing. I pray every day, but I get behind on studies often. I am somewhat a person that needs structure. It is hard for me to just open up with out a lesson polan or guide, but Yahweh is helping me. Look forward to chatting with you again sson! Yahweh bless!
Shalom

I get so behind on preparation day. Does anyone else feel like there are just not enough hours in the day or days in the week?

I think I need to work on maybe doing a little each day instead of saving it all for preparation day. I get so bummed when dinner's not quite done and the sun is slowly sinking away *sigh* How do you ladies do it all?

It seems like friday morning, we usually run to the store for last minute stuff, and this really cuts into the day. I think if I start going later thursday night, and make sure I get everything I need, things will go more smoothly.

Another thing...we end up with a huge mess after dinner. I know we are supposed to not do work, but it is more deppressing and stressful for me to have all that mess sitting around for 24 hours. It seems also that although we've stressed everyone picking up their own messes, everyone leaves messes more because it's the Sabbath, and I end up with much more work. Sorry, don't mean to complain. But honestly, lately, Sabbath is anything but rest for me. Does this happen at any of your homes?

Any ideas of how to make things run more smoothly would be greatly appreciated!

Nancy B.

shalom Nancy,

my mother and I usually try to get laundry, cleaning floors, bathroom, shopping etc done on Thursday, so we only prepare the food on Friday. This way we can enjoy watch the sun setting on Friday with the colourful sky and birds flying and flitting from tree to tree. Then we go inside and eat our shabbat dinner with peace.

We have an unused dishwasher - we just rinse our plates and put them in there. Come 1st day, we take them out and wash 'em.

I've read that some Jews use paper plates on shabbats, this way everyone gets to rest.

Hope the info is useful.



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Shalom dear achoti Nancy,
Yes, I understand what you are talking about. I often times work on Friday and Thursday night so it can be a real challenge. Usually we get something simple and not very mussy for erev shabbat and shabbat to eat. We do either sandwiches, fruit salad, or both. Also, we recently had some people from the chat room come to meet us on their way to Tenn. We bought styrofoam plates and plastic cups in preperation for their visit. This is now what we use on shabbat. There are many reasons for this, but the main one is so that we can enjoy Yahweh and His people. Try to make the meal on shabbat about enjoying one another and ehjoying Yahweh. PBandJ can be tov and not much to clean up. Anyhow, hope this helps. Also, our weekly chore day is 1st day so we usually don't have that to deal with. Shalom to your home and Yahweh bless!
Tahar

We've begun making 1st day (snday) our big clean up day too. Although Shabbat is from sundown to sundown, we try to not do much on 7th day night either. I feel that if you prepare all day fri, then do a big clean up sat., you really don't get much of a rest! So we wait till 1st day morning and do a whole house clean up, as well as outside work.

I recently got the book, "Fix it and Forget it" which is all crock pot recipies, I think I'll start using those for preparation day...by the evening I would think we could turn it off and just dip out our dinner, no worries!

Nancy

Sounds like a very tov idea. Hope you enjoy that book. May Yahweh continue to bless you as you strive to enter into His rest and obey His Torah 8-D Shalom to your home.
In His love,
Tahar

hope it goes well, Nancy

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Blessed be the Name of YHWH

I am new here, and thought I'd add my voice to this thread.

I find it a real struggle to be prepared for Sabbath and to keep myself from doing the many things I do during the week (cleaning, working in the garden, stopping by the market, etc) since I am truly a 'Martha' type, with many responsibilities and interests.

All I know is, that my walk towards Him is a slow work in progress, and I can't do it without prayer and relying on YHWH's strength. My life situation seems to frequently bring my spirit to a grinding stop, necessitating my full reliance on His Spirit. (But I guess that is what He wants, eh?)

My biggest amazement is how the 'spirit of antichrist' has turned our lifestyle upside down by reconstructing our calendar, taking us from a lunar-structured to a sun-structured process, giving us a sun-up to sun-up reckoning of a 'day', and pretty much mucking up everything as Elohim had orignially set up, and giving it the legitimacy of 'it-being-so' for millennia. It is quite a process to tear all that down in our minds, hearts and lives, and rebuild the model in His pattern!

BTW, my name 'czygyny' is taken from a Polish/Hungarian word csigany, meaning gypsy, wanderer or in otherwords--'sojourner', which those of us who keep faith in YHWH (and His Son Yahshua) are to be considered in this world, sojourning in a world that is not ours, for our estate is not yet obtained. The name had its beginning in a story I wrote years ago (and was actually a space-ship, no less ;-) ) and I made it my own moniker when I became more seriously embarked on this journey on the narrow path Home.

I have been without an internet fellowship since the site I was involved with decided to consider extra-biblical writings to be on par with the Word given to us in the Bible, and they denied the validity of the Torah in our lives in this age, and I am weary of holding the Light up in the 'conspiracy' forums. Enough time has been spent watching what the 'enemy' is up to, now I need to focus on what my Father is doing.

I hope to make friends here and to be a part of this fellowship. To help and be helped. There are entirely too few of us!

shabbat shalom, czygyny,

glad to meet you and welcome to EliYah's discussion forum!

they have online shabbat meetings, maybe meet you there?

Susan

Welcome to the Forum!

I hope to see you around here on the forum. I'm a hit and miss as my husband and I are over the road truck drivers.

I understand your strugle very much!

May Yahweh Bless You.

czygyny - I'm sorry I didn't write sooner, I forgot my password and didn't know it was so easy to get it! Your post was so honest, it made me feel better to know others struggle too.

You are so right,...as truth is revealed it's almost shocking to the system to realize how far gone everything in this world is, how mixed up and far from the way YHWH intended it to be! I can *almost* see why some people just stick with the status quo, as it's so hard to change and do what's right. It's much easier to say, "Well, this is the way we've always done things, I'm too old to change" and just leave it at that.

I don't struggle much with going places on the Sabbath, but getting everything done before it, and maintaining at least some sort of order is very hard for me. I often wonder what other families DO continue, and what they just quit doing for the day altogether. For example, we have a big family, so after just one meal the clean up is huge. If I were not to do dishes or clean up after meals, then by the end of Sabbath the amount of work I'd have to do would be overwhelming. We do have a dishwasher, so we try and have it completely empty by sundown, so we can put everything in there as we're done with it, but even so, it's usually filled after our Sabbath dinner. I've heard some people talk of using paper plates, cups, etc, but the expense of it plus, I don't know, we just enjoy that meal being the nicest of the week, so it's a big deal to bring out the silver and the best plates we have (though those aren't all that nice!)

Anyhow, I'd love to hear how other women and their families "do" the Sabbath each week. Do you have a format for the meal, service, etc? Do you sing songs? What songs? That's something we want to start doing.

Nancy

Thank you for letting me know that I'm not the only wife out there that struggles. My mom wasn't a very good role model, so when I got married...who was I to look to? I knew that my mom wasn't a good role model, but I didn't know who else to look to for an example.
Reading what Eliyah posted about wives brought tears to my eyes. Scripture tells me how to act, and I am so happy to oblige to Yahuah's word now that I know and realize how I should act. :-) HalleluYAH!

