The way of Yahweh is a pecular way. Unfortunately many of us live in a place where we have few or no role models of how Yahushua would have us to live. My husband and I have had these struggles and have been given much wisdom by Yahweh. We struggle with the lack of people around us who want to read Yahweh's word much less walk as He would have us to. But alas, Yahweh has called us to be a wine skin and we really want to share His truths. I personally have had several women from the chat room come to me about the way of Yahweh for women and it is a very different road than most of us have been taught to walk. I just wanted to post and say that I am just learning and I am far from being perfect, but I would be willing to share my experiences in growing to walk on this path and I would be willing to be accountable with any that have a desire. As I stated, I am far from perfect, but I will do my best to be faithful.
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

Shalom, Tahar

I can certainly empathize with you, as I am going thru the same thing you went thru. The chat room is a very nice place to chat and learn from others of similar beliefs. I, too, am learning the ways of Yahweh, and so just wanted to share with you that you are not alone.

Mazel Tov to you! (and ME as well! LOL)

Hello Tahar, I really need accountability too. I am discouraged due to my Moms attitude towards my choices. I am haveing a hard time getting it together in time for Sabbath on preparation day as well as being the submissive wife as the Word requires of us. Pray for me. I am changeing from Shashua to Chanita. Talk to you soon. Chanita

Shalom sisters!

Here are some great studies!

http://www.eliyah.com/family/mothers.html
http://www.eliyah.com/family/wives.html

In my journeys with YHWH as HIS handmaiden...HE has deeply impressed this passage on my heart...may you too be encouraged!

1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of Elohim of great price.

I asked YHWH to reveal to me deep inside of me...what this ornament of a meek and quiet spirit really is...
and then, with joy when HE showed me,
the words..

is in the sight of Elohim of great price...

made perfect sense!


May YHWH bless you richly as you fulfil the desires HE placed upon your hearts!

With much love in Yahushua,
Tamar

I would reccomend you go to this site and read the article entitled:

"Family Order," http://www.yahuahreigns.com/family.html

it is a well written and thought provoking tretise on the roles in a Torah observant household.

Shalom,

angeL

Hi all, this is late coming, but I really need some fellowship with other women trying to follow Yahweh in all ways. I hope this thread can be revived and maybe we can all develop friendships and help each other walk as we should.

Just an introduction - My name is Nancy, I am in the chat room usually on Shabbat, don't get a lot of time to go there other times though I wish I could. I have 4 "bio" children, 4 adopted, and 1 foster son as this time. 3 of my kids are grown and moved out, so I have 6 at home right now. We homeschool (have been for about 15 years or so) and we live in West Virginia on a 40 acre farm. We raise sheep and goats, and I make things with the wool and sell them on Ebay and Etsy.

Looking forward to speaking with more of you!

Nancy

Shalom Nancy,
I agree whole-heartedly with your post. I think my original post was mis-understood as I was trying to reach out to those who are struggling with this lifestyle and maybe had questions. I hope to have fellowship with more women also. Maybe you and I nancy could at least e-mail one another once a week or give each other a call. Anyway, Yahweh be glorified and magnified!
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

Tahar - what does Tahar-bat-Levi mean?

Do you do a devotional each day? I try and at least pray, but I have gotten behind in the daily Torah Study that Chuck does for the kids. Still, I'm trying to catch up!

Nancy

Shalom Nancy,
Tahar means "clean or cleansed" and bat-Levi means daughter of Levi. That is because Yochanan has traced his family line to the tribe of Levi. I understand about the devotional thing. I pray every day, but I get behind on studies often. I am somewhat a person that needs structure. It is hard for me to just open up with out a lesson polan or guide, but Yahweh is helping me. Look forward to chatting with you again sson! Yahweh bless!
Shalom

I get so behind on preparation day. Does anyone else feel like there are just not enough hours in the day or days in the week?

I think I need to work on maybe doing a little each day instead of saving it all for preparation day. I get so bummed when dinner's not quite done and the sun is slowly sinking away *sigh* How do you ladies do it all?

It seems like friday morning, we usually run to the store for last minute stuff, and this really cuts into the day. I think if I start going later thursday night, and make sure I get everything I need, things will go more smoothly.

Another thing...we end up with a huge mess after dinner. I know we are supposed to not do work, but it is more deppressing and stressful for me to have all that mess sitting around for 24 hours. It seems also that although we've stressed everyone picking up their own messes, everyone leaves messes more because it's the Sabbath, and I end up with much more work. Sorry, don't mean to complain. But honestly, lately, Sabbath is anything but rest for me. Does this happen at any of your homes?