Another good source of reading material would be Created to Be his Help Meet By Debi Pearl.
A very good book...very much recommended.
You can find it at:
www.nogreaterjoy.org
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~Sarai

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Shalom Nancy,

Once I found out the truth about Sabbath from sunset to sunset, it really opened up a whole new world to me. Since I'm the only one in my family who cares about it and studies the Word of Yahweh it made things "hard" for me to work around.

My husband and I are over the road Truck Drivers, I work 12 hours during the Day and he works 12 hours during the "night shift". When home we keep to our routine, (sleeping patteren) So since I work days and he works nights so to speak and our Son works seconds, meals around here are a big problem.

I then came up with a plan to make a large Turkey, pot of chillie, chicken, roast, anything that could be used as a left over type meal. This way with the three of us eating/sleeping different times around the clock during the Sabbath I wouldn't have to cook and since I too have a dish washer (even though I'm the only one who knows how to fill/empty it...lol) I just let the dishes pile up in the sink and walk away. (Yes the dishes piling up use to really bother me, but not anymore.)

The other thing my husband and son came up with is paper plates. I buy them at Wal-mart or the dollar store, this alone really saves on the dishes pileing up in the sink. Since I've made the meal ahead of time there are no pans to worry about.

I then study the word of Yahweh on the Sabbath. It really frees me up, now that I've accepted to let the dishes pile up and follow Yahwehs Word. Although I will admit a little water in the sink for the dishs to pile up in neatly really makes a difference when the sun goes down on the Sabbath and I then load the dish washer, as the food hasn't dried on them. I even find if both sides of the sink fill up, once again soaking in water, so be it.

I understand what you mean about using the good dishes, but if you can use paper plates and it makes less work for you afterwards and it frees your mind from the worry of the dishes that are piling up on you, then by all means go for the paper plates. At first it's hard I know, but oh what a relief it is! Remember it's not that Plate or silverware that makes the Sabbath meal so special. On the rare occasions that I do get to sit and have a Sabbath meal with my husband and son, it's such a blessing that paper towels could be used and I'd be thrilled.

I have found it's GREAT to at last have a day of rest...no laundry, no cooking, no dishes, nothing but studing the word of Yahweh or spending time with my family.

Since this is all still so new to me and I'm still learning many new things, at least with tons of prayer from everyone here on this forum and myself, Yahweh has softened my husbands heart to where he no longer gives me any problems with/or about it. The Sabbath and my studing so much.

May Yahweh Bless you.

Shalom ladies,
So glad to see the interaction and to see that we are all striving to enter His rest as His word says. I too didn't have any role models of YHWH fearing women growing up. I am so blessed that YHWH has such great mercy and grace on us. I praise Him for my husband who is so patient with my short comings. May we continue to share our struggles with one another and pray for one another. May YHWH be praised and glorified in all of our lives and may we we women be His hand maidens. Shalom to your homes and YHWH bless!!!
In the love and shalom of Yahushua

I have no example, either, and I am leery of the 'traditions' of orthodox sabbath keeping, but try to come at it fresh and scripturally sound. Doesn't mean it is perfect yet! No one in my family believes, so my trying to change our usual routine has been difficult.

I have no spouse, nor children of my own, but my brother's twins come and stay with me on the weekends (they are next door at my mother's during the week) and my 'adopted' oldest son, who was orphaned at 16 and ended up with me. (I have the tendency to attract all lost souls, both animal and human) so they have had to struggle with the concept of no television Friday evening, no shopping, and my not being there half of Saturday while I am attending services.

It is also hard for me not to keep 'busy' like I said before. I always manage to sneak pulling a weed or two while walking through my gardens. (oops)

They're coming around, but my Sabbaths are far from being perfectly kept, as of yet. But, as is practically my motto: 'I am a work in progress'. I am walking toward perfection.

Paper plates work great, and purchased in bulk, make an economical alternative to a sink and counter full of dishes. I have no dishwasher, so being able to discard most of the dishes appeals to me.

I long for the day when it will be easy to keep a perfect Sabbath, but it is an uphill struggle for now. Our Elohim appreciates the effort we make if we do it with a pure heart and honest attempt to improve.

We are bucking 2,000 years of tradition and habit, after all.

Adelore,
QUOTE:
at least with tons of prayer from everyone here on this forum and myself, Yahweh has softened my husbands heart to where he no longer gives me any problems with/or about it.

Praise Yahweh! I didn't know things were getting better and easier for you, how wonderful!

Shalom Ladies,

I have a couple of questions.

1. What does someone do when they are the only one in their family that studies the word of Yahweh? (I have no other fellowship near where I live. Which makes fellowship with anyone pretty much out of the question. The closest thing we have to us is a Seventh Day Advent Church. All other Churchs are on Sunday around here.)

2. So does this mean I should stay home forever, not fellowshiping at all with anyone? What does someone like me do?

3. I've read on different sites where many gather together for "The Feast". They travel many hours and some even from different states. There's no way I can do this (although I wish there were.) My husband and I are over the road Truck Drivers and I'm lucky to even make it home at the start of the Sabbath.

If you have any ideas or thoughts, please post them.

May Yahweh Bless you,

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Shalom achoti Adelore,
We understand the predicament of not having people to fellowship with. My husband is handicapped and there are no believers close to us. We have been fellowshipping on EliYah's chat room for about four years. We are under the screen names of Y_and_T (Yochanan) and Y_and_T_2 (Tahar). Yahweh has blessed our fellowship and we have met many people from other places through this chat room. We met Nancy b's husband, we met another brother from Texas, we met a couple that live about 1 3/4 hours from us, we met a family that used to live about 3 hours from us but have now moved to the south, and we recently met a couple that live about 50 minutes from us, although we do have some major doctrinal differences. If you have a computer, my suggestion would be to join the chat room on erev shabbat and shabbat. On shabbat, there is a live broadcast (audio) and at the end you are able to call in. It is not people physically in your home, but it is pretty close as there are several people that are in the same boat. Hope this helps you and I pray for Yahweh's blessings on you and your husband!! Shalom to your home.
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

I want to second the praises for the live broadcasts on Shabbat morning, it has been such a blessing. Without it, I know we never would have come as far as we have, nor would I probably be converted. My husband actually has the chatroom screen put up so all the kids can watch the chat during the audio, and we have the audio blaring :o) so we can hear it all over the house. We have no believers in our area either (though we're working on some!! LOL) but the online meetings have really filled a void. And for us, having "church" at home has simplified our lives like you wouldn't believe...we have 6 kids at home, and I used to be the only one that would take them to Church, talk about stressful!

I also wanted to clarify, that when people talk about going far and near for the feasts, they are not talking about the weekly shabbat meeting. THat WOULD be impossible for us too, and we are not truck drivers!

What they are mentioning is usually the big feasts, either Passover or the Feast of Tabernacles, in Sept/Oct of the year. This year, they are having the feast of Tabernacles at a big campground in Missouri so there will be plenty of room for everyone! Maybe choosing one big feast a year to get together with other believers would be possible. I know as soon as we found out about it we have begun a budget to try and put money away for the trip. And the cost to camp there is VERY minimal! Maybe with enough time to plan, it is something you could do Adelore! Would't it be wonderful to meet up with other believers to just sit and talk face to face with!!

Nancy B.

Wanted to add, we just got back (an hour ago or so) from visiting EliYah and his wife and children, and getting our whole family baptized! It was wonderful...very cold, but exhilerating! I've already been to bed, but I'm so full of blessings and happiness from the trip, I can't sleep!

They are such down to earth, humble, sweet people, we love them dearly! Being new believers, we went there trying to be on our best behavior, nervous that we would make a bad impression or something. But they put us at such ease, we soon felt very much at home. And Oh MY!! They are definately not revealing enough of their talents (especially musical) at the audio meetings...their guitar playing and singing lifted our spirits so much. We need some CD's of their praise music around this house!! One of our sons is dying to get his hands on my other son's guitar, so he can practice already. Our foster son (slightly autistic, developmentally delayed) kept saying after each song, 'One more time" or "Anoder one!"

I can't even sleep I'm so charged with the desire to learn more and praise Yahweh!

Nancy B.

Nancy,

What a wonderful time it sounds like you had. I praise Yahweh that you got to share the many blessings with them. How wonderful that your family was all baptized!

I would love to attend one of the Feast this year. Yet I highly doubt I can/could talk my husband into it right now. Since he's not a follower of Yahsuhua and Praise Yahweh, my hubbys heart has "softened" where my studies are concerned; but one day I know without a doubt that Yahweh will provide a way for me to attend.

Sometimes when my cousin stops by for coffee I'm sitting at the Computer and I have papers on the table,(I'm printing and folding some of the pamplets on this web site to place in Truck Stops ect.) My cousin will tease me and ask me if I'm going to turn the pole barn into a church. He's done this more than once, trying to make fun of me. Of course he does this in front of my hubby. The first time I really wondered if this wouldn't turn my hubby against my study again.

So my reply was, "Nope I don't plan on turning the pole barn into a church." Of course he made a few more downing (really not very nice at all) comments to me about Yahwehs Word, in front of my husband and I knew I had to say something to stop it as I wasn't about to let Satan try to take away my freedom of my study.

Then I said, "Well, I could be doing a whole lot worse things. I could be like T. (his soon to be x-wifes name) out bar hoping, sleeping around and wrecking my family by leaving my husband for another man. Maybe if she would have been studying Yahwehs Word this wouldn't be happening."

"Since I'm sitting here quietly and not out Bible Thumping or Preaching to anyone here and I'm not trying to change my husband or bothering anyone and my husband knows I'm doing this and he doesn't mind. I guess I'm better off being into this than those other things that T. is into."

My husband smiled at this and my cousin got quiet for a moment and then my cousin said, "You know, you're right."

Since then when my cousin stops by he's Very supportive about my study and never knocks what I'm doing. He's even read a few of the tracts that I've printed out. That happen to be laying on the table.

He now has a Jehovah Witness that drops by their Magz to him. Since he doesn't read them and knows I'm into studying the word of Yahweh he brings them to me, (He doesn't understand yet all that I'm studying, but his thought/intentions are good as he thinks I can use them) so I use them as a "topic starter" about Yahweh the Sabbath and so on. He's very receptive to it!

Just thought I'd share this.

May Yahweh Bless.

Adelore! Oh my! I am so happy for you! This is wonderful! You are doing an excellent thing for YHWH. I bet your husband may get involved when the time is right for YHWH to touch his heart! And wow.. you really handled yourself so well with your cousin! A lot of people wouldn't have had the courage. They just would have been embarrassed. I am so glad to have read this today! YHWH is really doing great things in your life!

I will pray for you and your family. And I hope that YHWH continues to bless your life! Reading this today sure blessed me!

In Messiah,
Missy

Shalom Missy,

I thank Yahweh everyday for touching my hubbys heart the way He has. It has made a world of difference for me.

I must also admit that one of the others postings to me in my other topic about prayer request, was something on the order of maybe Yahweh was having me go through all the tuff times with my husband in order for me to take a Good Look at myself. Of course the human side of me didn't like what they said at first, but then I really thought about it and AGREED that maybe Yahweh was using my husbands words/actions to make me take a good look at ME. I did some really good looking at myself and knew without a doubt I NEEDED to change things about myself too....and that if I changed things about myself that just maybe my husband would notice. With Yahwehs help I did a lot of changing, of course not all of it was easy, (not in the least at first...lol.) and sure enough hubby started to notice and RESPOND.

I Praise Yahweh for it ALL! I have no doubt that we'll still have moments as we are human. I do see such a change in my hubby and MYSELF!

I felt bad for saying what I did to my cousin, as I didn't really want to throw up his wife leaving him or anything as I know he's still going through heartach about it; Yet I had had enough of the many times of his making fun of me and here I was trying to be humble and just take it. (Trying to change myself) But then just that one day for some reason I seen it was Satan using my cousin to try and put doubt in my hubby about my study's and I just wasn't going to allow that to happen. (I had gained too much ground with my hubby of not having to hide or never mention anything about Yahweh in our home. Now don't get me wrong I wasn't trying to preach to my hubby or force him to change, I just wanted to be able to read the Word of Yahweh while they watched T.V. and I just wanted to be on the computer doing my studys without any hassle. I could see it all going down the tubes if I let my Cousin continue with the way things were going.)

I still feel bad for causing him pain; but yet somehow it seems to have opened his (my cousins and maybe my hubbys too) eyes that I'm not ashamed to stand up for Yahweh or rather the fact that I'm Proud (bad choice of words, but I don't know what other word to use) that I study and it DOES mean the world to me.

Thank you for the Prayers, I know Yahweh will guide us and things will happen in His time.

May Yahweh Bless.

Adelore,

I am gladdened to hear of the headway you are making in your situation, whenever we can see our Abba working in our lives it is an encouragement to those of us who have similar situations to endure.

Don't beat yourself up on causing 'pain' to your source of trouble, you weren't nasty or rude, you spoke the truth of the matter and it set things in order. YHWH tells us the truth and it hurts no less, but then healing and growth come after.

I pray your situation improves in leaps and bounds.