Any ideas of how to make things run more smoothly would be greatly appreciated!

Nancy B.

shalom Nancy,

my mother and I usually try to get laundry, cleaning floors, bathroom, shopping etc done on Thursday, so we only prepare the food on Friday. This way we can enjoy watch the sun setting on Friday with the colourful sky and birds flying and flitting from tree to tree. Then we go inside and eat our shabbat dinner with peace.

We have an unused dishwasher - we just rinse our plates and put them in there. Come 1st day, we take them out and wash 'em.

I've read that some Jews use paper plates on shabbats, this way everyone gets to rest.

Hope the info is useful.



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Shalom dear achoti Nancy,
Yes, I understand what you are talking about. I often times work on Friday and Thursday night so it can be a real challenge. Usually we get something simple and not very mussy for erev shabbat and shabbat to eat. We do either sandwiches, fruit salad, or both. Also, we recently had some people from the chat room come to meet us on their way to Tenn. We bought styrofoam plates and plastic cups in preperation for their visit. This is now what we use on shabbat. There are many reasons for this, but the main one is so that we can enjoy Yahweh and His people. Try to make the meal on shabbat about enjoying one another and ehjoying Yahweh. PBandJ can be tov and not much to clean up. Anyhow, hope this helps. Also, our weekly chore day is 1st day so we usually don't have that to deal with. Shalom to your home and Yahweh bless!
Tahar

We've begun making 1st day (snday) our big clean up day too. Although Shabbat is from sundown to sundown, we try to not do much on 7th day night either. I feel that if you prepare all day fri, then do a big clean up sat., you really don't get much of a rest! So we wait till 1st day morning and do a whole house clean up, as well as outside work.

I recently got the book, "Fix it and Forget it" which is all crock pot recipies, I think I'll start using those for preparation day...by the evening I would think we could turn it off and just dip out our dinner, no worries!

Nancy

Sounds like a very tov idea. Hope you enjoy that book. May Yahweh continue to bless you as you strive to enter into His rest and obey His Torah 8-D Shalom to your home.
In His love,
Tahar

hope it goes well, Nancy

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Blessed be the Name of YHWH

I am new here, and thought I'd add my voice to this thread.

I find it a real struggle to be prepared for Sabbath and to keep myself from doing the many things I do during the week (cleaning, working in the garden, stopping by the market, etc) since I am truly a 'Martha' type, with many responsibilities and interests.

All I know is, that my walk towards Him is a slow work in progress, and I can't do it without prayer and relying on YHWH's strength. My life situation seems to frequently bring my spirit to a grinding stop, necessitating my full reliance on His Spirit. (But I guess that is what He wants, eh?)

My biggest amazement is how the 'spirit of antichrist' has turned our lifestyle upside down by reconstructing our calendar, taking us from a lunar-structured to a sun-structured process, giving us a sun-up to sun-up reckoning of a 'day', and pretty much mucking up everything as Elohim had orignially set up, and giving it the legitimacy of 'it-being-so' for millennia. It is quite a process to tear all that down in our minds, hearts and lives, and rebuild the model in His pattern!

BTW, my name 'czygyny' is taken from a Polish/Hungarian word csigany, meaning gypsy, wanderer or in otherwords--'sojourner', which those of us who keep faith in YHWH (and His Son Yahshua) are to be considered in this world, sojourning in a world that is not ours, for our estate is not yet obtained. The name had its beginning in a story I wrote years ago (and was actually a space-ship, no less ;-) ) and I made it my own moniker when I became more seriously embarked on this journey on the narrow path Home.

I have been without an internet fellowship since the site I was involved with decided to consider extra-biblical writings to be on par with the Word given to us in the Bible, and they denied the validity of the Torah in our lives in this age, and I am weary of holding the Light up in the 'conspiracy' forums. Enough time has been spent watching what the 'enemy' is up to, now I need to focus on what my Father is doing.

I hope to make friends here and to be a part of this fellowship. To help and be helped. There are entirely too few of us!

shabbat shalom, czygyny,

glad to meet you and welcome to EliYah's discussion forum!

they have online shabbat meetings, maybe meet you there?

Susan

Welcome to the Forum!

I hope to see you around here on the forum. I'm a hit and miss as my husband and I are over the road truck drivers.

I understand your strugle very much!

May Yahweh Bless You.

czygyny - I'm sorry I didn't write sooner, I forgot my password and didn't know it was so easy to get it! Your post was so honest, it made me feel better to know others struggle too.

You are so right,...as truth is revealed it's almost shocking to the system to realize how far gone everything in this world is, how mixed up and far from the way YHWH intended it to be! I can *almost* see why some people just stick with the status quo, as it's so hard to change and do what's right. It's much easier to say, "Well, this is the way we've always done things, I'm too old to change" and just leave it at that.

I don't struggle much with going places on the Sabbath, but getting everything done before it, and maintaining at least some sort of order is very hard for me. I often wonder what other families DO continue, and what they just quit doing for the day altogether. For example, we have a big family, so after just one meal the clean up is huge. If I were not to do dishes or clean up after meals, then by the end of Sabbath the amount of work I'd have to do would be overwhelming. We do have a dishwasher, so we try and have it completely empty by sundown, so we can put everything in there as we're done with it, but even so, it's usually filled after our Sabbath dinner. I've heard some people talk of using paper plates, cups, etc, but the expense of it plus, I don't know, we just enjoy that meal being the nicest of the week, so it's a big deal to bring out the silver and the best plates we have (though those aren't all that nice!)

Anyhow, I'd love to hear how other women and their families "do" the Sabbath each week. Do you have a format for the meal, service, etc? Do you sing songs? What songs? That's something we want to start doing.

Nancy

Thank you for letting me know that I'm not the only wife out there that struggles. My mom wasn't a very good role model, so when I got married...who was I to look to? I knew that my mom wasn't a good role model, but I didn't know who else to look to for an example.
Reading what Eliyah posted about wives brought tears to my eyes. Scripture tells me how to act, and I am so happy to oblige to Yahuah's word now that I know and realize how I should act. :-) HalleluYAH!

Another good source of reading material would be Created to Be his Help Meet By Debi Pearl.
A very good book...very much recommended.
You can find it at:
www.nogreaterjoy.org
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~Sarai

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Shalom Nancy,

Once I found out the truth about Sabbath from sunset to sunset, it really opened up a whole new world to me. Since I'm the only one in my family who cares about it and studies the Word of Yahweh it made things "hard" for me to work around.

My husband and I are over the road Truck Drivers, I work 12 hours during the Day and he works 12 hours during the "night shift". When home we keep to our routine, (sleeping patteren) So since I work days and he works nights so to speak and our Son works seconds, meals around here are a big problem.

I then came up with a plan to make a large Turkey, pot of chillie, chicken, roast, anything that could be used as a left over type meal. This way with the three of us eating/sleeping different times around the clock during the Sabbath I wouldn't have to cook and since I too have a dish washer (even though I'm the only one who knows how to fill/empty it...lol) I just let the dishes pile up in the sink and walk away. (Yes the dishes piling up use to really bother me, but not anymore.)

The other thing my husband and son came up with is paper plates. I buy them at Wal-mart or the dollar store, this alone really saves on the dishes pileing up in the sink. Since I've made the meal ahead of time there are no pans to worry about.

I then study the word of Yahweh on the Sabbath. It really frees me up, now that I've accepted to let the dishes pile up and follow Yahwehs Word. Although I will admit a little water in the sink for the dishs to pile up in neatly really makes a difference when the sun goes down on the Sabbath and I then load the dish washer, as the food hasn't dried on them. I even find if both sides of the sink fill up, once again soaking in water, so be it.

I understand what you mean about using the good dishes, but if you can use paper plates and it makes less work for you afterwards and it frees your mind from the worry of the dishes that are piling up on you, then by all means go for the paper plates. At first it's hard I know, but oh what a relief it is! Remember it's not that Plate or silverware that makes the Sabbath meal so special. On the rare occasions that I do get to sit and have a Sabbath meal with my husband and son, it's such a blessing that paper towels could be used and I'd be thrilled.

I have found it's GREAT to at last have a day of rest...no laundry, no cooking, no dishes, nothing but studing the word of Yahweh or spending time with my family.

Since this is all still so new to me and I'm still learning many new things, at least with tons of prayer from everyone here on this forum and myself, Yahweh has softened my husbands heart to where he no longer gives me any problems with/or about it. The Sabbath and my studing so much.

May Yahweh Bless you.

Shalom ladies,
So glad to see the interaction and to see that we are all striving to enter His rest as His word says. I too didn't have any role models of YHWH fearing women growing up. I am so blessed that YHWH has such great mercy and grace on us. I praise Him for my husband who is so patient with my short comings. May we continue to share our struggles with one another and pray for one another. May YHWH be praised and glorified in all of our lives and may we we women be His hand maidens. Shalom to your homes and YHWH bless!!!
In the love and shalom of Yahushua

I have no example, either, and I am leery of the 'traditions' of orthodox sabbath keeping, but try to come at it fresh and scripturally sound. Doesn't mean it is perfect yet! No one in my family believes, so my trying to change our usual routine has been difficult.