~czygyny

Hi Ladies. I've been enjoying Eliyah's site for almost a year, and am happy to have finally found the forum! I didn't even know it was here! Here's a little intro of me:
My name's Laura, I just moved to North Georgia, near the NC border (anyone around here). i'm a homeschooling mama (well, intending to be...) of three little ones. A boy age almost 7, a girl age 5 and a girl age 2 1/2. My husband of 7 1/2 years has, since I met him been a believer that we must keep Torah, mostly in terms of Sabbath, foods, and observing the biblical days instead of the Catholic/pagan days. I married him just as I began to explore Faith, went to church for the first time etc. , coming out of a vaguely new-agey background (born to Catholic-raised mother and actively unbelieving father). We have been growing together in observing the Appointed times, although the 'burden' of figuring it out does seem to fall on the Mama. It is a learning process, to sort out what's biblical and what's someone's tradition, and how to build family traditions (if that is a worthy goal) while maintaining Scriptural integrity. I've recently made my first tassels to wear, trying to figure it out, how to attach them etc. My hubby isn't wearing them, but I'm actually doing well not being pushy. My kids all want one to wear. Wearing them at my waist level feels a little masculine to me, but my skirts are long, and I sometimes wear shorts around the house. I'm feeling like this might be a time to transition to skirts all the time.. Your suggestions on how to wear them (esp how to attach them ) are appreciated. I've skimmed through some of the previous posts. We usually use paper plates for Sabbath. We don't even always light candles! I'm not even sure what the candle lighting signifies, in terms of how many candles etc. Would anyone like to share their candle-lighting philosophy? What you do that's meaningful. I would like to go somewhere where we could watch the sunset as a family. At this point it's usually a scramble to get the house even marginally restful in terms of clean/picked-up-ness. And dinner... sometimes a special meal, sometimes not. Scripturally, it's a day of rest and holiness. I can see in myself the tendency to feel like to make all the Appointed times and Sabbath special is all about food! I'm not even Jewish, where did I get this? Anyway, I remember reading a Scripture verse regarding observing one of the Appointed times, and He clearly said that we are to do no work EXCEPT that which was needed to feed people. Sometimes it seems that we put an undue burden on ourselves, feeling like we have to get so much done ahead of time, which isn't necessary.(Although, I admit it would be nice to have all food prepared for Sabbath meals.) I never feel like my house is really fit for a visit by a 'Queen', which is how some say to welcome in the Sabbath. It's important for me to sort out what's commanded and what's just somebody else's thing.
O.K. I guess you can tell I'm happy to have found y'all. Shalom, Laura

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"Bring my soul out of prison that I may praise thy Name. The righteous shall compass me about, for thou shalt deal bountifully with me."

Laura - when I get more time I'll write more, but I just wanted to suggest quickly what I do...I bought some women's cotton tanktops, of different colors, and carefully cut them up the side about 2 inches, then sewed an edge/hem where I had cut them.

Then, I attached a square of strong cotton material to the 4 corners, and sewed a button hole over each one. I can then loop the tassels through the holes and they stay very nicely. I wear another shirt over the undershirt of couse, in the summer just a loose button up shirt or pullover lightweight shirt, and I've been blessed not to be toooooo hot with 2 layers.

My only problem has been, dresses, because there really isn't a 4 corners there. If we were to put the tassels at the bottom of our dresses, they would drag the ground and that doesn't seem very reverent to me. I've seen some people attach them with safety pins, though, at their waist. I personally prefer skirts and blouses anyhow though, so it's not a problem.

Nancy B.

I recently added blue thread to the corner fringes of my prayer scarf, doing a bit of macrame knotting to make a 'tassel' look, and finishing the blue off to look like it has always been a part of the scarf. They are cute little tzitzits.

I haven't started wearing tzitzits all the time. I am not ready to wear two garments quite yet in our 100-110° summers quite yet, but I do as the Spirit prompts.

Shalom czygyny,

you wrote,



I was wondering what you meant by "wearing two garments"? The tzittzitot don't need to be on a separate article of clothing. I believe that is from the talmud. I wear mine on the belt loops of my pants or if there are no belt loops, then put the tassels on small safety pins and attatch!

angeL

I finally made a set of four, and am wearing them. Yay! I sewed loops to the inside seams of my two tiered skirts. The skirt that's really long, I sewed the loops to where the bottom two tiers meet, inside, where it won't tear the fabric, but they will peak out. If they're too hidden, I'll make longer ones. I haven't tackled my more delicate dresses and skirts yet, but I think I'll need to iron some small sturdy patches to the inside. I've never sewed much. I like the look and feel of the tassels at the bottom of my skirts, it feels more feminine to me.
Laura

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"Bring my soul out of prison that I may praise thy Name. The righteous shall compass me about, for thou shalt deal bountifully with me."

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Adelor

I tried to email you from your profile but it came back.

My Name is Theresa, I live just west of Lansing Michigan. I see from your post and profile you are somewhere near Grand Rapids Michigan. My family and I attend the Assembly of Yahweh in Eaton Rapids MI just south of Lansing. You stated you would like to have fellowship and attend feast. The Assembly host the feasts. They do not charge any money and food is provided. They will also be hosting this years unity conference. The first weekend inc Fri. in Aug. people from the US & other counties who uphold the name of Yahweh/Yahshua will be in attendance. We would enjoy meeting you and your family for Sabbath or Feast fellowship. The Assemby web site is www.assemblyofyahweh.com The address is there you can use Map Quest for directions.

BTW Anyone else reading this post is welcome to attend Sabbath, Feasts, and the Conference with us.

Shalom Ladies,

It's so nice to have this ladies group here. (nothing against the men by no means, it's just nice to be able to talk "girl" talk and share our understanding of Yahweh's word.)

I haven't studied about the TizTiz? or tassles yet. Reading about them on here is all new to me. I'll have to look for information on them on Eliyah's web page, as I really have no idea what they are all about.


Harvester

Thank you for posting about the Feast. I've been on the website before, but not for awhile. I live about 2 hrs north/west of Grand Rapids. I didn't know they held the Feast there too. I'll have to check into that also. It would be GREAT to meet with others who share the same beliefs I do, not to mention I'd love to learn more from others.

My e-mail is adelore@praiseyahweh.com I just got it a week or so ago.


Please keep me in your prayers ladies as I really want to be able to find a way to NOT have to work the Sabbath. Since the Sabbath really doesn't mean anything to my hubby and he's not been convinceted of Yahweh's Spirit yet, but I do know it's a work in progress, as I can see some change in my hubby. Please keep us in your prayers!

I'm really trying to find a way to adjust our Trucking around the Sabbath. Of course since he's the head of the household and I need to be respectful of him; I do get to put some input in to it; yet I know I can't be "Pushy" about it.

I do know for a fact that the many Prayers DO WORK! Praise Yahweh! As my hubbys heart has softened so very much already. I know in Yahwehs Time, (even though I must admit I wish Yahweh would hurry it along faster, my human side of course...lol) but Yahweh knows best on the pace it should happen. Yahweh knows my heart and He knows I'm a women who loves Him (Yahweh) dearly and I only want to Praise Him and worship Him the proper way.

I also know that Yahweh is using me (not in a bad way at all) to pass out pamplets (along with the Gospel of John) with the Truth on them across the country. I have enjoyed doing this very much and without a doubt if We weren't into Trucking across the country I couldn't possibly reach as many people as I am for Yahweh. Most of these people I'll never meet, which is ok with me.

I just pray that the information that I'm placing at the Truck Stops, Rest Areas, even in the toliet paper holder, (why Yahweh had me place it there is beyond me, but the feeling kept nagging at me, so I gave in and figured Yahweh wanted me to place it there for someone) and any other place I can find will be to help lead others to the Truth of Yahweh, the Sabbaths and the many other things I could list that I'm still learning about. But you all know what I mean.

Please pray with me that the pamplets, (printed off of Eliyah's website) will be a blessing to the many who find them. I pray that Yahweh will use this to lead many others to Him and His Beloved Son, Yahusha.

May Yahweh Bless,

Annette

Shalom ladies, especially Nancy and Laura,
I just wanted to quickly comment on the issue of tzit-tzits and dresses. I sew a lot and I am trying to start a business. One of the things I do is make tzit-tzits. I also sew head coverings, modest clothing, and that includes dresses. I was approved to wear jumpers at work, but even when I found out that I could do that, I struggled with how to wear the tzit-tzits. I have recently found a couple of very easy vest patterns that I can adapt to my dress patterns. I can attach them to the shoulders or wear them as a seperate. The nice thing about the vests is that you can always make them of thin cotton and you can make them to match the dress. You can also alter the side bottom hem to include corners without much trouble and usually the patterns only call for 1 - 2 yards of fabric. I have been fortunate enough to find Muslin (100% cotton material) for about $1.50 a yard and often Walmart has 100% cotton fabric for $1 a yard. You also have the option of dying the cotton to match dresses. This has been a real blessing for me and something fun to do. Hope this idea helps and blesses all. Take care and Yahweh bless you all in your endeavors to be faithful women of Yahweh.
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

Shalom ladies!

I just love making tzits,tzits...I just had an opportunity to make tzits tzits for a minster and I'm sending them out today! Its always tov to be a blessing to others and what joy it gives. Its exciting that we are all into the sewing thing exchanging ideas, what a blessing. I just recently started making my own skirts now and found a way also to loop the tzits tzits by making four belt loops on the four corners of the waist...so handy and better then using safety pins. Hope this helps someone.

Yah-shua bless you all!
shalom
hanna

Hanna, that's a good idea, the loops on the skirt. I went through my old patterns and found some skirt patterns, I'm going to try and sew some for myself and my daughters.

Just out of curiosity - in the Torah, it says you should not wear clothes of mixed fiber, wool and linen. My husband and I have been studying it, and in some versions of scripture it says, (not quoting exactly) 'you are not to wear clothes of mixed fiber, wool and linen' which sounds like you only need to worry about wool and linen mixed.

Yet other versions say 'you are not to wear clothes with mixed linen, for example...wool and linen.'...which sounds more like ANYTHING with mixed fiber we should avoid. Any thoughts on this??? I have a lot of cotton material, but it's quilting stuff and very hard to iron. I haven't bought more material, because we are trying to resolve this.

Thank you anyone who can shed some light on the subject.. maybe I should post it in the scripture study section...

Nancy

shalom NancyB

I know exactly what your saying about the mix material my husband and I have searched and asked many questions about this matter of material mixing. We've heard all kinds of thoughts on this issue and justitcations, but we have come to an understanding and conviction that we are not to mix any type of material that is not of pure kosher 100% whether it be cotton or linen or any other material together. According to this scripture it makes sense and is clear to me.

Lev 19:19 ‘Guard My laws. Do not let your livestock mate with another kind. Do not sow your field with mixed seed. And do not put a garment woven of two sorts of thread upon you.

If YHWH did not want livestock to mate with any other kind but themselves...and YHWH commanded not to sow mixture of any other seeds together in the field then I have to believe that YHWH also did not want us to wear any mixture of threads that where not of its kind also. This is the conviction that Yah has given me and my husband.

I went wal-mart and bought this blouse it was mixed cotton and spandex-which is a form of man made rubber plastic and as the days were passing by, I just didn't feel right, Nancy...when I read your post about the mix material Yah just convicted my strongly to take back this blouse and keep what he has shown me.

I know we all have to come to our own understanding in this, but this is what Yah has given to me. Hope it helps somewhat.

I personally am trying to clean out my wardrobe, I do have some 100% polyester man maid material...I'm praying about this. I mostly wear cottons and linens some 100%
polyesters. The body breaths with the cottons and linens.

Hugs and shalom
hanna

Hannah, I know that I love cotton, and would wear only it if I was able. Health-wise, I would say wearing only natural fibers would be best. I have absolutely nothing to back myself up on that, but it just seems natural that if we should eat whole foods, and things with the least amount of chemicals and man-made ingredients, wouldn't it make sense to cover your body in as natural a fabric as possible?

That said, I have a lot of mixed stuff, which I really want to weed out. One of these days, I'll sit back down at my spinning wheel and I'll figure out how to use my loom, and maybe I'll start making my own wool garments for the winter time too.

I've heard many ideas about mixing fabrics, and maybe it is best to be safe than sorry. I did post about it in the scripture study forum questions, and there were some really good answers. I would have to say I'm definately leaning more towards not mixing stuff.

Shalom Fellow Women of YAHUAH,

I have questions about wearing clothes of mixed fibers.

I hope this doesn't offend any of you, but I have to ask you if you wear underclothes? I mean bras, and undies. How can you wear them with out elastic?

What about socks? Then there are shoes. What about labels on the clothes? What about buttons, zippers, belts and velcro?

Just wondering.

angeL

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I don't think that a band of elastic is a problem, as it is threads of different fabrics WOVEN together that is commanded against. Hope that helps, Laura

shalom angel....

Lev 19:19 ‘Guard My laws. Do not let your livestock mate with another kind. Do not sow your field with mixed seed. And do not put a garment woven of two sorts of thread upon you.

I understand this scripture as any mixture of thread with different types of fibers meaning not 100% kosher. I do know what your talking about, the polyester elastic, I know that elastic is man made rubber its not really fiber thread its almost like plastic bag material but woven to a thicker rubber material. At this point for me. I wear 100% cotton under clothing that do have elastic waist band which, I don't think is wrong because its not thread...its thin woven plastic made to wear. As far as socks...its hard to find 100% cotton which I don't wear socks because of this.

You can make your own underclothing like a bathing suit type without the elastic if this bothers you just use cotton string and sew it through hoops on your underwear and bra and tie it at the ends. You also can order 100% cotton or wool socks just look up on google. Everyone thinks different about this issue, I would just pray until Yah gives you an answer. I thought about making my under wear and bra this way, but I have yet to start doing this. I'm sorry if I'm not so clear for your questions.

I do lean more on the 100% kosher material. Maybe one of the ladies in here can shed more light on this one for you.

shalom
hanna

I talked with another sister on this, and her thoughts were that because we're a scattered people, especially those of us who live in the boonies, we can only do the best we can and ask YHWH to understand. I imagine if you lived near a very orthodox Jewish community, the options to buy things closer to what you want would be much more plentiful. We met some people from Pittsburgh (that's about 2 hours from here) and they have lots of Kosher Delis to choose from. I didn't ask them about clothing.