I have no spouse, nor children of my own, but my brother's twins come and stay with me on the weekends (they are next door at my mother's during the week) and my 'adopted' oldest son, who was orphaned at 16 and ended up with me. (I have the tendency to attract all lost souls, both animal and human) so they have had to struggle with the concept of no television Friday evening, no shopping, and my not being there half of Saturday while I am attending services.

It is also hard for me not to keep 'busy' like I said before. I always manage to sneak pulling a weed or two while walking through my gardens. (oops)

They're coming around, but my Sabbaths are far from being perfectly kept, as of yet. But, as is practically my motto: 'I am a work in progress'. I am walking toward perfection.

Paper plates work great, and purchased in bulk, make an economical alternative to a sink and counter full of dishes. I have no dishwasher, so being able to discard most of the dishes appeals to me.

I long for the day when it will be easy to keep a perfect Sabbath, but it is an uphill struggle for now. Our Elohim appreciates the effort we make if we do it with a pure heart and honest attempt to improve.

We are bucking 2,000 years of tradition and habit, after all.

Adelore,
QUOTE:
at least with tons of prayer from everyone here on this forum and myself, Yahweh has softened my husbands heart to where he no longer gives me any problems with/or about it.

Praise Yahweh! I didn't know things were getting better and easier for you, how wonderful!

Shalom Ladies,

I have a couple of questions.

1. What does someone do when they are the only one in their family that studies the word of Yahweh? (I have no other fellowship near where I live. Which makes fellowship with anyone pretty much out of the question. The closest thing we have to us is a Seventh Day Advent Church. All other Churchs are on Sunday around here.)

2. So does this mean I should stay home forever, not fellowshiping at all with anyone? What does someone like me do?

3. I've read on different sites where many gather together for "The Feast". They travel many hours and some even from different states. There's no way I can do this (although I wish there were.) My husband and I are over the road Truck Drivers and I'm lucky to even make it home at the start of the Sabbath.

If you have any ideas or thoughts, please post them.

May Yahweh Bless you,

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Shalom achoti Adelore,
We understand the predicament of not having people to fellowship with. My husband is handicapped and there are no believers close to us. We have been fellowshipping on EliYah's chat room for about four years. We are under the screen names of Y_and_T (Yochanan) and Y_and_T_2 (Tahar). Yahweh has blessed our fellowship and we have met many people from other places through this chat room. We met Nancy b's husband, we met another brother from Texas, we met a couple that live about 1 3/4 hours from us, we met a family that used to live about 3 hours from us but have now moved to the south, and we recently met a couple that live about 50 minutes from us, although we do have some major doctrinal differences. If you have a computer, my suggestion would be to join the chat room on erev shabbat and shabbat. On shabbat, there is a live broadcast (audio) and at the end you are able to call in. It is not people physically in your home, but it is pretty close as there are several people that are in the same boat. Hope this helps you and I pray for Yahweh's blessings on you and your husband!! Shalom to your home.
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

I want to second the praises for the live broadcasts on Shabbat morning, it has been such a blessing. Without it, I know we never would have come as far as we have, nor would I probably be converted. My husband actually has the chatroom screen put up so all the kids can watch the chat during the audio, and we have the audio blaring :o) so we can hear it all over the house. We have no believers in our area either (though we're working on some!! LOL) but the online meetings have really filled a void. And for us, having "church" at home has simplified our lives like you wouldn't believe...we have 6 kids at home, and I used to be the only one that would take them to Church, talk about stressful!

I also wanted to clarify, that when people talk about going far and near for the feasts, they are not talking about the weekly shabbat meeting. THat WOULD be impossible for us too, and we are not truck drivers!

What they are mentioning is usually the big feasts, either Passover or the Feast of Tabernacles, in Sept/Oct of the year. This year, they are having the feast of Tabernacles at a big campground in Missouri so there will be plenty of room for everyone! Maybe choosing one big feast a year to get together with other believers would be possible. I know as soon as we found out about it we have begun a budget to try and put money away for the trip. And the cost to camp there is VERY minimal! Maybe with enough time to plan, it is something you could do Adelore! Would't it be wonderful to meet up with other believers to just sit and talk face to face with!!

Nancy B.

Wanted to add, we just got back (an hour ago or so) from visiting EliYah and his wife and children, and getting our whole family baptized! It was wonderful...very cold, but exhilerating! I've already been to bed, but I'm so full of blessings and happiness from the trip, I can't sleep!