We have a hard time just with the food laws living out here where we do. I have recently joined a food buying club, and they mark it as to what is Kosher and what isn't. We're so excited to have that, at least.

Nancy B.

Hello Everyone. I've been reading EliYah's website for a while and have only just noticed this forum! I've only been shown the real truth of YHWH in the last six months and through His grace and love, He is showing me how to love Him 'with all my heart, with all my mind and with all my strength'. I'm particularly keen on this forum because I have an unbelieving husband and an unbelieving and argumentative teenage daughter. Its hard for me to keep Shabbat perfectly but I have definately seen a change in my husband. He moaned at first but now is understanding. I live in England which does seem to me to be a godless nation and I do not fellowship with anyone on a Saturday. I do have friends from the local church I used to attend and I have tried to show them the truth that we must follow Torah etc. but I've been disappointed with the response. I can see that online 'meetings' have been a real blessing to everyone, so please count me in!!

Hi, I'm glad you posted. I'm new to this forum too, and would be happy to see it active. Write when you like! laura






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"Bring my soul out of prison that I may praise thy Name. The righteous shall compass me about, for thou shalt deal bountifully with me."

HeHoldsMyHand, Welcome to our ever growing fellowship. I have not been here very long either, so we are all learning together. I have known about the validity of Torah in the Christian walk for about a year, and none of my family believes at all, except my 12 year old niece and nephew, who lives on the same property, and I am not able to teach them like I would like to do. My fervent prayer right now is to be able to find another means of income so I can take over stewardship of this household, my ailing mother, the kids and the five acres, and remove my abusive brother from the property. Today I feel like YHWH is ready to move in a great way in my life, so I wait expectantly for Him to open doors! Our extended family needs so much of His oversight right now!

I wouldn't fret too much about keeping a 'perfect Shabbat' right now, the very fact that you're trying is so blessed in our Father's eyes, I think. How many of His children never, ever even consider this very important sign of a heart and will chasing hard after Him? What an uphill battle it is in Babylon!

May we all continue to walk and grow ever closer to the goal He has set before us.

Thank you so much, Laurabsings & Czygyny, for your warm welcome. I feel very blessed and encouraged! xx

P.S Czygyny...how do you pronounce your name?! Zz-ge-ny?

shalom, HeHoldsMyHand, welcome to EliYah's discussion forum!

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:-) very close! tzi'-ge-nee you ought to try to pronounce my real last name, it is even worse! :-D

Shalom HeHoldMyHand!

How wonderful you've found this forum. Welcome to the group and may Yahweh touch your Husband, daughters and Brothers heart.

Just since I've found that Yahweh and Yahushua have true names and I started using them and since I've studied plenty on this website and with lots of prayers from myself and others on this forum, Yahweh is slowly (turning my husbands ways around.)

Although I must FULLY admit, Yahweh has touched me in many many ways that I NEEDED to change. At first this was so very hard for me to admit; or even see in myself.

Someone, (I don't remember who once answered one of my postings and said, something on the order of that maybe things were going so hard for me with my husband because maybe I needed to change some things about me.)

Of course, my first reaction was, Not me, he's (my hubby) the one that needs to change! After all,I'm studing the Bible, trying to learn all I can, I'm praying day and night, I'm using Yahweh and Yahushuas names, (something I never knew before) I'm trying to keep the Sabbath;


What more can Yahweh expect of me?


Of course I said this outloud to myself with no one else in ear shot. And Guess what? Yahweh was soon answering me!

Now mind you I'm so very thankful our Father Yahweh has such a good sense of humor and plenty of patience....As when He was letting me know where I needed to change, (and I'm still working on these things, it's not easy at first, but with Yahwehs help it does happen.)

I of course was talking with Yahweh and saying.......but what about him. I'd then list the things of course about my hubby to Yahweh, (as if Yahweh didn't already know right? lol) Of course once I started to listen to Yahweh and started to do what He was telling me, things slowly little by little, and I mean little by little started to change at my house. Things are still not perfect by no means; yet compared to what it was, things have changed Leaps and bounds! And I can see Yahwehs hand in it all.

Now don't get me wrong, sometimes I wish things would change around faster; yet I'm thankful for what HAS changed and Yahweh WILL do what He sees needs to be done in His own time, and Yahweh reminds me to be patient and Ony He knows what's best. I still keep praying daily for myself and my husband and family.

Now I'm being very honest here as I want to encourage you with what I'm telling you.

Keep praying for your family, but also PRAY for YOURSELF that Yahweh will change you to be the person He wants you to be! Believe me, this is where it all starts with you and the changes will happen.

It won't be overnight......but have faith sister, Yahweh will help you and He will hear your prayers...just keep in mind all in His time.

May Yahweh Bless you and know we are here for you.




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Annette
adelore@praiseyahweh.com

shalom to all in this thread and to those to follow. This is my first day of finding this forum on the site. I wish I could be one who could say; "I am always prepared in time for Sabbath" I can not. Yet I am these days lead to beleive it is enough.
yes I wanted to have this dish made, or that chore completed before sabbath, so what??? My want, is not what is important. Who said anyway, that we should begin preparations in the day of 6th day???? How much less our Stress if we begin our meal preparations at evening 6th day, or for those who may be lacking in understanding, (if any do) We as the wives and mothers, can choose to take the stand to start our meal preparations on Thursday evening, so we are not robbed of the Sabbath blessings. It has been a time of stress in our home as well, I will begin this preparation time as the sun goes down tonight.
We do not use paper plates; would not work for the babies anyway, as they would eat or shread them (smiles).
do not see that rinsing and stacking dishes would be counted as breaking Sabbath.
What I am trying to say, is, if it is done by Sabbath, great! If not done by then, well, no one will die if there is not another type of food to set on the table. In other words, forget the other chores until Sabbath is over. We can miss our blessing, and stress our families out to miss their blessing, from our own wants, let it not be so.
Clothing, was mentioned, in this thread. This has convicted me of how much more I as a wife and mother need to hold to my responsibilities of sewing. Will likewise be in prayer on some different designs. Here is my secret to how I sew, as i have never had a class, nor do I understand store patterns, still what I sew is a blessing, and worthwhile product. I pray, i simply , in faith, ask YHWH to guide my hands to make what is needed. By the way, this is my secret to cooking, canning, gardening, child rearing, marriage, educating our children, etc.. you name the subject on motherhood, and being a wife, and that is my guide. When I am faithful to use this guide, all the work of my hands seemingly produce fruit.
may i always remember my faithful guide to use it well. may all of you who choose to use this guide be as blessed in your endeavours to serve as I have been and still remain.
would love emails from any or all of you as we all grow in our faith and share the wonders YHWH has blessed us with. as a home bound beleiver, (ability adjusted, I suppose, would be a way to say) the computer allows me a way to have fellowship, out side of our home, to our knowledge, there are no other beleivers, within very many miles of us. Thank you all for being here for me and for each other, and I will try as I can to be there for all of you as YHWH allows.
Shalom,
remnant@praiseyahweh.com

My my my...we've just hit a dry spell here haven't we? LOL.... How is everyone doing?