They are such down to earth, humble, sweet people, we love them dearly! Being new believers, we went there trying to be on our best behavior, nervous that we would make a bad impression or something. But they put us at such ease, we soon felt very much at home. And Oh MY!! They are definately not revealing enough of their talents (especially musical) at the audio meetings...their guitar playing and singing lifted our spirits so much. We need some CD's of their praise music around this house!! One of our sons is dying to get his hands on my other son's guitar, so he can practice already. Our foster son (slightly autistic, developmentally delayed) kept saying after each song, 'One more time" or "Anoder one!"

I can't even sleep I'm so charged with the desire to learn more and praise Yahweh!

Nancy B.

Nancy,

What a wonderful time it sounds like you had. I praise Yahweh that you got to share the many blessings with them. How wonderful that your family was all baptized!

I would love to attend one of the Feast this year. Yet I highly doubt I can/could talk my husband into it right now. Since he's not a follower of Yahsuhua and Praise Yahweh, my hubbys heart has "softened" where my studies are concerned; but one day I know without a doubt that Yahweh will provide a way for me to attend.

Sometimes when my cousin stops by for coffee I'm sitting at the Computer and I have papers on the table,(I'm printing and folding some of the pamplets on this web site to place in Truck Stops ect.) My cousin will tease me and ask me if I'm going to turn the pole barn into a church. He's done this more than once, trying to make fun of me. Of course he does this in front of my hubby. The first time I really wondered if this wouldn't turn my hubby against my study again.

So my reply was, "Nope I don't plan on turning the pole barn into a church." Of course he made a few more downing (really not very nice at all) comments to me about Yahwehs Word, in front of my husband and I knew I had to say something to stop it as I wasn't about to let Satan try to take away my freedom of my study.

Then I said, "Well, I could be doing a whole lot worse things. I could be like T. (his soon to be x-wifes name) out bar hoping, sleeping around and wrecking my family by leaving my husband for another man. Maybe if she would have been studying Yahwehs Word this wouldn't be happening."

"Since I'm sitting here quietly and not out Bible Thumping or Preaching to anyone here and I'm not trying to change my husband or bothering anyone and my husband knows I'm doing this and he doesn't mind. I guess I'm better off being into this than those other things that T. is into."

My husband smiled at this and my cousin got quiet for a moment and then my cousin said, "You know, you're right."

Since then when my cousin stops by he's Very supportive about my study and never knocks what I'm doing. He's even read a few of the tracts that I've printed out. That happen to be laying on the table.

He now has a Jehovah Witness that drops by their Magz to him. Since he doesn't read them and knows I'm into studying the word of Yahweh he brings them to me, (He doesn't understand yet all that I'm studying, but his thought/intentions are good as he thinks I can use them) so I use them as a "topic starter" about Yahweh the Sabbath and so on. He's very receptive to it!

Just thought I'd share this.

May Yahweh Bless.

Adelore! Oh my! I am so happy for you! This is wonderful! You are doing an excellent thing for YHWH. I bet your husband may get involved when the time is right for YHWH to touch his heart! And wow.. you really handled yourself so well with your cousin! A lot of people wouldn't have had the courage. They just would have been embarrassed. I am so glad to have read this today! YHWH is really doing great things in your life!

I will pray for you and your family. And I hope that YHWH continues to bless your life! Reading this today sure blessed me!

In Messiah,
Missy

Shalom Missy,

I thank Yahweh everyday for touching my hubbys heart the way He has. It has made a world of difference for me.

I must also admit that one of the others postings to me in my other topic about prayer request, was something on the order of maybe Yahweh was having me go through all the tuff times with my husband in order for me to take a Good Look at myself. Of course the human side of me didn't like what they said at first, but then I really thought about it and AGREED that maybe Yahweh was using my husbands words/actions to make me take a good look at ME. I did some really good looking at myself and knew without a doubt I NEEDED to change things about myself too....and that if I changed things about myself that just maybe my husband would notice. With Yahwehs help I did a lot of changing, of course not all of it was easy, (not in the least at first...lol.) and sure enough hubby started to notice and RESPOND.

I Praise Yahweh for it ALL! I have no doubt that we'll still have moments as we are human. I do see such a change in my hubby and MYSELF!

I felt bad for saying what I did to my cousin, as I didn't really want to throw up his wife leaving him or anything as I know he's still going through heartach about it; Yet I had had enough of the many times of his making fun of me and here I was trying to be humble and just take it. (Trying to change myself) But then just that one day for some reason I seen it was Satan using my cousin to try and put doubt in my hubby about my study's and I just wasn't going to allow that to happen. (I had gained too much ground with my hubby of not having to hide or never mention anything about Yahweh in our home. Now don't get me wrong I wasn't trying to preach to my hubby or force him to change, I just wanted to be able to read the Word of Yahweh while they watched T.V. and I just wanted to be on the computer doing my studys without any hassle. I could see it all going down the tubes if I let my Cousin continue with the way things were going.)

I still feel bad for causing him pain; but yet somehow it seems to have opened his (my cousins and maybe my hubbys too) eyes that I'm not ashamed to stand up for Yahweh or rather the fact that I'm Proud (bad choice of words, but I don't know what other word to use) that I study and it DOES mean the world to me.

Thank you for the Prayers, I know Yahweh will guide us and things will happen in His time.

May Yahweh Bless.

Adelore,

I am gladdened to hear of the headway you are making in your situation, whenever we can see our Abba working in our lives it is an encouragement to those of us who have similar situations to endure.

Don't beat yourself up on causing 'pain' to your source of trouble, you weren't nasty or rude, you spoke the truth of the matter and it set things in order. YHWH tells us the truth and it hurts no less, but then healing and growth come after.

I pray your situation improves in leaps and bounds.

~czygyny

Hi Ladies. I've been enjoying Eliyah's site for almost a year, and am happy to have finally found the forum! I didn't even know it was here! Here's a little intro of me:
My name's Laura, I just moved to North Georgia, near the NC border (anyone around here). i'm a homeschooling mama (well, intending to be...) of three little ones. A boy age almost 7, a girl age 5 and a girl age 2 1/2. My husband of 7 1/2 years has, since I met him been a believer that we must keep Torah, mostly in terms of Sabbath, foods, and observing the biblical days instead of the Catholic/pagan days. I married him just as I began to explore Faith, went to church for the first time etc. , coming out of a vaguely new-agey background (born to Catholic-raised mother and actively unbelieving father). We have been growing together in observing the Appointed times, although the 'burden' of figuring it out does seem to fall on the Mama. It is a learning process, to sort out what's biblical and what's someone's tradition, and how to build family traditions (if that is a worthy goal) while maintaining Scriptural integrity. I've recently made my first tassels to wear, trying to figure it out, how to attach them etc. My hubby isn't wearing them, but I'm actually doing well not being pushy. My kids all want one to wear. Wearing them at my waist level feels a little masculine to me, but my skirts are long, and I sometimes wear shorts around the house. I'm feeling like this might be a time to transition to skirts all the time.. Your suggestions on how to wear them (esp how to attach them ) are appreciated. I've skimmed through some of the previous posts. We usually use paper plates for Sabbath. We don't even always light candles! I'm not even sure what the candle lighting signifies, in terms of how many candles etc. Would anyone like to share their candle-lighting philosophy? What you do that's meaningful. I would like to go somewhere where we could watch the sunset as a family. At this point it's usually a scramble to get the house even marginally restful in terms of clean/picked-up-ness. And dinner... sometimes a special meal, sometimes not. Scripturally, it's a day of rest and holiness. I can see in myself the tendency to feel like to make all the Appointed times and Sabbath special is all about food! I'm not even Jewish, where did I get this? Anyway, I remember reading a Scripture verse regarding observing one of the Appointed times, and He clearly said that we are to do no work EXCEPT that which was needed to feed people. Sometimes it seems that we put an undue burden on ourselves, feeling like we have to get so much done ahead of time, which isn't necessary.(Although, I admit it would be nice to have all food prepared for Sabbath meals.) I never feel like my house is really fit for a visit by a 'Queen', which is how some say to welcome in the Sabbath. It's important for me to sort out what's commanded and what's just somebody else's thing.
O.K. I guess you can tell I'm happy to have found y'all. Shalom, Laura

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"Bring my soul out of prison that I may praise thy Name. The righteous shall compass me about, for thou shalt deal bountifully with me."

Laura - when I get more time I'll write more, but I just wanted to suggest quickly what I do...I bought some women's cotton tanktops, of different colors, and carefully cut them up the side about 2 inches, then sewed an edge/hem where I had cut them.

Then, I attached a square of strong cotton material to the 4 corners, and sewed a button hole over each one. I can then loop the tassels through the holes and they stay very nicely. I wear another shirt over the undershirt of couse, in the summer just a loose button up shirt or pullover lightweight shirt, and I've been blessed not to be toooooo hot with 2 layers.