Maybe now, since we've all been so quiet, would be a nice time to introduce ourselves, where we're from, what our lives are like...

I'm Nancy obviously. I am married to Chuck in case many of you ladies go to the chat rooms. I am mostly quiet in there, though sometimes I'll pipe in my feeble opinions )

I was born in California, Chuck was born in Ohio, and we met when he was stationed out there in the Marines. We've been married 24 years (!!!) We have 4 "biological" children, we have adopted 4, and we have a 5 year old foster son. We also had a foster son who is on his own now, who calls us often to tell us he wishes he had listened to us when he lived here! We are a homeschool family.

We have a small farm in the hills of WV, 40 acres, and I raise sheep and goats with the help of my wonderful kids. I garden, work with wool, and sell stuff on Ebay and Etsy. I have only been a believer in following the Torah and the true names, since about October last year (2006). But with Chuck's help, we have learned soo much, thank YHWH for a studious, intelligent husband! Now if I can learn to listen to him a little more, we'll really be in good shape!

I am trying to lose weight,...anyone have any advice in that realm of things? I HATE dieting...ugh....

Nancy B.

Hi nice to 'meet' you Nancy. I'm Lindsey and live in Hampshire, UK, in a village near Winchester which is the ancient capital of England, down near the south coast. I'm married to a lovely man, Angus, who isn't a believer but is understanding of my beliefs. He's an ambulanceman. I have a 14 year old daughter who swings from funny and sweet to downright horrible. She's horrible at the mo! I have only really followed Yahushua properly since January this year and my daughter is having none of it, and calls me weird. If I have any more children (YHWH willing) I will definately homeschool as school certainly ruins them.

As far as I know there are no other believers near here so I don't fellowship with anyone. I haven't been to church since the end of Jan and I do occasionally meet with a couple of church friends. Have discussed with them the importance of following Torah but this was totally dismissed by them. I also want to lose a little weight. I don't eat much so have decided I need to move more.

Am trying not to covet your farm! 40 acres is small? wow! Would love to live like that, but am currently surrounded by houses and traffic. I have a yearning for a more simpler and quieter life.

That'll do for now. Could talk for hours about the love of YHWH in my life and still can't believe He showed me His truth when so many others don't (won't)see it. Am in constant state of awe/humility/gratefulness/wonder etc etc.!

Lindsey
Psalm 37:23-24 'The steps of a man are established by YHWH and He delights in his way. When he falls, he shall not be hurled headlong, because YHWH is the one who holds his hand'.

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Shalom Ladies,
My name is Tahar (Candice in english). My husband is Yochanan. In the chat room I am Y_and_T_2 and my husband is Y_and_T. We have been fellowshipping on this site since about 2002, but have only recently been meeting people in persom. My husband and I were originally born in CA and have lived in many states. We always wondered, even as children, why our parents would choose to have children in a place like California, LOL! Neither one of us really ever liked the state. We have been married for 14 years and have been in the true names movement for about 10 years. I have been a follower for 33 years and my husband has been one for about 21 years. We are praying for Yahweh to allow us the blessing of being parents, but as of right now we only have a cat who thinks he is a real boy, LOL! EliYah's caht room is a HUGE blessing in our lives and so are all the people we have had fellowship with through this avenue Yahweh has provided for us. We pray we continue to have sweet fellowship with His children and pray that all of you will experience some of the same. Shalom to all of your hoomes and Yahweh bless!
In His love and service,
Tahar_bat_Levi

Shalom and blessings to you all. This is my very first post here. I have had my email through EliYah for quite some time, but have never been to the forum. I am relieved to see other women with similar wants, needs and concerns. To take a moment to introduce myself, I am a daughter, wife, mother, and grandmother 6 times with the most recent two being twin girls!! Hallelu'yah! They are my tikvah and simcha. My husband and I have been on this path together for many years, over 25, but have in the last 10-11 years come to deeper knowledge. We live off grid, and have for 25+ years, thereby hauling our water, no elec, no phone etc. We raise and slaughter our own meats, (my husband does a kosher slaughter), have chickens and eggs, and grow much of our own food.
I read posts regarding clothing. I too found that in order to obtain high quality and comfortable clothing, I needed to do it myself. I only use 100% cottons, linens, wools etc. As far as the elastic, I do not use much, however I agree with the statement that the elastic is not woven into the garment. I do order and pay a premium price for 100% cotton socks.
We eat kosher foods, we wear unmixed clothing, and we keep YHVH's calendar, uncorrupted by society. When I say this I mean that each month starts anew with the sighting of the new moon. Then we begin the counting, 6 workdays, Shabbat. We do not use the gregorian or babylonian calendar at all. I do have to refer to it in my work environment, but usually I have no idea which day or date we are on without simply looking it up.
I am now past the time of women, having gone through menopause almost completely, but my husband and I also kept the laws of family purity/ Niddah. We had our time of separation each month. In everything we do we try our best to apply what YHVH has given us and follow His instructions given in His Torah. I hope to have many discussions with you all and hope I can find this site again after today.
Shabbat Shalom!! Tonight at sunset will be the 2nd Sabbath, the 15th day of the 6th Biblical month. (full moon)
I also saw many women talking about their Sabbath preparations. Without indoor plumbing of any kind, I do use alot of paperplates. Not just for Sabbath. I do prepare food ahead of time, but find that we eat alot of raw fruits, raw veggies, and cheese, olives, hard boiled eggs etc....
Well, sorry for being so longwinded! Shabbat Shalom, Moriahs bubbe.

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"Bring my soul out of prison that I may praise thy Name. The righteous shall compass me about, for thou shalt deal bountifully with me."

Hi!
I'm new here. I live in Marietta, GA. I'll be turning 19 years old soon. I have only been trying to follow Torah for the last week. It is hard, because I don't even know what Torah says!! I've read it several times, but you don't remember things you think don't apply to you....
I've already been wearing head coverings, even though now I am convicted to cover my entire hair. I'm not married, but I am engaged (although without parental recognition... :-( ), to a gentleman, who I'm sure will be coming on the forums some time soon.
Even when I was an "orthodox" Christian I had trouble finding women fellowship. When I became an "unorthodox" Christian, I still had trouble finding women fellowship. Now that I believe I might need to follow torah, I'm hoping that this will be a good fellowship place.
I have so many questions! I hope to ask them soon. I figure I should search the forum for answers first, but anyone who wants to talk to me and answer them is good too.
My email address, edited for spambots, is m3lani3_all3n_@gmail.com
Remove the '_'s.