My only problem has been, dresses, because there really isn't a 4 corners there. If we were to put the tassels at the bottom of our dresses, they would drag the ground and that doesn't seem very reverent to me. I've seen some people attach them with safety pins, though, at their waist. I personally prefer skirts and blouses anyhow though, so it's not a problem.

Nancy B.

I recently added blue thread to the corner fringes of my prayer scarf, doing a bit of macrame knotting to make a 'tassel' look, and finishing the blue off to look like it has always been a part of the scarf. They are cute little tzitzits.

I haven't started wearing tzitzits all the time. I am not ready to wear two garments quite yet in our 100-110° summers quite yet, but I do as the Spirit prompts.

Shalom czygyny,

you wrote,



I was wondering what you meant by "wearing two garments"? The tzittzitot don't need to be on a separate article of clothing. I believe that is from the talmud. I wear mine on the belt loops of my pants or if there are no belt loops, then put the tassels on small safety pins and attatch!

angeL

I finally made a set of four, and am wearing them. Yay! I sewed loops to the inside seams of my two tiered skirts. The skirt that's really long, I sewed the loops to where the bottom two tiers meet, inside, where it won't tear the fabric, but they will peak out. If they're too hidden, I'll make longer ones. I haven't tackled my more delicate dresses and skirts yet, but I think I'll need to iron some small sturdy patches to the inside. I've never sewed much. I like the look and feel of the tassels at the bottom of my skirts, it feels more feminine to me.
Laura

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"Bring my soul out of prison that I may praise thy Name. The righteous shall compass me about, for thou shalt deal bountifully with me."

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Adelor

I tried to email you from your profile but it came back.

My Name is Theresa, I live just west of Lansing Michigan. I see from your post and profile you are somewhere near Grand Rapids Michigan. My family and I attend the Assembly of Yahweh in Eaton Rapids MI just south of Lansing. You stated you would like to have fellowship and attend feast. The Assembly host the feasts. They do not charge any money and food is provided. They will also be hosting this years unity conference. The first weekend inc Fri. in Aug. people from the US & other counties who uphold the name of Yahweh/Yahshua will be in attendance. We would enjoy meeting you and your family for Sabbath or Feast fellowship. The Assemby web site is www.assemblyofyahweh.com The address is there you can use Map Quest for directions.

BTW Anyone else reading this post is welcome to attend Sabbath, Feasts, and the Conference with us.

Shalom Ladies,

It's so nice to have this ladies group here. (nothing against the men by no means, it's just nice to be able to talk "girl" talk and share our understanding of Yahweh's word.)

I haven't studied about the TizTiz? or tassles yet. Reading about them on here is all new to me. I'll have to look for information on them on Eliyah's web page, as I really have no idea what they are all about.


Harvester

Thank you for posting about the Feast. I've been on the website before, but not for awhile. I live about 2 hrs north/west of Grand Rapids. I didn't know they held the Feast there too. I'll have to check into that also. It would be GREAT to meet with others who share the same beliefs I do, not to mention I'd love to learn more from others.

My e-mail is adelore@praiseyahweh.com I just got it a week or so ago.


Please keep me in your prayers ladies as I really want to be able to find a way to NOT have to work the Sabbath. Since the Sabbath really doesn't mean anything to my hubby and he's not been convinceted of Yahweh's Spirit yet, but I do know it's a work in progress, as I can see some change in my hubby. Please keep us in your prayers!

I'm really trying to find a way to adjust our Trucking around the Sabbath. Of course since he's the head of the household and I need to be respectful of him; I do get to put some input in to it; yet I know I can't be "Pushy" about it.

I do know for a fact that the many Prayers DO WORK! Praise Yahweh! As my hubbys heart has softened so very much already. I know in Yahwehs Time, (even though I must admit I wish Yahweh would hurry it along faster, my human side of course...lol) but Yahweh knows best on the pace it should happen. Yahweh knows my heart and He knows I'm a women who loves Him (Yahweh) dearly and I only want to Praise Him and worship Him the proper way.

I also know that Yahweh is using me (not in a bad way at all) to pass out pamplets (along with the Gospel of John) with the Truth on them across the country. I have enjoyed doing this very much and without a doubt if We weren't into Trucking across the country I couldn't possibly reach as many people as I am for Yahweh. Most of these people I'll never meet, which is ok with me.

I just pray that the information that I'm placing at the Truck Stops, Rest Areas, even in the toliet paper holder, (why Yahweh had me place it there is beyond me, but the feeling kept nagging at me, so I gave in and figured Yahweh wanted me to place it there for someone) and any other place I can find will be to help lead others to the Truth of Yahweh, the Sabbaths and the many other things I could list that I'm still learning about. But you all know what I mean.

Please pray with me that the pamplets, (printed off of Eliyah's website) will be a blessing to the many who find them. I pray that Yahweh will use this to lead many others to Him and His Beloved Son, Yahusha.

May Yahweh Bless,

Annette

Shalom ladies, especially Nancy and Laura,
I just wanted to quickly comment on the issue of tzit-tzits and dresses. I sew a lot and I am trying to start a business. One of the things I do is make tzit-tzits. I also sew head coverings, modest clothing, and that includes dresses. I was approved to wear jumpers at work, but even when I found out that I could do that, I struggled with how to wear the tzit-tzits. I have recently found a couple of very easy vest patterns that I can adapt to my dress patterns. I can attach them to the shoulders or wear them as a seperate. The nice thing about the vests is that you can always make them of thin cotton and you can make them to match the dress. You can also alter the side bottom hem to include corners without much trouble and usually the patterns only call for 1 - 2 yards of fabric. I have been fortunate enough to find Muslin (100% cotton material) for about $1.50 a yard and often Walmart has 100% cotton fabric for $1 a yard. You also have the option of dying the cotton to match dresses. This has been a real blessing for me and something fun to do. Hope this idea helps and blesses all. Take care and Yahweh bless you all in your endeavors to be faithful women of Yahweh.
In His love and shalom,
Tahar

Shalom ladies!

I just love making tzits,tzits...I just had an opportunity to make tzits tzits for a minster and I'm sending them out today! Its always tov to be a blessing to others and what joy it gives. Its exciting that we are all into the sewing thing exchanging ideas, what a blessing. I just recently started making my own skirts now and found a way also to loop the tzits tzits by making four belt loops on the four corners of the waist...so handy and better then using safety pins. Hope this helps someone.

Yah-shua bless you all!
shalom
hanna

Hanna, that's a good idea, the loops on the skirt. I went through my old patterns and found some skirt patterns, I'm going to try and sew some for myself and my daughters.

Just out of curiosity - in the Torah, it says you should not wear clothes of mixed fiber, wool and linen. My husband and I have been studying it, and in some versions of scripture it says, (not quoting exactly) 'you are not to wear clothes of mixed fiber, wool and linen' which sounds like you only need to worry about wool and linen mixed.

Yet other versions say 'you are not to wear clothes with mixed linen, for example...wool and linen.'...which sounds more like ANYTHING with mixed fiber we should avoid. Any thoughts on this??? I have a lot of cotton material, but it's quilting stuff and very hard to iron. I haven't bought more material, because we are trying to resolve this.

Thank you anyone who can shed some light on the subject.. maybe I should post it in the scripture study section...

Nancy

shalom NancyB

I know exactly what your saying about the mix material my husband and I have searched and asked many questions about this matter of material mixing. We've heard all kinds of thoughts on this issue and justitcations, but we have come to an understanding and conviction that we are not to mix any type of material that is not of pure kosher 100% whether it be cotton or linen or any other material together. According to this scripture it makes sense and is clear to me.

Lev 19:19 ‘Guard My laws. Do not let your livestock mate with another kind. Do not sow your field with mixed seed. And do not put a garment woven of two sorts of thread upon you.

If YHWH did not want livestock to mate with any other kind but themselves...and YHWH commanded not to sow mixture of any other seeds together in the field then I have to believe that YHWH also did not want us to wear any mixture of threads that where not of its kind also. This is the conviction that Yah has given me and my husband.

I went wal-mart and bought this blouse it was mixed cotton and spandex-which is a form of man made rubber plastic and as the days were passing by, I just didn't feel right, Nancy...when I read your post about the mix material Yah just convicted my strongly to take back this blouse and keep what he has shown me.

I know we all have to come to our own understanding in this, but this is what Yah has given to me. Hope it helps somewhat.

I personally am trying to clean out my wardrobe, I do have some 100% polyester man maid material...I'm praying about this. I mostly wear cottons and linens some 100%
polyesters. The body breaths with the cottons and linens.

Hugs and shalom
hanna

Hannah, I know that I love cotton, and would wear only it if I was able. Health-wise, I would say wearing only natural fibers would be best. I have absolutely nothing to back myself up on that, but it just seems natural that if we should eat whole foods, and things with the least amount of chemicals and man-made ingredients, wouldn't it make sense to cover your body in as natural a fabric as possible?

That said, I have a lot of mixed stuff, which I really want to wee