*a tad overwhelmed*
I just read the rest of the threads... mixed linen? I'm poor...(thank you college) I don't know how to sew... I want to....
I'll have to replace like *look into closet* Oh... thank goodness, not as much as I thought! Lots of 100% cotton in here. 1 turtleneck and 3 mocks, a few hoodies, a dress, gone. I hated those mocks though, kind of loved the turtleneck. But I haven't checked my denim bottoms yet.
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Edit: how is it that at a rabbinical approved site, their head coverings are of mixed linen...? I'm not happy, I just bought several.

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Shalom Hope,

Welcome to the truth! We are all glad you have decided to follow the Torah!

Please come to the online meetings here, too. There is a 6th (fri) evening 8:03pm -ish online meeting, that is a message in text form. The noon Sabbath meeting (misourri time) is an audio meeting, where eliYAH gives the same message but he has an audio hookup. After the message eliYAH has a time to call in and ask questions, sing songs, give praise reports, and generally just encourage each other.

The headcoverings you mentioned are made from mixed linen? Do you mean the linen is mixed with something like cotton or wool? If they are, you have found out some truth about most of the "orthodox jews." They follow the talmud, not the Torah. D; sad but true They often do things that are in direct opposition to the Torah!

I just went through my clothes, too. I have three bags of clothes I am going to get rid of! I know how you feel about some of the clothes, ); I had to get rid of some of my most comfy turtle necks, and pants, too. I have a dilemma as to what to do about getting rid of them. I don't know if I should trash them, donate them to people in africa, or give them to a thrift store?


Great to meet a new sister!

angeL
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Hi, my name is Heidi. My family has been listening to the Sabbath meetings for about a year now, but I only recently ventured into the chat room as sheepmommy. My husband and I have been married for seven years and have 4 children, the oldest of which just began homeschooling. We are doing our best to keep the Torah, Sabbath, and the feasts. It is such a delight. We were thrust out of the church system in February for teaching the children how to write Yahshua in Hebrew, but we couldn't be happier.

I'm glad to have the opportunity to learn from other women, and maybe, just maybe, have something to share in return. We live on a farm with sheep and cows, and my husband pays the bills by flying a plane. I also have a small knitting business that I enjoy working at. I look forward to getting to know each of you a little better.

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Hi Heidi - I've talked to you in the chat room. I'm the one with the sheep and goats in WV.

Do you use knitting needles, or do you use a knitting loom? My kids have begun using those circular looms, and they are really enjoying it. We've just used commercial yarn, but we're working on spinning some more wool so they can try and knit with wool. So far they've only made hats )

Nancy

Hi Nancy,
I have used the looms, and my daughter enjoys it, but I am very much in love with my needles. They only get put down on Sabbath. I'm getting better at keeping my hands still and enjoying the day.

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I might have the wrong take on this but I cannot relate to this conversation. The whole thing is that I am a male who is single. I have not 'dated' in "seventeen years". What characterizes my general behavior would be practical righteousness That the only thing where I wavered is an exchanging a couple of emails at two Dating 'sites', no discrepancy in that. For the forum..Hi it's a bachelor who is a man above the age of majority who has never been married (see single). For now Im a man who has not been formerly married (and not a divorcee or a widower either) The legal exceptions are within cases where there was legally no marriage—especially if it was never 'consummated',.The Term "confirmed bachelor" can also refer to heterosexual men who show no interest in marriage or classes of committed relationships. Too many Pauline studies I guess. Working things out w/Fear and trembling,. That is not to say there wasn't 3 months of "living with a girl" when I was at the age of 19. Actually im not in the habbit of leaving things undisclosed or things as is,.. Thank Heaven, It's all about "Light" these days,.I am awaiting by being a patient guy. I always brighten up the room as people say! Most times I the one with a great sence of humor. By nature, I am completely unpragmatic. I am warm, sensitive, emotional, kind and a homebody but sociable. I am a possessive man. But Pray.Warriors are like that,.I am very light-hearted and love to have a title in each hand... I am principled Even at my own expense (umm, preferably at someone else's though, LOL). I enjoy living each day as it comes but at the same time, have long term goals. I look at the glass as half full and live my life that way. I am a positive person and have no time or room in my life for negativity.You might ask what it is I want.Not to sound like a lounge lizard but I would find it most interesting to know some folks. Dating sites for what it's worth gets old. Just a suggestion,. Oh, And I do not have children and have not been "partying" . Sorry if I ve got the wrong end of the stick but that's a little bit about me. The male in the forum.

> POSTSCRIPT : Abnormal as it is; I know it really must count for something.

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Shalom, Ladies

The Sabbath, yes, preparing so that we can reap the benefits has been a challenge for me as well because I have a full-time job. It's not as big of a challenge during the summer months, but when it starts getting dark really early on Friday, that's when I have to make some real adjustments. Here are some new habits I have formed and some other actions I have taken:

1. I no longer commit myself to elaborate evening meals Monday through Thursday. So a salad or snack will have to do, or my husband will prepare something more elaborate for himself. I use that new available time for Sabbath preparation.

2. All day Sunday, Monday through Thursday evening, I do house chores/errands so that on Sabbath they are either done or they will be done on Sunday, and therefore they aren't 'hanging over my head' on Sabbath. I also cook a very nice meal for us on Sundays because I like to cook, and I like to do this for my husband.

3. Friday morning, I prepare something in the slow cooker, so that there is a nice meal ready on Friday evening, and enough for leftovers the next day.

4. I am fortunate that I work for a company where I can have some flexibility in my schedule, and as a manager, I can pretty much control a lot of the activity for which I am responsible. So on Fridays, I start earlier and leave earlier. Sometimes I work extra long on Thursdays and leave early on Friday, so that I am not arriving home close to dusk like I would with a normal schedule.

In addition, I do not make it part of preparation to set a beautiful table or any other such custom. We do use regular dishes which we rinse and put in the dishwasher (which is empty and ready to go before Sabbath) and then we run it once Sabbath ends.

It took me a long while to learn new habits because I used to work during the week, and cook meals, and then do housework on the weekends. And I must say, I actually have a whole new attitude and feeling about my weekends. I feel refreshed after Sabbath, and I don't resent the housework anymore, and I actually have time even on Sundays to relax and rest before starting a paid work week.

Shalom, again!

My name is Mary Ann, and I live in the Midwest. I also do not live near any fellowship. There Torah fellowships an hour to two hours away, but that is really further than I want to drive, and they don't necessarily meet on regular schedules. There are a couple of Messianic congregations, again the same distance, but I disagree with some of their doctrine, so I just have to do this on my own, and I am at peace with that now.

I am coming to my new spiritual understandings as I began to explore the Hebraic roots of my faith about two years ago. I was not a mainstream Christian and had not been one for over 25 years.

As with many of you, my path is something new for my husband. So, I'm hoping this fellowship forum can be a place where we can share this experience.

We live on six acres of wooded land next to a national forest. We have created a wildlife habitat on the property, and so such creatures as deer, and wild turkeys, rabbits, squirrels, foxes, box turtles, and a wonderful assortment of birds find food and sanctuary here. We also have 4 rescue dogs that we have taken in and have provided a home for.

So that's a little bit about me.